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A Facebook application for your Windows Mobile phone officially from Microsoft !
* Send messages to any of the people in your Friends list.
* Take pictures and videos on your phone, then upload them right to Facebook.
* Send messages or call people in your Friends list.
* Manage your profile and post anytime, anywhere.
Keep up with the latest news and posts with Facebook on your phone. Now your status updates can be up-to-the moment accounts of what you’re doing. Photos and videos are about as close to live-action as you can get. Show your friends what you’re up to, while you’re out and about.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/downloads/facebook.mspx
you just beat me to posting it...looks good so far.
I almost got caught to facebook also but I had too many doubts. Here is a version of someones doubts... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XhzYGoBif8
Do not forget that facebooks social side (the only side actually) is useful only if you use your real name. Otherways nobody wont find you. Now just think...
EDIT:...or let me explain. Basically, what goes there stays there. For start if you happen to get to a criminal side for genuine needs, cops would get loads of information about your relationships etc.
And the main point: facebook-A BIG mass of data from everyone. This might be the present or surely it will be the future: intelligent engines/robots to scan and analyze the mass of data accumulated there psychologically enough to make conclusions about geopolitical/social/mass-psychological preferences. And the kind of preferences we cannot think about even for now. The next move from there is agressive manipulation and big loss of freedom
yeah, works perfectly on my TD2 ;-)
darfri said:
I almost got caught to facebook also but I had too many doubts. Here is a version of someones doubts... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XhzYGoBif8
Do not forget that facebooks social side (the only side actually) is useful only if you use your real name. Otherways nobody wont find you. Now just think...
EDIT:...or let me explain. Basically, what goes there stays there. For start if you happen to get to a criminal side for genuine needs, cops would get loads of information about your relationships etc.
And the main point: facebook-A BIG mass of data from everyone. This might be the present or surely it will be the future: intelligent engines/robots to scan and analyze the mass of data accumulated there psychologically enough to make conclusions about geopolitical/social/mass-psychological preferences. And the kind of preferences we cannot think about even for now. The next move from there is agressive manipulation and big loss of freedom
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Facebook just holds the information YOU provide, pretty simple. It is a VERY good way to stay in touch with old friends and relatives but of course it is a pretty open social network and you need to be careful with the information YOU provide. Facebook doesn't take or steal anything from you, it is up to YOU what kind of information and how much of it you provide for others to see. THAT simple. To make it short: just use your brain and Facebook can be a very nice place to enjoy.
Working for me
Works great so far on my TD2. Can't believe it took this long for microsoft to release a facebook app for windows mobile!!!
One down side though, still doesnt have flick scrolling which is a bit of a pain, hopefully they'll sort that out soon.
P996 said:
Facebook just holds the information YOU provide, pretty simple. It is a VERY good way to stay in touch with old friends and relatives but of course it is a pretty open social network and you need to be careful with the information YOU provide. Facebook doesn't take or steal anything from you, it is up to YOU what kind of information and how much of it you provide for others to see. THAT simple. To make it short: just use your brain and Facebook can be a very nice place to enjoy.
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Yeah, but what about REAL names... thats enough for me
Off course facebook doesn't steal anything from me. It is just a container... a container which at some point contains data enough (even if you do not put there facts like home address etc, just your name which is a damn good fact) to get analyzed. And offcourse - not by facebook. Even chats and comments are enough at some point to compile a solid profile about you. Once again - they are related to REAL names.
I know it is hard to like this kind of theory when you already have a facebook account. My wife has a facebook account and I am seeing the mass of information streaming there. Besides the social side is so effective that you cannot get out of it anymore - it is a good extra communication platform.
BTW I have a plaxo account which has my outlook contact folders... I "can" delete the folders and account there but what about THEIR recycle bin for "archival" and "statistics" purposes... I'd love to get rid of it but I think there is no need to do it as it is too late already.
And I just received an emali from damn facebook which suggested me to sign up and showed the names of the people I know. How did the monster know my friends if I have been avoiding it
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just like any other member networkin YOU sign up to it askes if theres anyone you would like to forward a membership request to! if your that worried about robots scanniny your comp to find all your details then jus dont have a comp or a bank account or anything dont even have a fone but its a decent app thnx
the app jus locks up wen i go to run it
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the app jus locks up wen i go to run it
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DOesnt work for me either. just freezes. the 0.16 version worked better :/.
jumbo2000 said:
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just like any other member networkin YOU sign up to it askes if theres anyone you would like to forward a membership request to! if your that worried about robots scanniny your comp to find all your details then jus dont have a comp or a bank account or anything dont even have a fone but its a decent app thnx
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This app here might be as good as possible. No complaints about it.
uhh... I'll put it as short as I can: First: I am not worried about scanning my PC. I am worried about scanning the data on Facebook servers.
It contains your REAL name and your REAL activities. Please folks... try to imagine just a little bit. The scanner wouldn't be any data collector or single data unit detector (like bank account numbers, email etc). I am talking about intelligent scanner here. The one that uses sentence content detection/comparsion and linguistic variation approximating techniques in spite of the personality that is in the text. Face recognition is already there for us to use even. From this point scanner has already simplified data to deal with. Imagine this kind of scanner cooperating with psychologists who obey people with high political, economical - and if anybody is interested anymore about the old timer - MORAL authority. As time has told the ambitions of these people have almost never been sincere. A single facebook user most likely wouldn't be endangered. It is plurality that makes the effect
mokuni said:
DOesnt work for me either. just freezes. the 0.16 version worked better :/.
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Same here. After keying in userid and password and tap on done. the app freezes.
After trial and error, i found out that its the files used by the previous version that's causing the lockup.
Try uninstall the facebook app completely then rename Facebook.vol and fbmail.vol to something like Facebook.vol.old and fbmail.vol.old.
install the latest version and try.
If it works.. u can delete the 2 .old files.
P996 said:
Facebook just holds the information YOU provide, pretty simple. It is a VERY good way to stay in touch with old friends and relatives but of course it is a pretty open social network and you need to be careful with the information YOU provide. Facebook doesn't take or steal anything from you, it is up to YOU what kind of information and how much of it you provide for others to see. THAT simple. To make it short: just use your brain and Facebook can be a very nice place to enjoy.
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That’s only one half of the brain. And that the phrase I keep listening from Facebook users.
The question is ... Can you control what other people post about you? Pictures information’s etc?
I know that they can still do that but those information’s are usable only if they are linked to an existing user...
When you open an account then pictures from you on your friends account stops being a picture.
It’s now usable and abusable data... I t’s just a question of time for both of those things...
Try now and use your brain 100% ...
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cypork said:
Same here. After keying in userid and password and tap on done. the app freezes.
After trial and error, i found out that its the files used by the previous version that's causing the lockup.
Try uninstall the facebook app completely then rename Facebook.vol and fbmail.vol to something like Facebook.vol.old and fbmail.vol.old.
install the latest version and try.
If it works.. u can delete the 2 .old files.
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Cypork, deleted both files, and reran fb app and bam, works like a charm. thanks. .
mokuni said:
Cypork, deleted both files, and reran fb app and bam, works like a charm. thanks. .
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Fantastic. Glad it works for u as well
works fine on my D2. great app, finally
as for the philosophy of facebook and social networking, i'm afraid that what darfri says is true. we users use it as a fun location, posting information that is not harmful for anyone...but what it is done with it in the background where big brother watches, only God knows...
but honestly, with today's tehnology i would not bother about information some guys know about me. i'm sure that if they want to know, they will know...and i don't think they will go as far as facebook. but this growing/exploding community could be a good source too, at some point.
Hi, I'm a noobie when it comes to Android. Actually, I will be buying my phone only tonight. I have been researching some apps, and I have become a little concerned about security. Using the Permission tab in the Android Market place to see what the app is up to, has raised some red flags. For example Winamp is accessing phone state/identity and sensitive logs. An other app was accessing the contact list. These apps have no reason to be touching that part of my phone, but yet they are. A music app does not need to know my phone's ESN. If the app needs to profile me, then I should have an account and log in.
Am I being paranoid or does any one else share these concerns?
You are absolutely right to be paranoid and kudos to you for actually checking the permissions page. If something raises a red flag with you then don't touch it. Even if the dev isn't hell bent on stealing your secrets, it will send a message that people don't want every app to have unlimited access to everything that's on their devices.
Security is starting to become an issue with Android so clearly people need to be paying attention to what they are installing.
Unless you are familiar with the programming, it's hard to say for sure...a music app may need to know phone state to pause and resume music when you get a call or to be able to assign songs as ringtones... just use your best judgement, or email the dev to ask why the permissions are required.
HTC incRedibly-reEngineered
Is there anywhere on the net that certifies an android app as non malware?
I can recommend https://www.mylookout.com/ it's free as well,there is also a premium paid service if you so wish.
I hope this time it's the correct forum.
So long story short.
I've written an app that allows to hijack FaceBook profiles over the WiFi. So when you're connected to WiFi you can "hack" into other users profiles. It doesn't work for profiles using SSL (yes you have that option in FB). So it can be treated as a "bad app". BUT! it is not dangerous for the one using it. I am aware that this is "questionable" application, but is there any other way to tell people - "HEY! use secure connections, it is not safe to use public WIFI!". I'd bet that a lot of you don't use SSL now and after using/reading this app you will turn SSL on.
That could be the #1 reason for deleting my app.
The second one is that I've put a 'demo' app in the market with a limit to sniffing only 3 profiles. But you could buy it through paypal. And today I've found out that this also could lead to app deletion. However i've bought launcherpro through paypal so I don't see why my app was removed in less than 24 hours.
What is your opinion and what can I do to sell my app somehow (i need my 25$ back that I've paid to register in google wrr...). Is there an option I could do put it in market without google deleting it like putting a disclaimer or something? The app itself is safe for the user downloading it.
Edit: If I put a link to this app here will this thread be deleted? If so, is there an option to promote it here?
Per forum rules, link removed
bponury said:
I've written an app that allows to hijack FaceBook profiles over the WiFi
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There's your answer.
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There's your answer.
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+1 on that
if it allows you to hijack fb you can steal other information from the users account so why would they allow it and put themselves into a legal bind for doing so
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There's your answer.
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So if it wasn't for this app you would be safe? No, facebook is ignoring users privacy and this app is nothing more then a good way to show people what could be the cost of not using secure connections. Of course this can be used in a bad way, a lot of apps can. Like sms bombing or phone number spoofing. But they are not removed from the marked do they?
Ethics
And even worse you want to get paid for it.
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Ethics
And even worse you want to get paid for it.
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Yes, I know what ethic is however we're not living in a perfect world and just believing that everyone is good and ethical so I can just leave my door open when leaving the house is not going to protect me against the reality. I believe in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_disclosure and this case is even better because FaceBook is aware of the problem and just ignore it. A few people are aware that there's an option to use SSL on facebook. In my opinion FB should just get it done right and force users to use it. It's not a problem these days right? And what is wrong in getting paid for my work. I've spent some time developing it. Security by obscurity is not working, really. Take my app for example it would take max 1h to crack it. It's not security it's just being to lazy to secure it. And hoping that no one would care to crack it.
sms bombing is not hacking someones account! you are just spamming someone with messages.
even if it is down to fb to let people know about security, the market owners can be sued for allowing such an app on the market. there are better ways of showing a person how unsecure a connection is without punishing them in such a way.
the secure connection is useful for public connections but some people may not want or need to use it at home so they have the ability to switch it on or off. apparently there are issues with some games on fb that are linked in with the use of the secure connection.
traumatism said:
sms bombing is not hacking someones account! you are just spamming someone with messages.
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People are killed for spamming in russia (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07/26/russian_spammer_killed/)
And what about spoofing caller id? AFAIK that things are valid in court cases in Poland.
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even if it is down to fb to let people know about security, the market owners can be sued for allowing such an app on the market. there are better ways of showing a person how unsecure a connection is without punishing them in such a way.
the secure connection is useful for public connections but some people may not want or need to use it at home so they have the ability to switch it on or off. apparently there are issues with some games on fb that are linked in with the use of the secure connection.
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I don't know how to tell people - secure yourself any other way. I know i'm devils (myself) advocate right now, but really do you think that forgetting about insecurity is a good way? I don't force anyone to use it in a bad way. But after I showed how it works in my house all my room-mates turned SSL on instantly. And they were not mad about it, shocked a bit but now they are safer now. Sure you can just tell people - hey turn ssl on and 90% of them will ignore you. But when you show them - look! i can see your messages that easily if you don't do it. Then they would listen.
haha! So, if someone got a gun and went around shooting people in cars to proove that they should actually have bullet proof windows and burst-proof tyres, that it's all ok, and not in any way shape or form, illegal?
ha. ha.
infact op ip should be reported to facebook
By nature I wouldn't go near this app. If its collecting other peoples info I could be collecting my own. Thats how I see it logically ... people always get screwed when they are doing something they shouldn't be doing.
There is a place for all apps in this world be they good or bad. You could always host a site and put it on there. I wouldn't go near it cause once again I'd be afraid of whats laced on that site.
I was just providing another point of view to the convo.
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haha! So, if someone got a gun and went around shooting people in cars to proove that they should actually have bullet proof windows and burst-proof tyres, that it's all ok, and not in any way shape or form, illegal?
ha. ha.
infact op ip should be reported to facebook
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So if you have a car that can be opened by someone who has a screwdriver wouldn't you want car manufacturer to secure your car. Buying a bulletproof car isn't exactly the same as pushing a button in a web browser isn't it? And you're comparing killing a man to posting "I'm a jackass on someones FB wall". But still, you can buy a gun right? Also pretending that there's no problem isn't fixing a problem.
And hey, this app isn't new you know, if it wasn't for this thread maybe you wouldn't know that people use this apps on PC's maybe one day you would find that all your mail is gone (yes, this app could be modified to work with other sites like this forum). And ask yourself wouldn't you be pissed if you've found out that anyone using your network could get into your bank account? Well I would. But most (all?) banks use SSL by default. Google does. Why FB doesn't?
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By nature I wouldn't go near this app. If its collecting other peoples info I could be collecting my own. Thats how I see it logically ... people always get screwed when they are doing something they shouldn't be doing.
There is a place for all apps in this world be they good or bad. You could always host a site and put it on there. I wouldn't go near it cause once again I'd be afraid of whats laced on that site.
I was just providing another point of view to the convo.
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Yes, in fact it needs root to modify iptables and send raw arp messages and I know people get scared when an app needs root. If someone is interested I could write here how it's done and anyone could write it. It's actually nothing magical.
I wrote this app as a project for my mobile programming class. In the first version it also sniffed for Gadu-Gadu messages (it's a polish messenger). But I sure hope that when and if this app let's loose than FB will react and enable ssl by default. Maybe other websites will use it too. It's just that easy to protect your users, I don't understand why they don't do it?
most people who do not want their details stolen, do not use public access internet. does FB take money transactions over their site?
google does and the banks do so they will have a secure section. fb may do this using paypal or google checkout or otherwise so may not need the ssl that the banks need. sure it still renders people vulnerable to attack and theft of other information but even so that information is very limited dependant on the user of the account.
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most people who do not want their details stolen, do not use public access internet.
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Yes, so other people want their details stolen? You are aware of the problem 'cause your "into computers" but out of 500 milion fb users how many of them ever heard of SSL? How many know that they are unsafe?
well with the amount of messages being spread on fb already about this i think more people will know, but to let people know only by stealing their details is pathetic. sure you may have made this app for a project but why give other people the power to do this. all you are doing is providing more uses for those who like to make other peoples lives a misery. the best thing that could be done with this is to let the website provider know how unsecure their system is. especially if you are aware of the issue and are bothered by it. i know i'd do the same. if that didnt work, sure i'd tell people about it but i wouldnt sell an app on to others so they can make use of it. not even for free.
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well with the amount of messages being spread on fb already about this i think more people will know, but to let people know only by stealing their details is pathetic. sure you may have made this app for a project but why give other people the power to do this. all you are doing is providing more uses for those who like to make other peoples lives a misery. the best thing that could be done with this is to let the website provider know how unsecure their system is. especially if you are aware of the issue and are bothered by it. i know i'd do the same. if that didnt work, sure i'd tell people about it but i wouldnt sell an app on to others so they can make use of it. not even for free.
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Sure I could write an e-mail to facebook, but this issue is known for years! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_hijacking I am sure FaceBook is aware of it. In fact they've enabled SSL only a month ago (maybe two months) but why it isn't enabled by default?
who knows. perhaps issues with other applications on the website, or applications made to access facebook. they may have left it so they can cater for other applications for and on the site. only they can answer that question.
anyway, he just showed the spirit of a developer and created something new
he never told anyone "hey go hack facebook profiles" or "sniff those profiles, its fun"
he just showed the possibilites of android development and did nothing wrong in my opinion
it's not his fault if facebook is unable to close a security leak known for a long time
yeah dont get me wrong blezz i understand that completely. but the argument was as to why they would remove it. legality reasons would be tne main issue. to cover their own backs as they can in fact face legal action for allowing the app to become available in their market.
I don't see anything wrong with the app.
It shows the flaws of facebook, and the fact that no one in facebook cares enough to do anything about it. But then I understand whygoogle would remove it... If facebook decided to sue for this google would be sued not YOU.
so it would be best if you released it HERE on xda rather than the market
Hi all, new to XDA forums and couldn't think of where to post this question, so i'm putting it in the general forum, but please let me know if it's the wrong forum. Anyway, my idea is to create a custom Android ROM for educational study for purposes. I plan on buying some cheap android tablets and then want to be able to "lock" the system so that it can ONLY run select apps, browse select websites, and email select addresses. The user should not be able to add or remove any of the apps/websites/emails an administrator installs. I was first of all just wondering if this idea is even possible on the android system or should I be looking at getting custom software done?
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Hi all, new to XDA forums and couldn't think of where to post this question, so i'm putting it in the general forum, but please let me know if it's the wrong forum. Anyway, my idea is to create a custom Android ROM for educational study for purposes. I plan on buying some cheap android tablets and then want to be able to "lock" the system so that it can ONLY run select apps, browse select websites, and email select addresses. The user should not be able to add or remove any of the apps/websites/emails an administrator installs. I was first of all just wondering if this idea is even possible on the android system or should I be looking at getting custom software done?
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So that they dont download anything: http://androidadvices.com/block-children-buying-inappropriate-apps-android-market/
I'm guessing this is going to be on a school type system? If so, the internet at the school should filter any inappropriate websites that they might try to get to.
And for email, you can have them create a new one for only educational purposes that they could use in the email app that comes with android preinstalled. I'm not sure how you could block them from sending to unwanted emails. I answered one question for you at least, I hope this helps a little.
Also, in Android 4.0+ you can disable apps that are not needed.
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Hi all, new to XDA forums and couldn't think of where to post this question, so i'm putting it in the general forum, but please let me know if it's the wrong forum. Anyway, my idea is to create a custom Android ROM for educational study for purposes. I plan on buying some cheap android tablets and then want to be able to "lock" the system so that it can ONLY run select apps, browse select websites, and email select addresses. The user should not be able to add or remove any of the apps/websites/emails an administrator installs. I was first of all just wondering if this idea is even possible on the android system or should I be looking at getting custom software done?
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All very possible yes. If you remove the play store and preinstall all the apps you want them to use thats easy.
Browsing the web even can be blocked at the router if it is indeed a school set up. Or you could create a firewall app that blocked any connections to sites that you didnt predefine.
And it wpuld be easy enough to write an email app that could only email to predefined addresses.
Of cause this wouldnt stop someone side loading new apps or wiping the device all together but wpuld get you pretty much what you want
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Full disclosure: I dont normally do forums so sorry if I do this wrong.
I purchased a Bluetooth Purification Mask named Atmoblue.
It originated in China. Ive had it for a few months now and it has bluetooth and there is an app for it but it looks like its taking forever for it to be moved over to English.
My question is how hard would it be for a person (or me, with no experience at all) to pull the basic functions out of the app?
For example I want to bypass the wechat login (cause, no) and basically get the pairing function up and running along with the fan speed and some of the auto features in the app and create a basic app til they release the full thing.
If any of you also want to try I can send you the link to the apk. Or if you would do it and require payment at completion how much would that cost?
In case you need to see the device just google Atmoblue.
Thanks again everyone.
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Full disclosure: I dont normally do forums so sorry if I do this wrong.
I purchased a Bluetooth Purification Mask named Atmoblue.
It originated in China. Ive had it for a few months now and it has bluetooth and there is an app for it but it looks like its taking forever for it to be moved over to English.
My question is how hard would it be for a person (or me, with no experience at all) to pull the basic functions out of the app?
For example I want to bypass the wechat login (cause, no) and basically get the pairing function up and running along with the fan speed and some of the auto features in the app and create a basic app til they release the full thing.
If any of you also want to try I can send you the link to the apk. Or if you would do it and require payment at completion how much would that cost?
In case you need to see the device just google Atmoblue.
Thanks again everyone.
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There is pretty much a 99.9% chance that you won't find anyone to do this for you. The best you can hope for is someone might give you some links to guides showing how to decompile and edit apk files. What you would modify in the apk file to achieve your purposes would require you doing your own research to figure it out. You can ask further questions along the way about the things that you don't understand, but there are no guarantees that you will get any useful answers.
In other words, be prepared to dig in and do the work yourself, if you really want to accomplish this feat. If not, get used to dealing with the app the way it is.
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Yea, i started researching the day I posted this. I've been reading and reading and reading. Ive gotten to the point where I now have access to the battery percentage. Currently, trying to figure out the characteristics in the device itself and the values needed to change each of the modes. Also, it looks like the app from the company is pretty much useless to try to use. Based on the code (from what I can understand after 2 days of research and starting off with 0 coding knowledge) the app has to use wechat to basically be able to access a server and then the server sends it back to the phone then the device. Meaning I can't just look in the code for what values I need, unless I was able to actually sign into wechat and record the log. Which I can't do since I don't have access to wechat.
So now I'm currently looking up how to write code in the programs I've found to write it and create a ui. Ive at least figured out uuids and figured out how to call up the battery percentage now. Only like 3 more settings to go! Wish me luck lol