Related
Can anyone confirm if DynamicNotifications (ActiveNotifications from MotoX) work on the Nexus 5?
not possible because moto x uses Amoled Screen. Battery will drain so fast on a LCD screen
Are you talking about the actual app on the play store or the exact same thing from the moto x?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
It will work but it is not recommended AT ALL.
As supersain80 said, the Nexus 5 features an LED IPS screen and not OLED. Because of that the entire screen lights up instead of just pixels that are colored so instead of only lighting up those white pixels as on the Moto X, the entire screen, even blacks lightup, so it would destroy your battery.
I'll admit i miss OLED, last phone i had with it was the galaxy nexus, but the LED IPS displays are a lot nicer in other ways you just don't get things like this.
beaver2233 said:
Are you talking about the actual app on the play store or the exact same thing from the moto x?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The app from the play store.
supersain08 said:
not possible because moto x uses Amoled Screen. Battery will drain so fast on a LCD screen
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
neok44 said:
It will work but it is not recommended AT ALL.
As supersain80 said, the Nexus 5 features an LED IPS screen and not OLED. Because of that the entire screen lights up instead of just pixels that are colored so instead of only lighting up those white pixels as on the Moto X, the entire screen, even blacks lightup, so it would destroy your battery.
I'll admit i miss OLED, last phone i had with it was the galaxy nexus, but the LED IPS displays are a lot nicer in other ways you just don't get things like this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the response. That is one of the features from the MotoX I will dreadfully miss.
I am missing the feature a lot too. Are there any settings in the dynamtic notifications app that make it more suitable for the nexus 5?
Well you could reduce the screen on time on new notifications and reduce the brightness of the display for this particular app. I only reduced the screen on time.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app
I'm using the play store app and I don't notice excessive battery drain. There will of course be some, but it works fine.
Is it just me or the screen is grainy when in low light and in darker images?
same here, very disappointed in this camera
Yes , it's like a very thin layer of dust or paper is on the screen .
Raay said:
Yes , it's like a very thin layer of dust or paper is on the screen .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think this is common with OLED, I've only seen a handful of them though...check out another OLED device or TV in store & check for it.
Ace42 said:
I think this is common with OLED, I've only seen a handful of them though...check out another OLED device or TV in store & check for it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is it a common problem or common in all oled? If it's a problem I'm going to return the phone. It's noticeable when you watch videos without light and lowest brightness.
Its common with this phone, not with oled in general.
If its just grainy then you are in luck, mine has clear vertical and horizontal lines.
I believe its called mura with oled technology.
My galaxy nexus a few years back had it way worse and i traded that in after 2 days at the store for a galaxy s3.
My galaxy s3 had perfect screen (to this day it is still perfect except for the cracks in the screen)
Trying to sell my g flex 2 as i have a taiwanese imported phone (h959 red 32gb) in europe and LG webcare refuses to help me with it (and sending it back to vendor will cost me tons of transport and import again ...).
Also LG webcare stated it was normal and even a screen replacement wouldn't fix much. So i was kind of bitter and told them they where 4 years behind on samsung in oled technology if this is normal.
Anyway, good luck with it.
WittePens said:
Its common with this phone, not with oled in general.
If its just grainy then you are in luck, mine has clear vertical and horizontal lines.
I believe its called mura with oled technology.
My galaxy nexus a few years back had it way worse and i traded that in after 2 days at the store for a galaxy s3.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not noticing any major grainy areas, at least it's less noticeable than on my Galaxy S1 & Vita. I unfortunately got one with yellowing along the bottom edge, but I can only see it on light colors.
Also the Mura effect consists of black blotches on black areas, those lines you have are something else.
Sent from my LG-H950
Mura is cloudy effects on the screen, eg yellow spots.
Banding is lines.
I got both and LG refuses to fix it.
POLED
WittePens said:
Its common with this phone, not with oled in general.
If its just grainy then you are in luck, mine has clear vertical and horizontal lines.
I believe its called mura with oled technology.
My galaxy nexus a few years back had it way worse and i traded that in after 2 days at the store for a galaxy s3.
My galaxy s3 had perfect screen (to this day it is still perfect except for the cracks in the screen)
Trying to sell my g flex 2 as i have a taiwanese imported phone (h959 red 32gb) in europe and LG webcare refuses to help me with it (and sending it back to vendor will cost me tons of transport and import again ...).
Also LG webcare stated it was normal and even a screen replacement wouldn't fix much. So i was kind of bitter and told them they where 4 years behind on samsung in oled technology if this is normal.
Anyway, good luck with it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, true, it is common with this phone and not with OLED technology in general. Now, what else you need to note is that this phone uses POLED type of display. POLED differs with regular AMOLED and OLED display technology in the plastic substrate that employs as opposed to the glass substrate in regular AMOLED/OLED displays, hence the letter "P" in POLED. Plastic is used to make the display bendable and this POLED technology by LG is not perfected yet. I do not know if Samsung uses POLED for S6 Edge, S6 Edge Plus and Note Edge, if they indeed use plastic substrate in their curved displays, then your claim that LG is behind in this tech. is true. I think i've read somewhere that Samsung uses normal display tech in their curved mobile displays, but i cannot remember what website hosted this article.
I own LG 55EC9300 OLED TV and i can tell you that LG's regular OLED tech. is as good as Samsung's. This is not straightforward correlation with mobile display tech. since i do not know of any OLED based phone of LG. My opinion is that LG's normal OLED tech. is just fine, just that they need to polish this POLED tech.
Mine's screen is ok on minimal brightness, however it is too bright on minimal and use Twilight. And than the screen is really grainy. But there is no way around it, 0% brightness is too much at night. I hate that. And there is too much white GUI. We need more BLACKS.
itflexes said:
Is it just me or the screen is grainy when in low light and in darker images?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Coming from G2 to G Flex 2 I really noticed non-uniform solid colors on G Flex 2 and I found two solutions: raise average brightness (grain is much more noticeable on lower brightness setting) and get used to it. Really, second option helped me a lot, my eyes got used to this screen within a week and now I don't notice it and happy with overall screen quality. I understand that second solution is not for everyone.
wishod said:
Coming from G2 to G Flex 2 I really noticed non-uniform solid colors on G Flex 2 and I found two solutions: raise average brightness (grain is much more noticeable on lower brightness setting) and get used to it. Really, second option helped me a lot, my eyes got used to this screen within a week and now I don't notice it and happy with overall screen quality. I understand that second solution is not for everyone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah same here, i hardly notice it anymore. also coming from a nexus 5, the flex 2 screen is way way superior
le grande magnetto said:
Mine's screen is ok on minimal brightness, however it is too bright on minimal and use Twilight. And than the screen is really grainy. But there is no way around it, 0% brightness is too much at night. I hate that. And there is too much white GUI. We need more BLACKS.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i agree. i use the app darker now. in lowest setting it's usable. but more black in GUI would bee better
Ok, for us how are new to the moto phones, can you please explain the difference between these two options.
Which one do you prefer? Which one uses more battery?
Ambient Display uses more battery it doesn't use Motorola's separate low power CPU. Half-baked not as reliable as Moto Display.
Both accomplish the same task.
You have the option on the 2015 X. I wish the ir sensor worked with ambient display
Sent from my XT1575 using Tapatalk
So there is no real advantage in ambient over moto display? Better go with moto?
I actually prefer the look of Ambient Display, but wish it worked as well as Moto Display. I've got Ambient enabled on my GPE HTC M8 (via DigitalHigh LolliGPE ROM), but it's not as responsive as the Nexus 6 Ambient Display, and nowhere near the finely tuned beast that is Moto Display. But, it looks really cool.
In short, the Ambient Display is Lollipop's default lockscreen shown in black and white. It's interactive, meaning you can tap on the black and white notification, and the screen will fully turn on in color, and you can do whatever you normally do with the notifications.
Moto Display is a similar, but separate lock-screen, where notifications show up on a black and white, low-power screen that shows up to three (I think) of your most recent notifications. You can tap on the circle, and drag for actions, such as dismiss, open, unlock, etc. There is still the stock Lollipop lock-screen if you just press the power button instead of picking up or waving over the phone, so it is completely separate from the default lockscreen.
---------- Post added at 04:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:04 PM ----------
Fantach said:
So there is no real advantage in ambient over moto display? Better go with moto?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So, yes, go with the Moto Display if you value battery life more than aesthetics, because the Moto Display uses the low-power, dedicated CPU core to run the sensors that turn on Moto Display, which Ambient Display doesn't. Ambient uses the phones internal sensors to determine whether you're picking up the phone or not, which uses more power than the proprietary chip/core.
----------------------------------
As an aside, there is one more dedicated CPU core that does natural language processing, which is what allows you to always talk to the phone and have it respond to a certain keyphrase. Another really cool addition that makes the Moto X line a notch above the other flagships, IMO
what about
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.activenotifications&hl=en
jonathanbailie said:
I actually prefer the look of Ambient Display...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks a lot for such a detailed explanation. I appreciate it
StreetkillnHD said:
what about
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.activenotifications&hl=en
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've used that on my M8 and Nexus 5 before and it works really well. It essentially mimics Moto Display, but since those phones don't have the hardware to match the DynamicNotifications like the Moto X does, it does create more battery drain. That app does work as advertised though; it's good, especially if you've got an AMOLED device.
Fantach said:
Thanks a lot for such a detailed explanation. I appreciate it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah man, that's what we're here for :good:
jonathanbailie said:
I've used that on my M8 and Nexus 5 before and it works really well. It essentially mimics Moto Display, but since those phones don't have the hardware to match the DynamicNotifications like the Moto X does, it does create more battery drain. That app does work as advertised though; it's good, especially if you've got an AMOLED device.
Yeah man, that's what we're here for :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Also it doesn't respect the smart locks you set. If you're connected to a device that's supposed to keep your device unlocked the dynamic notifications will relock the device. Happens with acdisplay as well.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
Coming from a Nexus 6, I may end up getting the Pure. I'm a little worried that Motorola is losing its luster under Lenovo so I'm concerned for updates & support, but using the Nexus 6 for almost a year, I feel like Google's additions of Motorola's features weren't all there yet and Moto Display is one of the ones I was missing.
It felt more limited on my 2013 Moto x vs the Nexus 6 since the Nexus 6 is basically a black and white version of your lock screen so you see all the notifications when it 'breathes' vs the 2013 Moto X's one at a time (it improved a lot on the 2014 one if I'm not mistaken), but the thing I don't like about it on my Nexus 6 is that simply touching the screen anywhere fires up the whole screen which likely needlessly wastes battery. I'm constantly activating the whole screen on my Nexus 6 and it's very annoying, especially when all I'm trying to do is put the phone in my pocket, but my hand brushes against the screen. To me, the 2013 Moto x, it was a deliberate action when I wanted to preview a notification or swipe up/down to fire up the display.
Though with a non-amoled screen, it probably doesn't matter any more, power wise.
Is the colored Moto Display new to the 2015 Moto XPE, or was that on the older 2014 Moto X as well? I've never seen it before, so I'm thinking it has to be because of the LCD instead of AMOLED.
If you don't know what I mean, the new Moto X Pure/Style can show colors (instead of just black and white notifications) in its Moto Display feature.
jonathanbailie said:
Is the colored Moto Display new to the 2015 Moto XPE, or was that on the older 2014 Moto X as well? I've never seen it before, so I'm thinking it has to be because of the LCD instead of AMOLED.
If you don't know what I mean, the new Moto X Pure/Style can show colors (instead of just black and white notifications) in its Moto Display feature.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I believe that's the blue screen when you activate the phone with moto voice.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
biggiestuff said:
I believe that's the blue screen when you activate the phone with moto voice.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, that's not what I mean. I haven't actually seen it since the first time I used Moto Display, but it had a little blue part below the ring that said "touch to start" or something. Since then, I haven't seen anything bit black and white on Moto Display.
Isnt the Moto Pure screen LDC this time? Means the Moto Display will use more power than AMOLED?
varun.gid said:
Isnt the Moto Pure screen LDC this time? Means the Moto Display will use more power than AMOLED?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah it would do kost likley. But the less power used during web browsing on the LCD is probably a greater saving in power overall compared to the AMOLED.
Sent from S3 via Tapatalk App.
Tested ambient display on mxpe for about 2 weeks. I changed back to moto display and am happy about it.
For like media player, moto display you need to push on the lock icon and slide it to the task you want. Making accidentally unlocking in pocket harder.
Ambient display kept unlocking in my pocket.
I think Moto display is way better but it's a shame that it isn't in any custom ROM only in stock
bublz654 said:
I think Moto display is way better but it's a shame that it isn't in any custom ROM only in stock
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey. You can flash moto display. With any compatible ROM like trupurexmm. Flash with twrp. I don't know about other recovery's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...ast-smooth-t3237155/post63574299#post63574299
Sent from XT1575,Stock 6.0 MM Systemless Root
Hitti2 said:
Hey. You can flash moto display. With any compatible ROM like trupurexmm. Flash with twrp. I don't know about other recovery's.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/development/rom-trupurex-fast-smooth-t3237155/post63574299#post63574299
Sent from XT1575,Stock 6.0 MM Systemless Root
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Would I be able to flash it on a CM13 based ROM though ?
bublz654 said:
Would I be able to flash it on a CM13 based ROM though ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That I do not know.
Sent from XT1575, Stock 6.0 MM, Systemless root
LG is falling behind in the smartphone display world. My Note7 is the best phone display I have ever had, by far, and that is no exaggeration. Yet here we are with another flagship release by LG who are using dated technology on the most important component of a phone - the display. IPS contrast sucks. Contrast is a huge deciding factor in image quality - perhaps the most important. Additionally, LCDs and IPS in particular have substantial pixel response motion blur over AMOLED. I HAD to return my HTC 10 because I couldn't stand using the display with how muddy it looked compared to the AMOLED on my 6P, even though HTC touted their display as having a fast response rate. Simple actions like pulling down the notification shade produced easily noticeable differences between the devices. LG is well aware of how great OLED is - they invest billions in their OLED TV division. I have spent $7,000 this year between their 65" and 55" OLED TVs, and they are mind-blowing. LG needs to either purchase Samsung display panels, or invest in their seriously lacking mobile division, because they're going to end up like HTC sooner or later at this rate.
I hope this IPS panel is at least an improvement. The contrast is likely no better than 2000:1, which is great for an IPS, but poor overall. I'm not stoked about the always-on-display in the ticker area either. It is far less useful than the G5's or Note7's - another step backwards. And at night, LCD always-on-displays also look like crap with tons of halo/light bleed. The lack of detailed performance specs at the launch event was disappointing. Using the SD 820 was a poor choice, and you could have easily thrown 6GB of RAM in there. And launching in a few weeks is idiotic as well. They could have capitalized on the Note7's recall and gotten their device out before the iPhone 7 if they wanted to. We'll be lucky to have it by October. There better be a decent promotion, because I am on the fence about buying this phone with its poor display, less than stellar battery (even if replaceable), lack of water resistance, and ugly UI. I must give credit where it is due, and that is the audio and camera capabilities are out of this world (except for the 5 MP front camera - WHY) - and I appreciate them destroying the competition in those VERY important areas., and keeping a removable battery with a premium and durable design. But this phone could have been the best of 2016 if they wanted it to be. This phone hardly has any advantage over the Axon 7 for far less cash.
In their defense, LG manufactures MANY flat panel TVs with excellent picture quality. I suspect their choices of phone screens are based upon energy consumption, cost effectiveness, and the plain ole theory that such a small size doesn't require an extravagantly engineered screen. Don't get me wrong, I love a super-amoled / OLED screen personally. When I compared the S7 vs my G5, I honestly was like....hmmmmmmmmmm, wish I had that screen though.. LOL
But from what I have read, the V20 screen is supposed to be far superior to that of the V10.
AMOLED has a major minus: screen burn, and the white turns muddy over time.
G Flex used to have AMOLED, but it turned out LG abandons it.
mingkee said:
AMOLED has a major minus: screen burn, and the white turns muddy over time.
G Flex used to have AMOLED, but it turned out LG abandons it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
AMOLED doesn't burn in normal use conditions anymore - this isn't 2012. The white also does not turn "muddy" over time - whatever the hell that means. You're making stuff up. Sure, some panels have had white uniformity issues... but Samsung may be resolving that as my Note7 is literally perfect. There is no defense for LG here. They either were too cheap to invest in their mobile division's display panels, or they are behind in their mobile division... which is funny considering they make the best OLED TVs in the world. Basically the only OLED TVs.
I've had an OLED display with my Note 2, 3, and 4. I too had hoped that LG was going with OLED this time for the V20, since they do make OLED TVs, but instead looks like they are still using the same LCD that is on the V10. At least Samsung stepped up the OLED on the Note 7 to support HDR.
You're very unlikely to see any light bleed on a high quality IPS-screen. I've never seen light bleed on an iPhone for example, but I had really bad light bleed on my Nexus 5. I also have absolutely zero light bleed on my OnePlus One.
mekanismen said:
You're very unlikely to see any light bleed on a high quality IPS-screen. I've never seen light bleed on an iPhone for example, but I had really bad light bleed on my Nexus 5. I also have absolutely zero light bleed on my OnePlus One.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The v10 had significant light bleed from the second screen.
Nitemare3219 said:
AMOLED doesn't burn in normal use conditions anymore - this isn't 2012.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you please explain further?
Don't all amoled screens burn in regardless of use because of it's organic components?
mekanismen said:
You're very unlikely to see any light bleed on a high quality IPS-screen. I've never seen light bleed on an iPhone for example, but I had really bad light bleed on my Nexus 5. I also have absolutely zero light bleed on my OnePlus One.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had a G4 and V10 both with terrible light bleed on a corner that I had to exchange. Also, IPS glow is a huge problem, and at night you don't get true blacks which is especially distracting with the second screen.
rivera02 said:
The v10 had significant light bleed from the second screen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly.
Sharpshooterrr said:
Can you please explain further?
Don't all amoled screens burn in regardless of use because of it's organic components?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That isn't burn in. Burn in is permanent image retention and an actual ghost image always being on the display. You may be thinking of OLED wear over time, becoming less bright - but it takes a significant amount of time for this. Theoretically I suppose if you used an OLED display for several hundred thousand hours it could eventually get so dim that you wouldn't want to use it anymore. But you are never going to hit that amount of hours. You will have moved onto something else long before then.
Sharpshooterrr said:
Can you please explain further?
Don't all amoled screens burn in regardless of use because of it's organic components?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My Galaxy S1 equivalent screen on my Samsung Epic was used 3 straight years as primary phone and didn't fade or burn-in.
I've read cliches' like this for years and mostly do not agree. The limitation I saw with using the older 2010 era Amoled screen was screen brightness in daylight. That's no longer an issue with newer Amoled panels since 2014 and always improving to the point Samsung Amoled panels exceed LCD panels in virtually every use category including brightness and efficiency.
Other users have experienced burn-in. My mother-in-law burned her S6 screen by charging phone and playing solitaire at same time. Not sure but I think fast charging was enabled. Heat combined with images that are continually displayed and not pixel shifted factor heavily with burn-in. So yes, it's possible but never happened to me. (Samsung does utilize pixel shift in the status bar to prevent burn-in. I'm unaware if pixel shift is used in third party applications like solitaire; her game used white cards on green background. Card images were retained and didn't respond to typical scrolling images to alleviate it.)
I don't use fast charging unless needed. Temperature can be bad on battery and display. I also try to avoid using my phone while in early stages of charging but my Note 4 does revert to slow charging when display is on.
IIRC, I read LG was transitioning to Amoled screens in late 2017. Apple is rumored to be switching to Amoled as well.
I've been known to squeeze 9 hours screen on time on my Note 4's stock 3220mah sized battery when mostly browsing on a single charge. Very much wanted the Note7 but locked bootloader kept me away before their battery became a headline exploding issue. Was also disappointed with edge only screen version and sealed battery. What an open for LG! I looked to LG to address shortcomings but lack of Amoled screen and locked bootloader prospect have me still looking and undecided for 2016 offerings thus far.
I may consider V20 if the bootloader was unlocked to allow TWRP and custom kernels. But I'd miss the Amoled screen. The battery door latch is cool though; I didn't want to lose removable battery feature and see little reason to trust Samsung's batteries to last 24 months without a letdown.
Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk
Nitemare3219 said:
LG is falling behind in the smartphone display world. My Note7 is the best phone display I have ever had, by far, and that is no exaggeration. Yet here we are with another flagship release by LG who are using dated technology on the most important component of a phone - the display. IPS contrast sucks. Contrast is a huge deciding factor in image quality - perhaps the most important. Additionally, LCDs and IPS in particular have substantial pixel response motion blur over AMOLED. I HAD to return my HTC 10 because I couldn't stand using the display with how muddy it looked compared to the AMOLED on my 6P, even though HTC touted their display as having a fast response rate. Simple actions like pulling down the notification shade produced easily noticeable differences between the devices. LG is well aware of how great OLED is - they invest billions in their OLED TV division. I have spent $7,000 this year between their 65" and 55" OLED TVs, and they are mind-blowing. LG needs to either purchase Samsung display panels, or invest in their seriously lacking mobile division, because they're going to end up like HTC sooner or later at this rate.
I hope this IPS panel is at least an improvement. The contrast is likely no better than 2000:1, which is great for an IPS, but poor overall. I'm not stoked about the always-on-display in the ticker area either. It is far less useful than the G5's or Note7's - another step backwards. And at night, LCD always-on-displays also look like crap with tons of halo/light bleed. The lack of detailed performance specs at the launch event was disappointing. Using the SD 820 was a poor choice, and you could have easily thrown 6GB of RAM in there. And launching in a few weeks is idiotic as well. They could have capitalized on the Note7's recall and gotten their device out before the iPhone 7 if they wanted to. We'll be lucky to have it by October. There better be a decent promotion, because I am on the fence about buying this phone with its poor display, less than stellar battery (even if replaceable), lack of water resistance, and ugly UI. I must give credit where it is due, and that is the audio and camera capabilities are out of this world (except for the 5 MP front camera - WHY) - and I appreciate them destroying the competition in those VERY important areas., and keeping a removable battery with a premium and durable design. But this phone could have been the best of 2016 if they wanted it to be. This phone hardly has any advantage over the Axon 7 for far less cash.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Would the v20 screen be less bright than the N7?
Nitemare3219 said:
AMOLED doesn't burn in normal use conditions anymore - this isn't 2012.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, it is 2016 and burn in at OLED displays still occurs and will occur. No matter how it's called (supertrooper amoled etc). At my SG7E, I got burn in after 10 days - I used Waze 2 hours every day; brightness at 50% etc. I've been told thay would replace a display as it was in warranty, but I decided to get money back (14 days period) and I will never go for OLED again.
ISP was what has me interested in this device, despite swearing LG off. I do not like OLED, mostly for the burn in issue. Yes, the technology has improved but burn in still exists.
Regarding the screen, I do have one question. It's touted as having a 5.7 inch screen but isn't part of that the second screen? If you can't shut off the second screen and use that space for displaying what's on the main screen, then the device has a 5.5 inch screen, not 5.7.
Should be the main screen that is 5.7 inches. That's how the v10 is. With the second screen it's closer to 5.9"
Sent from my awesome T-Mobile LG V10!
That's be nice. A competitive price and I could be swayed back to LG, provided they offer an unlocked model and do so reasonabley quick.
Sammae7 said:
ISP was what has me interested in this device, despite swearing LG off. I do not like OLED, mostly for the burn in issue. Yes, the technology has improved but burn in still exists.
Regarding the screen, I do have one question. It's touted as having a 5.7 inch screen but isn't part of that the second screen? If you can't shut off the second screen and use that space for displaying what's on the main screen, then the device has a 5.5 inch screen, not 5.7.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The V10 an V20 really have one LCD. It is just partitioned into the main 5.7" display, and the top ticker display.
I'm glad that they decided on LCD instead of AMOLED. Despite what has been said in this thread, burn-in is still happening especially when on screen navigation buttons are used. That's why Samsung avoids them. Also uneven degradation happens fairly quick when the status bar is black, which is the case with many apps such as Chrome.
I for one am happy that LG using IPS instead of OLED because the majority of OLED screens flicker at 240hz, which causes eye problems I seem to have eye damage and cannot use OLED screens at all.
I wrote more info about this problem here
I have an amoled burn in in the top of my screen note 3 and 4
Technically it's brighter since the white isn't usually used, the rest of the screen lost a couple percent brightness
It's amoled ageing not burn in. I'm probably getting a v20 if it's rootable. Almost got a note 7 but can't stand no root, sealed battery and fires. I'll admit I'd rather have amoled but ips is ok. Kinda sucks on nexus 5, hope v20 is much better.
Nitemare3219 said:
LG is falling behind in the smartphone display world. My Note7 is the best phone display I have ever had, by far, and that is no exaggeration. Yet here we are with another flagship release by LG who are using dated technology on the most important component of a phone - the display. IPS contrast sucks. Contrast is a huge deciding factor in image quality - perhaps the most important. Additionally, LCDs and IPS in particular have substantial pixel response motion blur over AMOLED. I HAD to return my HTC 10 because I couldn't stand using the display with how muddy it looked compared to the AMOLED on my 6P, even though HTC touted their display as having a fast response rate. Simple actions like pulling down the notification shade produced easily noticeable differences between the devices. LG is well aware of how great OLED is - they invest billions in their OLED TV division. I have spent $7,000 this year between their 65" and 55" OLED TVs, and they are mind-blowing. LG needs to either purchase Samsung display panels, or invest in their seriously lacking mobile division, because they're going to end up like HTC sooner or later at this rate.
I hope this IPS panel is at least an improvement. The contrast is likely no better than 2000:1, which is great for an IPS, but poor overall. I'm not stoked about the always-on-display in the ticker area either. It is far less useful than the G5's or Note7's - another step backwards. And at night, LCD always-on-displays also look like crap with tons of halo/light bleed. The lack of detailed performance specs at the launch event was disappointing. Using the SD 820 was a poor choice, and you could have easily thrown 6GB of RAM in there. And launching in a few weeks is idiotic as well. They could have capitalized on the Note7's recall and gotten their device out before the iPhone 7 if they wanted to. We'll be lucky to have it by October. There better be a decent promotion, because I am on the fence about buying this phone with its poor display, less than stellar battery (even if replaceable), lack of water resistance, and ugly UI. I must give credit where it is due, and that is the audio and camera capabilities are out of this world (except for the 5 MP front camera - WHY) - and I appreciate them destroying the competition in those VERY important areas., and keeping a removable battery with a premium and durable design. But this phone could have been the best of 2016 if they wanted it to be. This phone hardly has any advantage over the Axon 7 for far less cash.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Non-full rgb amoled's are garbage. IPS is superior. Nothing to see here.
So this is probably the worst display I have seen in a phone in years.
Little back story here. Right now I have 2 phones, one is up for sale on Swappa (OnePlus 9 Pro) which is a long story on why I'm selling it, and my temporary daily driver is a Motorola Power 2021. I got Moto because the 9Pro was unusable at the time and I needed something quick and cheap to hold me over until I figured out a long-term solution. Yea, 1st world issues here. lol
Well, once I fired up the Moto Power, I absolutely loved it but it just wasn't powerful enough and I knew I needed a bit more memory and a slightly faster CPU. So when the Edge was announced, I thought, well hell, I'll sell the 9Pro and grab an Edge. This would leave my Power as a backup to me and my family.
Anyway, I unboxed the Edge, powered it one and began the setup. About 30 seconds into the setup I realized the display is worse than the $200 Power. Heh. Screw this I'm returning the phone.
So what's wrong with the display? First of all the off-axis is horrid. Anything over 20 degrees, it dims out and the colors shift. On-axis, I see nothing but a halo effect that was the norm of LCD displays from 2010, like the OG droid, which gave me a headache.
I really wanted to like this phone, and I think I would have if it wasn't for the display. I didn't get a chance to mess with it before purchase, so there is that. I wouldn't have bought it if I had hands-on with it first.
So not sure where I'm going from here. I guess unlist my 9pro and deal with it's issues until they fix their crappy firmware or maybe a Pixel 5a, but I'm old and need a larger display. Maybe another Moto like the the G Stylus or the Edge 2020. I just know I will be window shopping next time.
I just wanted to share my experience. I hope everyone enjoys this device, it's just not for me.
Cheers!
Thanks for your input. That's what was worrying me, was the display. I think I'll look else where.
If anyone has any specific questions regarding the display, or anything where it doesn't require inserting a SIM, let me know. I'm still waiting to get confirmation from Motorola about returning the device, so I have time to do testing for those who are curious.
I have one question for anyone out there that can answer, as I'm not very knowledgeable on display technologies that aren't AMOLED...
The comparison chart on Motorola's website show the following for display technologies:
Motorola Edge (2021) - LCD, 8-bit, 144Hz refresh rate, Up to 576Hz touch latency
The Cheap Moto G Power (2021) - Simply says: IPS
and then the two phones I'm interested in, the Stylus and the One 5G Ace both indicate LTPS displays.
Okay so I know that the LCD display the Edge has; my eyes are not fond of.
The Moto G Power has IPS, I feel is quite nice. It's not AMOLED, and when turned sideways while wearing polarized glasses, of course turns the display black.
What's up with LTPS??! I've never heard of this technology before. Is this better or worse than LCD and or IPS?
Thanks!
Liking mine
Screen is IPS and the viewing angle is like One Ace
144Hz rate doesn't have much benefit due to LCD/IPS response time
Set to automatic is the best bet
Tornlogic said:
I have one question for anyone out there that can answer, as I'm not very knowledgeable on display technologies that aren't AMOLED...
The comparison chart on Motorola's website show the following for display technologies:
Motorola Edge (2021) - LCD, 8-bit, 144Hz refresh rate, Up to 576Hz touch latency
The Cheap Moto G Power (2021) - Simply says: IPS
and then the two phones I'm interested in, the Stylus and the One 5G Ace both indicate LTPS displays.
Okay so I know that the LCD display the Edge has; my eyes are not fond of.
The Moto G Power has IPS, I feel is quite nice. It's not AMOLED, and when turned sideways while wearing polarized glasses, of course turns the display black.
What's up with LTPS??! I've never heard of this technology before. Is this better or worse than LCD and or IPS?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LTPS is Low-Temperature PolySilicon. A substrate the LCD is manufactured onto. It is still an IPS LCD screen, just manufactured using a different process that also has the benefit of making it easier to create LCDs with a higher pixel density. It also improves the display's power consumption over older IPS LCDs.
The screen on my Edge 2021 is just like the screen on my previous phones that use IPS LCDs, be it LTPS or not. If the Edge screen bothers you but other IPS LCD displays do not, then I think it's your device that is the problem and not the technology itself.
I'm extremely flicker sensitive and avoid using AMOLED screens. The Edge's screen is nice for me to look at.