I had to leave this set of threads related to WP7 upgrade to Mango 7.5 specifically on the HTC HD2, in order to work on a set of minor issues that came up with the new release of Android's Tabooany 2.2. Now that we're done with that, I've returned to the the HTC HD2 upgrade to Mango 7.5 (2270). Apparently in the 3 weeks I was away from this issues a lot has been happening. Specifically the 7.5 RTM being pushed out by some carriers. Where I left off, I was following a new post from xboxmod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236027 that used XBmod-Yuki ROM V2.00 which seem to me the way to go since it left the phone unlocked (by leaving the Chevron, root and unlock features on the phone) and ready for the Mango 7720 build. This morning, I allowed Zune to apply cab 7008 and 7392 (no-do) to the phone. My intention were to then follow up by manually installing all of the update CABs using the one shot technique to get all the way to 7720. However, I see that Zune 4.7 is now Zune 4.8 and it seems to interfere with the WP7 Update cab sender. I tried to send Build 7403 over to the phone and a series of errors popped up in the DOS windows running the sender that made no sense to me. But then Zune came up and said this upgrade is not supported on your HTC HD2 phone. So I'm pretty much stuck until I can find a way to upgrade the phones name in the registry to HTC HD7. I can't get a copy of Zune 4.7. I had a copy on my hard drive that has been magically deleted since my time away from this project. Most online version are now gone but I did eventually find one in Norway. I downloaded it and a message popped upon the D/L completing. It said the D/L contained a virus and had been deleted. My virus program (AVG 2011 Pro) didn't do that or it would be in his log and the file would be in the virus vault. BTW, I had already disable Windows Defender Service so why did this happen? After the Zune 4.7 deletion the same thing happened when I attempted to download 7720.rar from Megadownload. Windows 7 x64 said it contained a virus and deleted it and pointed me to a Microsoft generic message about viruses. Again no message in the system logs or the virus protection logs although I had disabled AVG as well by now. Anyway, I somewhat regress, but anyone who has experienced this type of behavior in the past few day please let me know. My main issue right now is that I need to get the phone friendly id in the registry changed. I've used the WP7 developer Toolkit to push the Advanced Registry XDA to the phone and attempted to change the phones model number but as soon as I attempt to write it back, the phone vibrates and reboots over and over again. I've now flashed back to no-do with build 7392 reapplied by Zune 4.8. It would appear I'm not going anywhere until I get that phone model upgraded in the registry. I have read a post on this forum which I can't located right now on using HTC-ProvXML-Deploy.XAP to make changes to the registry but it totally lost me when it said to created a text file with the registry keys and changes that I wanted applied, which I did. But then when it had me to run the text file renamed to xxx.rgu through ProvXML program and extract the XAP file then rename it to CustClear.provxml and then insert it into the extracted HTC-ProvXML-Deploy0.0.1.XAP file, I was totally lost. How do you insert anything into an XAP file without recompiling it in VS2010 assuming you had the source. Any advice from anyone on any or all of these issues would be greatly appreciated. Folks without your help I'm stuck on Windows 7 Phone. Please help. Thanks!
You can open an xap with winrar.
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Humm, that's interesting let me see what I can do with that. I'm not quite sure of the implication of your statement but I need to go back and look at the notes on this and maybe it will start to make sense now. Thanks for your help buddy. I assume this is unique to Winrar. I'll let you know the the outcome by posting back to this thread.
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Just got my Samsung Focus S, and I'm trying to get as much data as I can from my old Samsung Focus over to the new phone. What's the best way of doing this?
image the phone to the sdcard and then change the car.... oh wait.... wp7.... nevermind
that was fun
Bottom line, you can't get there from here.
Anything that has been copied to your PC through Zune (photos, videos, music) can be copied back to your new phone. Also, anything that is already stored in the cloud will still be available. But anything that is solely on your phone (app/game settings & saves, SMS messages, documents created by apps that don't support cloud storage, etc), will be permanently lost.
Microsoft does not provide (or even allow for) any mechanism to make a transferable backup of your device.
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image the phone to the sdcard and then change the car.... oh wait.... wp7.... nevermind
that was fun
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yea that was productive...NOT!!! go somewhere. Anyway u can't make a backup of one device and transfer it to another but u can reinstall all ur apps from the web marketplace and resync all media once reconnected to Zune. Text messages and game saves will be gone unless the games get updated for cloud saves.
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any chance of using that custom backup tool and then forcing a restore backup? I know the backups that Zune makes before an update store everything (sms, apps, contacts)
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any chance of using that custom backup tool and then forcing a restore backup? I know the backups that Zune makes before an update store everything (sms, apps, contacts)
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The backup is just like a Image backup in your Windows, which means any changes after the backup is voided if you restore.
What we want is, a working backup that can backup our precious data like SMS, apps data, etc... so that we can quickly restore it after we reseted our phone or switching to a new phone...
Cheers~
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The backup is just like a Image backup in your Windows, which means any changes after the backup is voided if you restore.
What we want is, a working backup that can backup our precious data like SMS, apps data, etc... so that we can quickly restore it after we reseted our phone or switching to a new phone...
Cheers~
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No but that's what I'm getting at. If this guy has a new phone, in theory, he'd just have to load the image of backup over the new phone's OS. Unless, Windows Phone freaks out over hardware changes like Windows does
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No but that's what I'm getting at. If this guy has a new phone, in theory, he'd just have to load the image of backup over the new phone's OS. Unless, Windows Phone freaks out over hardware changes like Windows does
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To further your knowledge, each backup are encrypted and unique to each phone by reading the device ID and which only restorable to that specific device.
Yeah, means if you switch to new phone, your old phone backup cannot transfer to the new phone
JustinTV773 said:
yea that was productive...NOT!!! go somewhere. Anyway u can't make a backup of one device and transfer it to another but u can reinstall all ur apps from the web marketplace and resync all media once reconnected to Zune. Text messages and game saves will be gone unless the games get updated for cloud saves.
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you're taking a loyalty to a phone far too seriously here mate.
wp7 could benefit from real, full os imaging, just like -any- digital device that reads/writes zeros and ones could.
imaging a device has aboslutely zero security risk, to the owner, developer of applications, or to the market (hardware) place. the unique device ID (hardware) is enough to ensure software piracy is kept at bay.
its a huge plus to the consumer:
at 3am the phone automagically images it's entire self to microSD, and deletes the oldest past 3 backups, saving two.
sms, gamesaves, offline documents, offline settings, CALL LOGS, and system updates are all in a safe, convenient place.
then just mount the microSD to your computer and copy over the phone images to your computer or encrypt and upload to a secure server.
this means destroying a phone is only a hardware loss. within 10 minutes of recieving a new piece of hardware the entire phone could be as it was before whatever damaged the previous.
how people see this as something that isn't needed is beyond me.
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To further your knowledge, each backup are encrypted and unique to each phone by reading the device ID and which only restorable to that specific device.
Yeah, means if you switch to new phone, your old phone backup cannot transfer to the new phone
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Ah gotcha. Didn't know that.
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you're taking a loyalty to a phone far too seriously here mate.
wp7 could benefit from real, full os imaging, just like -any- digital device that reads/writes zeros and ones could.
imaging a device has aboslutely zero security risk, to the owner, developer of applications, or to the market (hardware) place. the unique device ID (hardware) is enough to ensure software piracy is kept at bay.
its a huge plus to the consumer:
at 3am the phone automagically images it's entire self to microSD, and deletes the oldest past 3 backups, saving two.
sms, gamesaves, offline documents, offline settings, CALL LOGS, and system updates are all in a safe, convenient place.
then just mount the microSD to your computer and copy over the phone images to your computer or encrypt and upload to a secure server.
this means destroying a phone is only a hardware loss. within 10 minutes of recieving a new piece of hardware the entire phone could be as it was before whatever damaged the previous.
how people see this as something that isn't needed is beyond me.
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I totally agree. I love wp7 and will fight its corner against anything to anyone however if something is missing and needed its still missing and needed! This is one of them things just like vpn. I am 4 days from upgrading to the lumia 800 and i hate the fact i will lose all my game saves esp as some are working towards xbox live points. As i said you cant pretend something isnt needed just because its not there, this is a real shame. To me though it is like loveing my son but i do hate it when he screams at me cos i didnt give him my malteasers. Dont mean i love him any less but i would hope they sort it out. Or ay least give me some malteasers.
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Ah gotcha. Didn't know that.
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Glad that I can help.
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how people see this as something that isn't needed is beyond me.
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The most we can do at this point is VOTE UP that feature in the windows phone feature suggestion page and MAYBE microsoft will implement it. That feature has a ****load of votes, cannot remember link. The idea is quite good.
The reason the dude commented on your post was because your initial post did absolutely NOTHING to help the OP, it only satisfied your urge to bash the platform :-/
Very unproductive.
so no way to restore from old phone ..............hmmmmm
What if Microsoft made a feature like the ones found in Windows, the Easy Transfer wizard? They could whip up a feature in Windows Phone settings as "Easy Transfer" and let the user choose how they will transfer the files and settings (wallpaper, sms, system settings, as in ALL including synced emails) from the old phone to the new one, either wifi, or at least bluetooth. EVERYBODEH HAPPEH
I wrote a data backup app for HTC phones a while ago, but nothing for Samsung yet because Heathcliff74 hasn't released a tool for getting filesystem access (like his WP7 Root Tools app does) to other devs yet. No guarantee it'd be immediatley usable anyhow though, since the Focus S seems to use different high-privilege DLLs than the first-gen phones so all our current high-privilege apps (registry editing and provxml and all) don't work yet.
just found a way to get my apps back on my Focus S
Its not quite the end all fix,
but I just bought a focus S and wanted to transfer my apps from my old focus, of course the marketplace doesn't show that I own those apps on my new phone and there's no way to transfer them in Zune, but you can do it through the windowsphone site.
if you log into your windowsLive ID at WindowsPhone.com theres an option to reinstall apps from your purchase history. you just select the phone you want to transfer to, and then you select the app or game and then it sends you a text message to reinstall the app.
its not the greatest way, but atleast you dont have to buy all the stuff over again
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Its not quite the end all fix,
but I just bought a focus S and wanted to transfer my apps from my old focus, of course the marketplace doesn't show that I own those apps on my new phone and there's no way to transfer them in Zune, but you can do it through the windowsphone site.
if you log into your windowsLive ID at WindowsPhone.com theres an option to reinstall apps from your purchase history. you just select the phone you want to transfer to, and then you select the app or game and then it sends you a text message to reinstall the app.
its not the greatest way, but atleast you dont have to buy all the stuff over again
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Attempting to repurchase an app will simply tell you you've purchased it before and install it for free. So the market doesn't tell you what you've bought before, but there's no risk of repurchasing either.
My old HD7 screen cracked and rather than replacing it, I found a used HD7 at the same cost (little lower) than a new screen. I've already backed up my Old HD7 can I just do a restore on the New HD7 or can I swap microSD cards putting the old one into the new device, will it work? Or are the backups and microSD coded to a serial number on the device itself?
Unfortunately, it is not possible two use a backup from another device (as far as I know ). You can probably use the sdcard but all data will be lost...
However, you don't have to buy all apps again and Windows Live will resotre your contacts, appointements
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Unfortunately, it is not possible two use a backup from another device (as far as I know ). You can probably use the sdcard but all data will be lost...
However, you don't have to buy all apps again and Windows Live will resotre your contacts, appointements
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I was trying to save my sms, settings, and data that is not restore-able via live.
Search for wp7 app backup for some programs that may help you.
I just ment that you'll lose not everything. Note that by now there is no official way to backup 3rd party data and you probably need a custom rom wich is unlocked (maybe even full unlock)
Hello,
I currently own a LG E900 and just recently I noticed a little scratch on the display. I know this is gorilla glass and it worked really great for more than a year and I don't even know how the scratch got there, but I thought that it might be time to upgrade.
I know that most stuff is synced using Windows Live but there are still a couple of things where I am not sure:
1. What about contacts where I linked their Facebook, Twitter and Windows Live profiles? If they do not have the same name in Facebook and Windows Live, will their linking be preserved?
2. Is it possible to transfer stored data from apps and games? I mostly care about my saved progress from e.g. angry birds, can you transfer that without being banned or so from Xbox Live for cheating?
3. Zune creates full backups and I guess this would be the best you can get, but can you restore them onto another device (I am considering buying either another LG E900 or a HTC Titan 2, but this thread should not be about which phone to chose right now) or is this somehow tied to the IMIE?
All of your contacts are synced from their various accounts. None are currently stored on the phone. Your linked contacts will link if the names are the same. If names differ, you'll have to relink as necessary.
Game and application data cannot be transferred to the new phone unless said game/app offers a cloud backup option. XBoxLive games will remember scores, but I'm not sure about progress.
To my knowledge, a backup can only be restored to the phone it was made from. This means you can't even get the same model and restore from a different backup. Sucky, I know.
That is correct. Manually (using an app like Root Webserver or WPDM), you could back up your Angry Birds isolated storage folder and then restore it on the new phone (if you get another phone that you can achieve at least root-unlock with). I don't believe you're at risk of getting flagged for cheating unless you try to *edit* those game files.
That sound interesting.
Is root-unlock the same as interop-unlock?
No. Interop-unlock can allow apps to gain additional privileges, possibly including TCB privileges ("root" if it were a Unix-like OS; this is what's meant by "root unlock"). However, by default interop-unlock does not grant those permissions.
Root unlock is most commonly gained through either using interop-unlock on a supported device to then install WP7 Root Tools, or by using a full-unlocked custom ROM (full-unlock includes root-unlock).
Thanks, I guess I will be able to figure out the rest on my own since interop-unlock seems to be prettt easy on LG devices.
Just to be sure, if I copy the Isolated Storage from a game to my PC and back onto a different phone, that will still work?
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(I am considering buying either another LG E900 or a HTC Titan 2, but this thread should not be about which phone to chose right now) or is this somehow tied to the IMIE?
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Angry Birds does not seem to require phone or owner identity privileges, so I doubt it is.
Also, keep in mind that the Titan II has no unlock at all yet - you couldn't get your files back on it then.
I've just put a custom ROM on my Omnia 7 and I'm very pleased with it.
But I left some stuff back on my old installation, which I backed-up fully before I updated (using Windows Phone Back-up Tool 1.9). I'm sure I've read that there are complexities when working with back-ups and custom ROMS.
What I'd like to do is get my photos and videos off the old install, as well as my old non-syncable OneNote notebook.
Can anyone advise? I don't suppose I can load the backed-up image into a virtual machine somehow?
Thanks
Backups are device-specific; you can't even restore one to another device of the same model. Why you would re-imag eyour phone without first syncing off pictures and such, I really don't know, but if you did and you want to access them, the only way to do so is to restore that backup to the device it was made from. People have been trying to crack the backup files for about as long as the OS has existed. We may succeed some day, but this is probably not that day.
So moreover, can I use Zune to back-up the phone as it is now (with a custom ROM on it, identifying it as a Nokia even though it's not)? I'm after a way to jump between the two images really, as I still don't know how to get the local OneNote data but I want to keep using 7.8 for a bit to test it out.
Thanks