Thought this thread would be useful for users to discuss their next phone as this device is now 2 years old. Also for former users to share their experience with their new device and how it compares to the One S. Or even users looking for a cheap second hand phone and wondering how this compares to the current phones.
I'm currently in two minds whether to get the M8 when it comes out in black or hold on for the M9 and hope that they get rid of that big ugly HTC bar and reduce the size of the phone overall. What is everyone else looking at?
rosswhite said:
Thought this thread would be useful for users to discuss their next phone as this device is now 2 years old. Also for former users to share their experience with their new device and how it compares to the One S. Or even users looking for a cheap second hand phone and wondering how this compares to the current phones.
I'm currently in two minds whether to get the M8 when it comes out in black or hold on for the M9 and hope that they get rid of that big ugly HTC bar and reduce the size of the phone overall. What is everyone else looking at?
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It depends if you are patient enough, personally I like the Gun Metal Grey version of the M8. My HTC One S is pretty much dead with a broken power button, broken micro USB port and a smashed screen. I have applied for the One Plus Smash so if I get selected I will send you an invite if you are interested
I think this thread is a good idea. Many people in the development section talk about moving on to another phone. I can now include myself in this category as I have a Nexus 5 coming in the mail probably Thursday or Friday of this week. After I get it, I'm going to do a clean flash of the latest CM11 nightly on my One S, set it up as normal and keep it as a second device if anything were to happen to my N5. I'm just sick of the constant, little stability issues that this phone seems to have. It'll be nice to have a phone that has a much larger development community. I'm not sure if I'll use a custom ROM on my N5 yet, but if I do I know that I have many official options as opposed to buggy, unofficial ports made by unknown devs.
Get the M8, it's a great phone.
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Darknites said:
Get the M8, it's a great phone.
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One thing that has always confused me, if you put the GP software on it, does it make the camera worse without the sense software?
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One thing that has always confused me, if you put the GP software on it, does it make the camera worse without the sense software?
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Not tried it, I use insertcoin rom but I believe it only missing some stuff you most likely don't use but the depth camera still works just need to download gallery from the store to play with them type of pictures.
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rosswhite said:
Thought this thread would be useful for users to discuss their next phone as this device is now 2 years old. Also for former users to share their experience with their new device and how it compares to the One S. Or even users looking for a cheap second hand phone and wondering how this compares to the current phones.
I'm currently in two minds whether to get the M8 when it comes out in black or hold on for the M9 and hope that they get rid of that big ugly HTC bar and reduce the size of the phone overall. What is everyone else looking at?
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I wait for M8 Mini. Want to know the size of Mini (screen is 4.5" but want to know the "total" size). I like HTC One S, size is perfect and the aluminum makes it perfect. I will never buy iPhone or Samsung. So what is left, Jolla or Huawei or Sony.
So I decide to wait for M8 Mini. And keep my ONE S because of good dev's on this site makes ONE S live longer with great modified OS.
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I wait for M8 Mini. Want to know the size of Mini (screen is 4.5" but want to know the "total" size). I like HTC One S, size is perfect and the aluminum makes it perfect. I will never buy iPhone or Samsung. So what is left, Jolla or Huawei or Sony.
So I decide to wait for M8 Mini. And keep my ONE S because of good dev's on this site makes ONE S live longer with great modified OS.
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Yeah the M8 Mini will no doubt be a great phone also. Really interested to see what camera they put in it, ultra pixel or hopefully a regular 8/12mp shooter.
Darknites said:
Not tried it, I use insertcoin rom but I believe it only missing some stuff you most likely don't use but the depth camera still works just need to download gallery from the store to play with them type of pictures.
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Sorry, I forgot to ask before, how has your battery life been on the M8? All the reviews I've seen have said its very very good.
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Sorry, I forgot to ask before, how has your battery life been on the M8? All the reviews I've seen have said its very very good.
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I had 2 days with over 5 hours on screen time.
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Yeah the M8 Mini will no doubt be a great phone also. Really interested to see what camera they put in it, ultra pixel or hopefully a regular 8/12mp shooter.
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It looks like M8 mini will come with 13M f/2.2 camera, same with Desire 816. It is very hard to get a phone to replace One S because there is little to none small size flagship nowadays. Only Iphone 5s, One Mini, Sony Z1 Compact and the upcoming Galaxy S5 mini, M8 Mini and Sony Japan A2 SO-04F(Z2 Compact).
http://www.ringhk.com/news2.php?id=8515
Here is the original camera samples from Desire 816. The quality is very good and better than(not to the level of out-performed) One S but still no 4K recording(S4 400 doesn't support it) and 1GB ram. I'll definitely look for M8 mini but really not sure if I will buy it.
Galaxy S5 Mini is also not bad though. With 4.5" 720P AMOLED, S4 400 quadcore, 1.5GB ram, IP67 water resistant. Rumor said the camera remains at 8M but not sure about the quality, no official information yet.
Z2 Campact will upgrade to S801, 3G ram. Yet again we don't know if it supports 4K recording at the moment, if it gets the 4K I'll definitely give it a look.
If you worried about size here the difference in cases, best thing I can come up with since I don't have it any more.
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It looks like M8 mini will come with 13M f/2.2 camera, same with Desire 816. It is very hard to get a phone to replace One S because there is little to none small size flagship nowadays. Only Iphone 5s, One Mini, Sony Z1 Compact and the upcoming Galaxy S5 mini, M8 Mini and Sony Japan A2 SO-04F(Z2 Compact).
http://www.ringhk.com/news2.php?id=8515
Here is the original camera samples from Desire 816. The quality is very good and better than(not to the level of out-performed) One S but still no 4K recording(S4 400 doesn't support it) and 1GB ram. I'll definitely look for M8 mini but really not sure if I will buy it.
Galaxy S5 Mini is also not bad though. With 4.5" 720P AMOLED, S4 400 quadcore, 1.5GB ram, IP67 water resistant. Rumor said the camera remains at 8M but not sure about the quality, no official information yet.
Z2 Campact will upgrade to S801, 3G ram. Yet again we don't know if it supports 4K recording at the moment, if it gets the 4K I'll definitely give it a look.
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This is what I found today.
The One Mini 2 is rumored to sport a quad-core Snapdragon 400 chipset, 4.5-inch HD (1280 x 720) display, 1 GB RAM, 16 GB internal storage, 13 MP rear and 5 MP front cameras, Android 4.4.2 KitKat and Sense 6.0 UI.
I personally thing I gonna wait until the Nexus 6 is released...
And the One S still not too bad today, so why not keeping it few months more. We had great Rom so far!
And the Nexus 6 will rock I guess!
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I personally thing I gonna wait until the Nexus 6 is released...
And the One S still not too bad today, so why not keeping it few months more. We had great Rom so far!
And the Nexus 6 will rock I guess!
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For me my contract was up and was a good deal going at the time which made it free for a cheap ish contract.
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This is what I found today.
The One Mini 2 is rumored to sport a quad-core Snapdragon 400 chipset, 4.5-inch HD (1280 x 720) display, 1 GB RAM, 16 GB internal storage, 13 MP rear and 5 MP front cameras, Android 4.4.2 KitKat and Sense 6.0 UI.
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The problem is that now XDA only doing camera mod on Galaxy/Note and LG G2, all mod developer been moved to there. You found zero mod again on HTC M7/M8 or even Sony Z1/Z2.
So, it is possible that we won't have cam mod on One Mini 2. If the camera without quality mod, the quality won't be big over One S with modded, it still performed somewhat better(according to many...actually not many... samples on Internet) but not to a large margin and hence, upgrade may not necessary though the focus speed should be improved because of newer Imagechip. I will still put Mini 2 on my waiting list but not sure if I will get it.
Because now if we all don't have cam mod on Mini2/S5 Mini/Z2c. It turns out to be Sony A2(Japanese model name of Z2 Compact) got the best result but the most expensive one. But in my opinion, it is also believable that Mini 2 won't be too cheap either, remember it is a full metal body, it may ended up only a bit cheaper than A2 which made it doesn't that worth the money(if you very like metal then you are good to go but on a mid-end device, price/performance ratio is more important to me). Pay more to get A2 may actually a more smart decision.
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I personally thing I gonna wait until the Nexus 6 is released...
And the One S still not too bad today, so why not keeping it few months more. We had great Rom so far!
And the Nexus 6 will rock I guess!
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As long as One S still keeping us busy, I think we "still have time" to wait for better phone. Unlike some other phones who totally have been stopped the development, we are not yet in a hurry to force to upgrade.
We now have a workable(not perfect) 4.3 Sense rom as a daily driver and after One Mini 4.4.2 Sense6.0 out next month, we'll have a port from it and enough to give us more busying time in the second half of this year because this is a major upgrade.
So, the development will just continue in this year but I've to admit the life cycle might be finally reached the end in 2015 but it won't be in this year. If One Mini continue to receive updates in the future like 4.5 or even 5.0, we are possible to have some new development again in 2015 if lovely devs still around here.
I'm not sure when will I upgrade my phone. I don't like big phone so that's not many options available to me. At this time, I believe I'll simply just use One S til early 2015. If no more great small android phone out in the market, I may actually switch to Iphone6.
http://86digi.com/2578.html
The newly leaked information revealed the super slim design.
Personaly I think that only downside of One S is update break...phone has thin aluminium unibody,solid camera and display even for now day phones with some lower CPu for this days. My next choice probably will not be HTC couse thay overprice there top phones like samsuns S series...I probably buy some cheaper phone with top specs but with not so good case like G2 or Nexus 5 or just wait G3 to came out if there price will be like G2.
Oh I forgetten new company phone One Plus One...phone with CM11 and top specs like M8 but half price, I think it will be my phone if came to my country.
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I bought the HTC One S two years ago and all I can say is that it is by far the most perfect phone I've owned. I'm using the Xperia Z1 now as I got it through the contract. Comparing these two phone the only thing that the Z1 has over the One S is the 20 MP camera. The display isn't that good although it has a 1080p display but colors are washed out and viewing angles are very poor whereas the One S has very good viewing angles and beautiful colors and the resolution isn't bad at all as the texts are sharp enough. Even the battery life is equl on both phones although the One S has a much smaller 1650mAh unit (two years old) compared to the 3000mAh in the Z1. As for the speed and performance they are both on the same level again. Only when playing graphic intensive games a difference can be seen but running programs and opening apps happens on the One S as fast as on the Z1. So overall I haven't noticed big differences between the two phones and I didn't expect such as the One S already great hardware even in 2014.
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Personaly I think that only downside of One S is update break...phone has thin aluminium unibody,solid camera and display even for now day phones with some lower CPu for this days. My next choice probably will not be HTC couse thay overprice there top phones like samsuns S series...I probably buy some cheaper phone with top specs but with not so good case like G2 or Nexus 5 or just wait G3 to came out if there price will be like G2.
Oh I forgetten new company phone One Plus One...phone with CM11 and top specs like M8 but half price, I think it will be my phone if came to my country.
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There is a M8 Ace coming out to solve the HTC over pricing problem. All nearly same hardware with M8(5" 1080P, Duo Camera, S801, 2G ram) but with plastic body this time, no metal. The price is around 3000RMB which equals to US$480.
The mass production of One Plus One is like kidding in China and Hong Kong regional. You hardly to get one since they only produce very small units.
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I bought the HTC One S two years ago and all I can say is that it is by far the most perfect phone I've owned. I'm using the Xperia Z1 now as I got it through the contract. Comparing these two phone the only thing that the Z1 has over the One S is the 20 MP camera. The display isn't that good although it has a 1080p display but colors are washed out and viewing angles are very poor whereas the One S has very good viewing angles and beautiful colors and the resolution isn't bad at all as the texts are sharp enough. Even the battery life is equl on both phones although the One S has a much smaller 1650mAh unit (two years old) compared to the 3000mAh in the Z1. As for the speed and performance they are both on the same level again. Only when playing graphic intensive games a difference can be seen but running programs and opening apps happens on the One S as fast as on the Z1. So overall I haven't noticed big differences between the two phones and I didn't expect such as the One S already great hardware even in 2014.
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It is not surprised because Z1 is more likely an engineering sample, Z2 is much more mature in every very aspects.
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Hey guys, I'm getting a new phone in August when my contract dies. My current phone is a stock Nexus S running Jellybean. I'm trying to decide between getting the HTC One S, or the Samsung Galaxy S III. Both are priced at $400 on a 2-year contract with Virgin mobile, and I'm completely stuck on making my decision. With the One S, have any of you had considerable problems or issues with it? Would you get an SIII if you could? I believe that each of these phones are evenly matched, and each have their strengths and their weaknesses. I'm a fan of HTC Sense 4.0, and i like the overall build quality of the One S, but the S III has more ram, a removable battery and expandable memory. The HTC One X is not available with Virgin mobile, so I cannot get the HTC equivalent of the S III. Which would you recommend?
Thanks
Well. That depends. If you love trying new ROMs/kernels on your device, the s3 is going to be better in the long run. Not that the one s lacks a healthy dev community. We have many great devs with awesome Roms but the s3 has more people on board.
On the other hand, I found the one s more stylish and I like Sense 4 better.
Personally, I have no issues with my One S and with HTC promising a JB update, we know that, hopefully, all software related issues will be squished. You could look around for some common issues but nothing serious IMO but YMMV.
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Get he gs 3 and the free 50gbs of storage on dropbox. Return it and be happier with the one s and get another 25gbs of drop box for free. And keep the one s with 75gbs of storage space
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Get he gs 3 and the free 50gbs of storage on dropbox. Return it and be happier with the one s and get another 25gbs of drop box for free. And keep the one s with 75gbs of storage space
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I only get 2gb
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I only get 2gb
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then you prolly didnt complete the steps to get the 25 gb. you should have gotten an email when you registered for DB or signed in which told you how to get the 25 gb.
as for your q, im more than happy with the one s. The screen is the perfect size whereas i believe the SG3 has a screen thats too big to be comfortable. Maybe if you have big hand its ok lol. The only drawback i suppose would be the 16 gb storage, but using DB and google play music, that isn't really an issue. in the end though, it all comes down to your choice. Both are amazing phones
HTC One S was my choice. I prefer Sense 4.0 over Samsung's skin as well as I think HTC is doing better with updates than Sammy.
davwman said:
Get he gs 3 and the free 50gbs of storage on dropbox. Return it and be happier with the one s and get another 25gbs of drop box for free. And keep the one s with 75gbs of storage space
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I like when the face matches the words.
You know it...
Thanks guys, also, how's the display on the one s? Its a pentile which means it could be a little jagged but my Nexus S has one and I really don't find it that bad.
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Display is great, obviously not as sharp as the gs 3 and x and has less screen real estate due to the 720p res that the x and gs 3 have.
I'll let anandtech finish it off
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6
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Display is great, obviously not as sharp as the gs 3 and x and has less screen real estate due to the 720p res that the x and gs 3 have.
I'll let anandtech finish it off
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/6
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The One S does not have 720 dude, it has qhd. I have owned both devices and the GS3 is miles ahead of the One S
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The One S does not have 720 dude, it has qhd. I have owned both devices and the GS3 is miles ahead of the One S
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emmm, I didn't say that the S has 720p res.
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Display is great, obviously not as sharp as the gs 3 and x and has less screen real estate due to the 720p res that the x and gs 3 have.
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And of course you would expect the display of a device that costs about £130 more to be better.
the galaxy s3 is not miles ahead of the one s. I had it. Glad I got my money back. Its nice but it is way too big and feels like a kids toy.
I found myself in same position 3 weeks ago, and I struggled for weeks researching my choices between one s and s3. All my friends got s3 so I had a good chance to try it.
Though what s3 does is impressive as far as speed and memory goes, it seriously lags in look & feel and coolness factor. It feels like lugging around a tablet than phone and it barely fits in pocket.
Compare that to one s, which I finally ended up getting which is incredibly fast, memory though less never been a hindrance. I had 10gigs available after all system programs which I believe is plentiful when added with the online storage options.
Sure s3 beats one s in all test scores but one s Screen is unbelievable, phone is sleek and stylish and you can still reach around with one hand and fits in your pocket. Camera will put your point and shoot cameras to rest and I cannot be more happy.
And battery life is great too. I got a about 12 hours on moderate use even with couple of camera flashes and I still have 20% left.
Ultimately think of the long term impacts of having a tablet for a phone for next 2 years just because it is fast and more memory, vs. having a sleek, handy pocket able phone which is still fast with decent amount of memory.
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Does Adobe Flash still work on both devices?
gs3 = hot and plastic
main reason i switched from gs2 to one s
i tried the gs3 its just gets hot when using the phone
Actually the GS 3 doesn't even beat the S in all of the benchmark tests (both the quad and S4 version), yes the res. does have an impact but then the XL has the same hardware but also 720P res. and it still beats the GS 3 in the majority of tests.
The GS 3 international version only beats both in the tests, which uses the GPU such as quadrant etc. as the GPU is far better than the adreno 225.
Only areas that the GS 3 is better is:
screen
1080P recording
storage/SD slot
removable battery
bigger developing community
Everything else is more or less same or better on the S (IMO):
- camera is more or less the same (some photos look better on the GS 3, others look better on the S), however, the UI is better than touchwiz alternative and has way more features, which are actually cool and make taking photos more enjoyable.
- Speed/smoothness is more or less the same, only reason the GS 3 appears to be smoother is due to the animations/timing that is used, could achieve the same if you flashed those animations and had the exact same timings, besides were getting JB soon hopefully so there will be virtually no difference then (on any of the phones)
- audio is more or less the same (some say the GS 3 is better, others say the S is better)
- out of the box battery life is better (to be expected considering the S has a smaller battery and is only qHD), not by a huge amount though, however, with the GS 3 you can carry spare batteries around with you
- sense V4 is far far better in looks/UI, unified feel, the stock apps are amazing such as the gallery, calendar etc. touchwiz has loads of gestures and some cool features (but the majority of these are being ported over to every other android phone, such as the smart stay feature (iseeyou, works great on my S), Svoice, smart status bar (can drag the notification bar down when in an app full screen) etc. only a matter of time till we get things that like smart alert etc. The same can't be said with sense app/features though. IMO touchwiz is too bloated and no real unified feel across the apps/menus etc. everything just looks disorganized and the colour scheme is too kiddish/cartoonish
- and lastly the build/perceived quality of the S is miles ahead of the GS 3 and IMO looks far better compared to the GS 3 (subjective the looks though)
Do you want a phone that fits in your trouser pocket?
Get the One S
Are you a basketball player with huge hands?
Get the One X or Galaxy S3
Want to watch lots of movies?
Get a tablet.
Phones are getting far too big these days. Unfortunately there are no top spec 4" phones, so I got the One S. It's still in the mail so I can't really review it further. Manufacturers really need to learn from apple here, make it pocket sized for f&# sake. Also half the market is female and even being an average size male I find the latest phones too large.
There are some things that suck on the One S though: No MicroSD , Stupid capacitive buttons, at least samsung always have one proper button, sense UI looks like tacky plastic ****.
If you do get one s make sure it's not the old snapdragon S3 SoC which has worse battery life.
I whole heartedly agree with the above. I'm 6'0 healthy 225 pounds guy that thought the beastly oversized gs3 would fit me. I was wrong. That thing is just way to big. I found one handed operations almost impossible. The display isn't that great either, not for the price. Plus I had a amoled smear that looked like a smiley face smack in the center of the screen. The one s that uses Samsung amoled displays shows no sign of such things.
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Only areas that the GS 3 is better is:
screen
1080P recording
storage/SD slot
removable battery
bigger developing community
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We have 1080p recording.
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We have 1080p recording.
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Yeah I know
But the GS 3 is far better for light metering and smoothness and slightly better quality as well.
News updated on #55
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_readying_720p_jb_m4_and_budget_ics_g2_for_spring-news-5462.php
4.3" 720P
2GB ram
1.2G S4 CPU(lol?)
16GB rom(still...)
13M cam f/2.0(same as M7)
720p front cam
LTE
1700mAH battery
Sense 5.0 on JB4.2
The CPU is same as One SV(down-clocked S4) but I doubt it very much because it would not make any existing One S customer to upgrade. So, I think the CPU should at least stay the same with One S(1.5G) or little faster(like 1.7G).
I think the LCD should change to SLCD2 this time instead of AMOLED Plus like One SV(4.3" SLCD2). I actually quite like AMOLED on phone because of perfect black but SLCD2(IPS) has better viewing experiences under sunlight which is more important to me. At the end, I don't care if it's still AMOLED or IPS, they both have pros and cons.
I have a high chance to get M4 because I don't want any size larger than 4.3". However, my One S is still lovely and used only 8 months.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-C5303-HuaShan-midranger-smiles-for-the-camera_id39165
I may wait Sony and see, they are also going to out 4.0" ~ 4.3" 720P LTE with ExmorRS, Qualcomm MSM8960T Dual 1.7GHz with Adreno 320 GPU(I think M4 will use 8960T). Model name: C5302, C5303, C5306 (Code name:HuaShan).
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4.3" 720P
2GB ram
1.2G S4 CPU(lol?)
16GB rom(still...)
The CPU is same as One SV(down-clocked S4) but I doubt it very much because it would not make any existing One S customer to upgrade. So, I think the CPU should at least stay the same with One S(1.5G) or little faster(like 1.7G).
I think the LCD should change to SLCD2 this time instead of AMOLED Plus like One SV(4.3" SLCD2). I actually quite like AMOLED on phone because of perfect black but SLCD2(IPS) has better viewing experiences under sunlight which is more important to me. At the end, I don't care if it's still AMOLED or IPS, they both have pros and cons.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-C5303-HuaShan-midranger-smiles-for-the-camera_id39165
I may wait Sony and see, they are also going to out 4.0" ~ 4.3" 720P LTE with ExmorRS, Qualcomm MSM8960T Dual 1.7GHz with Adreno 320 GPU(I think M4 will use 8960T). Model name: C5302, C5303, C5306 (Code name:HuaShan).
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Well I actually lover the cpu choice. Everything runs smooth on this cpu, and with a less heavy skinned Jb (sense 5) this will only improve. Every singel game runs brilliant. I don't think you will notice its downclocked on sense 5 and will bring a lot better battery life I gues.
The display in the one S is great. But when I hold it next to the One X or the SGIII or even the xperia T it really looks dreadfull. The colors and brightness seems fine but compared to these crisp screens it really falls out of the boat.
I'm wondering what the impact will be of a higher res lcd display on the 1.2ghz S4 though.
There are some Sony alternatives. Something I really like about those phones is the waterproof ones. But than again the Sony skin on these phones are just lame. All that grey bled stuff makes it really boring (and ugly), a funeral looks more cheerfull than that.
As I'm looking to replace my One S in march, my preference will still be the Xiaom MI-2.
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And I cant edit my post because my post is to short (less than 2 characters) which its obviously not... So umh.. Yes the S4 Pro quad core is a lot more powerful without sacrificing a lot of battery, but comes with a price tag. And I think this phone will be launched as a sub-high-end alternative for the M7 (like the One S was with the one X).
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Well I actually lover the cpu choice. Everything runs smooth on this cpu, and with a less heavy skinned Jb (sense 5) this will only improve. Every singel game runs brilliant. I don't think you will notice its downclocked on sense 5 and will bring a lot better battery life I gues.
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You can trick the Power Saving on in JB, it will limit both cores to 1134mhz max on One S to save battery.
yup, I spoke many times in this broad 720P is a lot better(I was own a Xperia S and that is only a suck TFT mon, not IPS). QHD resolution is really not enough for text reading though. 720P does drains more cpu power over QHD because more pixels to render on screen so it's questionable to make cpu slower while the device actually needs more cpu.
All 1080P devices go with quad-core because they need even more cpu power to render extra pixels. 8960T is just a dual core ver of 1.7G S4 but with a upgraded GPU(Adreno 320).
HTC is really slipping. Three is nothing good about this device. The one thing I hated most about this phone is the terrible memory and HTC made the same mistake again... Better off with the Samsung galaxy s4 or the next nexus device. I strongly recommend skipping any HTC device for a long time.
This is NOT an upgrade to the One S, it's a sad excuse.
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HTC is really slipping. Three is nothing good about this device. The one thing I hated most about this phone is the terrible memory and HTC made the same mistake again... Better off with the Samsung galaxy s4 or the next nexus device. I strongly recommend skipping any HTC device for a long time.
This is NOT an upgrade to the One S, it's a sad excuse.
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Everyone has right on his own opinion, but I completely disagree with you with everything you just said.
I actually LOVE this device! the only thing i would change was the display. It shows quality all around. Incredible sound quality for both headphone and speaker, a slick (aluminum) design, great performance (was the best of its time) and a really really great camera. And although you can't fully unlock it and they released only a partial sourcecode doesn't mean its instantly trash.
Every single thing on the M4 is an upgrade for the One S, besides the CPU. And quite frankly I really don't see the use for a quadcore in a 4.3 inch phone with android 4.2. As the one S proved JB is buttery smooth on this chipset. Yes the IPS display will but its tax on the CPU, but with a lighter (and a lot lighter by the looks of the leaks) sense running on 4.2, I highly doubt you will notice it.
And yes I love the idea of the nexus serie and love the looks of stock android. But I never ever want it as a daily driver. It's just to formal and vannila for my taste. In the Gingerbread and ICS days i would have loved it because it was so much smoother than skinned phones. But JB brought a lot of chance in that, and the phone manufactures really stepped up there game with software development and drivers. Therefor a Nexus phone doesn't have any appeal for me AT ALL.
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The specs looks quite ok... But wtf? 1.2Ghz cpu speed? WHY!? Ive downclocked my S to 1.2Ghz a few times to save battery, and the difference is very noticable in speed. The battery I save I lose right away when having to wait extra long for something to finish loading.
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The specs looks quite ok... But wtf? 1.2Ghz cpu speed? WHY!? Ive downclocked my S to 1.2Ghz a few times to save battery, and the difference is very noticable in speed. The battery I save I lose right away when having to wait extra long for something to finish loading.
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Since every other mid-range phone is running S4 1.5G now, I don't think HTC will use 1.2G on their 2013 new phone. Sony's up coming mid-range will use MSM8960T 1.7G dual, I think HTC will just follow Sony.
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Everyone has right on his own opinion, but I completely disagree with you with everything you just said.
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Hey, sorry to forget mention about Xiaom MI-2. We have many chances to use China smartphone/tablet here in Hong Kong. I've to say it depends on your usage.
They are general powerful on hardware and cheap at price because they cut the cost from software development. You have no chance to get a stock rom close to the HTC/Samsung/Sony level, don't even to think get as many updates as HTC. So, the performance totally depends by custom roms and flash rom is almost a necessary on China stuffs. I see Xiaom MI-2 got a dev broad on XDA now.
If you are going to use it with only some general apps and not a heavy usage user, the stock rom may works fine and China stuffs almost never come with google playstore and map and others google apps, you have to get root access and install them by yourself. Not sure about Xiaom MI-2.
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I think apart from the weak cpu clockspeed(hopefully they will change to something like 1.5-1.7ghz), this phone is nice. But I think I am gonna keep my one S for this year and afterwards there will be new phones as well, so no need to buy one. One S is still just fine for everything.
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Hey, sorry to forget mention about Xiaom MI-2. We have many chances to use China smartphone/tablet here in Hong Kong. I've to say it depends on your usage.
They are general powerful on hardware and cheap at price because they cut the cost from software development. You have no chance to get a stock rom close to the HTC/Samsung/Sony level, don't even to think get as many updates as HTC. So, the performance totally depends by custom roms and flash rom is almost a necessary on China stuffs. I see Xiaom MI-2 got a dev broad on XDA now.
If you are going to use it with only some general apps and not a heavy usage user, the stock rom may works fine and China stuffs almost never come with google playstore and map and others google apps, you have to get root access and install them by yourself. Not sure about Xiaom MI-2.
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Thanks for your insight. But I think the MI-2 is worth another look. It's roots in rom development (the famous MIUI rom's) which are so succesfull they started building phones there self. I actually love the software and see more future in than in sense or touchwiz UX. They have monthly updates which are based on the miui community and by the looks of the reviews and benchmarks the firmware seems very optimized (all most the speed of the nexus 4, better audio quality than most high end phones, and photo quality is on par with the iphone and sony/samsung devices).
Many people view this phone as another cheap china phone, but I think it deserves a lot more credit than that. There are reports Xiaomi will bring the MI-2 to the US market this year, and is getting a lot of support all round (did i mention Qualcomm is one of the biggest investors?).
I don't want to sounds like this is the best phone on the market or that I'm completely sure I'm going to get one, i just want to raise it out of the budget phone segment.
HTC One S is ok for the average joe but if you want to...
i have an un branded HTC ONE S, which has been good to me in terms of using custom roms/kernels without too much hassle.
rooting on the other hand was bit of a nightmare, but that was due to me not reading all that i could before i tried, which leads me to the pain in the a** S-ON and having to flash boot kernels/recoveries with ADB (which is no longer a problem with FLASH IMAGE GUI supporting our device)
also the16gb rom is a bit low...would like to have the ability to upgrade to 32
i really dont see too much of an upgrade for our device , the HTC One S is ok for the average joe but if you want to root and mess round with custom roms and kernels, choose another device to upgrade to
This is so annoying. Still using 16 GB of internal memory, and now with 13mp camera (useless) so we can only fit 10 pictures.
Also, I guarantee this is gonna be S4 Plus (not Pro) and therefore it will have the Adreno 305 GPU. The old S4 Plus which the One S has, contains an Adreno 225, which is actually a lot faster than the 305.
So take a slower GPU and pair it with a 720p screen (instead of our 540p), take away some CPU performance as well, and what do you get?
And a 13 mp camera, seriously, I thought the "megapixel race" ended ages ago. How many people actually print out billboards from pictures taken on your phone? Just focus on lens quality and aperture, leave the megapixels at 8. Hell, even 5 is more than enough, I never take pictures at more than 2 mp myself.
HTC is digging its own grave.
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This is so annoying. Still using 16 GB of internal memory, and now with 13mp camera (useless) so we can only fit 10 pictures.
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Lol, bit of an exaggeration there.......
I have had over a 1000 photos (including lots of 1080P and slow motion footage) on my S and still had 5GB left. I don't store any music on my phone so 16GB is more than enough for me and is for many others, nexus 4 16 and 8GB models as well as iphones etc. sell well enough so the ones who want 32GB+ internal and/or a SD slot are in a small minority.
Also, we have no idea yet as to what the camera lens etc. is not to mention software/driver tweaks/optimisation, so how can you judge the camera when the phone specs etc. haven't even been confirmed
Regarding the M7 camera;
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-m7-rumored-carry-43-ultrapixel-camera
So it could be the same for the M4, just the way the camera on the X and S are the same.
HTC obviously has got everything wrong if they expect people to NOT store music on a "beats" branded phone.
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This is so annoying. Still using 16 GB of internal memory, and now with 13mp camera (useless) so we can only fit 10 pictures.
Also, I guarantee this is gonna be S4 Plus (not Pro) and therefore it will have the Adreno 305 GPU. The old S4 Plus which the One S has, contains an Adreno 225, which is actually a lot faster than the 305.
So take a slower GPU and pair it with a 720p screen (instead of our 540p), take away some CPU performance as well, and what do you get?
And a 13 mp camera, seriously, I thought the "megapixel race" ended ages ago. How many people actually print out billboards from pictures taken on your phone? Just focus on lens quality and aperture, leave the megapixels at 8. Hell, even 5 is more than enough, I never take pictures at more than 2 mp myself.
HTC is digging its own grave.
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yup, both CPU/GPU will be slower than One S if it is real using the Qualcomm S4 Plus MSM8930 Dual 1.2G but I doubt that because it will happen the case on One S(S3) again, a great smartphone with slower cpu and terrible sales result.
The M7/M4 will both likely using the technology similar to Foveon X3 RGB 3CMOS on DSLR. It means 3 x 4.3M CMOS combined together to output a 13M photo, you get perfect color and white balance reproduction this time. However, low light and high ISO might be even worse because three CMOS there to share the aperture now, the photo should be darker and more noises appear.
It is absolutely a killer to Nokia Pureview808 and the upcoming Nokia Lumia 950(WP8 with Pureview808) in summer but might not be on the same boat with original One X/S and Nokia 920 which targeted at low lighting environment. I'll see how M7/M4 to handle low light with this new 3CMOS because low light is more important to me.
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If you care about low light that mufh, why don't get a dslr?
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If you care about low light that mufh, why don't get a dslr?
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Because often when one is in low light conditions and wants to take pictures, they don't usually have their hefty DSLR kit with them. People only carry that stuff around when it's planned. If you go out for some drinks in the evening and want to take some pictures, the One S works wonders, and hence I actually really appreciate its ability to take decent pics in those scenarios without a flash.
Looks like I'll either be skipping an upgrade this year and stick with the One S, or sadly move to a different brand. Unless the M4 turns out to be different.
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Well I actually lover the cpu choice. Everything runs smooth on this cpu, and with a less heavy skinned Jb (sense 5) this will only improve. Every singel game runs brilliant. I don't think you will notice its downclocked on sense 5 and will bring a lot better battery life I gues.
The display in the one S is great. But when I hold it next to the One X or the SGIII or even the xperia T it really looks dreadfull. The colors and brightness seems fine but compared to these crisp screens it really falls out of the boat.
I'm wondering what the impact will be of a higher res lcd display on the 1.2ghz S4 though.
There are some Sony alternatives. Something I really like about those phones is the waterproof ones. But than again the Sony skin on these phones are just lame. All that grey bled stuff makes it really boring (and ugly), a funeral looks more cheerfull than that.
As I'm looking to replace my One S in march, my preference will still be the Xiaom MI-2.
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And I cant edit my post because my post is to short (less than 2 characters) which its obviously not... So umh.. Yes the S4 Pro quad core is a lot more powerful without sacrificing a lot of battery, but comes with a price tag. And I think this phone will be launched as a sub-high-end alternative for the M7 (like the One S was with the one X).
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Yes, and the lower processing speed will in fact increase the battery life too...
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Here are some photos of the M4:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_m4_appears_in_front_of_the_camera_for_the_first_time-news-5498.php
The M7 specs/design has been confirmed:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_m7_to_launch_on_march_8_in_france_priced_at_650-news-5496.php
The listing also confirms the specifications of HTC M7 to sport a 4.7" Full HD display, 1.7 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon quad-core processor along with 2GB RAM, 32 GB internal memory with microSD support, 4G, NFC, Android Jelly Bean and 2,300mAh battery
Furthermore, HTC M7 will be using a 13-megapixel camera with stacked sensor and ultrapixels for the first time and it will be interesting to see how the camera performs. M7 is also confirmed to feature the latest HTC 5.0 sense and Double HP techno Beats Audio.
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I imagine the black M7 will be similar to the black m4. M4 looks quite curvy/ergonomic and a bit thick so it looks like it will feel comfortable/nice in the hand.
By the looks of it, the speakers are on the front of the M7 too Also I am glad that they aren't going any bigger than 4.7".
Some people will call me mad and no one probably cares but I'm coming back to the one s! I sold mine back at the start of February and I bought a nexus 4. The nexus 4 is a nice device but stock android is incredibly plain and the software keys take up so much screen space the screen is barely bigger than the one s (except when watching videos)
The sound quality is also a big step down from the one s, The audio on the one s is 100x better the DAC and beats are the reason for this I think. And the nexus 4 is a lot quieter. Everyone's moaning about how quiet the volume output is and I'm pretty sure its hardware.
The camera is also a major downgrade, the pictures my nexus 4 takes aren't much better than what my HTC wildfire took! I'd just thought I'd let you guys know my opinion on the nexus 4 if you consider upgrading to it but I think apart from the bigger and better screen the one s beats it in every way. As for the s4 pro and 2gb of ram I've hardly noticed any difference in real world usage.
So anyone thinking they've had enough of the one s, just think you've still got a great phone I've just sold a nexus 4 to get another one s so that's how much I miss it. I'll need to get used to the non HD pentile display again which will probably take me a week or so but I'm looking forward to it A lesson to anyone who loves htc sense. Don't buy a nexus!
I don't wonder about it. One S probably will remain the best android phone of this size until HTC M4 out at Q3 end hopefully. The only weak point on One S is QHD pentile screen(some said no microSD) and all the other stuffs are very good to excellent. If I have budget problem in this year, I can imagine I could use it til next year, it's a very powerful phone. Indeed, I decided to hold One S as my backup phone though I may get a M4 or M7 later, or give it for my parents.
Plain stock android is always bad because you got too little function and settings but the best thing on nexus is you always have a perfect working CM rom. The most updated and bugs free CM. There are many hardware problems on N4 like camera and sound, make it the worst Nexus in the record.
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I don't wonder about it. One S probably will remain the best android phone of this size until HTC M4 out at Q3 end hopefully.
Plain stock android is always bad because you got too little function and settings but the best thing on nexus is you always have a perfect working CM rom. The most updated and bugs free CM.
There are many hardware problems on N4 like camera and sound, make it the worst Nexus in the record.
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I completely agree, the fact that I'm giving up a phone with a hd display for a phone with a qhd pentile display is a credit to how good the One S is. I'll only probably have it for about 4-5 months and then I'll get the HTC One when my contract runs out but the One S is great, I suppose I'm just a sense maniac. I love HTC sense.
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I completely agree, the fact that I'm giving up a phone with a hd display for a phone with a qhd pentile display is a credit to how good the One S is. I'll only probably have it for about 4-5 months and then I'll get the HTC One when my contract runs out but the One S is great, I suppose I'm just a sense maniac. I love HTC sense.
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You aren't alone to doing this mad thing..lol... I was once have a Sony Xperia S and finally sold it out for One S in June and never look back. But yep, you're right, 720P is very impressive for text reading.
Do you guys think a higher resolution would be worth it on a 4.3" screen? I come from a Galaxy S II and I agree that 800x480 is far worse than our 960x540. But going any higher would be worth it?
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Do you guys think a higher resolution would be worth it on a 4.3" screen? I come from a Galaxy S II and I agree that 800x480 is far worse than our 960x540. But going any higher would be worth it?
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I do but no higher than 720 x 1280. The 8x has that resolution and the screen is as sharp as anything. I personally think the higher resolution is great for text but apart from that it's hardly a big deal. The resolution of the one s is fine for videos and picture viewing etc. I certainly see absolutely no point in the 1080p full hd screens that they're putting in these newest flag ship phones! So I don't think it's worth it although it would be nice. Anything above 4.3" i'd say it certainly is worth a higher resolution than qhd.
I'd have to agree that 4.3" is likely the sweet spot for this screen resolution.
I'm also switching to a One S soon; I currently have an LG Optimus L9, mostly for audio purposes since a large majority of my smartphone time is spent listening to music (for its price, it's sure low on distortion and seems to be able to drive my NuForce IEMs with no fuss). Being an avid GSMArena reader, I was pleased to learn that the One S still holds some of the lowest distortion readings of all smartphones ever reviewed (and that the Snapdragon S4 really zooms on this particular device).
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I'd have to agree that 4.3" is likely the sweet spot for this screen resolution.
I'm also switching to a One S soon; I currently have an LG Optimus L9, mostly for audio purposes since a large majority of my smartphone time is spent listening to music (for its price, it's sure low on distortion and seems to be able to drive my NuForce IEMs with no fuss). Being an avid GSMArena reader, I was pleased to learn that the One S still holds some of the lowest distortion readings of all smartphones ever reviewed (and that the Snapdragon S4 really zooms on this particular device).
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You'll love it, the sound quality is superb on this phone. It's half the reason why I missed the phone in the first place! The jellybean update made the audio a bit distorted and the volume was too loud so I don't know if that's been fixed but I know the sound quality was immense on sense 4.1 on ice cream sandwich.
Wow, you guys are updating quite fast! I just bought my one s (for a bargain) and I'm hoping to keep using it for 2 years. My previous phone was a galaxy s1, so compared to that, the one s really flies
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Some people will call me mad and no one probably cares but I'm coming back to the one s! I sold mine back at the start of February and I bought a nexus 4
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Welcome back but 64 GB variant will be batter
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I do but no higher than 720 x 1280. The 8x has that resolution and the screen is as sharp as anything. I personally think the higher resolution is great for text but apart from that it's hardly a big deal. The resolution of the one s is fine for videos and picture viewing etc. I certainly see absolutely no point in the 1080p full hd screens that they're putting in these newest flag ship phones! So I don't think it's worth it although it would be nice. Anything above 4.3" i'd say it certainly is worth a higher resolution than qhd.
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1080P is still useful if you are going to read some low quality pdf documents(probably scan via scanner) but WWW should be enough at 720p.
Do you think third party apps are more optimized (more fluid, stable...) on nexus 4 than on htc one s? Im thinking of switching to an iphone because of this...
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Do you think third party apps are more optimized (more fluid, stable...) on nexus 4 than on htc one s? Im thinking of switching to an iphone because of this...
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Nexus is not necessary better when you only stick with stock plain os. However, if you are willing to flash Nexus CM rom with 3rd kernels then the answer is 100% yes. But N4 is really bad at music, camera and voice call(or use BT handfree instead)........really really bad
iphone is good if you can live with the tiny screen.
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Nexus is not necessary better when you only stick with stock plain os. However, if you are willing to flash Nexus CM rom with 3rd kernels then the answer is 100% yes. But N4 is really bad at music, camera and voice call(or use BT handfree instead)........really really bad
iphone is good if you can live with the tiny screen.
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+1 to this
Apps run a little bit smoother on the nexus 4 but stock android and 4.2 are the main reason why. I just think the hardware of the device is rubbish. The dac is poor and the camera is awful. The nexus is good if you want a snappy stock android phone.
If you flash acid audio engine, music with earphones should be great, as it is on hos with cm and that mod.
Ill wait for ios 7 and key lime pie to decide, but I really dont see why not choosing a nexus instead of any other android phone: the SO is far more polished and software is always up to date. However when I see even nexus devices lagging in browser ,for example, I doubt a lot about android as SO...
Aside from the camera and sound I wouldn't go back to the one s , yea the widgets look better on sense and the theming is cool but I got rid of the soft keys thanks to a ROM and now I have the screen space jack and I really love the display ... I just wish they can make a nexus the size of a one s with HTCs camera and Googles freedom ... I know Google said the next nexus is going to have an insane camera so that might be the one!
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Matter of opinion I suppose
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Matter of opinion I suppose
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Don't fret too much guitarman (get it?) Look in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2116062
Tecardo is a master of restoring bricked HTC One S, give him a PM and see if he can help you out.
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Don't fret too much guitarman (get it?) Look in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2116062
Tecardo is a master of restoring bricked HTC One S, give him a PM and see if he can help you out.
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hehe I get it, nice one
Today HTC's got a 40% off sale for the M9, the second they've had in recent weeks, so it looks like they are really trying to move it. I have an A9 and like it pretty well, but at $390 (US), how do users that have had both feel the A9 stacks up. I'm coming from the M7 and am enjoying the camera upgrade and better screen, but miss the speakers and HDMI out, though not enough to spend and extra $250 on the M9 at full price.
I'm following the threads on the camera over on the M9 forums and people are doing cool things, so I'm torn on returning this for the M9 on sale.
How do people that have made the jump feel?
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Today HTC's got a 40% off sale for the M9, the second they've had in recent weeks, so it looks like they are really trying to move it. I have an A9 and like it pretty well, but at $390 (US), how do users that have had both feel the A9 stacks up. I'm coming from the M7 and am enjoying the camera upgrade and better screen, but miss the speakers and HDMI out, though not enough to spend and extra $250 on the M9 at full price.
I'm following the threads on the camera over on the M9 forums and people are doing cool things, so I'm torn on returning this for the M9 on sale.
How do people that have made the jump feel?
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I prefer my M9. The A9 is VERY cool and I like it a lot, but just not as much as my M9. The A9 fingerprint scanner is extremely cool, but that's about the only thing I can think of that I like more. I prefer sense on the M9 and I know that custom roms will probably come to the A9, but there aren't any yet so the best you can do as fast a customizing is to root. The custom rom I use on my M9 is pretty close to stock, but has some nice tweaks that I've gotten used to.
I haven't tried the camera on the A9, but the M9 is good enough for my purposes (snapshots and videos of the kid). I also haven't tested battery life, but the M9 isn't very good in that regard, so I'm expecting the A9 to be about the same.
Marshmallow seems cool, but it's coming to the M9 by year end, so that shouldn't be much of a factor.
Are there any specific questions you want me to answer? I have both devices here next to me.
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Are there any specific questions you want me to answer? I have both devices here next to me.
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Thanks for the reply. I don't have anything specific, just wondering what people feel. For me, the two big features I miss are stereo speakers and HDMI out. Neither of those are worth a bunch to me, but I miss them, especially when traveling. But at the same price...
That said, I like Sense and don't have much stomach for ROMs any more (too many late nights trying to restore my phone). The speed of M9 is meaningless to me, my M7 is still fast enough, though the bump in RAM in the A9 has been welcome.
The big one is the camera. I see what people are doing over on the M9 forums in the camera thread and the M9 camera is clearly better than it was first reviewed, but most of those great pictures seem to be lots of tweaking and attention. Do you feel the A9 has the better camera for "day to day" use?
It's not that I'm unhappy with the A9, I'm just eyeing the deal for what is ostensibly a "better" phone wondering if it's worth switching. I expect I'm not the only one wondering what the comparison is.
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Thanks for the reply. I don't have anything specific, just wondering what people feel. For me, the two big features I miss are stereo speakers and HDMI out. Neither of those are worth a bunch to me, but I miss them, especially when traveling. But at the same price...
That said, I like Sense and don't have much stomach for ROMs any more (too many late nights trying to restore my phone). The speed of M9 is meaningless to me, my M7 is still fast enough, though the bump in RAM in the A9 has been welcome.
The big one is the camera. I see what people are doing over on the M9 forums in the camera thread and the M9 camera is clearly better than it was first reviewed, but most of those great pictures seem to be lots of tweaking and attention. Do you feel the A9 has the better camera for "day to day" use?
It's not that I'm unhappy with the A9, I'm just eyeing the deal for what is ostensibly a "better" phone wondering if it's worth switching. I expect I'm not the only one wondering what the comparison is.
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I haven't taken a single picture with the A9. The M9 camera is fine. It's definitely not spectacular. Those guys in the M9 camera thread recommend to not touch the screen in auto mode (to select a focus point) so sometimes the camera doesn't focus on the subject if your subject is not obvious (or centered). In low light, you definitely have to try to keep your phone steady to get the best results.
If you like the A9, the i don't think you should get an M9. It's not necessarily better than the A9, it's just different with different strengths ans weaknesses. I much prefer the M9, but i'm sure others much prefer the A9.
A9 camera is better than the M9 IMO, I have both. But still sucks compared to the iPhone..so yeah...Plus, I like the look/feel of the new A9 over the M9, size/weight etc.just hoping for VZW support sooner than later, and some custom ROMs as well.
I'd worked around all these crappy camera issues by just getting a Sony QX-100 instead. Now I don't have to care except for the crappy Sony WiFi issues.
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I'd worked around all these crappy camera issues by just getting a Sony QX-100 instead. Now I don't have to care except for the crappy Sony WiFi issues.
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Why go for the Sony QX-100 when you could have gotten a Sony RX100, forgone any viewfinder lag, added a flash and several other features, and still had kept the nifty remote viewfinder in case that sort of thing is important to you?
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Why go for the Sony QX-100 when you could have gotten a Sony RX100, forgone any viewfinder lag, added a flash and several other features, and still had kept the nifty remote viewfinder in case that sort of thing is important to you?
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Yup, that's why I solved that with a Mk4 of it.
My point is that we can get ahead of the smartphone camera race, if we really cared. Selecting a camera based on a smartphone is fairly pointless to me since phones are so "disposable" and varying quality these days.
A9 camera is better IMO. LIke the looks/feel of the A9, plus the price was right...but alas, no VZW support anytime soon...need to go back to cricket/att in 12 months...vzw was a mistake.
Here's a difference that is giving me cause to pause and consider returning the A9.
I'm not a video gamer so normally I ignore those type of performance ratings when phones are reviewed/compared. However, on a whim I picked up a free Google Cardboard from VZW last week. I put my M9 into it and had a great time experimenting with the concept. It was a generally entertaining experience.
Then, this week, my red A9 showed up. Yeah I can't use it on VZW yet but that didn't stop me from playing with it. Well, wouldn't ya know, the same Google Cardboard things that I played around with on the M9 performed poorer on the A9. Notably poorer. The part I'm talking about is around panning the image to and fro using the demonstration app. I suspect that this is due to the 3D rendered nature of the demo. The image, while panning, stutters noticeably on the A9.
This is the first phone I've had in a long time that wasn't running a Snapdragon 800 series processor and other top end components. I guess the M9's better graphics engine is coming into play. Bummer, because the A9's OIS is an attractive feature the M9 lacks. The fingerprint reader works fine but I wish the placement was on the back like my Nexus 5X. Other than that, I can't find many differences or have many complaints about the A9 vs the M9. But this one thing with Google Cardboard could be foreshadowing of something else I'll bump into down the road so i have to hurry up and make the decision on whether or not to keep it.
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The fingerprint reader works fine but I wish the placement was on the back like my Nexus 5X.
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I'm a nexus 5 owner. I'm considering getting a nexus 5x or an A9. Also considering just replacing my black 16 GB nexus 5 (that has a cracked screen) with a red 32gb nexus 5 since I love this phone so much.
What are your thoughts? I love the size of them all and all of their displays. The A9 is by far the best looking. Batteries are all about the same. N5 camera is worst of the 3. Fingerprint readers on the 5x and a9. Price of N5 is dirt cheap and the A9 is a little steep. 3gb ram on a9. 5x has the best cpu and I'm a big fan of nexus 4 and 5.
I'm torn.
Plus this forum is not showing much promise for development. Honestly, root is all I need, but it would still be a bonus.
Sorry for OT
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I'm a nexus 5 owner. I'm considering getting a nexus 5x or an A9. Also considering just replacing my black 16 GB nexus 5 (that has a cracked screen) with a red 32gb nexus 5 since I love this phone so much.
What are your thoughts? I love the size of them all and all of their displays. The A9 is by far the best looking. Batteries are all about the same. N5 camera is worst of the 3. Fingerprint readers on the 5x and a9. Price of N5 is dirt cheap and the A9 is a little steep. 3gb ram on a9. 5x has the best cpu and I'm a big fan of nexus 4 and 5.
I'm torn.
Plus this forum is not showing much promise for development. Honestly, root is all I need, but it would still be a bonus.
Sorry for OT
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I have a Nexus 5X, a One M9 and the One A9. I'm all One A9. Performance seems to be on par with the M9 and better compared to the 5X. The camera quality is better than the M9 and seems on par with the 5X.
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I have a Nexus 5X, a One M9 and the One A9. I'm all One A9. Performance seems to be on par with the M9 and better compared to the 5X. The camera quality is better than the M9 and seems on par with the 5X.
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Find it hard to believe better performance than the N5x considering internal differences. I've seen the A9 get bogged down with maps open and in background... Also saw it dropping frames while gaming where the 5x doesn't. I can understand it being on par with the m9 but only because the ui is more optimized.
I wish I could make the A9 and 5x mate... Give me a 32gb, metal, iPhone looking device with microsd support, 3gb ram, SD 808 CPU, and 5x display. Ugh
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Find it hard to believe better performance than the N5x considering internal differences. I've seen the A9 get bogged down with maps open and in background... Also saw it dropping frames while gaming where the 5x doesn't. I can understand it being on par with the m9 but only because the ui is more optimized.
I wish I could make the A9 and 5x mate... Give me a 32gb, metal, iPhone looking device with microsd support, 3gb ram, SD 808 CPU, and 5x display. Ugh
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I used the 5X for a month and I've been using the A9 for a month. Daily usage...A9 seems better. I don't really game too much other than Threes and some basketball game.
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I used the 5X for a month and I've been using the A9 for a month. Daily usage...A9 seems better. I don't really game too much other than Threes and some basketball game.
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Lol I don't game either, not on my phone at least, just happened to notice it and I was a lil put off...
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So are there specific daily tasks where the m9 shows the 810 issues? They say it is a lot better with last updates but I don't have one and here in Italy it's almost absent in the market.
I had an M9 and G4 and now A9, well the A9 is superior to both!
The screen doesn't suffer from poor viewing angles like on M9.
Sound quality with earphones is thousands miles better than G4 and slighty better than M9.
Camera is better than M9 for sure but not as good as G4 because of the poor dynamic light
Design wise it's finally different than M7 and M8 while very sexy and keeping the metal body spirit.
Battery is the same on all 3 devices.
UI speed on A9 is faster than M9, it's so fast that it feels like a liquid UI
The only thing the M9 has more is the wide custom Sense roms available, but the A9 will have a good one soon.
So yes the A9 is the way to go!
I also have both A9 and M9 and here is my response to your comments
The screen doesn't suffer from poor viewing angles like on M9.
- M9 does NOT have poor viewing angles. Don't make people believe on this.
Sound quality with earphones is thousands miles better than G4 and slighty better than M9.
- Probably. But then again, M9 is both EXCELLENT in speaker and earphone tests unlike the A9 who has tinny sound coming from the mono speaker.
Camera is better than M9 for sure but not as good as G4 because of the poor dynamic light
- Agreed. The M9 could've been considered GOOD if not for the lack of OIS. (Note: slight hand movement WILL make your photos blurry especially in indoor/low lighting so the 20mp is technically USELESS if that happens.)
Design wise it's finally different than M7 and M8 while very sexy and keeping the metal body spirit.
- and to those people who don't like iOS but would like to have a similar design to an iPhone 6
Battery is the same on all 3 devices.
- A9 is only good at standby. Use it normally and it WILL drain faster than M9.
UI speed on A9 is faster than M9, it's so fast that it feels like a liquid UI
- Disagree. A9 stutters esp when multitasking (switching from an app to another) while the M9 is a SOLID performer (just like the M8 and M7).
The only thing the M9 has more is the wide custom Sense roms available, but the A9 will have a good one soon.
So yes the A9 is the way to go!
- It's the way to go if you prefer to have:
1. A better camera experience
2. Fingerprint scanner
3. iPhone-esque design
4. Lighter and slimmer body
5. AMOLED screen
Cons:
1. Slower performance than the M9
2. No boomsound speaker
3. Perceived as an iPhone clone to some (I definitely argue with people who are telling me it's HTC who imitated. grrrr)
Well, I guess it would be fine for me. I'd rather have a smooth interface than a roughly fast one, but it's just me. I definitely understand who needs a fast phone and can sacrifice some of the ux. Anyone owning the red one to tell me how it looks?
Im struggeling between oneplus 2 and htc one a9.. what do you guys think is the best choice?
the snapdragon 617 makes me thoughtful...
I still like my Idol 3, even though it lags a bit since a little while. I'm rooted (using stock firmware) and started using Greenify, so I'll see if it's better with many apps "greenified".
But I'm tempted by the Moto X Pure (or Style, it's the same). The 3GB RAM (vs 2 GB for the Idol 3) and a better processor must make it quite faster than the Idol 3. And the camera is supposed to be better as well. I'm afraid the battery is worse than the Idol 3 from what I read though. I'm in Canada and the X Pure is a bit of a pain to buy because Motorola decided to only release the inferior X Play (only great thing vs the Pure seems the killer battery) here only...
What do you guys think?
Well, I'm sure Moto is better, but so it also should be, because at least here in Finland Moto is almost twice as expensive than Alcatel (Moto ~500€, Alcatel 280€)
I am also considering it.
It is a good phone,but did you think about the Nexus phones as well?
But I suggest you wait until we get MM,then try to think about it all.
That is what I am going to do myself.
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I am also considering it.
It is a good phone,but did you think about the Nexus phones as well?
But I suggest you wait until we get MM,then try to think about it all.
That is what I am going to do myself.
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Nexuses are a no go because I need a microSD card... If the Nexus had the damn SD slot, that would be so great...
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Nexuses are a no go because I need a microSD card... If the Nexus had the damn SD slot, that would be so great...
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Yeah,that is a flaw of a certain kind.
But,the 5x and 6p are still Nexii,theyhave fingerprint readers,minimalistic design,decent cameras and good SOCs.
As for lack of storage,one can always use cloud storage or have a 32GB hybrid USB(normal USB on one side,and micro USB/USB type C on the other side) in the pocket.
I have the 6045K which has no sd card slot. When you want something,you can always find a way!
Also,I dislike the body language of the Moto phones(the fat-in-the-middle design).
A phone these days has to feel good in hand and look good as well.
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Yeah,that is a flaw of a certain kind.
But,the 5x and 6p are still Nexii,theyhave fingerprint readers,minimalistic design,decent cameras and good SOCs.
As for lack of storage,one can always use cloud storage or have a 32GB hybrid USB(normal USB on one side,and micro USB/USB type C on the other side) in the pocket.
I have the 6045K which has no sd card slot. When you want something,you can always find a way!
Also,I dislike the body language of the Moto phones(the fat-in-the-middle design).
A phone these days has to feel good in hand and look good as well.
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32GB is not enough for me. I just got the new SanDisk 200GB.... I need front-facing stereo speakers and microSD slot. Too bad Nexus doesn't qualify...
Ofcourse it is. UI is smooth. MXP is fast and just better than idol 3. Even more noticeable now when I grab my wife's Idol 3 - which feels like junk (UI microlags everywhere and overall just slow). Sorry, but it's the truth. Idol 3 rear flashlight is brighter though! And I do miss the full screen rotation. That's it.
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I like also the moto x pure/style. But when i would be you i would wait untill the new MOTO X 2016 is released, because then the old models get discounted.
I like the camera on MOTO X Pure (at most the 720p 240fps slow motion)
And of course there is much much bigger comunity of moto x pure users.
In my humble opinion it depends on how you use your phone for.
Let's say, I would never upgrade to moto x pure cause the 808 on 2k screen is same as 615 on 1080p in 3d demanding tasks. Also the faster and more pixelated screen are more demanding on the battery consumption. Also with cm 12.1 custom roms like pac man or slim (big thanks to @The Marionette the idol 3 is on pair with much more expensive devices - my friend has huawei p9 that I'll never trade for Idol3).
The sound from speakers and headphones is similar, and you have viper4android if you want the next level of sound exp.
Camera is better in low light, you have flash on front, and some feature advantages but I'm satisfied for the most with idol.
The build quality is noticeable better, but idol is lighter and thinner.
So it really depends on your demands and needs. As the Marionette said above, storage is up to you, I know some dudes that live comfortably on iPhone 6s with 16gigs ! That's like 2009 times.. You'll always have the downs and ups for something.
This all said, it doesn't mean I wouldn't upgrade for note 5(even though i would switch positions for capacitive buttons) or 6p or some 820 SOC.
Try the moto and figure it for yourself would be the most appropriate for you.
Killa Beez
Nikola Jovanovic said:
In my humble opinion it depends on how you use your phone for.
Let's say, I would never upgrade to moto x pure cause the 808 on 2k screen is same as 615 on 1080p in 3d demanding tasks. Also the faster and more pixelated screen are more demanding on the battery consumption. Also with cm 12.1 custom roms like pac man or slim (big thanks to @The Marionette the idol 3 is on pair with much more expensive devices - my friend has huawei p9 that I'll never trade for Idol3).
The sound from speakers and headphones is similar, and you have viper4android if you want the next level of sound exp.
Camera is better in low light, you have flash on front, and some feature advantages but I'm satisfied for the most with idol.
The build quality is noticeable better, but idol is lighter and thinner.
So it really depends on your demands and needs. As the Marionette said above, storage is up to you, I know some dudes that live comfortably on iPhone 6s with 16gigs ! That's like 2009 times.. You'll always have the downs and ups for something.
This all said, it doesn't mean I wouldn't upgrade for note 5(even though i would switch positions for capacitive buttons) or 6p or some 820 SOC.
Try the moto and figure it for yourself would be the most appropriate for you.
Killa Beez
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No. 808/418 pushing quad is not the same as a 615/405 at 1080p. You constantly get 20-30fps @2k on intensive 3D on MXP vs 8-15 fps max on Idol 3 @1080P. 3D stuff is just smooth. It is not the same. 615/405 @ 1080p is *somewhat comparable to a 801/330 @2k (testing a g3 proved that even a 801 at 2k is slightly faster than a 615/405 @1080P). Battery is slightly less I get 4 SOT on stock (rooted+all goodies) but that is not even an issue with quickcharge. Phones charges to full in 35 mins. 15 mins I'm up almost 50%. Multitasking is just night and day on a MXP vs Idol 3. In a trip have Pandora running, Waze, BT, then try to do something else... Good luck.
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I'm getting 30fps on custom rom with 5h sot so my experience is different, mainly cause of bad optimisation by Alcatel vs cm editions.
Killa Beez
I had the Moto X pure. It is a really nice phone. The build quality is definitely better but it does cost twice as much so it should. Although the camera might be a little better I am very happy with the camera on the Idol 3. I really don't have anything bad to say about the Idol 3
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I had the Moto X pure. It is a really nice phone. The build quality is definitely better but it does cost twice as much so it should. Although the camera might be a little better I am very happy with the camera on the Idol 3. I really don't have anything bad to say about the Idol 3
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True that typically a MXP it's 2 times as much but I've seen several deals for the 32GB version for $300 which is just $100 more for a way better phone. Here is one:
http://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-x-pure-edition-adler
Put a case and ur good to go.
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techware7 said:
True that typically a MXP it's 2 times as much but I've seen several deals for the 32GB version for $300 which is just $100 more for a way better phone. Here is one:
http://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-x-pure-edition-adler
Put a case and ur good to go.
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If only us Canadians had access to these offers
The Moto X Pure is not available in Canada by Motorola or any carriers, but there are unlocked 32GB models on Amazon.ca at around $625 CAN. Telus sold me my 16GB Idol 3 for $360 CAN. So here, the Pure is not double the price...
I just got a G4 today. It craps all over the idol......except for the battery. I barley got 2 hours SOT. What a joke.
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Hi All,
I bought an Idol 3 4.7 in September 2015. I bought it because I wanted a lightweight and sleek phone; and, it was really light, weighing merely 110g. But it's performance let me down - the stock rom was really, really slow. Luckily, with pivoq's cm 12.1 rom, the phone got a new life. However, watching youtube and reading news was not enjoyable on such a tiny device. I am using the phone during my running because...
In Feb 2016, I did a lot of research and bought a MXS (Moto X Style). Contenders were Nexus 6P, Oneplus 2, LG G4 and Asus Zenfone2. MXS is still the best device in terms of value. Snapdragon 808 is nearly as good as 810. MXS has a microsd and has the best, loudest front facing speakers. The sound from headset is plain awesome - it will completely humiliate Idol3-5.5. MXS rom is nearly plain Android stock with some very nice additions such as chop-chop for flashlight and swirl action to launch camera. It also gets regular updates, but as not as fast as nexuses. I am sure I will get Android N within a month or so.
Compared with 6P, MXS has the same 5.7 inch screen but in smaller footprint and hence is very comfortable to hold. MXP's front facing speakers beats 6P hands down. MXP also has an SD card and most importantly MXP 32 GB is just €360 now, compared to 6P which is €650 now. In half the price, you'll get nearly the same features. It's true that 6P has a better low light camera and a fingerprint sensor, but I don't do too much of low shooting anyways and I have a smartwatch that keeps much device unlocked through trusted connections.
Other tow best value phones are Oneplus 3 and Zenfone 2. I hate Zenfone's software, hence will need rooting and CM13. It is also slower and bigger than MXS with a smaller screen. I was very confused between Oneplus 3, which is even cheaper, and MXS. Finally decided to take MXS due to stock android experience, better cameras and bigger screen.
I strongly recommend MXP over any phablet because of:
1. SD Card
2. Best screen to size ratio
3. Awesome front facing speakers
4. Amazing sound from headphones
5. Near stock Android rom, with regular updates, and very useful additions
6. Good simple and very functional camera app (no manual controls, btw)
7. Best Value (price to performance)
8. Front camera with flash
9. Good battery life, with marshmallow 6.0.1 update, the battery is superb
This was a short write-up of my experience with MXS over the last 3 months. I hope it helps people take a wise decision
Thanks for this lenghty post! Moto X Pure (Style) looks very interesting.
But I started using Greenify a few days ago and since then, my Idol 3 5.5 is less laggy. Because of that, I'll probably hold on to it for a little while but I surely keep the Pure/Style in mind.
On the g4 that is terrible. This is my tipical day with basic optimization and 4 cores always active (factory kernel) I'm half day thru and SOT is more than 2 hours with bad LTE signal!. I always end up with 4 or 4:20 SOT. On an area with good LTE i hit 5 SOT. I can extend that to 5 (in a bad area) lowering cores and clock speed but I don't need it. Like I said, use your car charger for 15 mins and it goes up 50%.
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MXP is miles away from an Idol 3.
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*And no, I'm not on wifi. I'm driving around lilburn, GA using LTE. I do leave wifi and GPS on all the time but don't connect to any WiFi hotspot until I get home.
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Well, what leaked so far for the upcoming Moto X 2016 with the lack of stereo speakers left me quite cold...
There are some Moto X Style (same as the Pure Edition, but for Europe) on sale at expansys.ca for $440 CAN (or $349 US). It's said to be compatible with the major Canadian carriers for LTE and 3G. It's very tempting to upgrade my Idol 3 with this (my Idol is still sold $360 CAN over here)...
http://www.expansys.ca/motorola-moto-x-style-xt1572-unlocked-32gb-white-284814/
[edit] Looks like it's backordered for 3-4 weeks...
Anyone ever used Expansys?
What about the warranty for an international model sold in North America?
[edit] Expansys-USA provides a 6-month warranty for this, with an additional 12-month that can be purchased for $50 CAN.
Thanks.