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I use advanced task killer and minutes later I see MP3 Store, and Messages running. Before I saw a few others. Are they set to start running in memory for some reason? Not sure if they eat up much juice, but I wonder if I can make a list of certain ones and disable their start up somehow. Is there a task killter that blocks startups?
same here we need something to block these apps
Messages is required to recieve MMS (Even if you use handcent or chomp or something else as your main client). We tried removing that once in the hero forums and it caused ALL sorts of problems and force closes)
The mp3 store is usually ok to remove though.
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Messages is required to recieve MMS (Even if you use handcent or chomp or something else as your main client). We tried removing that once in the hero forums and it caused ALL sorts of problems and force closes)
The mp3 store is usually ok to remove though.
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Thanks codemonk,
Do you know that setting in advance task killer is that says "auto kill level"? It is set to disable now, but what does it do? Thanks.
jeffrimerman said:
Thanks codemonk,
Do you know that setting in advance task killer is that says "auto kill level"? It is set to disable now, but what does it do? Thanks.
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I'm not sure...I avoid task killers as a rule (I installed one earlier to test something for an earlier thread and uninstalled afterwards once I got my info).
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/ - This should provide some good info on it.
The better solution, especially for apps that you don't intend on using, is uninstalling the app (there's a whole thread talking about which ones are safe to remove).
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I'm not sure...I avoid task killers as a rule (I installed one earlier to test something for an earlier thread and uninstalled afterwards once I got my info).
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/ - This should provide some good info on it.
The better solution, especially for apps that you don't intend on using, is uninstalling the app (there's a whole thread talking about which ones are safe to remove).
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yeah, that is a great idea. I imagine if I wanted it back I could just install it again. Thanks Codemonk.
Why do you need those apps not running? Android will kill them if it needs more memory.
Why are people obsessed with killing stuff? It's not like your phone runs better with 192mb of free memory vs 163mb...
it actually does, as well as lets the battery last longer since it isnt using as much processing power
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Why do you need those apps not running? Android will kill them if it needs more memory.
Why are people obsessed with killing stuff? It's not like your phone runs better with 192mb of free memory vs 163mb...
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Let the phone run for a good 12 hours. I was down to 42MB free basically idling and only using Handcent. Killed a few tasks and back up to 175 and everything is snappy again.
I don't like having to use a task killer, I didn't have to with my N1.
maybe there will be an app like Scotty for windows 7. I check and a bunch of bloatware starts on it's own. It's all marketing bs. When there is a nice root stripped down, with all the nice stuff enabled I'll do that.
download startup auditor from the market. great little app to select and unselect which apps you want to load when the phone powers up. only costs $0.99 usd
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download startup auditor from the market. great little app to select and unselect which apps you want to load when the phone powers up. only costs $0.99 usd
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So if I leave it to no apps, will it load up with 0 apps running? Will it also prevent apps from randomly starting after phone is already on? Sounds like a nice app.
Unless startup auditor disables the service there is a list of apps that will randomly start up at times. I went into the application settings and apps like MP3 store don't have an option to uninstall.
I have used task killer to kill all apps and within minutes some start again.
"thecodemonk" why do you not use a task killer. I have only had an Android phone about 24 hours now and got a lot to learn.
First thing being how to enable tethering.
I have mine set to "safe" and it auto closes things when screen goes black.
Make sure you "IGNORE" certain apps... like the clock or else your alarm wont work... I almost over slept
I have the following set to ignore:
Messages
Handcent
clock
gmail
Mort Music player
Fastbright
Check out the application "Autokiller." This comes with preset values (optimum, moderate, aggressive, etc.) so that apps will be killed off once your free memory drops below a certain point. This app works great, but it does REQUIRE root to function and must be rebooted to finish applying the settings. Also lists all apps, processes, and services which can be killed off manually as well.
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Check out the application "Autokiller." This comes with preset values (optimum, moderate, aggressive, etc.) so that apps will be killed off once your free memory drops below a certain point. This app works great, but it does REQUIRE root to function and must be rebooted to finish applying the settings. Also lists all apps, processes, and services which can be killed off manually as well.
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I've been trying to find AutoKiller, yet I can't find it in the market. Is it here on the forums?
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I've been trying to find AutoKiller, yet I can't find it in the market. Is it here on the forums?
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It is in market, search "autokiller". Requires root access, but I can confirm it is working fine.
Wanted to add that I am annoyed by programs that I never intend to use running in the background. From recovery I used Android Commander to quickly select and delete every .apk in /system/app that I never wanted to see again.
Helo guys saw this topic and was over at androidcentral and saw this article which talks about an app that would kill any app that autostarts.
won't let me post links as i'm a new user, but go to androidcentral and look for the article about the app autostarts or just google "autostarts"
using task panel to kill the "junk" like amazon and mp3 store- also any program that doesnt attach itself to things like facebook or messages - i use skyfire so i have set that to autokill but leave the "internet" running..
i also use this to switch between apps running.. having to hit back back back or even going to home then program list then finding it is a long process.. for example ...
i get a handcent message - go into the threaded sms- type and im done - holding down the home screen doesnt pop all the programs up - therfor i set task panel up to stay on my status bar and hit it then go to the program i want.
i can see in the application manager that random apps are opening in background for no reason. any solution? or i go for cooked rom... i hate lg software
It is normal in all phone with android.
I noticed that some apps had opened in the background such as Maps and 3D game converter that I never actually launched myself.
I figured it was just because after flashing it did a big update of apps in the market (something that p1sses me off is auto update for apps, especially Flash player).
I went to app manager and closed them all but haven't look since so I don't know if any of them have re-opened.
I cant see random apps opening on their own, something must be launching them...
i flashed the rom last night but no difference today. in the morning i was running 8 apps and the ram was 50mB free.
This is Android's normal behavior: If it has free (unused, wasted) RAM it will open a few apps for you, so you feel like they are opening instantly when you try to open them yourself. If any app requires an extra bit of RAM, the system itself will kill those processes automatically without any user intervention so you don't even realize that they were open... unless you install a task manager and start to mess with it by making it start them over and over again every time you kill them.
TL;DR: It's for your own good, let it be unless you really feel unresponsiveness.
Thanks. also my device become bit laggy and when i kill all is ok. But... i can live with that.
If found an app that can delete those useless apps that come pre-installed on Samsung phones.
It's called ''Titanium Backup'', and it can be found in the Market
I found it to be very useful, because some of these apps open up on boot en fill your RAM while not having any added value to your phone.
You can also backup apps as the title, ''Titanium Backup'', obviously suggests.
So you can backup files you are not sure of if they are mandatory to the system before you delete them.
If you are using a custom launcher you can also delete the TWlauncher.
Dude you are talking about one of the most popular applications that requires root access on the market (if not the most popular It's obviously great, no doubt about this.
I'm not a mod or something and please don't consider it a as personal attack on you, but let me just express my own opinion: I don't think this information requires a new thread.
I woudn't delete a TW Launcher since it's the only launcher with hardware acceleration. TB has a better option: "freeze" - you simply shut down process without deleting it. You never know when you will need it.
Thanks for clearing that up.
I was just looking for something to post because I want to be added value to our forum.
This was the first thing that came to mind.
No problem, every effort in our growing community is appreciated !
It is valuable to be able to remove the samsung apps, personally I removed the hubs because I'll never use them.
About apps that launch on startup and occupy ram: please don't worry about this, the android system tries to hold apps in ram so that they can startup quickly when you need them again, the system will move them out if the active app really needs more ram. This is why task killers really aren't worth the effort.
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It would also be helpful to have a list of those apps that can safely be removed.
I found that these useless apps take up ram again even if they are not needed. Though everybody says "android handles this perfectly" my system slows down considerably. I installed several always running apps and the combination of wanted and useles apps took up almost all my ram.
I rooted my phone and tried several apps , including TB to correct this situation.
I finally found a nice tool: gemini app manager. It allows me to disable autostart/ notification events so that an App is not reloaded after each fart from the OS.
It reduced my permanent mem usage by almost 130MB!
This makes my Galaxy R responsive like fresh from the box.
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any way to get those apps kicked out of RAM for the unrooted user...??
coz when i choose "Clear memory" it still keeps consuming lots of RAM
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any way to get those apps kicked out of RAM for the unrooted user...??
coz when i choose "Clear memory" it still keeps consuming lots of RAM
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That is my main reason forr rooting! And since it's so easy and has no negative aspects - why shouldn't i do it?
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how does one run Google Play Store from running whenever the F*&&@# it wants.
it only needs to run, when I want it to
This app is intrusive and a memory/process hog.
thx!!
haha yeah.. totally accept that.
its soo annoying.. and the same with maps too
If you want to prevent any app from running when you dont want them to, just install from google play "autostarts" its free, and there you choose which apps you want to prevent fron running
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the autostarts, I'm looking at isn't free. that's fine.
i don't have a problem disabling auto start programs.
the problem is apps relaunching themselves, just like Google Play, which runs whenever it thinks it needs to.
background data/storage change/app update/diaper change/my girlfriends has a hang nail...etc
this app along with others are ridiculously intrusive.
i control my phone, not google or some app developer.
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the autostarts, I'm looking at isn't free. that's fine.
i don't have a problem disabling auto start programs.
the problem is apps relaunching themselves, just like Google Play, which runs whenever it thinks it needs to.
background data/storage change/app update/diaper change/my girlfriends has a hang nail...etc
this app along with others are ridiculously intrusive.
i control my phone, not google or some app developer.
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Gemini app manager is free and controls autostart properties for app.
If you use it you will see apps such as the play store are set to run when wifi state changes, when you delete an app etc, you can change these settings so it won't start in such situations.
It helps quite a bit.
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mistermentality said:
Gemini app manager is free and controls autostart properties for app.
If you use it you will see apps such as the play store are set to run when wifi state changes, when you delete an app etc, you can change these settings so it won't start in such situations.
It helps quite a bit.
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Thanks! it is usefull for me! ^_^
Tried Genimi, it can be a little hard to navigate its UI but it has a lot of options. Unfortunately Google Play will undo about half of the autorun conditions you set the next time you launch it manually.
yes, i'm also using Gemini app manager, but as spunker88, mentions, google play will reapply it's settings, when it's launched manually.
once again software, doing what it wants...
i want know the google play apps install apk file download from android market ?
it runs in the background and barely uses any memory. it stays running so it can notify you if updates are available as well as to open and load quickly. its not really intruding..
i prefer to update manually
I don't recommend it but I suppose if it's really bugging you you could always try freezing Play Store when you're not using it. You could use App Quarantine and create a widget to freeze/defrost it with 1 click. Not sure if it's going to even work or how this will affect your phone so don't blame me if you screw up your phone.
no freezing...I'll kill it as needed...thx
This is another universal curse of Android.. And sometimes this crap calls itself a service etc to tryto skirt task managers.... This permission needs to be banned from android...
These apps are so small the newer phones don't even leave the developers the standard lame excuse of "quick loading"...
It's my bloody phone.. I'll give permission...
If your app doesn't work right or load quick on a dual core 1.5ghz chipset with 1gig of ram.. YOU DID IT WRONG..
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If your app doesn't work right or load quick on a dual core 1.5ghz chipset with 1gig of ram.. YOU DID IT WRONG..
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if you actually notice the store hogging ram on a dual core 1.5ghz/1gb ram phone, you are insane.
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This is another universal curse of Android.. And sometimes this crap calls itself a service etc to tryto skirt task managers.... This permission needs to be banned from android...
These apps are so small the newer phones don't even leave the developers the standard lame excuse of "quick loading"...
It's my bloody phone.. I'll give permission...
If your app doesn't work right or load quick on a dual core 1.5ghz chipset with 1gig of ram.. YOU DID IT WRONG..
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It's a core Google app. If you want to stop it, root your phone, get a custom ROM, and don't flash Gapps. The phone is set to use Google Play for stuff like this, and barely uses any memory at all.
Stop complaining, and calm down. There are just some things you can't turn off on a phone...you know...kinda like on a computer.
PS: You can set apps to NOT auto-update in the app store settings.
I want running my android tablet ( the tablet running android 4.03 )
... I feel the same of the author of the topic..
If i want an app to run, i'll launch it.
Those answer are all blablabla.. i don't want app in background that i don't use. END.
For me it can drain even 0,001% of battery\ram but it's not the point.
Tried both gemini and autostarts.. as today..
Playstore old worked, the new one reset all settings and always on.
Maps work, but if u launch it , it will reset something, and u have to terminate the app from settings,apps..ecc.
With root must be a way to bypass those stupid apps from get permissions ecc..
Chooo
Hiii
I'm having problem with "deasapearing ram" Every 2-3 days i've to restart phone completly becouse when i check in working apps settings i've like 40-80 free ram. in use is about 780-820 mb. it does not add up to 1gb anyway. So when i have so little ram to use apps are force to close, mx player, some ****ty family guy app even chrome is closing down. apps like app killer are not helping tehy free like about 10-60 mb. anyone noticed something like me, any advice?
I think it is the phone, I have the same problem :/
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I think it is the phone, I have the same problem :/
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yeah, but this **** doesn't happen to all m2. i hope this is software problem not hardware.
im not facing this problem, maybe reflash the stock firmware resolve the problem
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im not facing this problem, maybe reflash the stock firmware resolve the problem
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i did it already through pc companion suite. no help at all.
Maybe root and uninstall bloatware can help you with this situation
this problem probaly because of too many background apps
and one more thing .. linux based OS , ram always been used everytime
you can disable some apps like google maps or integrated apps that u dont use
I have the similar problem with my RAM. As 1st, RAM is always at 70% usage.
How can i disable some applications permanently so they do not run by themselves? I dont want to unninstal them, just disable them, is it possible and if it is can u please tell me how to do it in few short steps.
Second thing, beside other apps i have installed Facebook, WhatsApp and CleanMaster app. Every time i go Settings -> Aplications -> Running Aplications, there are these 3 apps always running. I dont know whats causing them to be opened at all times. I think if i open Facebook (for example) even once, it stays up and running in background even if i remove it from that Dock Menu Tab by sliding it a side.
Is there anything i can do to make this stop, and save some of my RAM free?
Thanks in advance
4.3 is the worst from all versions in terms of memory handling. On top of that it comes very heavy on memory foot-print right after booting up.
After booting up your phone has about 300 - 350 Mb left to work with. Open your Navigation app and your browser, and the memory of your phone is "done". The happy apps reshuffling starts, causing screen lag and app start-up delay.
When a phone app with1 mB in size was considered big, and 5 mB of RAM consumption enormous, than shuffling things around was no prob. Now shuffle a 240 mB Navi app out of the memory, and replace it with that 70 mB home launcher when you are done. Takes the same time and is the same, right? And users have no clue how memory is used, right? And if so many complain about memory handling? But still, Many will tell us "unused RAM is wasted RAM".
What can you do?
- Root your pone and remove all apps you don't need, diligently and consequently
- Greenify user apps, in particular those which you do not need always.
- Rethink if you need to be on Viber, Whatsapp and Skype constanly. If not, greenify.
- Access Facebook from a browser, ditto for other functions and apps where a website is availabe and mostly does the same
- When installing a new app always go for the smaller one that just does what you need to do. Not the one with all the function that you could need, and not the one with more eye candy.
certain apps on android are a no-no. For example, facebook (from what I've heard) and skype use lots of resources and slow down the phone. You should disable or uninstall any app that isn't of use to you. To check the RAM usage of apps and disable them, go to settings -> apps, running will show you current apps, and if you go in all apps you can scroll through them and disable unneeded apps.
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Second thing, beside other apps i have installed Facebook, WhatsApp and CleanMaster app. Every time i go Settings -> Aplications -> Running Aplications, there are these 3 apps always running. I dont know whats causing them to be opened at all times. I think if i open Facebook (for example) even once, it stays up and running in background even if i remove it from that Dock Menu Tab by sliding it a side.
Is there anything i can do to make this stop, and save some of my RAM free?
Thanks in advance
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Search for an app that lets you manage startup apps on boot. Another way is Greenify, as it unloads apps from memory.
BTW. Cleanmaster is redundant in my eyes.
Thank you very much, this helped a lot.
i've disabled around 15 apps, some sony crap and stuff what i know what it is and i don't use. still the same.