I was wondering if there is a way to unlock the BL without sony ''knowing''. I mean you can restore the TA partition but the IMEI will be registered as unlocked and the warranty will be void.
jls95 said:
I was wondering if there is a way to unlock the BL without sony ''knowing''. I mean you can restore the TA partition but the IMEI will be registered as unlocked and the warranty will be void.
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as i know after we relock the bootloader & restore TA,warranty will still be there.
I dont know. To my mind sony would check the IMEI in order to validate the warranty.
If you unlock your bootloader using Flashtool, Sony will not know about it. And you can always restore your TA Partition to reclaim your warranty.
great! thanks for your replies..!!
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I dont know. To my mind sony would check the IMEI in order to validate the warranty.
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Sony only checks the device, not their 'unlocked bootloader database'. If you're lucky, they don't even check the device.
abhi007.john said:
If you unlock your bootloader using Flashtool, Sony will not know about it. And you can always restore your TA Partition to reclaim your warranty.
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Unlocking via Flashtool requires your unlock code by Sony
Joery360 said:
Sony only checks the device, not their 'unlocked bootloader database'. If you're lucky, they don't even check the device.
Unlocking via Flashtool requires your unlock code by Sony
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Hope you are right about your first point.
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Hope you are right about your first point.
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And what if they use their database? You have requested a key, it doesn't say you've used it.
They cannot refuse to repair your phone if your bootloader is locked but their system says you've requested a key.
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Hello guys,
I have read thru somethreads outside of our phone's forum, and found some people restoring TA's from phones that allow bootloader unlocking, and was thinking if it's safe to do the same with our XL.
I understand there are certain modifications that have to be done.
Thanks in Advanced!
P.S. Searched the forums of the XL, but I didn't find anything with this matter, sorry if it has bean brought up.
If you forgot to backup your TA like me see this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2604484&goto=newpost
As stated above, yes it's possible.
But you don't get your DRM keys back, thus your warranty is still voided.
Re-expressing my question
Joery360 said:
As stated above, yes it's possible.
But you don't get your DRM keys back, thus your warranty is still voided.
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I must have expressed myself wrong.
I have my TA backup, but i have not unlocked my bootloader, because my unlocking status is NOT ALLOWED, yet my question is, if I can use a TA backup from another phone that has a bootloader unlock allowed: YES, so I can transfer this status to my device, therefor allowing me to unlock my bootloader.
Regards.
rguilamo said:
I must have expressed myself wrong.
I have my TA backup, but i have not unlocked my bootloader, because my unlocking status is NOT ALLOWED, yet my question is, if I can use a TA backup from another phone that has a bootloader unlock allowed: YES, so I can transfer this status to my device, therefor allowing me to unlock my bootloader.
Regards.
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As far as I know its not possible to unlock your bootloader if unlocking is not allowed.
But you might want to take a look here. It's CWM for locked bootloaders.
If you really want to unlock you should consider selling your phone and buying a Xperia L where's unlocking allowed (mostly sim lock free phones)
There might be a risk of hard bricking of your phone if you restore someone else's TA backup
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rguilamo said:
I must have expressed myself wrong.
I have my TA backup, but i have not unlocked my bootloader, because my unlocking status is NOT ALLOWED, yet my question is, if I can use a TA backup from another phone that has a bootloader unlock allowed: YES, so I can transfer this status to my device, therefor allowing me to unlock my bootloader.
Regards.
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did u attempt? what was the result?
pls kindly let us know. if u conform....imtoo thinking for it.
Don't try messing with TA backup or you will end up bricking the device and i am talking about hardbrick. If you restore someone else TA backup your mobile won't boot up and you won't be able to flash FTF again.
If I unlock the bootloader , will the mobile voids Sony warranty ?? If yes, can I lock it back ?? An in what way ?? Thanks.
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georgebest said:
If I unlock the bootloader , will the mobile voids Sony warranty ?? If yes, can I lock it back ?? An in what way ?? Thanks.
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once you unlock the bootloader you cannot clear its path by relocking to get back warranty.
It means once u unlock bootload the warranty will void for ever
Everything you need to know about bootloader unlocking of Xperia
http://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/unlock-yourboot-loader/
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Geeks Empire said:
once you unlock the bootloader you cannot clear its path by relocking to get back warranty.
It means once u unlock bootload the warranty will void for ever
Everything you need to know about bootloader unlocking of Xperia
http://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/unlock-yourboot-loader/
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True as stated above, except for one exception if you hard brick your phone, there is no way for them to determine that your phone had the boot loader unlocked. Just requesting the unlock code is not evidence enough that it was unlocked, just that you requested the code. I had done that in the past requested a code and not ever used it because root became available and I found out about loosing DRM keys etc.
Just got the D6633 dual Sim for my wife. I use Nexus devices exclusively but since Sony offers bootloader unlocking I decided to get this phone instead of a Nexus for her.
My question is, should I go through the steps to actually get the bootloader unlock code for future use. I don't plan on unlocking the bootloader just yet but I worry that in the future the service might be discontinued and I'll never get a code from Sony.
It's still under warranty and I'd like to keep it that way so I guess the real question is, is getting the code what voids the warranty or actually preforming the unlock that does it? Is there a counter or some type of a flag in the device that is set permanently or can the bootloader be locked back again like any Nexus device?
Thanks for your help.
No, it's not like KNOX [SAMSUNG] or S-ON [HTC]
Keep the code if you want.
That is one of the reasons I prefer SONY devices, besides the specs and build quality. No stuff like tripping KNOX fuse or getting S-OFF to make an HTC a Google Play Edition for example.
Keep the code, just in case.
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No, it's not like KNOX [SAMSUNG] or S-ON [HTC]
Keep the code if you want.
That is one of the reasons I prefer SONY devices, besides the specs and build quality. No stuff like tripping KNOX fuse or getting S-OFF to make an HTC a Google Play Edition for example.
Keep the code, just in case.
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OK, but if there is no tripped flag, how do they know I didn't use the code? I guess you didn't understand my initial question. I can understands the code doesn't expire, but doesn't the act of getting the code voids warranty?
obsanity said:
OK, but if there is no tripped flag, how do they know I didn't use the code? I guess you didn't understand my initial question. I can understands the code doesn't expire, but doesn't the act of getting the code voids warranty?
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You trigger something on their servers, it's all about the IMEI and Serial Number.
Even if you relock the bootloader, they will still know it was unlocked, I for example relocked the bootloader the official way, via SONY website, and got the code in my email.
Not quite. Warrenty is coded when you unlock the boot, nor when you ask for the code.
You can get the code and keep it forever.
Officially there is no way to re lock the bootloader anyway.
However, if you root first, backup the TA patition them unlock the boot, you can restore the TA partition to re lock and don't will not know.
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Not quite. Warrenty is coded when you unlock the boot, nor when you ask for the code.
You can get the code and keep it forever.
Officially there is no way to re lock the bootloader anyway.
However, if you root first, backup the TA patition them unlock the boot, you can restore the TA partition to re lock and don't will not know.
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True, it is a good idea to backup the TA partion, I myself didn't do it, but it is a good advice.
OK, so I'm gathering that there is a way to root and install recovery without unlocking the bootloader. If that's the case, why would anyone need to open the bootloader?
Also, I'm still not clear on my initial question. Do I loose warranty as soon as I get the unlock code from Sony or does the act of unlocking what voids it.
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OK, so I'm gathering that there is a way to root and install recovery without unlocking the bootloader. If that's the case, why would anyone need to open the bootloader?
Also, I'm still not clear on my initial question. Do I loose warranty as soon as I get the unlock code from Sony or does the act of unlocking what voids it.
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Only when you unlock you lose warranty. But you can backup the TA partition, and relock later, if you want.
With an unlock bootloader you can root Lollipop easy, with a lock bootloader, there are a few steps, like downgrading, for example.
And many more stuff you can do, with an unlocked bootloader, flash custom ROM's...mods, tweaks, etc.
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Only when you unlock you lose warranty. But you can backup the TA partition, and relock later, if you want.
With an unlock bootloader you can root Lollipop easy, with a lock bootloader, there are a few steps, like downgrading, for example.
And many more stuff you can do, with an unlocked bootloader, flash custom ROM's...mods, tweaks, etc.
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So if you can lock it back and need to claim warranty they won't know you ever had it unlocked? Something seems not right.
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So if you can lock it back and need to claim warranty they won't know you ever had it unlocked? Something seems not right.
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If you restore your TA partition, yeah, you can claim warranty.
Hi all.
I've got my XZ since one week now, and I'm missing the possibilities of rooting my device.
My Z2 was LB, so I never could ever try to unlock my bootloader. therefore, I don't know anything about it.
I've read a lot of thread here and there, and some points are not that clear to me.
Will the procedure of unlocking the bootloader erase everything in the phone (like photos, contacts, etc...)?
Unlocking the bootloader will kill the DRM keys forever, if I understood well. but flashing Androplus Kernel will recover them, right?
Is it possible to relock the booltloader after? if yes, will the DRM keys be restored?
Last thing, to be sure of what I should do.
1-unlock the bootloader with IMEI via sony site.
2-install TWRP via adb command
3-flash Androplus kernel.
Am I right, or do I miss something?
Thanks for your help, and sorry for the noobish questions.
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Hi all.
I've got my XZ since one week now, and I'm missing the possibilities of rooting my device.
My Z2 was LB, so I never could ever try to unlock my bootloader. therefore, I don't know anything about it.
I've read a lot of thread here and there, and some points are not that clear to me.
Will the procedure of unlocking the bootloader erase everything in the phone (like photos, contacts, etc...)?
Unlocking the bootloader will kill the DRM keys forever, if I understood well. but flashing Androplus Kernel will recover them, right?
Is it possible to relock the booltloader after? if yes, will the DRM keys be restored?
Last thing, to be sure of what I should do.
1-unlock the bootloader with IMEI via sony site.
2-install TWRP via adb command
3-flash Androplus kernel.
Am I right, or do I miss something?
Thanks for your help, and sorry for the noobish questions.
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Hey sensei_sai,
Im unsure if unlocking will erase your data but its always best to backup everything in the internal memory just in case something goes wrong.
Androplus will NOT recover your DRM keys but kernels with DRM fixes try to replicate the features that are permanently lost as a result of unlocking your boot-loader.
In the future it may be possible for you to re-lock the boot-loader but even then this wont restore DRM keys, the only way to restore DRM keys would be to back up your TA partition (This contains your DRM keys) before you unlock your boot-loader but to do this you need root access with your boot-loader still locked.
How to backup TA
Unfortunately at this time nobody has figured out a way to get root with a locked boot-loader although a newly found exploit (Dirty cow) may help us do this very soon so if you care about re-locking and keeping your DRM keys I advise waiting until a locked boot-loader root solution is around!
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Hey sensei_sai,
Im unsure if unlocking will erase your data but its always best to backup everything in the internal memory just in case something goes wrong.
Androplus will NOT recover your DRM keys but kernels with DRM fixes try to replicate the features that are permanently lost as a result of unlocking your boot-loader.
In the future it may be possible for you to re-lock the boot-loader but even then this wont restore DRM keys, the only way to restore DRM keys would be to back up your TA partition (This contains your DRM keys) before you unlock your boot-loader but to do this you need root access with your boot-loader still locked.
How to backup TA
Unfortunately at this time nobody has figured out a way to get root with a locked boot-loader although a newly found exploit (Dirty cow) may help us do this very soon so if you care about re-locking and keeping your DRM keys I advise waiting until a locked boot-loader root solution is around!
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Thanks for your reply.
Too bad for the TA partition.
So we have two possibilities. Take the risk of loose some features forever, but benefit of the root or wait till someone make some magic to use an exploit to obtain root without unlocking the bootloader.
Risk and go... Or wait and safe... Dilemma...
Sent from my Xperia XZ
I think that the era of DRM lock is over, we've been using DRM fixes for all the latest xperia phones, the dirty cow is a bad exploit and it's more dangerous than useful.
I was unsure about unlocking the bootloader but now that I did it, I rooted and I regret nothing, the only downside of unlocking is the warranty loss, but who cares as long as the phone doesn't magically explode.
Venom71 said:
I think that the era of DRM lock is over, we've been using DRM fixes for all the latest xperia phones, the dirty cow is a bad exploit and it's more dangerous than useful.
I was unsure about unlocking the bootloader but now that I did it, I rooted and I regret nothing, the only downside of unlocking is the warranty loss, but who cares as long as the phone doesn't magically explode.
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Good point for you... I think i will take the risk.
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I'm about to....
sensei_sai said:
Good point for you... I think i will take the risk.
Sent from my Xperia XZ
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OK, so did the bootloader unlock erase your data? Did you use the sony way or Flashtool?
I wrote a complete guide just here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/how-to/how-to-unlock-bl-kernel-twrp-root-t3541648
Please use the search
nathan30 said:
I wrote a complete guide just here : https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz/how-to/how-to-unlock-bl-kernel-twrp-root-t3541648
Please use the search
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Thank you, I've seen that guide, seems like it's not possible to unlock bootloader without factory reset.
tempurastyle said:
Thank you, I've seen that guide, seems like it's not possible to unlock bootloader without factory reset.
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Yes, it's not possible
tempurastyle said:
Thank you, I've seen that guide, seems like it's not possible to unlock bootloader without factory reset.
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Yes, but it worth it!! Save all your datas and go for it!
Any one know how to relock the bootloader for a xperia xpz?
If you unlocked because you wanted root or custom firmware and lost the sony features for camera and want to revert back. You cannot do so until there is an drm fix or if you had your ta backed up. relocking will do nothing.
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If you unlocked because you wanted root or custom firmware and lost the sony features for camera and want to revert back. You cannot do so until there is an drm fix or if you had your ta backed up. relocking will do nothing.
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I know but maybe i can go through the warranty
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I know but maybe i can go through the warranty
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What warranty? As soon as u unlocked the bootloader the warranty is no longer valid as per the terms and conditions u read when u done it
But when you do backup of DRM keys first of course if it possible. And restore them before give Phone on warranty. And relock bootloader warrianty will be works. But if you lose DRM key without backup. The bootloader not be relock.
CKkio23 said:
If you unlocked because you wanted root or custom firmware and lost the sony features for camera and want to revert back. You cannot do so until there is an drm fix or if you had your ta backed up. relocking will do nothing.
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So, is it possible at this moment to backup the DRM keys?
Legdotus said:
So, is it possible at this moment to backup the DRM keys?
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No
Oh well, let's hope they find a god damn way to do it. Using an unrooted phone is so uncool.
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No
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Actually, idk if this will work bc it doesnt use 'real' drm keys, but theres always this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672 - yall know if it will work? (pls dont be rude or anything just trying to help)
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Actually, idk if this will work bc it doesnt use 'real' drm keys, but theres always this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672 - yall know if it will work? (pls dont be rude or anything just trying to help)
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There's a hack/mod here that offers a DRM fix, but no DRM restoration. https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz...hack-mod-sony-xperia-xz-premium-twrp-t3695171
Basically we can root now. I think you can just relock the bootloader (to remove the unlocked message on boot thing) if you're going to send your device in for repairs.
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iArvee said:
I think you can just relock the bootloader (to remove the unlocked message on boot thing) if you're going to send your device in for repairs.
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No, that required the keys which are lost forever.
FartyParty said:
No, that required the keys which are lost forever.
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Ah, I stand corrected then. What happens if you DO try to relock the bootloader? It will simply fail? Or brick the phone?
iArvee said:
Ah, I stand corrected then. What happens if you DO try to relock the bootloader? It will simply fail? Or brick the phone?
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Nothing.