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Looking forward to my first Android phone and wondering... Will ROMs developed for the One X also work for the XL?
Not sure if I can give up on my ORD from my Windows Mobile days...
Mark
HTC Tilt 2
Jackos EVO 1.7
mawoods75 said:
Looking forward to my first Android phone and wondering... Will ROMs developed for the One X also work for the XL?
Not sure if I can give up on my ORD from my Windows Mobile days...
Mark
HTC Tilt 2
Jackos EVO 1.7
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I really doubt it since the roms and kernels are made for different cpu/gpu's.
Not to mention that roms will have to take in consideration the different radios such as 4g.
So no
Okay. I have to disagree with the idea that they won't.
They may not work directly, but adding LTE and processor support really isn't that hard of a thing to do ( as far as I am aware ). I'm relatively sure at some point, there will be a firmware cooker that will add those automatically to One X roms to make them compatible.
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Okay. I have to disagree with the idea that they won't.
They may not work directly, but adding LTE and processor support really isn't that hard of a thing to do ( as far as I am aware ). I'm relatively sure at some point, there will be a firmware cooker that will add those automatically to One X roms to make them compatible.
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Different processor. The LTE isnt the issue. Its going from an Nvidia quad core 3 to a Qualcomm S4 Krait dual core. Completely different hardware that will require different drivers and paths.
Perhaps there will be a hellraiser package of some sort that will inject the drivers that we need, and be able to use, but the short answer is probably not at this time.
Hellraiser! That's exactly what I had in mind when I was saying what I did. I just couldn't put my finger on it.
However, I do hope a hellraiser kind of thing will released for the two.
Yep, different chipsets...no way they'll be compatible out of the box.
But it's likely that the people making the roms will make a version for both AT&T and International. As they've done w/ a lots of other phone's w/ different chips.
There's probably be a US team member, and a Intl team member working on those parts.
I can only hope.
Thanks!
Thanks for all the responses... Really looking forward to this phone but may hold off just a tad to see how ROM dev goes. I purposely held off on the vivid waiting for some quad core goodness, so I am disappointed that AT&T is not getting the international version. But, I understand why.
Mark
vectorized said:
But it's likely that the people making the roms will make a version for both AT&T and International. As they've done w/ a lots of other phone's w/ different chips.
There's probably be a US team member, and a Intl team member working on those parts.
I can only hope.
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All our US guys, me included are buying the ONE X from the UK. I don't see the two phones ever being compatible rom wise (one x & one xl). fcc cleared the international version to be shipped to the US and can run fine on AT&T's radios. so It's a no brainer for me to get the quad core model. I can live with out LTE
rayford85 said:
All our US guys, me included are buying the ONE X from the UK. I don't see the two phones ever being compatible rom wise (one x & one xl). fcc cleared the international version to be shipped to the US and can run fine on AT&T's radios. so It's a no brainer for me to get the quad core model. I can live with out LTE
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I find it slightly nonsensical that people are buying into the quadcore hype when Krait is faster than Tegra 3, clock for clock, core for core.
It bugs the crap out of me... really. That means that just because of that the US is going to lose some major development. and I don't know if that's worth another $300 out of my pocket...
I think people are missing something here, because in actuality development will be split upon two different fronts.
The One X will be an EU/Asia HSPA+ phone, but the One XL will be used internationally, with the only difference between each XL is the radio bands.
It doesn't matter there's still radio differences and processor differences. It's a completely different SoC. That makes it difficult to transpose between devices(I would assume).
I'm thinking the One X will get most of the dev support. One XL has to many strikes out the gate. One XL will probably have a later release date its going to be releaesd to a smaller portion of the world population.
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The problem is that the world is turning LTE into a major clusterfuck of radio bands to support, there's already 4 bands for GSM, 5 bands of WCDMA, and something like 4 bands of LTE in the US alone.
There's definitely a mess of bands in North America.
Verizon: 700 MHz - and their phones are CDMA/LTE dual
AT&T: 700 and AWS - their phones are GSM/HSPA/LTE triple
MetroPCS: 1900 and AWS - their phones are CDMA/LTE dual
Sprint (planned): 1900 including G-Block - their phones will be CDMA/LTE dual, with maybe one CDMA/Wimax/LTE hotspot
Note that the Verizon and AT&T 700 MHz LTE service is on different channels in 700 MHz, so they will not be compatible. Hooray.
Globally, LTE is expected be deployed on 38 different radio bands.
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All our US guys, me included are buying the ONE X from the UK. I don't see the two phones ever being compatible rom wise (one x & one xl). fcc cleared the international version to be shipped to the US and can run fine on AT&T's radios. so It's a no brainer for me to get the quad core model. I can live with out LTE
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If you're concerned about the lack of development (and dont care about LTE) this is the way to go. The X and XL will both be popular here at XDA, but for those of you that want the most popular/supported device you might want to think about the One X.
And yes, most One X chefs will eventually whip up an XL version of their build but my guess is it wont be right away..
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Are the people who are getting the X instead of the XL buying it unlocked? Because I would get the X and sacrifice LTE if I can get it for the same price. My contract is over in May so I was going to use my upgrade on this.
milkytron said:
Are the people who are getting the X instead of the XL buying it unlocked? Because I would get the X and sacrifice LTE if I can get it for the same price. My contract is over in May so I was going to use my upgrade on this.
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We will be buying them unlocked. It won't be the same price. The AT&T One X will be at least $549.99 off contract. The lowest price I have seen for the International T3 One X is $675.50 from Negri Electronics.
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ZeroRilix said:
We will be buying them unlocked. It won't be the same price. The AT&T One X will be at least $549.99 off contract. The lowest price I have seen for the International T3 One X is $675.50 from Negri Electronics.
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You are right. One XL will be a lot cheaper than the One X. One X want be in the 550.00 range until 3-4 months after release.
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NardVa said:
You are right. One XL will be a lot cheaper than the One X. One X want be in the 550.00 range until 3-4 months after release.
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I'd be willing to bet that the AT&T XL will be at least $650 off contract. That's what the Galaxy Note costs, and the XL is a better device.
Has anybody heard any rumors that T-Mobile might get the black version of the HTC One S? It looks much better IMO and I'm tempted to wait rather than buy the gradient blue version right now.
Yes, several people have heard from T-Mobile reps that it is coming in June. That is subject to change, of course. My T-Mobile rep told me it is coming, but did not mention a date.
Hawkee said:
Has anybody heard any rumors that T-Mobile might get the black version of the HTC One S? It looks much better IMO and I'm tempted to wait rather than buy the gradient blue version right now.
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Supposedly next month
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I just hope they were able to fix the chipping problem some people have experienced on the international version.
Hawkee said:
Has anybody heard any rumors that T-Mobile might get the black version of the HTC One S? It looks much better IMO and I'm tempted to wait rather than buy the gradient blue version right now.
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You do understand that T-Mobile exists outside US? There is a thread saying same thing and requesting people to keep that in mind to avoid confusion but people still keep posting assuming tombile is a US thing.
chem.manish said:
You do understand that T-Mobile exists outside US? There is a thread saying same thing and requesting people to keep that in mind to avoid confusion but people still keep posting assuming tombile is a US thing.
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There is no T-Mobile branded HTC One S outside of the one carried by T-Mobile USA. When someone says the T-Mobile HTC One S, they obviously mean the T-Mobile USA version as the only other version of the phone is the international version (unbranded). I don't see how this could be confusing.
Next month, that is IF HTC can get their phones through customs!!!
setzer715 said:
Next month, that is IF HTC can get their phones through customs!!!
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The customs issue doesn't apply to the One S only the American One X variants.
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I wish they'd release either the black or grey without the colored camera ring. ugly, in my opinion.
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There is no T-Mobile branded HTC One S outside of the one carried by T-Mobile USA. When someone says the T-Mobile HTC One S, they obviously mean the T-Mobile USA version as the only other version of the phone is the international version (unbranded). I don't see how this could be confusing.
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Did you see the the TMO shipped RUU _DE version here already?
What do you think it is for?
(For my T-Mobile Germany branded HTC ONE S maybe)
I don't mind the camera ring too much. I've got the Droid Incredible and it hasn't bothered me. I'd actually like to have a black HTC One S with the blue camera. That would be nice.
rootrider said:
Did you see the the TMO shipped RUU _DE version here already?
What do you think it is for?
(For my T-Mobile Germany branded HTC ONE S maybe)
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The T-Mobile USA phone actually has T-Mobile's logo on the front, not HTC's. It also has a different case with a separate piece on the bottom of the phone. It's a different model than the global version. That's what I meant. I should have said there are only two models, the T-Mobile USA model, and the International/EU model.
o0stryxs0o said:
The customs issue doesn't apply to the One S only the American One X variants.
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All HTC smart phones are included if they are running Android. T-Mobile just managed to get a bunch of One S's in the door before the date that the hold started; all new shipments are being held at customs.
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Also I saw yesterday that Telus is selling what seems to be the T-mobile US One S without the T-mobile branding. In other words, the blue/gray version with the extra cover piece at the bottom. Unfortunately, doesn't look like they will have the black for a while.
It'll be coming some time in June.
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The T-Mobile USA phone actually has T-Mobile's logo on the front, not HTC's. It also has a different case with a separate piece on the bottom of the phone. It's a different model than the global version. That's what I meant. I should have said there are only two models, the T-Mobile USA model, and the International/EU model.
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What is that seperate piece on the bottom for? The Canadian versions (Bell/Telus/Virgin/Fido) have it too. I prefer the cleaner look of the international version.
It looks slightly off colour compared to the rest of the phone. Stood out like a sore thumb to me.
The red circle around the camera lens is lame
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Reviewers said:
It'll be coming some time in June.
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Are you referring to the black version? because that would be fantastic.
If I get the black international version will it work with t-mobile hspa+?
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hopefully the black T-mobile One S coming in June won't have the chipping problem
MrMinh said:
If I get the black international version will it work with t-mobile hspa+?
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No. It lacks the 1700/2100 AWS band that T-Mobile USA uses for it's 3G/HSPA+ network. You would only get EDGE data.
So i'm intending to buy an htc one X international edition to use on at&t. I was wondering if i could use that phone on the $10 unlimited dumb phone data plan? I have been doing it with various unlocked phones, including tmobile galaxy s 1, and tmobile galaxy s2. I was just wondering if the Htc one x international, and the At&t edition had the same IMEI? Also for anyone who has tried, does it pull hspa+? according to gsmarena it should, but i just want to double check.
hashbrown95 said:
So i'm intending to buy an htc one X international edition to use on at&t. I was wondering if i could use that phone on the $10 unlimited dumb phone data plan? I have been doing it with various unlocked phones, including tmobile galaxy s 1, and tmobile galaxy s2. I was just wondering if the Htc one x international, and the At&t edition had the same IMEI? Also for anyone who has tried, does it pull hspa+? according to gsmarena it should, but i just want to double check.
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First off, this should be in the international forums since you are talking about that device. This isn't a forum devoted to AT&T, its to the AT&T HTC One X, which you are not purchasing.
Secondly, no, they do not have the same IMEI since they are completely different devices.
And thirdly, I would expect it to pull HSPA+ since I believe it is marketed that way.
Thanks a ton. and sorry for posting in the wrong forum.
rohan32 said:
First off, this should be in the international forums since you are talking about that device. This isn't a forum devoted to AT&T, its to the AT&T HTC One X, which you are not purchasing.
Secondly, no, they do not have the same IMEI since they are completely different devices.
And thirdly, I would expect it to pull HSPA+ since I believe it is marketed that way.
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You could have been a bit easier on the guy don't you think? Sure you answered his question but why so harsh? The guy has 2 post for crying out loud and both in this thread!
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Hi,
Now, if you are an international buyer and you thinking of getting the AT&T HOX, here is some information you should be aware of:
1. Do not buy manufacturer refurbished. Apparently AT&T are relocking those phones and you cannot get the unlock codes anywhere. Period! I have the HOX and all I can do is stare at it since an unlock code is not available.
I had started another thread on the same here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1841609
2. Devs are working on a method here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694553
If you are interested, you could act as a tester. Better yet, we should start a bounty for this...
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!l
You could of turned your old thread into this one
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Didnt think of that. Sorry.
Let me add a link to the previous thread
Good Info. Should be stickied
I'm using a unlocked att HTC one x ..in India. M I in Trouble too ??
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Thanks for the heads up!
I dont get what this thread is even really about.
AT&T One X is locked. That is well known.
Why would international buyers be interested in refurbed AT&T stock versus refurb other stock?
The exact same applies for importing brand new stock.
I doubt the typical international user is at all interested in buying AT&T stock new or old. They would be typically buying local stock or from markets known to be open, eg everything else.
AT&T new = locked
AT&T old = locked
That is well known through the other million threads and blogs about it, how is this thread news to anyone? If they didnt find the other million posts and blogs, they wont find this one either...
This thread offers no new info its just a rehash on the fact AT&T One X is locked.
I think he is trying to say that there is no IMEI unlock for AT&T refurbished One X?
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why an international user would buy a US branded phone and want to unlock it rather than buying an unlocked model is what I'm struggling with.
Hmmm comparing with international One X, the ATT branded One X is cheaper I guess..
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Yeah the at&t is a lot cheaper. Plus for me, benches matter a lot. The quad international version is on the same level as the dual s4 version. And the s4 actually beats the quad in some benches....
briankariu said:
Yeah the at&t is a lot cheaper. Plus for me, benches matter a lot. The quad international version is on the same level as the dual s4 version. And the s4 actually beats the quad in some benches....
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The phone known as the AT&T One X is sold international as the HTC One XL in Germany, Hong Kong, Singapore, Australia, Canada and possibly other markets. In Germany and Australia it actually has 32gb internal storage instead of 16gb.
All of this is already in many reviews, blogs, XDA threads and plastered all over the net.
Users would just buy the phone from those markets if they want an unlocked phone.
The AT&T version being locked and only having 16gb internal storage makes sense to why you might find it cheaper.
It is not news that AT&T One X is locked, it has been very widely reported.
If a user confuses what an International One X, AT&T One X or a HTC One XL is they have not done anywhere near enough research to be importing or unlocking phones.
One more thread in XDA is not going to help those foolish enough to have clearly not done their homework on what they are buying.
It's like the users that come in weekly crying because they tried to flash ROM's for the international One X on to their One XL after the huge amounts of warnings not to do that. It's sad that people have destroyed their expensive phone but they are doing it to themselves by being lazy and not reading first.
Does 3G work fine?
sanchitgrover said:
I'm using a unlocked att HTC one x ..in India. M I in Trouble too ??
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i am thinking of getting unlocked AT&T version of HTC One X to India...
Arey you facing any problem with the phone...especially Android updates and 3G connectivity?? Please let me know...it will of gr8 help..Thank You..
I do a lot of research before purchasing anything....
@chaitanya if you get it unlocked, no problem. And if your carrier supports the at&t bands for 3g, you will get 3g
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I do a lot of research before purchasing anything....
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Aren't you stuck with a locked AT&T One X that you cant use?
twistedddx said:
Aren't you stuck with a locked AT&T One X that you cant use?
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Touché...i thought unlocking it would be a breeze
briankariu said:
I do a lot of research before purchasing anything....
@chaitanya if you get it unlocked, no problem. And if your carrier supports the at&t bands for 3g, you will get 3g
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Seller confirmed that it is fully unlocked ...have to check once i get it..
i think it supports... a friend of mine is using at&t captivate glide (unlocked version) and it is working fine..so hope this also works fine..
one more question...can i update the OS in unlocked phone..? i heard some one saying that the phone gets bricked if you update unlocked phones...is it so??
Shoooot! I just bought an AT&T HTC phone!!!
oh **** man
you scared the crap out of me :\
i bought att one x because it was 200$ cheaper then the quad core version
and i didn't care for the quad.
and it supposed to be here today, bought it from some one hope it's not refurbished
else my dad gonna kill me.
briankariu said:
Didnt think of that. Sorry.
Let me add a link to the previous thread
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Let me know which thread you want to keep, and I'll close the other one.
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I just received the HOX as a Christmas gift coming from the HTC sensation I know my way around the phone, I'm just curious if their are any specific things about this phone that are different and new in terms of functionality and hidden surprises? Happy holidays my fellow one x users!
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ThizizKenny said:
I just received the HOX as a Christmas gift coming from the HTC sensation I know my way around the phone, I'm just curious if their are any specific things about this phone that are different and new in terms of functionality and hidden surprises? Happy holidays my fellow one x users!
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One very important thing first. Please make sure you are aware if your phone is S4 (dual core, aka one xl) or Tegra 3 (quad core) before flashing anything. S4 is att/rogers/telstra (basically the forum you are in). Tegra 3 is the international version.
In the past, Canadians had what were referred to as international phones (gsm), but not with the one xl.
If you look around you will see that flashing the wrong firmware has been a serious problem.
Enjoy!
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One very important thing first. Please make sure you are aware if your phone is S4 (dual core, aka one xl) or Tegra 3 (quad core) before flashing anything. S4 is att/rogers/telstra (basically the forum you are in). Tegra 3 is the international version.
In the past, Canadians had what were referred to as international phones (gsm), but not with the one xl.
If you look around you will see that flashing the wrong firmware has been a serious problem.
Enjoy!
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Att is gsm
I like the idea of a sim card. Down with Verizon! Lol
Kenny, if you flash anything for the other phone, there is a chance yours will never work again. Don't be a victim
absolutelygrim said:
Att is gsm
I like the idea of a sim card. Down with Verizon! Lol
Kenny, if you flash anything for the other phone, there is a chance yours will never work again. Don't be a victim
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Yes, I know. I was just saying that a with a lot of other phones gsm is considered an international phone.
For example, TMo had the G2, which was cdma, and the Desire Z was the "international" (gsm) model. So in the past, HTC has a history of just the two variants being categorized that way.
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Hmm... As for hidden suprises, not knowing if your phone is the dual or quad core will really mess you up (as said above) lol.
The keyboard is kinda cool since you can swipe with it. That was new to me. It's also suprising how fast the phone is once you put jellybean sense on it.
Gotta use twrp instead of cwm.
Screen is kinda easy to break so don't drop your phone.
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Concidering quad cores aren't supported on Canadas network, I know I have the duel core model, plus it says it on the box , as for the screen break, I really gotta go get me a case soon lol
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Happy holidays.
As far as tips and tricks.
If you love Sense try VenomXL
If you love AOSP try JellyBam.
Those are the best tricked out roms with awesome performance.
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Yes, I know. I was just saying that a with a lot of other phones gsm is considered an international phone.
For example, TMo had the G2, which was cdma, and the Desire Z was the "international" (gsm) model. So in the past, HTC has a history of just the two variants being categorized that way.
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I think you are getting some things mixed up. Tmobile's network has never, ever been CDMA. The major CDMA carriers in the US are Verizon and Sprint.
The G2 had WCDMA, which is in reference to it's data and not the voice network. WCDMA is also known as UMTS and is found on many GSM phones.
Point being, GSM does not suggest that the phone is international by any means. Also, the TMo G2 had a SIM card (of course, this was because it was a GSM phone).
G2 = GSM phone = US Version
Desire Z = GSM phone = International Version
Oh, also to clear up any other confusion, the HTC One XL on ATT/Rogers/Telstra as well as the international One X are all also GSM and all have SIM cards.
tekkneke said:
I think you are getting some things mixed up. Tmobile's network has never, ever been CDMA. The major CDMA carriers in the US are Verizon and Sprint.
The G2 had WCDMA, which is in reference to it's data and not the voice network. WCDMA is also known as UMTS and is found on many GSM phones.
Point being, GSM does not suggest that the phone is international by any means. Also, the TMo G2 had a SIM card (of course, this was because it was a GSM phone).
G2 = GSM phone = US Version
Desire Z = GSM phone = International Version
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Ah, you are right. Thanks for clarifying. Sorry for the misinformation. My bad.
Edit: just deleted all that because I can summarize it in one or two sentences.
Some people have the misconception that gsm and international are interchangeable. I was only trying to address that, esp. Because its been a blurry issue for some Canadian users.
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If his phone says "AT&T" at the top of the screen... It's the HTC One XL. Dual core is At&T us version. Quad-core is international...
If he got an HTC one x plus.... Then I'm jelly lmao
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Megadoug13 said:
If his phone says "AT&T" at the top of the screen... It's the HTC One XL. Dual core is At&T us version. Quad-core is international...
If he got an HTC one x plus.... Then I'm jelly lmao
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There's not much to be jelly about except the storage amount
More storage would be awesome though... I can only keep two or three backups with 16gb, because they're like 1-2 gb themselves... Anyway, to the OP, Otterbox is a great case, and CM10 is an awesome ROM.
Jonathan_A said:
More storage would be awesome though... I can only keep two or three backups with 16gb, because they're like 1-2 gb themselves... Anyway, to the OP, Otterbox is a great case, and CM10 is an awesome ROM.
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But really, how many backups do you need on your device at any given time. 1, 2 maybe.
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Mine poops all over my bro in law's X+.
Just sayin....
But his isnt rooted lol.. but shhh.. let me enjoy my throne
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one piece of advice, flash a jellybean rom as soon as possible, it kicks ICS's butt.
Do not upgrade to software 2.20. If you have AT&T and your software number is 1.85, stay there! This was my first mistake and now I have to flash boot.imgs manually.