[Q][REQ] MIUI for the Moto G - Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just bought this awesome device and I'm extremely happy with it so far. Great design, unrivaled performance at this price. It has great dev support (thank you for the hard work, devs), everithing is just fine.
My previous device was an Xperia X8, I used it for 3 years. It's kinda old and slow and has a very limited hardware. But the fact that there is a working MIUI port for even this old and crappy handset made me wondering why isn't the G supported.
I'm neither a developer nor a programmer, and altough I'm using custom stuff such as ROMs and kernels since 2011, I can only call myself an experienced user. I'm a former MIUI user, and i found it the fanciest and even the best ROM out there for the X8. I miss its features and UI, but as I mentioned earlier, I don't have the knowledge necessary for porting the ROM myself. Therefore must I ask/request it here: Would it be possible to make a working MIUI ROM for the G? I don't know how much work that would take, but I wanna kindly request the developers to at least give it a try.
Sadly I'm only 16 and I can't donate. All that I can do is to hit the thanks button and maybe to help at testing.
Best regards, thanks in advance
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[Q] Who understands the SMS/MMS system?

i have an Inspire4G, an iPhone, and an Atrix... i have unlocked and rooted and put Cyanogen & other mods on my Android based phones that I have now, and my N1 from the past as well as others for friends.
but i fully admit, i am NO expert... i rely on those who understand the system more than i, to do what i've done.
And, i am THANKFUL for all the work you have all put in.
SO - here's my issue, the iPhone has the group/threaded MMS ability... its a commonly known issue, a common question, and run through google shows many asking for options. some Blackberry devices can join these threads, and i'm pretty sure my iDen devices back in the day could as well. but Android cannot (currently).
i have tried GoSMS and Handscent, and it seems like they are merely better front-end clients with more/different notification features that feed off a base SMS/MMS from the core system. someone please correct me if i am wrong.
so - my questions: what keeps us from joining them? is it that an app can't be written to do this because the system can't do this?
is it simply that there is no way to modify the base Android system to handle this, and we all must wait for Google to include the needed code or libraries to do so?
is there not a... 'standard' or maybe available code from other systems that could be applied to the current base SMS/MMS system to allow for grouping in some way?
i ask today because the majority of the people in my world are iPhone users, and now that Group Messaging is active by default in iOS5, its becoming used more and more... to a frustrating level. i originally thought it would be as simple as waiting for GoSMS to thread the incoming texts, but as i've tried various options and apps it seems they're all based on something limiting.
and i'd like someone who knows more than i to explain (hopefully in simple terms) what keeps Android from adding what seems to be an old ability, really so i can know if there's hope for a change soon... or if its not even possible. hell, maybe this will come in ICS/4.0, or maybe its not possible.
again, thanks to all the devs - if it weren't for your skills and work, none of us would have the great devices we do.

[Q] - Do we need a Android manager and core utilities ?

Hey Guys,
Though this may be my first post, i will was i am no pro nor noob. With that out of the way, I've been on android since gb stock and custom (usually custom 2-3hr after i get a new phone XD ). Android has improved leaps and bounds. However, simple things are either complex ( such as managing nandroids or even obtaining for some users), convoluted ( media management, migration to a new rom while retaining data etc.), or costly( the new airdroid, helium backup etc..). I feel that a lot of the paid services while awesome, simply cost too much.
So that said would anyone be interested in:
A cross platform Android manager
A set of core android utilities (on your phone)
Incorporating premium functionality and a nice gui (probably material based).
If so what functionality would you like ?
Some links to some existing works ?
some cool ideas ? ~~
**NOTE **
i do know there are quite a few initiative towards this goal.
The idea is to have a unified toolset to form an unofficial official Environment & utilities.
I want all feedback good or bad to keep this a realistic as possible.
And yes i can program quite well, as can my colleagues.
IF this comes into fruition it will be a community project and the idea is to have a very very low cost product with all the features you need/want.
SO Shoot !!
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Vote for upcoming Custom ROMs for Redmi Note 5 / Redmi Note 5 Pro

Hi,
I just want you all to vote for your favourite custom ROM for Redmi Note 5 / Redmi Note 5 Pro. This will help the developer community to better understand the general public demand.
Here is a short description f each type of custom ROM given above(may not be in same order!)
1. LineageOS
We start off with the biggest name in the custom ROM scene – LineageOS. While many of you might not be familiar with the name, LineageOS is actually the same custom ROM that started as CyanogenMod. Back in the fall of 2016, Cyanogen Inc. announced that it was discontinuing development and shut down the infrastructure behind the project. Since then, the developer community has kept the project alive, but under the name of LineageOS. Built on top of Google’s AOSP code and adding their own custom code to it, LineageOS works as a standalone ROM as well as the source code for many other custom ROMs out there. It has the biggest developer team under its name and officially has support for over 190 devices. The ROM includes basic but useful features that include but are not limited to customizing the status bar, changing the overall theme, editing the navbar and much more. While Google’s AOSP is barebones, LineageOS gives it a sense of customizability while maintaining stability.
The ROM offers builds for Android Marshmallow (6.x) and Nougat (7.x), with support for Oreo (8.0) coming soon. Also, the list of officially supported devices includes offerings from Samsung, HTC, Motorola, LG, Xiaomi, OnePlus and more.
2. SlimRoms
If minimalism is what you’re looking for, SlimRoms is right up your alley. Possibly the lightest and most functional custom ROM out there, the SlimRoms project is based on the AOSP code while adding useful tweaks to it. The most notable features of the SlimRoms project is the inclusion of the Slim Recents and the Slim PIE. The recents alternative is used to display the recent apps in a sidebar, as opposed to occupying the entire screen. The PIE, on the other hand, comes as a navbar replacement, that proves to be highly useful when using your device in Immersive mode. Other SlimRoms features include a custom dialer, custom Quick Settings tiles, lock screen shortcuts, Privacy Guard, and more. The SlimRoms project offers simple and minimalistic transitions that end up resulting in a clean and neat interface, that can further be customized should the user choose to.
SlimRoms have been around for a while and is available on all major OEMs such as Google, LG, HTC, Moto, Samsung, Xiaomi, OnePlus and more. The latest supported version is Android Nougat 7.1.2, and a build for Android Oreo (8.0) is expected to be released soon.
3. Paranoid Android
Another great ROM that doubles up as a source for many other custom ROMs out there, Paranoid Android is one of the most acclaimed custom ROMs of all times. The development team focuses on bringing a polished and refined experience while using minimum resources. While it may not boast of the plethora of features and customizations that other ROMs offer, Paranoid Android or PA, does promise a soothing user experience overall. It comes with its own unique features such as Hover mode, which allows the user to view and interact with their notifications from any screen, (which was then integrated into AOSP as part of Heads-up notifications). It also offers its own version of the PIE menu, as well as a fully immersive mode for Android. Paranoid Android has long been regarded as the main project from which Google has brought over a lot of features, one biggest feature being the Ambient Mode, which was present in PA as Peek.
While PA did experience a few bumps lately, causing the development scene to slow down a bit, it is now back and is better than ever, with officially supporting Android Nougat 7.1.2, and support for Android Oreo 8.0 to be released soon. It’s available for devices from Nexus, Pixel, OnePlus, Sony, Oppo and more.
4. Resurrection Remix
For all those users who like to boast about the tons of features that their device has, you can’t do better than Resurrection Remix. Probably one of the most famous custom ROMs out there, Resurrection Remix (RR) has been around for a long time now and is preferred by a huge number of people. RR’s ideology has been to offer the maximum number of features available to the user, and it delivers it in a great fashion. It uses AOSP, LineageOS, SlimRoms, and Paranoid Android; all as its main source code, and then adds extra features to it. While most ROMs cherry pick selected features and add them to their code, RR adds just about anything and everything there is to offer. This does, of course, come at a cost. The ROM itself is quite hefty and seems to be a bit heavier on system resources. Also, having tons of features all mixed up in the code do end up making the ROM unstable at times.
RR currently supports all major devices from manufacturers like Samsung, HTC, LG, Moto, Lenovo, Huawei, OnePlus,and more. Also, it is one of the fastest ROMs to be delivered, so expect Android Oreo 8.0 anytime soon.
5. Dirty Unicorns
If I were to describe Dirty Unicorns in my own words, I’d have to say it is the stable version of Resurrection Remix. This is because of the plethora of customization features it offers is great, and it does so without any loss in the stability of the ROM. This is because the major difference between DU and RR is that while RR simply merges the various codes into one main project, RR’s team actually rewrites the entire code from scratch to ensure system stability. While this does mean that updates come a little slower, they are still able to deliver fortnightly updates. Also, DU has its own DU-SmartBar as well as FlingBar, that are both navigation bar replacements. While the former one functions to add more buttons to the normal navigation bar, the latter one replaces the navbar with a gesture-enabled panel that you can customize. Lately, the development team behind DU decided to remove certain features from the ROM, but those features were simply the ones users like to have on their device but never use it in real life. As a result, the latest versions are stable than ever and goes easier on the system’s resources.
DU currently supports Android Nougat 7.1.2 , and Oreo 8.0 is expected to be released in a couple of weeks for all major devices from Samsung, Moto, LG, OnePlus, Nexus, Pixel, and more.
6. AOSP Extended
As the name suggests, AOSP Extended is built directly from the AOSP source code and adds various cherry-picked commits from multiple other projects. Like all custom ROMs out there that are based on AOSP, AOSP Extended provides a smooth and lag-free experience out of the box. The AOSP Extended is also not short on features (or as the dev team likes to call it – Extensions), boasting of multiple customizability options available to modify the status bar, lock screen, and other Android settings. It also exhibits DU’s navbar/Flingbar, as well as other carefully selected features that mix well with Google’s imagination of Android. The development team behind AOSP Extended is also highly active, rolling out timely updates at the start of each month. AOSP Extended is in most ways, one of the most dependable custom ROMs out there that can be used as a daily driver.
It’s currently available for many devices including the likes of LG, Xiaomi, Lenovo, HTC, Samsung, OnePlus and more, and currently runs on Android Nougat 7.1.2.
7. Pure Nexus
Imagine being on your device’s stock ROM, but with slight tweaks here and there that allow you to customize your device to your choice without losing out on the stock stability. Well, if you own a Nexus or a Pixel device, this is easily possible for you. The Pure Nexus project has been around ever since Nexus 4 and has grown on to support all the Nexus and Pixel devices, with active development on all of them. It offers the same AOSP experience that’s exclusive to Google’s lineup, along with truly tested features and minimal or no bugs. In my experience with this ROM, the battery life was just the same as the stock ROM, but I was able to customize a few things here and there. To put it into better words, think of Pure Nexus as custom ROM that delivers the same experience that you’d get if you had installed Xposed and Gravity Box on the stock AOSP ROM.
The Pure Nexus project is only officially available for the Pixel and Nexus lineup, though it has been ported to other devices as well. It already has support for Android Oreo 8.0.
8. Carbon ROM
To define Carbon ROM would take up more than a couple of words. In your first run of this ROM, you’d find it similar to just about every other custom ROM out there. Use it for a couple of days, and you literally start experiencing the true beauty of Carbon ROM. One of the first ROMs to successfully implement Substratum (initially RRO and Layers), Carbon ROM is regarded as one of the most stable ROMs out there. The added functionalities in the form of CarbonFibers include tons of mods for the System, Status bar, buttons, lights, gestures and other various options. While it still lacks behind RR in the race for maximum customizability features, Carbon ROM still manages to hold its ground. Longtime users find it really hard to switch to any other ROM, for even though the features may be present on other ROMs as well, the smoothness and stability is unmatched. CarbonROM is available on a plethora of devices, thanks to its long-running development, and officially supports major offerings from Samsung, HTC, LG, OnePlus and more. It currently runs on Android Nougat 7.1.2, with support for Android Oreo 8.0 coming soon.
9. ViperOS
Another ROM based on the AOSP Gerrit but having its own custom mods is the ViperOS. You might not have heard of its name, considering its a rather new project, having surfaced around the launch of Android Nougat 7.1 only. Despite being a relatively new project, the ROM has quickly evolved into becoming a very stable and reliable ROM and gives plenty of other competitors a run for their money. A simple and neat ROM, ViperOS does not feature multiple customizability options but instead offers a great balance between battery and performance. The ROM recently even updated their source code for the latest in Android, that is, Android Oreo 8.0. Personally, I feel ViperOS is a near perfect mixture of stock ROM with several customizability features and amazing battery life. Since it is a growing project, it doesn’t have a long list of supported devices, yet, but is soon expected to grow to support all the major devices, with support for Android Oreo 8.0 already been announced.
10. FlymeOS
Okay, so if you’re located just about anywhere outside of China, chances are that you haven’t heard of FlymeOS. Well, FlymeOS is the official OS that powers up Meizu’s range of devices, and it does it amazingly. Originally developed by and for Meizu, the custom ROM project has since then been ported to support other OEM devices as well. FlymeOS stands as a direct competitor to MIUI, having more or less the same interface, combined with a great mixture of colors and details. Some unique features of FlymeOS include an in-built Toolbox that offers a compass, a leveler, a ruler, and toggles for various Android settings right from the corner of your screen. Then, it features its own Security Center as well as support for FlymeOS themes. Lastly, the ROM also comes with mBack key and gestures, that allow you to navigate through the entire UI using just the home key and a couple of gestures. If you’re bored of the stock Android look and MIUI looks a little too cliche for you, FlymeOS might just be what you’re looking for. While Flyme officially supports Android Marshmallow, with its beta announced for Nougat just a couple of weeks ago, the ROM’s features more than makeup for the slow development.
Thanks for voting!
DU, AOSPA and Pure Nexus...aint coming officially for sure....other will definitly
and wrong sub forum for post
LineageOS.
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Viper os
Slim ROM!
why you even started this thread @ap6709
LOS is a must for me
RR, AOSPE
I voted LOS because that is the one that I used the most. I haven't used Slim or AOSP extended. Are they open source and not based on LOS?
So if I don't flash GAPPS there is no proprietary code?
Lineage OS
Resurrection remix , AOSPE.
methuselah said:
why you even started this thread @ap6709
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Just to get a public opinion on the most sought after custom ROMs and also to make the custom ROM developers aware of the demand. That is all. Am I doing something wrong? Please tell frankly.
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What is the code name of this device?
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What is the code name of this device?
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AFAIk Vassace
Nitrogen os
I don't know why this thread is made....but it should be removed.
It all depends on developers whether and which rom they will build. @MikeChannon please look after this and close this thread
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Aosp extended, Resurrection remix ?
A couple of days back, a dev made Project Treble possible in a RN4 by using the MIUI partition for device and component firmware as required for Treble. I personally don't own a RN4 so didn't get to test it, neither am I am following that thread. But if it's possible to do so, then the ROMs with 8.1 and above should be a lot more stable ( talking about you RR ) . And if I'm not mistaken many devs already know about this and some devs of RN4 we'll move into RN5P. So as for custom ROMs are concerned, let's wait it out. The devs understand the device a lot better than us end users. Let the devs figure out a standard for the OS/ROMs. Till then MIUI isn't bad. Personally I dislike the bloat and lack of an App Drawer, contradicts the minimal approach which I prefer. But that's just me, but I think in general is not unusable.
The phone was up for sale first time 2 days ago and so I think instead of drooling for ROMs, give the devs their own time. They are doing it for free for us. Let's respect that and not be greedy.
Nitrogen os
Loving in kenzo now i want on rn5 pro

Most Privacy oriented Custom Rom

I got a good Custom rom overview from this post, especially the google spreadsheet: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/custom-rom-t3867290
I looked into a coupe of those, and found some questioable features. For example: Havoc OS lists something like wather info on lock screen. This made me think about where this functionality would get the telemetry for my location.
TLDR; Are there any Custom Roms that are especially focused on user privacy or with this concern at least in mind?
In general I know about the custom rom Replicant but they only support very old smartphones. I decided that the Oneplus 6 is the perfect phone for me I also want to find the perfect custom rom.
If searched on google and the only the other os showing up is lineage. Other than beeing open source what would be the difference to lets say aosp extended regarding special features and privacy?
I won't be using gapp and i am still thinking about microg. Since Google is such a great company I wont get notifications without going though their ****ing gcm unless sacrificing significant battery life (more info: https://www.reddit.com/r/fossdroid/comments/9ayrgc/privacy_on_gcm_microg/ ).
Hi, I think when it comes to privacy, regular custom ROMs have little impact. As long as you're not using OOS or a port (like MIUI), all ROMs should be pretty good, as long as you don't install gapps.
Lineage has a good reputation, it's well known and they made a lot of basic apps so you don't need to rely on others (they're often based on older AOSP apps). LOS also comes with Privacy Guard, which is similar to the default Android permissions manager, but with a few extra options, including a very basic firewall. If you want to use microG, you have to go for a special edition that you can find here: https://lineage.microg.org/
But other ROMs are fine as long as you have the proper apps installed and a proper setup overall. You can check my thread which is related to microG but also privacy: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/guide-microg-oneplus-6-source-ligthway-t3874469/
Depending on your current knowledge, it's mostly a lot of reading about what apps you can use, what browser you should use, what firewall, what ad/tracker blocker, etc.
If you're on telegram, I'd recommend you join @nogoolag , it's full of useful notes about what apps to use, what settings are ideal, infos related to VPNs, etc.
EDIT: about weather in custom ROMs: you can usually very easily disable the service or even remove the related APKs, so it shouldn't be a criteria imo.
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Thank you very much for you awesome reply. Your thread about microg helped me a lot. I will follow your guide there.

Dumb Android Version

I'm posting here because I can't post at the development forum.
With the advent of cellphone addiction, the market for dumbphones has increased. People looking for ways to end their addiction to social media and gaming are supporting projects like Light Phone and Mudita Pure.
Unfortunately, these devices are pricy due to the relatively low demand and the fact that they are not produced in China.
I believe that there's a big opportunity for those developers looking forward to starting something new, like creating a "Dumb" Android version with less complexity, that would have only basic and productivity features such as:
Call, SMS, flashlight, camera, calculator, shopping list (todo list), hotspot only (no mobile data or wifi on the phone), music player.
Must not have: playstore, browser
Name suggestions: DumbDroid, AA, Antidote
I hope someone reads this and brings this idea to life.
Thanks :fingers-crossed:
@tijuco2
You are confusing Android OS - including device drivers - and applications, IMHO.
And, it's on the user to decide what applications lastly are installed ( used ) on an Android device.
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@tijuco2
You are confusing Android OS - including device drivers - and applications, IMHO.
And, it's on the user to decide what applications lastly are installed ( used ) on an Android device.
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I'm not a developer. I know what the demand is, not how to achieve what I suggested. I'm talking about addiction when the user lost the ability to control their impulse.

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