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[Q] Charging ASUS transformer using computer?

I wanted to know if it is possible to charge the ASUS transformer using a computer?
Is there any hack for it?

umasood said:
I wanted to know if it is possible to charge the ASUS transformer using a computer?
Is there any hack for it?
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IIRC it will charge if the transformer is turned off but very slowly
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When I was driving the other day with it connected to the USB charger in the car (same as PC USB) and it got 4% in about an hour.

isnt this the biggest DOWN SIDE of TF.
Like this is such a basic feature these days that you should be able to charge your android device using PC usb/ charger etc.
I thought there would be some hacks for this. or is this a hardware specific lacking?

The USB plug on the Sync/Charge cable of the Transformer is a USB 3.0 plug. It uses the extra pins of the USB 3.0 for the electricity to charge.

umasood said:
isnt this the biggest DOWN SIDE of TF.
Like this is such a basic feature these days that you should be able to charge your android device using PC usb/ charger etc.
I thought there would be some hacks for this. or is this a hardware specific lacking?
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I don't think this issue is specific to the Transformer. I seem to recall that the iPad comes with a high-current charger, and charges slowly if done via a computer. I think the issue is that the battery is much larger than any smartphone battery, and the USB port spec was created to power things like mice and USB memory sticks, and provides a low current. This way it also won't overload the host computer's power supply and cause stability issues on the computer.

nxt said:
The USB plug on the Sync/Charge cable of the Transformer is a USB 3.0 plug. It uses the extra pins of the USB 3.0 for the electricity to charge.
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the extra wires in USB 3.0 cables are for higher speed transfers the voltage is still 5.0V the TF uses one of the wires to signal the power supply to provide 15V vs 5 V. The connector is not a true USB 3.0 If you want to charge mobile ,just connect the 12VDC from your vehicle to pins 1 and 4.

After reading this i put my transformer in the USB 3 socket and hey presto... trickle charge enabled! It doesnt say that its dojing it but mine went up from 95 - 96% in the 10 mins i had it pluged in (whilst on it)

mazimo said:
After reading this i put my transformer in the USB 3 socket and hey presto... trickle charge enabled! It doesnt say that its dojing it but mine went up from 95 - 96% in the 10 mins i had it pluged in (whilst on it)
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Awesome, it would only take like 16h to charge it from empty to full then! ... compared to ~1.5-2h depending on use with the 15v charger.
But if you want to charge it from the PC, just hook it up to the 12v rail on the PSU (build a molex to usb adapter or similar)
Edit: what would be interesting though, is if you could charge and sync at the same time by connecting the data cables to a usb port, but keep the power cables hooked to the 12v rail. Or maybe the TF shuts down all sync stuff when its charging...

Just a quick update... After 6 hours if gone up to a whapping...... 76%
I guess it was just playing trick on me!!!! sorry to get peoples hopes up.

Go look at USB3.0 specs. You do not have the current and Voltage necessary to do anything more than a slow trickle charge. 3.0 os basically 2.0 with an extra pair of wires for faster data transfer not higher voltage. The connector on the TF charger is not wired to USB3.0 standards.

The AC adapter reconfigures itself when it recognizes the asus tablet and it gives 12v instead of 5volts. Just tried now and it's working.

Question about charging

Reading the manual, it says after charging the first time, that the tablet can be charged by USB if there is enough power through the USB port. I put an extension between the Asus adapter and the proprietary cord, and it won't charge unless directly connected to the adapter. I have USB 3 port on my computer that gives out higher than standard power, and I have a USB port in my car, and this tablet won't charge on anything except a direct single asus wire connection to the Asus adapter. Is this correct? It seems that I may have a defective tablet.
Are there any other people having this issue.

USB 3.0
pixel-painter said:
Reading the manual, it says after charging the first time, that the tablet can be charged by USB if there is enough power through the USB port. I put an extension between the Asus adapter and the proprietary cord, and it won't charge unless directly connected to the adapter. I have USB 3 port on my computer that gives out higher than standard power, and I have a USB port in my car, and this tablet won't charge on anything except a direct single asus wire connection to the Asus adapter. Is this correct? It seems that I may have a defective tablet.
Are there any other people having this issue.
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The USB extension also needs to be USB 3.0. Is the one you're using?

The extension was to the power outlet in the wall.
I wonder if the Asus chord is made for USB 3 then?
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Is your extension just a USB extension or a powered USB extension? Maybe it carries data but not power? Can you charge other devices with the extension (and do they actually charge at a decent rate)?

Yes! I charge my htc sensation on it all the time. But I more than that, I am trying to find out if others are able to charge via the Asus proprietary USB cord to another source such as a computer or car etc.....
as opposed to using the wall power adapter from Asus
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I also can't get the tf700 to charge with any adapter other than the supplied charger. I've tried 500mA, 1A and 1.9A (from a Nook color) USB chargers and none work.
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pearl62 said:
I also can't get the tf700 to charge with any adapter other than the supplied charger. I've tried 500mA, 1A and 1.9A (from a Nook color) USB chargers and none work.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda app-developers app
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I am quite certain that it says in the user manual that it is possible to charge via USB, i don't have it with me at work, but can someone verify this.... it could be a major issue for some, and needs to be addressed. I know that the battery power at full charge is not going to last all day for me, and being able to charge via USB is really important since i am in sales so i do not have access to an electrical outlet, but i do have a USB port in my car.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda premium

I'll add my personal experience to this...
When I got the tablet I put in a basic USB extension cable between the tablet cable and the outlet adapter. I didn't notice for an hour or so that it wasn't saying it was "charging".
Except...in that hour the battery hadn't gone at all.
And with the screen off and left to its own devices it will charge to 100%.
So I guess the point is this, it may not say its charging but it is getting power. If you're using it as like an overnight charging thing, it should work just fine.

Doesn't the manual say that you need to power it off before changing over USB?

Splaktar said:
Doesn't the manual say that you need to power it off before changing over USB?
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Thanks for pointing this out.
I'll have to check this out, but I hope one doesn't need to have to restart a tablet, just to change the power source. Kind of a pain

troa11 said:
I'll add my personal experience to this...
When I got the tablet I put in a basic USB extension cable between the tablet cable and the outlet adapter. I didn't notice for an hour or so that it wasn't saying it was "charging".
Except...in that hour the battery hadn't gone at all.
And with the screen off and left to its own devices it will charge to 100%.
So I guess the point is this, it may not say its charging but it is getting power. If you're using it as like an overnight charging thing, it should work just fine.
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So maybe it is charging a little, even though it says it isn't. I think I will try this out and leave it for a few hours or overnight as a test.

pixel-painter said:
So maybe it is charging a little, even though it says it isn't. I think I will try this out and leave it for a few hours or overnight as a test.
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So I plugged into the USB port and the power level was at 78%, I left it plugged in for about 5 hours and when i rechecked, it read 97%. The whole time it read as Not charging. This is good news, I really need that feature. It is interesting that it reads as Not charging, this must be a software error.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda premium

See this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788055

[Q] P6800 Won't Charge In Vehicle

Had the same issue with Tab 8.9. I have a 2012 Wrangler, with a built in USB port, also have a USB charger plugged into the power port. When I connect my 7.7, all I get is a red X over the battery icon. In the settings under status, it says "discharging".i have no issues with my Note2 using the same ports. Have tried different cables with the tab.
Any body have any ideas? The tab is stock, unrooted, running ICS.

The Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 being a tablet needs a 2A charger to charge, most smartphones need only 1A some even less
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TeeeJaay said:
The Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 being a tablet needs a 2A charger to charge, most smartphones need only 1A some even less
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My USB charger is a 2 Amp, but is dual port. Could have sworn the package said it was 2 amps per port, unless both ports were used, then would be 1amp per port. Then my other is 2.5 Micro USB, BUT has a USB port in it as well.

The P6800 is picky for what charger you use. I got several chargers and tabs and phones. 2 of those are very picky, the 7.7 and the HP-touchpad.
Just get a real Samsung car charger and you will be ok.

maybe the thing (tab) needs to be powered) OFF before it will charge in your car's USB charge port...
I know at home with the USB plugged into the laptop.. it will NOT charge,,,...unless I power it OFF.. then it will charge...

jimmbomb said:
maybe the thing (tab) needs to be powered) OFF before it will charge in your car's USB charge port...
I know at home with the USB plugged into the laptop.. it will NOT charge,,,...unless I power it OFF.. then it will charge...
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I'll give that a shot, although would be pointless. Can't use gps, data or phone if it's off. I haven't bought the OEM charger for it yet.
Thanks!

davidusr said:
Had the same issue with Tab 8.9. I have a 2012 Wrangler, with a built in USB port, also have a USB charger plugged into the power port. When I connect my 7.7, all I get is a red X over the battery icon. In the settings under status, it says "discharging".i have no issues with my Note2 using the same ports. Have tried different cables with the tab.
Any body have any ideas? The tab is stock, unrooted, running ICS.
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Hi,
I spent a lot of time searching for good charger (bought at least 4) different types, and got allways the same results the red X until few days ago. I tried my Samsung I9100 phone cable (micro USB) with an adpter (P1000) bought from eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-3...Readers_USB_Host_Adapters&hash=item484f20b751) for almost nothing. The result was impressive, on on hour drive the device charges at a rate of 10% progress (without having the red X).
Some thing else that may interst some of questioning the charge from the laptop, I had the same fantastic result (but the adapter does not allow Sync).
Cheers

Have a look at this thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473084
there are ways to get this done.. you'll just have to buy a new piece of hardware and they are way cheap.
good luck..

[Q] OTG and Charging

I recently got a Nexus 5 to replace my old Nexus S and really like it. I am having one challenge that I was hoping for help on:
I have got OTG working with stickmount fine, but I am trying to use this Y-cable to charge while using it and I can't get the phone to charge from the cable at all (with or without a USB drive connected). I have been able to get other, non-Nexus's to charge from the cable so it isn't the cable that is the problem.
I am rooted but running a stock kernel and rom - any ideas why it might not be working or if there is a custom kernel that has enabled the capability otherwise disabled in the phone?

Probably you need a modified Kernel like Nexus 7
avalpert said:
I recently got a Nexus 5 to replace my old Nexus S and really like it. I am having one challenge that I was hoping for help on:
I have got OTG working with stickmount fine, but I am trying to use this Y-cable to charge while using it and I can't get the phone to charge from the cable at all (with or without a USB drive connected). I have been able to get other, non-Nexus's to charge from the cable so it isn't the cable that is the problem.
I am rooted but running a stock kernel and rom - any ideas why it might not be working or if there is a custom kernel that has enabled the capability otherwise disabled in the phone?
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You need a modified Kernel something like the following Kernel. But at the moment it is only available for Nexus 7.
http://mehrvarz.github.io/usb-host-mode-power-management-nexus7/

I'm interested in this too

wicpp said:
You need a modified Kernel something like the following Kernel. But at the moment it is only available for Nexus 7.
http://mehrvarz.github.io/usb-host-mode-power-management-nexus7/
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I had OTG charging on my Galaxy Nexus as well as the N7. I just tried it too on my N5 with Elemental X kernel, no go. That's odd no one has come out with this feature yet if that's the case as I'm sure it's very sought after especially with people who have the 16gb model like myself that hook up to external hard drives to save space on the phone but they need external power.

Otg + Charging is also very useful when you are playing games using GamePad
t1.8matt said:
I had OTG charging on my Galaxy Nexus as well as the N7. I just tried it too on my N5 with Elemental X kernel, no go. That's odd no one has come out with this feature yet if that's the case as I'm sure it's very sought after especially with people who have the 16gb model like myself that hook up to external hard drives to save space on the phone but they need external power.
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If you are using a USB Connection Game Pad via OTG, graphics heavy games use too much battery and usually you can not play for long. This also increases the importance of such kernel for Nexus 5 as well. Nexus 5 have smaller battery but it can play decent Graphics.
I do not like Game Pads with Bluetooth connectivity as they have control latency or lag and your moves are not as quick as even the touch screen, where as you use Game Pads to improve your control moves and probably make them better than touch screen.

wicpp said:
If you are using a USB Connection Game Pad via OTG, graphics heavy games use too much battery and usually you can not play for long. This also increases the importance of such kernel for Nexus 5 as well. Nexus 5 have smaller battery but it can play decent Graphics.
I do not like Game Pads with Bluetooth connectivity as they have control latency or lag and your moves are not as quick as even the touch screen, where as you use Game Pads to improve your control moves and probably make them better than touch screen.
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The PS sixaxis controller worked great on my N7 for a while, no lag in gameplay. Until Asus had to fix it then I could never get it to work properly again.

I think Nexus 5 USB Port is 5 Pin
t1.8matt said:
The PS sixaxis controller worked great on my N7 for a while, no lag in gameplay. Until Asus had to fix it then I could never get it to work properly again.
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I think that Nexus 5 USB Port is 5 Pin and not 11 pin like Galaxy S4 or Galaxy S3. Can someone please confirm this?
If this is the case will be still be able to Charger Phone and do OTG concurrently or simultaneously ?

Yes but I believe it's something that has to be addressed at the kernel level.
I use a powered USB hub and even though the phone doesn't show any charging animations, going into the battery info screen shows it is charging (though it doesn't say usb or ac, just charging)
from what I have seen it's even less than trickle charge.
USB flash drive mounted.
Screen off
Battery goes up about 1% every 10-15 minutes.
So clearly current is being passed from the hub to the phone. Just not a lot
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Can we use QI Wireless Charging along OTG
Alex240188 said:
Yes but I believe it's something that has to be addressed at the kernel level.
I use a powered USB hub and even though the phone doesn't show any charging animations, going into the battery info screen shows it is charging (though it doesn't say usb or ac, just charging)
from what I have seen it's even less than trickle charge.
USB flash drive mounted.
Screen off
Battery goes up about 1% every 10-15 minutes.
So clearly current is being passed from the hub to the phone. Just not a lot
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I am not sure but can we use QI Wireless charging along OTG. I have read somewhere that it charges but there is a bug in Kernel due to which it does not know that battery is being charged there is no animation or text to show that battery is being charged. Another concern is that if OS does not know about charging and battery is being charged is it not dangerous can it not overcharge and below the battery etc.?

Alex240188 said:
Battery goes up about 1% every 10-15 minutes.
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I use exactly the same Y-cable from amazon as avalpert. I connect my USB 2.5" harddisk first at the Nexus charger and let it spin up. Then i connect the OTG cable to my Nexus 5 (rooted stock ROM & stock kernel). The battery icon in the status bar has no charging animation but in settings it says its charging. Around 1% in 5-10min. Even if the screen is on.
@ avalpert: U could check the current of your usb drive in the manufacturer's datasheet and subtract this from the current, your charger is able to provide. My Nexus 5 charger can output max. 1.2A at 5V. Maybe you're using another model and there is just little current left to charge as Alex remarked.

But the difference is I was only powering a flash drive which uses next to no power. And still only 1% every 10-15 minutes.
My best guess is that because otg is enabled. The kernel is not able to tell what type of charging type (ac or USB) is connected so it just enables trickle charge as not to cause any problems
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Alex240188 said:
Yes but I believe it's something that has to be addressed at the kernel level.
I use a powered USB hub and even though the phone doesn't show any charging animations, going into the battery info screen shows it is charging (though it doesn't say usb or ac, just charging)
from what I have seen it's even less than trickle charge.
USB flash drive mounted.
Screen off
Battery goes up about 1% every 10-15 minutes.
So clearly current is being passed from the hub to the phone. Just not a lot
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I can confirm this, I use a powered 7 port USB 2.0 hub, and with the original PS: no charging.
Now I took another PS that puts out 2.14-1.7A @ 6-7.5 VDC, and hey presto, charging the phone!
No indicator in the status bar (top screen), but when checking the battery status it clearly states "CHARGING" (see picture OPLADEN 95%)!!
And it charges pretty fast too.....
The mouse is working, as wel as the USB stick is recognized and working!!
The ONLY worry is about the charge....... is 6-7.5 V a battery killer? :fingers-crossed:
Anyone?

Used Voltage and Current Rating details of Power Supply?
dirkzelf said:
I can confirm this, I use a powered 7 port USB 2.0 hub, and with the original PS: no charging.
Now I took another PS that puts out 2.14-1.7A @ 6-7.5 VDC, and hey presto, charging the phone!
No indicator in the status bar (top screen), but when checking the battery status it clearly states "CHARGING" (see picture OPLADEN 95%)!!
And it charges pretty fast too.....
The mouse is working, as wel as the USB stick is recognized and working!!
The ONLY worry is about the charge....... is 6-7.5 V a battery killer? :fingers-crossed:
Anyone?
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Can you please show the power supply that you are using in the picture? What is the exact voltage you are using 6V or 75.V? And exact current 21.4A or 1.7A?

wicpp said:
Can you please show the power supply that you are using in the picture? What is the exact voltage you are using 6V or 75.V? And exact current 21.4A or 1.7A?
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I found the rating strange myself as wel, but it is exactly as I mentioned, but since I didn't trust it up ahead, I just went to my basement to see if I had something better, and I found a 5V 2A.
That should be OK, right?

Can you tell the result of using 5V 2A Power Supply.
dirkzelf said:
I found the rating strange myself as wel, but it is exactly as I mentioned, but since I didn't trust it up ahead, I just went to my basement to see if I had something better, and I found a 5V 2A.
That should be OK, right?
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Yes 5V 2A seems write but I still can not give you any guarantee it might blow your device so do it at your own risk
If you can do this, then please tell how the charging speed is going along OTG use on 5V 2A?

wicpp said:
Yes 5V 2A seems write but I still can not give you any guarantee it might blow your device so do it at your own risk
If you can do this, then please tell how the charging speed is going along OTG use on 5V 2A?
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Here are the pictures of the PS specs. Hope it clears your question? Pls let me know.

it may be interesting to read this forum / info on 2A charging of the nexus 5...... :
http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-5/331746-2a-charger-nexus-5-a.html

wicpp said:
Yes 5V 2A seems write but I still can not give you any guarantee it might blow your device so do it at your own risk
If you can do this, then please tell how the charging speed is going along OTG use on 5V 2A?
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Alright, from 84% tot 97% in 90 minutes.....
That is connected with micro usb otg cable to powered (5vdc 2a) USB hub and with the screen on.
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May be we can use fix Voltage and AMP output adapter
dirkzelf said:
Alright, from 84% tot 97% in 90 minutes.....
That is connected with micro usb otg cable to powered (5vdc 2a) USB hub and with the screen on.
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May be we can use fixed output voltage and amp adapter just like the following
http://www.amazon.co.uk/2000mah-Ada...ds=5V+2A+2000ma+AC+Power+Adapter+Wall+Charger
I know it is up to the device (Nexus 5) that how much load it will put on the adapter to consumer out of 2000ma or 2A. On the other hand I have read somewhere that even most 2000mA USB Chargers just give 500mA in the beginning and due to some data pins activity they start generating 2000mA. If this is the case then Nexus 5 will force only 500mA or so from the charger that it is not compatible with. If we use some adapter that generates constant 5V 2000mA irrelevant of communication on data pins like the ones with 3.5mm pin which does not have any data pins, at least we are guaranteed that, at least full power is coming out of the adapter at all times.

wicpp said:
May be we can use fixed voltage and amp adapter just like the following
http://www.amazon.co.uk/2000mah-Ada...ds=5V+2A+2000ma+AC+Power+Adapter+Wall+Charger
I know it is up to the device (Nexus 5) that how much load it will put on the adapter to consumer out of 2000ma or 2A. On the other hand I have read somewhere that even most 2000mA USB Chargers just give 500mA in the beginning and due to some data pins activity they start generating 2000mA. If this is the case then Nexus 5 will force only 500mA or so from the charger that it is not compatible with. If we use some adapter that generates constant 5V 2000mA irrelevant of communication on data pins like the ones with 3.5mm pin which does not have any data pins at least we are guaranteed that at least full power is coming out of the adapter at all times.
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I am given to understand that it has nothing to do with the "intelligence" of the charger, but with basic electrical principles.
That would imlpicate that if a device requires 500 mA, the charger will supply 500 mA, if the device would require 3000mA, then it would supply 2000 mA, being it's maximum current (flow).
As far as I know, a powersource ONLY generates a flow (Amps) up to it's maximum limit, if it is connected to a consumer (device). No connected device / consumer leaves no flow to be generated.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Added to my little test earlier today: The phone didn't get hot, at most it would be slightly less cool..... for the PS the same.

[Q] Charging from the computer/aftermarket wallcharger

Hi all, thanks for reading, appreciate in advance for the input.
So I bought my note pro in the manufacturer refurbished condition. The tablet is fine and nothing's wrong. However, I can't charge it from anything but the stock wall charger. It will not charge from the computer using any of the USB cables (3.0 and 2.0) or from an aftermarket wall charger. I wanna confirm if my tablet is defect or is a bug (feature?) of the note pro
Thanks

Not uncommon for computer USB ports to not charge it, the tablet requires higher current output. What's the rated output of the aftermarket chargers you're using?
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muzzy996 said:
Not uncommon for computer USB ports to not charge it, the tablet requires higher current output. What's the rated output of the aftermarket chargers you're using?
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I'm not sure, but that makes sense. I will double check tomorrow.
Many thanks

After further testing I can confirm that the output current has to be at least 2A for it to charge the tablet.

The only way for it to charge from a USBport is by turning it off completely. It does charge when it's on, but about 1-2% per hour.
It's normal, all newer, stronger devices require 2A or more for them to charge properly.
If you think that's bad, you should've seen the Asus T700T... It required 15 volt or it wouldn't charge at all, not even slowly.

charger voltage and amperage
It will charge just fine with 5v/1.5a charger. I have been using a phone charger and it works fine. Actually it works better than the included 2.0A charger.
The key is if you are using a 3.0 or 2.0 USB charger. I use a USB 3.0 charger. I will have to try a 2.0 USB charger to see if it will work.
More after it test some more chargers.