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Hi all,
I'm a frequent traveller, I often change countries for business and/or pleasure and am planning a very long journey by car, from Australia to Europe.
In order to let my friends and family know where I am, I was wondering if there was a app I could install on my TyTN II that would use the built-in GPS, get my position and upload it on a website (but NOT using the Internet). Such beacons exist for yachts, they send once a day the exact position to the vendor, using GPS only, and then friends can know where the boat is. I don't have a boat I have a 4WD
Any thoughts ? I've looked online and so far I could only find apps that would use the Internet... Not very practical when you're in the middle of nowhere in Mongolia, I doubt there is free WiFi in Ulaanbaatar
Thanks.
Boags.
Boags said:
Hi all,
I'm a frequent traveller, I often change countries for business and/or pleasure and am planning a very long journey by car, from Australia to Europe.
In order to let my friends and family know where I am, I was wondering if there was a app I could install on my TyTN II that would use the built-in GPS, get my position and upload it on a website (but NOT using the Internet). Such beacons exist for yachts, they send once a day the exact position to the vendor, using GPS only, and then friends can know where the boat is. I don't have a boat I have a 4WD
Any thoughts ? I've looked online and so far I could only find apps that would use the Internet... Not very practical when you're in the middle of nowhere in Mongolia, I doubt there is free WiFi in Ulaanbaatar
Thanks.
Boags.
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How would the phone connect to upload the information then..? The boat-based GPS beacons transmit their position using a satellite transmitter, but that's separate from GPS (which is a one-way system). Your phone doesn't really have that capability, or any other way to broadcast its location or any other data, without using the internet.
Ha ! I didn't think of that, I didn't know GPS was one way... damn. Makes sense tho. Thanks. Now I feel like a tool
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Ha ! I didn't think of that, I didn't know GPS was one way... damn. Makes sense tho. Thanks. Now I feel like a tool
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It's all good man...the only way you would have been a tool is if you didn't come to xda to find out what you needed
Just relased into the USA market today. Anyone using it? Seems pretty good according to the site but its$ 40 for the first 2 weeks then goes up to$ 60. Just wonfering how it is.http://www.navigon.com/portal/us/produkte/navigationssoftware/mobile_navigator_iphone_us.html the link is for the iphone but i guess they havnt updated the site.
Their support made me not want to ever buy another device from them.
why use that google maps is better
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why use that google maps is better
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Based on my experience with the app on my 3gS, the advantage to this would be having the maps stored locally on the phone. Therefore you have some level of dead reckoning and aren't relying on your data connection to supply map data. AFAIK, gps is way more reliable connection wise than data. So with this app even if you have poor or no signal, the app can still work if there's gps.
What was there spport like?
I really would like to have lane assistance wich as far as i know google does not...neither does sprint.
I bought NAVIGON and their support SUCK. Don't waste your money. Their app sucks too.
DeathBySnuggles said:
Based on my experience with the app on my 3gS, the advantage to this would be having the maps stored locally on the phone. Therefore you have some level of dead reckoning and aren't relying on your data connection to supply map data. AFAIK, gps is way more reliable connection wise than data. So with this app even if you have poor or no signal, the app can still work if there's gps.
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i had this exact problem with my touch pro a couple summers ago. we were on a roadtrip through wyoming and had no cell connection. luckily i loaded up tomtom and cruised on.
it's just nice to have a backup in case googley maps fails ya
Yea ill keep my 60 google nav has never failed me
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CheesyNutz said:
Yea ill keep my 60 google nav has never failed me
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Ya, if you are traveling local that's probably not an issue, but if you are traveling across states - it's likely that you will hit dead spots in your 3g or 1x coverage even and that means no google maps.
I really loved Navigon on IOS so when it was announced that it has been updated for Honeycomb I broke down and spent $40. Well, not only do I get frequent force closes I also can not locate the Options menu. I just deleted and reinstalled it, waiting for all the downloads to finish. Has anyone been successful with Navigon on their Transformer?
AnyMal said:
I really loved Navigon on IOS so when it was announced that it has been updated for Honeycomb I broke down and spent $40. Well, not only do I get frequent force closes I also can not locate the Options menu. I just deleted and reinstalled it, waiting for all the downloads to finish. Has anyone been successful with Navigon on their Transformer?
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Maybe you should cancel the order and get a refund until somebody confirms it's working ;P
Itaintrite said:
Maybe you should cancel the order and get a refund until somebody confirms it's working ;P
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How do I do that?
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How do I do that?
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Contact Navigon customer service and tell them the problems your having. They should give you a refund.
AnyMal said:
I really loved Navigon on IOS so when it was announced that it has been updated for Honeycomb I broke down and spent $40. Well, not only do I get frequent force closes I also can not locate the Options menu. I just deleted and reinstalled it, waiting for all the downloads to finish. Has anyone been successful with Navigon on their Transformer?
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Google Maps navigation? I sure did. It works spectacularly, and its FREE.
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Google Maps navigation? I sure did. It works spectacularly, and its FREE.
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Google Maps require an internet connection to download the maps. Navigon stores all maps locally so you can use it anywhere you can get a GPS signal.
Itaintrite said:
Google Maps require an internet connection to download the maps. Navigon stores all maps locally so you can use it anywhere you can get a GPS signal.
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I bought CoPilot a while back for $5. Google Maps still beats the pants off it (not surprising, IMNSHO it's better still than my standalone Navigon), but I've got CoPilot installed as a backup for when i'm out of signal. Works just fine on the Transformer as well.
silenceforus said:
Google Maps navigation? I sure did. It works spectacularly, and its FREE.
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I can't always rely on a strong connection when I travel through rural areas, hence why I chose Navigon.
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I can't always rely on a strong connection when I travel through rural areas, hence why I chose Navigon.
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OOoooooh. I didn't even consider the option of having a fully downloaded app. It'd be cool if google would allow an app that we could pay for, for a fully downloaded app. Perhaps someone could hack the app to do this?
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OOoooooh. I didn't even consider the option of having a fully downloaded app. It'd be cool if google would allow an app that we could pay for, for a fully downloaded app. Perhaps someone could hack the app to do this?
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I don't know why Google hasn't thought/allowed that. There are hacks to pre-cache maps but they are cumbersome and don't always work well.
Cant get Navigon to work I get force closed when I start the app to bad I love it on my Nexus S
Does anyone try iGo in that resolution ?
ConstantineXVI said:
I bought CoPilot a while back for $5. Google Maps still beats the pants off it (not surprising, IMNSHO it's better still than my standalone Navigon), but I've got CoPilot installed as a backup for when i'm out of signal. Works just fine on the Transformer as well.
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Same here, I bought CoPilot for my Nexus One and find it work well on the TF.
I still prefer Google Map over it unless I need to use it.
I did try Google Map tile catching on the tablet and it work well.
shumar said:
Does anyone try iGo in that resolution ?
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I have motonav Nav N Go 8.4.2.11 running with resolution 800 x 480 only, so it only a portion of the screen, but it work good, and utilized the GPS well, I wish they have a xoom version coming soon.
I'll just second the Google Navigation. I tried it a couple of times and it worked great. It wasn't really a reason for me to buy the Tablet, just added value.
google maps is a completely different app.
for me, I use CoPilot live, IMO it's the best out there right now (even speaks street names!) that has full Canada and US Maps.
Google maps is good for taking a quick peek at where you are going. I only have my GPS on when I go cross border, so if I were to stream maps off google's servers over my 3G connection, I would get dry anal raped by my bill.
I'm also using copilot and so far it is great. My old TomTom is falling apart so I need a new gps anyway, so this will keeping me from buying another gadget. I've never seen a gps unit that is as fast as the TF is running copilot.
co-pilot
n25philly said:
I'm also using copilot and so far it is great. My old TomTom is falling apart so I need a new gps anyway, so this will keeping me from buying another gadget. I've never seen a gps unit that is as fast as the TF is running copilot.
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I have the North American version of co-pilot on my nexus s and love it. How did you get it working on your eee pad? It wants me to pay for it again.
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I have the North American version of co-pilot on my nexus s and love it. How did you get it working on your eee pad? It wants me to pay for it again.
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You can use the same receipt number and access code to authorize the TF as you did on your phone. That is how i was able to use it on both my Captivate and TF.
The amazon appstore has some kind of navigation app for free today. Might be worth checking out.
Well is obvious. Since it's qhd i can't use igo anymore, so what do you use (besides maps and htc locations)
I'm in the USA and the T-Mobile version comes with "TeleNav GPS" I don't know if it's available where you are but here is the LINK
nccu_eagles said:
I'm in the USA and the T-Mobile version comes with "TeleNav GPS" I don't know if it's available where you are but here is the LINK
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thanks but not working in Romania
so Sygic - crashes due incompatibility with Adreno220
Maps with Global navigation I can't install because root is missing
Igo no qhd support.
Remains Copilot and Navigon
Copilot. Blah blah blah 10 chars
Co-pilot works flawless in mine.
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nccu_eagles said:
I'm in the USA and the T-Mobile version comes with "TeleNav GPS" I don't know if it's available where you are but here is the LINK
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correct me if im wrong but dont you have to pay for the telenav service?
Google navigation doesn't work internationally?
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google navigation works great for me.
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Scoop24 said:
google navigation works great for me.
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yeah, i use google navigation on mine and it works pretty good
+1 Google.
baadnewz said:
thanks but not working in Romania
so Sygic - crashes due incompatibility with Adreno220
Maps with Global navigation I can't install because root is missing
Igo no qhd support.
Remains Copilot and Navigon
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In state, Google Navigation e mai bun ca TeleNav
nevermind
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piimp said:
correct me if im wrong but dont you have to pay for the telenav service?
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There are some premium features such as traffic camera alerts, real time traffic incidents and re-routing, speed limits with optional alerts, and lane assistance for $3 a month, but you can still get turn by turn voice navigation and local search stuff for free. I use it because sometimes Google Navigation won't lock onto my gps, even though I'm locked onto 8 satellites.
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Will HTC Locations be a possibility after the unlock?
Now I use google maps and nav because I am in the US. I have navigon installed as well and that is my backup. The backup to that would be the telenav of course. In the past I have used mapquest which is free in the market but I am unsure if you can use it across the pond.
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Google navigation doesn't work internationally?
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Google maps/nav works great wherever you are, however if you are roaming, you are looking at some serious data charges.
Thats why people look for nav apps with maps already saved to SD card, no need to download anything....
Also if you have ever been stuck somewhere with no reception or just GPRS, and waiting for it to connect, download etc you sure appreciate a standalone solution!
Also with standalone apps, you can add a lot of usefull stuff like speedcamera POIs etc, which I havent seen for Gmaps yet.
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Google maps/nav works great wherever you are, however if you are roaming, you are looking at some serious data charges.
Thats why people look for nav apps with maps already saved to SD card, no need to download anything....
Also if you have ever been stuck somewhere with no reception or just GPRS, and waiting for it to connect, download etc you sure appreciate a standalone solution!
Also with standalone apps, you can add a lot of usefull stuff like speedcamera POIs etc, which I havent seen for Gmaps yet.
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Google Maps has POI. Just search for whatever you want. There's also Places, which is part of Google. But I haven't seen speed cams in Google. Someone else may correct me on that.
So far I haven't found one perfect solution for offline walking and driving nav. Gaia is online, and also allows downloading user definable map segments for offline. However, it doesn't seem to do any sort of intelligent routing.
I've also used CoPilot, but it's very mixed. It is offline, but US maps are not so great. Don't know about international maps. The UI to me is a bit cartoonish.
If Google would add the ability to download user definable map sections it would be a major advantage.
I'd really like to try Locations, but at this point that seems unlikely for US phones.
Regarding roaming when traveling abroad I buy a local SIM whenever possible. Can be a major saving, and works well. Can take some effort to find a good deal, and get everything set up, but if you are in a country long enough it can be very worthwhile. I got a 3G data SIM in Paris last year that was unlimited for under 20 Euros for a month. Used 3G all over the city and it worked great.
BEST GPS in the world!
I only use WAZE (http://waze.com ) it works great on the Sensation, full screen no issues and it has live traffic updates, multiple routes and its free
a4ol said:
BEST GPS in the world!
I only use WAZE (http://waze.com ) it works great on the Sensation, full screen no issues and it has live traffic updates, multiple routes and its free
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Interesting concept, but a few weaknesses pop up right off.
Doesn't look like it's got hardly any maps outside US and Canada. Just checked a couple of spots in my neighborhood and there are map errors that are years old. Also, appears to require data access. Does it do walking routes with compass?
samnada said:
Google Maps has POI. Just search for whatever you want. There's also Places, which is part of Google. But I haven't seen speed cams in Google.
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In my original post "speedcamera POIs" was meant as one thing. ie a POI for speed cameras, not speedcameras AND POIs.
Although agree with you that the Places, and other POIs in GMaps is great, and I do miss it while traveling and not using a data connection.
My wife and are are headed to New Orleans this week (From STL).
Today, just for a test, I took out my note and tried the GPS. I was under the assumption that maps would load, and the GPS would give us location. I was wrong. It seems you have to do available offline in Google Maps.
The problem is, it only lets me capture a VERY small section of the map.
Are there other map applications that I could use with the GPS for this trip that are available offline?
Open Street Maps
Look for Open Street Maps based mapping apps in the Play Store. They use offline maps.
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My wife and are are headed to New Orleans this week (From STL).
Today, just for a test, I took out my note and tried the GPS. I was under the assumption that maps would load, and the GPS would give us location. I was wrong. It seems you have to do available offline in Google Maps.
The problem is, it only lets me capture a VERY small section of the map.
Are there other map applications that I could use with the GPS for this trip that are available offline?
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Get navfree usa. Its free. Download state maps. Offline route calculation. No crashes on note 10.1
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I would suggest Sygic.
Doesn't Google maps let you save maps for offline use?
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My wife and are are headed to New Orleans this week (From STL).
Today, just for a test, I took out my note and tried the GPS. I was under the assumption that maps would load, and the GPS would give us location. I was wrong. It seems you have to do available offline in Google Maps.
The problem is, it only lets me capture a VERY small section of the map.
Are there other map applications that I could use with the GPS for this trip that are available offline?
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you can capture multiple small sections and they'll be under "my places". since i haven't tested it on a trip that crosses multiple sections i'm not sure how seamless it works across them.
First, I don't know if you noticed but the offline mode capture area can be adjusted. Use the two finger zoom method to zoom out to capture more in one shot. Your maximum capture area is limited to 86 MB. From my experience this allows a fairly large area. About 60 miles wide. Just remember while the maps will work you will need connectivity if you want navigation to work.
To get offline maps with navigation I definitely recommend Sygic and comes with a free trial period which will let you evaluate the app before purchasing the maps. For free options navfree is out there but I have no idea how good it is. Maybe others can comment on navigation experience with navfree.
relldroid said:
Doesn't Google maps let you save maps for offline use?
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It does . You download and keep certain areas you need. But I am not sure if you can use it with only gps on.
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Co pilot is a good maps source.
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I've never used a GPS, so take this for what it's worth, but I downloaded NavFree USA the other day. After that, I downloaded their New York map ('cause that's where I live). It took a while to download that, but afterward worked great. This may seem ignorant, but I didn't realize you could use GPS when not connected to WiFi. But the fact that I could use this as a GPS in my car, with no data connection, was a huge surprise to me.
Of course, you don't things like current traffic issues, but having never used a GPS at all, I was pretty pleased.
Awesome!
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Co pilot is a good maps source.
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justauser said:
Look for Open Street Maps based mapping apps in the Play Store. They use offline maps.
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OSMAnd is a good bet - you could test out with the free version, even though in theory I could build a fully working version from source, the $3-4 or so is worth auto-updating from the Market for an unrestricted version.
It does have offline routing, however I haven't really "stress tested" it for accuracy.
Try copilot. I've used it a lot and found it excellent!
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CO-PILOT rocks
I have been a co-pilot user for a few years its awesome . You cant go wrong . the whole us map download from there server takes about 30-40 minutes and is about 1.3 gb if i remember correctly. You can also d/load reginal maps. I think they update them quicker and more so then anyone else..
if you have a issue they will respond back to you often same day but always within 24 hours.. you get what you pay for with co- pilot very though out app with lots of features..
Good Luck ..
Copilot may be great but it is expensive.
donec said:
Copilot may be great but it is expensive.
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Not compared to Sygic.
donec said:
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Hummm .. well that depends on how much gas and time you waste for getting lost without a accurate offline map.....
Giggles.
Hy Erica, you moved on from the A500 or just surfing the forums?
What I like with Copliot is you can install it on all your android devices, maps too. I have it on my Note 10.1, 2 Acer A501's, 2 SGS3's, and my 2 galaxy tabs as well as an old HTC HD 2( beast of a phone).
And I agree that copilot is awesome but here in Oz there aren't too many map updates...
We're the land that copilot forgot.....
I use navigation systems for a living. I flew for the USAF, and fly worldwide for a major airline now. In addition to that, I've used all types of GPS apps and dedicated GPS in many cities and places around the USA and around the world.
Co-Pilot isn't a bad app, but their maps are truly horrible in many areas. I would recommend Co-Pilot only if you are familiar with the area you'll be using it. I've tried it in many cities where the maps don't even have the major freeways correct. Epic Fail.
Sygic has a decent--not great--interface and excellent maps. Plus, they have maps for locations all around the globe. HOWEVER, their POI search is horribly flawed. If you're within 25 miles of what you're looking for, it works OK. If you're looking or something further away it can be next to impossible to find it. Sygic concentrates on form over function. Fail.
Unfortunately, I have yet to try an Android based GPS Nav app that I would recommend for use in an unfamiliar area. Even Google Maps has serious issues that render it less than optimal.
I would highly recommend getting one of Garmin's GPSs from last year, like the 3750. You can pick that up on Amazon for less than $150. Or Sears has the 3790 with lifetime map updates for less than $180. Easily pocketable and works great. Use Google maps at the hotel to decide what you want to see, use a dedicated GPS to get you there.
i can do both cant i . hehe
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Hy Erica, you moved on from the A500 or just surfing the forums?
What I like with Copliot is you can install it on all your android devices, maps too. I have it on my Note 10.1, 2 Acer A501's, 2 SGS3's, and my 2 galaxy tabs as well as an old HTC HD 2( beast of a phone).
And I agree that copilot is awesome but here in Oz there aren't too many map updates...
We're the land that copilot forgot.....
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Hi there.. Well i still have (kinda have) my a500. its a awesome device. I bought two nexus 7 tablets got it because it would fit in my purse. But ended up sending it back for a exchange because of lousy build issues. The replacement was worse. So i sent it back and waiting for a refund . Monday or tuesday im getting a NOTE 10.1 .. Bad experience with the nexus 7 i do not wanna try a 3 rd . i love my wacom intuos so thought this would fit me better.
Think i should buy. Well i have to get something my Spouse (better half so she says) tells me i do NOT get my acer back.. so im tablet less right now... boohoooooo
nice seeing ya over here.
Sorry if this is off topic .. but yes i USE Co-pilot in several devices as well. Also used to use there commercial version in work truck. Great company. as i said above...
Tom Tom is launching a new app this month with off line ability. This is the mapping software that I are in telenav