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Is it worth it?

I use the free version and swear by it. I have exceptional battery life when using Juice defender. I have gone 16/17 hours before without needing to charge with moderate phone use. The only difference between the free and the charge version is that on the pay version you can create your own profiles. I just use the standard profile and it is awesome. Download the free version and give it a try.

Totally worth it.
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thanks, I'll ive t a try. I read some palces it does mroe harm than good

How does turning the data off, then turning it on every 15 minutes do more harm than good?
I use it if I'm in a 4G area or really trying to stretch the battery out. It does work wonders!

I use the free version and notice the gains. usually see about a twenty percent gain

Absolutely, although I have a strange issue with the service getting killed since I got the G2x, still love the app though. I have UltimateJuice btw

i bought the ultimate version and i never know how to do the settings so i ended up giving up on it.. and just manually turn wifi off and 2g on when i stop using the phone >_>

sincest said:
i bought the ultimate version and i never know how to do the settings so i ended up giving up on it.. and just manually turn wifi off and 2g on when i stop using the phone >_>
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I installed the free version and it unstablized my phone. There are some Wifi apps that will turn off your wifi, when you leave your home automatically. Search WOOFI in marketplace. Or Auto Wifi Enabler.

Ya I had issues with reboots and instability while using the free version, it would also cause GPS to shut off and I would need a reboot to get it back. Just as easy to toggle it my self.
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qinstaller said:
Ya I had issues with reboots and instability while using the free version, it would also cause GPS to shut off and I would need a reboot to get it back. Just as easy to toggle it my self.
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I uninstalled also. I was having issues receiving POP email in a timely manner. I had it set to check every half hour but sometimes four or five hours would go by then a ton of emails would flood in. I am going to spring for the next step up because you have more control over individual apps and how they connect. I will post back with results.

for those saying it works wonders are you saying this as someone who keeps wifi and gps on all the time? wifi crunches the battery so if all this does is periodically turn it on and off it's not going to do much for me. i only turn it on when i need it.

Android OS eating battery?

Is android OS destroying anyone else's battery? Its using like 40% for me. Anyone else? Any fix?
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JPOKeefe said:
Is android OS destroying anyone else's battery? Its using like 40% for me. Anyone else? Any fix?
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No, i'm at 6%.
something you are running is causing the activity to spike.

Percentages like this are meaningless without something to compare it to. 40% isn't unheard of if you never use the phone, for instance.

I was having this issue yesterday. I installed FAUX kernel and it went away; screen: 28%, mediaserver 16%, rocket player 13%, android os 10%. Yesterday at this time my battery meter was 40% ; today 67%.
That could be coincidence and not correlation though. If you are up for the challenge, a custom kernel could help.
However, like vincent law said, it's all relative. If android os is 40% and your battery is at 95%, that's not really so bad is it...

When android os is high... It's an app keeping your phone awake 90% of the time
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JPOKeefe said:
Is android OS destroying anyone else's battery? Its using like 40% for me. Anyone else? Any fix?
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im at 4%...... not sure whats wrong with your. im not running any custom roms either. just rooted and unlocked bootloader
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Reboot when you see this happening.
I've seen it once before... I didn't think to check OS monitor before rebooting to see exactly which process it was though.

I have this problem. Anyone got solutions to it?

Try disabling some location features in Google now. I found the traffic cards to give big battery drains in Android OS. Or you can check which in settings - double slide down from top > location, to see which app is using the highest request. Google play service was usually high when I had huge android os drain.
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inspiron41 said:
Try disabling some location features in Google now. I found the traffic cards to give big battery drains in Android OS. Or you can check which in settings - double slide down from top > location, to see which app is using the highest request. Google play service was usually high when I had huge android os drain.
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I have also noticed that at times google play services has a huge drain on the battery. I was wondering if play store setting had anything to do with it. I have mine set to " do not automatically update".

I have both facebook and google search on low battery use. For Google location reporting, I only have location history turned on. I don't know if this helps.

I start getting the same issue since yesterday.
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I've also been experiencing the same issue. Started a few days ago. Checked tonight right before I put my phone on the charger after a full day of use, and Android OS had 9+ hours of awake time. It's driving me crazy and I can't figure out what is causing it.

I am so disappointed!!! I have the same bug. I had it on my old Phone (Samsung Galaxy S). I flashed 3 different firmwares on my i9000. Nothing helped. Now I bought the Nexus 5 and after one day it starts again
I went to bed with 97% Battery. Woke up and it looked like this:
It is stock Firmware with no changes. Maybe it is because of my google account? I am using the same google account for my nexus5 and i9000.

Check your WiFi connection. I don't really know why (yet) but sometimes, being connected to certain WiFi networks increases Android OS usage. This happens a lot in my college's network so I believe it's a problem with that, because it does not happen at my home's WiFi. You could try disabling WiFi in the different networks you use and check which is draining.
Hope this helps.
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JPOKeefe said:
Is android OS destroying anyone else's battery? Its using like 40% for me. Anyone else? Any fix?
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Yes I had this problem. I flashed factory image and enable high accuracy location AND reporting. My problem I pinpointed was Google Now NOT refreshing.
It would hang there trying to update and without location it didn't have anything to report and it would eat battery. I would force close the launcher and notice the wakelock stopped shortly, to return to Now not updating.
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I found a way to prevent the Play Services and the Android System from eating my battery.
First I noticed that it was only happening, when the location services were enabled, and then I found the App Ops App for KitKat.
All I did was disable the rights for those two Apps to use location and to keep the device awake.
I'm having the location services on - and working in 4sq, Maps, etc,.. - and no more drain.
Maybe you can verify this?

Try this
My Android OS is at 3% after 19 hours.
Google services not enough to even show.
Battery 75%.
Light use 55 minutes screen time.
Google auto sync off, i sync when i need to.
I don't let play store check for app updates .
I turn location on when i need it.
I use mostly wifi some LTE
Unchecked wifi scanning always available.
Keep wifi on during sleep
Minimize battery use when wifi is on is checked.
I refresh my email accounts when i open them so it's not being checked automatically.
No battery or services complaints (Google services is so low it doesn't even register), give it a try?

raul90 said:
Check your WiFi connection. I don't really know why (yet) but sometimes, being connected to certain WiFi networks increases Android OS usage. This happens a lot in my college's network so I believe it's a problem with that, because it does not happen at my home's WiFi. You could try disabling WiFi in the different networks you use and check which is draining.
Hope this helps.
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The problem is definitely caused by the Wifi! I am using my College-Dorm-Wifi over night. When turning it off, the battery life is normal.
But turning off the Wifi is no solution! I don't have data so I am only using my phone in college networks
There musts be another way.

legendnexus said:
I start getting the same issue since yesterday.
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Me too. I have disabled wifi when i'm out... i will check if this changes something!

Inconsistent battery fixed by reboot

I have been so impressed with the battery life on the N5 however the last 2 weeks my battery is dropping 50% in less than 4 hours. If I reboot my phone it fixes this and drops about 10% - 15% in 4 hours.
I thought it must be an app I am opening that is constantly running in the background but can't see anything obvious.
Anybody got any suggestions or advice? I have stopped almost all apps and uninstalled the majority. I don't want to restore factory defaults if I can help it.

Have you checked Gsam? Mine sometimes does that, and the culprit normally is my kernel keeping the phone awake for whatever reason, and a reboot solves it. Not sure why though
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Jinson7 said:
I have been so impressed with the battery life on the N5 however the last 2 weeks my battery is dropping 50% in less than 4 hours. If I reboot my phone it fixes this and drops about 10% - 15% in 4 hours.
I thought it must be an app I am opening that is constantly running in the background but can't see anything obvious.
Anybody got any suggestions or advice? I have stopped almost all apps and uninstalled the majority. I don't want to restore factory defaults if I can help it.
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Get betterbatterystats and see what your wake locks are.

I have gsam but not really sure what to look for?

Jinson7 said:
I have gsam but not really sure what to look for?
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I'm not familiar with that. Does it tell you what your partial and kernel wake locks are?

If you go to App Usage it will give you a breakdown of what apps are using your battery
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I have this exact same problem. I normally have to reboot my phone when I disconnect from the wireless charger. I don't think that's always the cause tho. I would love to install batterbatterystats but you need root am I'm really trying to not go down that road anymore.
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I think It's the dialer. I had this problem in 4.1.1 where it would constantly be looking at my address book in exchange.

In my case, Gsam points to the Kernel being the issue. I'm trying out a different kernel, and haven't experienced the same issue.
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Massive drain with no wake locks

Hey all
I had a wake lock trigger that was draining my battery so I decided to try and find what was causing it. I turned off all background sync and disabled GPS. I charged my phone to full and then let it drain over night. As you can see in screen shots... Massive drain occurred with no visual signs of the cause. Anyone have an idea?
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Hey all
I had a wake lock trigger that was draining my battery so I decided to try and find what was causing it. I turned off all background sync and disabled GPS. I charged my phone to full and then let it drain over night. As you can see in screen shots... Massive drain occurred with no visual signs of the cause. Anyone have an idea?
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Try to turn off wifi and see what happens

Demonic240 said:
Hey all
I had a wake lock trigger that was draining my battery so I decided to try and find what was causing it. I turned off all background sync and disabled GPS. I charged my phone to full and then let it drain over night. As you can see in screen shots... Massive drain occurred with no visual signs of the cause. Anyone have an idea?
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Did you get any shots of the Kernel Wakelocks and Partial Wakelocks screens in bbs? That's where you would see the culprit(s). Also, do you ever do soft reboots? Some people (including myself) have experienced increased battery drain with no visible wakelocks after soft rebooting. Doing a full reboot seems to fix it.
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It's definitely something using Wi-Fi. Need more in depth analysis
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Did you get any shots of the Kernel Wakelocks and Partial Wakelocks screens in bbs? That's where you would see the culprit(s). Also, do you ever do soft reboots? Some people (including myself) have experienced increased battery drain with no visible wakelocks after soft rebooting. Doing a full reboot seems to fix it.
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I checked those but there was nothing abnormal. I'd done a reboot when I flashed the kernel back to stock pa.
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rootSU said:
It's definitely something using Wi-Fi. Need more in depth analysis
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I've disabled wifi and it drained to dead. Going to recharge to full and see what it does off wi-fi. What could I do to see why/if wi-fi is killing it?

You can see it is draining it in your screen shots. Maybe you didn't fully disable the background Wi-Fi usage. "scanning always enabled" for example
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rootSU said:
You can see it is draining it in your screen shots. Maybe you didn't fully disable the background Wi-Fi usage. "scanning always enabled" for example
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That was one of the first things I disabled.

Demonic240 said:
That was one of the first things I disabled.
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Doesn't look like its disabled correctly. Your screenshot shows nearly 8 hours Wi-Fi.
Maybe there is a bug in your settings data.
Not sure if you're rooted or not but maybe a backup / wipe is the best course of action
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rootSU said:
Doesn't look like its disabled correctly. Your screenshot shows nearly 8 hours Wi-Fi.
Maybe there is a bug in your settings data.
Not sure if you're rooted or not but maybe a backup / wipe is the best course of action
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Here's the current setting. I guess I can factory reset again. I'll try that after this current charge cycle.
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You could try booting the phone into safe mode to see if it's a 3rd party app, though unnecessary if you plan on trying a full reset anyways.

Disable xposed
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Factory reset, no syncing enabled, no auto updates, google now disabled, no apps other than stock gapps installed. Still high android os usage.

Demonic240 said:
Factory reset, no syncing enabled, no auto updates, google now disabled, no apps other than stock gapps installed. Still high android os usage.
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while at first it looks high, in reality it isnt(yet). in your screenshot you have only lost 5% battery so far with light use. at this point you really cant tell what your battery will be like with use.

simms22 said:
while at first it looks high, in reality it isnt(yet). in your screenshot you have only lost 5% battery so far with light use. at this point you really cant tell what your battery will be like with use.
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How about now?

Demonic240 said:
How about now?
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ahh, thats a little better, but itll drop a little more with use. while 20 is a little high, id still classify as normal. really anything up to 20% is normal. typically, after a full cycle, i see android os between 9-15%. but it would all depend on exactly how you use your phone.

simms22 said:
ahh, thats a little better, but itll drop a little more with use. while 20 is a little high, id still classify as normal. really anything up to 20% is normal. typically, after a full cycle, i see android os between 9-15%. but it would all depend on exactly how you use your phone.
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Right now.. I'm not doing anything other than replying to this thread.

Demonic240 said:
Right now.. I'm not doing anything other than replying to this thread.
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i see that chrome(and chrome sandbox) is taking a huge amount of battery for very little use. 21% together, just to respond to xda..

Install system monitor from play store and check CPU freq and number of CPU's online while screen on.
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As said above....use the phone normally and check when its almost drained. It will surely be much lower.
If location is on...it will probably be higher than 10% I'd guess. If so....completely normal.

battery life is horrible, what can I do? (stats included)

I have 2 hours of SOT! Why? I use a a stock 5.0.1, rooted with latest ElementalX. Greenified all apps except of the ones I need notifications from, gps is off, auto brightness and I can't get a decent battery life? Why?

I know people like GSam, but could we get a BBS log please?

I dont have that, but I will install it now. For now, please help me with what I have

Bei60 said:
I dont have that, but I will install it now. For now, please help me with what I have
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I can't do much with what you have. That's why I requested you provide a BBS log.
I can tell you that you need to go into Developer Options and disable NuPlayer (and reboot). That's (one of) the culprits of crazy battery drain in 5.0. I don't use ElementalX, so I can't say if it's default settings are contributing to your problems or not. You may want to roll with stock until this issue is fixed?

I recommend for now turning off NFC and turning location off or setting to GPS only. Working pretty good on CM12.
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This is what I got today, sorry that its not a full day, also I changed my jernel to franco r70.

Bei60 said:
This is what I got today, sorry that its not a full day, also I changed my jernel to franco r70.
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It's kinda hard to see anything out of the ordinary. Have you tried different ROMs?
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Chrome eats battery. I would get a different browser like Naked Browser.
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Getxrealx said:
It's kinda hard to see anything out of the ordinary. Have you tried different ROMs?
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I don't see anything too out of the ordinary. Have you disabled NuPlayer and changed location mode to Device only?

Please use the "Battery Life Help" thread convienently stuck at the top of this section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/battery-life-help-troubleshoot-battery-t2785128
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