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First thing's first - I'm definitely not a newb.
My phone (Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA) is depended upon for work and person use. I've been playing with a lot of custom ROMs and each and every one of them has their own little quirks.
Because of this I have seriously considered going back to stock, but I want to be sure that I can receive OTA updates.
I realize that I can get everything back to stock via RUU, HOWEVER, with SuperCID in place, would I still be able to receive OTA updates? I've read that the RUU doesn't replace the SuperCID with the shipped value.
If not, how would I get the SuperCID back to the original value (which unfortunately I don't have - phone was bought used and already rooted) ?
Thanks so much!
You can get the OTA with superCID the RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery. You will need the stock recovery or you could Brock your phone
If you want to be on the safe side and rewrite your cid do the steps you did to get superCID but instead of 11111111 put T-MOB010 That should get you back on track
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Sinistra425 said:
You can get the OTA with superCID the RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery. You will need the stock recovery or you could Brock your phone
If you want to be on the safe side and rewrite your cid do the steps you did to get superCID but instead of 11111111 put T-MOB010 That should get you back on track
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So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
JWhipple said:
So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
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Yes it will!
Yes it willow replace the 4EXT with the stock recovery I have recently have taken my sensation 4g back to stock with the ruin and it reinstalls everything from firmware to recovery
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JWhipple said:
So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
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The RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery
Sinistra425 said:
Yes it willow replace the 4EXT with the stock recovery I have recently have taken my sensation 4g back to stock with the ruin and it reinstalls everything from firmware to recovery
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What about the cid??
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No cid will stay the same but that has nothing to do with how your phone runs that just allows you to install the ics custom rom because of the firmware updates needed to run them
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Sinistra425 said:
No cid will stay the same but that has nothing to do with how your phone runs that just allows you to install the ics custom rom because of the firmware updates needed to run them
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I'm thinking if I need to use warranty?
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Can you claim warranty with superCID in placE?
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Can you claim warranty with superCID in placE?
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you could.. but since you can easily rewrite your cid, why worry?
after u flash stock rom
1. Super CID will remain
2. S-off still remain
I can download OTA from server but after download finish it will not install with the error about variant system (means we modified software).
anardjai said:
after u flash stock rom
1. Super CID will remain
2. S-off still remain
I can download OTA from server but after download finish it will not install with the error about variant system (means we modified software).
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Are you sure for this? From what I know IF you install stock ROM from RUU, it will automatically unroot the phone, get back to S-On and of course replace your bootloader with the original one. However to be honest I don't know what happens if you install stock from clockwork recovery - maybe that way the bootloader will not be replaced and you will still have S-Off and root.
TO JWhipple: The Super CID shouldn't matter for RUU. However you could always change it back to your phone/operator version before installing RUU.
@up: not in Sensation. After installing stock with RUU, S-OFF will remain still. To get S-ON back follow this guide. I'm sure, tested on my own Sensation
What would be the right order to go with:
Do you start with changing the SuperCID back to the original one forst or would you first have to go back to S-ON?
SIMPLY TELL ME ONE THING
that can we have official update after installing the latest ruu with s-on and unroot but with super cid?????
thanks
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installing stock ruu doesnt change the phone to s-on or unroot.......but see the guide to do s-on then u might get the official updates
The ruu simply changes your rom to stock unrooted, changes radio, recovery and hboot. It doesn't change stuff like cid and s-off. In theory you can get ota updates with supercid and s-off. The only thing required, would be the stock recovery
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hello how r u ?
seems u got allot exp. in this i try to get back to my stock ruu rom after installing ginger bread arhd and pg53img 3.12 it stops and say error 155 what should i do to get back to stock
dexter93 said:
The ruu simply changes your rom to stock unrooted, changes radio, recovery and hboot. It doesn't change stuff like cid and s-off. In theory you can get ota updates with supercid and s-off. The only thing required, would be the stock recovery
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Quick question, a few guides to going back to stock Sensation point or that you have to downgrade the firmware and radio. Is downgrading the radio (and firmware for that matter) necessary before flashing stock ROM with RUU? I did it with the last sensation before sending it in for warranty replacement, but only because the guide suggested it. But next time I wouldn't do it if I don't have to. Thanks ahead.
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Quick question, a few guides to going back to stock Sensation point or that you have to downgrade the firmware and radio. Is downgrading the radio (and firmware for that matter) necessary before flashing stock ROM with RUU? I did it with the last sensation before sending it in for warranty replacement, but only because the guide suggested it. But next time I wouldn't do it if I don't have to. Thanks ahead.
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No it is not necessary. It will be required only if your device is S-ON and RUU version is older. Just remeber that if your phone is S-OFF and you want to put it S-ON again, do that after you have flashed stock ROM.
Hi there. Got a message on my phone to install new JB Update, BUT, my one S is rooted, hboot 1.16 ,TWRP Recovery, Rom stock 4.0.4.
I probably need to relock bootloader and flash stock recovery. I tried to find some nooby guide about that but no joy and after seeing that a few people bricked their phone I want to be sure Im doing everything correctly. So.
1. Do I need to flash stock recovery first?
2. If so then maybe relock bootloader. How?
3. Run Update. How?
Thanks for answer.
And merry Xmas.
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You need to unroot and relock bootloader. After you do this you download and install the update and then you re-unlock bootloader and re-root you want
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You can just flash the stock recovery. And change CID to HTC__001.
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tominozh said:
Hi there. Got a message on my phone to install new JB Update, BUT, my one S is rooted, hboot 1.16 ,TWRP Recovery, Rom stock 4.0.4.
I probably need to relock bootloader and flash stock recovery. I tried to find some nooby guide about that but no joy and after seeing that a few people bricked their phone I want to be sure Im doing everything correctly. So.
1. Do I need to flash stock recovery first?
2. If so then maybe relock bootloader. How?
3. Run Update. How?
Thanks for answer.
And merry Xmas.
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Are you in the USA ??
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How do you do that?
You can just flash the stock recovery. And change CID to HTC__001.
I am useing t mobile with 2.31.401 .If i will change super cid to HTC__001 will be save to install ota sense4+ update?
i don't think he is or else i would have gotten the same message of JB
regarding your phone, i would suggest relocking and unrooting, else it may crash...
i have the same question, im new with my htc one s and i got it already rooted and it runs on a viperoneS so i dont have any idea on how the 1st owner did it and i dont know anything about modding this phone. i try to look at one s forums on how to go back to stock but no luck.
info of my phone( the things i know on my phone)
unluck bootloader
rooted with supersu
clockworkmod (inside this program i saw 3 recoveries in the backup/recovery menu, oneS ics stock, oneS ics rooted, viperoneS)
my one s runs viperoneS 1.2.1
now i want to get back to stock rom because i want to update to official jellybean.
i hope someone can teach me or lead me on how to do it.
OR
should i just wait for viperoneS to update to JB?
Thanks in advance peeps
What's this talk of people bricking during the ota with supercid? I was under the impression that taking an ota while unlocked is a bad idea
absolutelygrim said:
What's this talk of people bricking during the ota with supercid? I was under the impression that taking an ota while unlocked is a bad idea
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It's usually not a very good idea to install an OTA whilst unlocked, there's a small chance it will mess up (higher than if it were locked). But what doubles that chance is if you have SuperCID, the new JB OTA messes up at least 60% of phones with SuperCID. I don't know why, since SuperCID is supported in the android-info.txt.
It might be because when you're SuperCID'd, does it say that in HBOOT? If a new HBOOT like 2.15 needs to overwrite the previous one, it might cause problems. That's just a guess though, and doesn't explain why it went smoothly for other people.
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yfcpunishment said:
i have the same question, im new with my htc one s and i got it already rooted and it runs on a viperoneS so i dont have any idea on how the 1st owner did it and i dont know anything about modding this phone. i try to look at one s forums on how to go back to stock but no luck.
info of my phone( the things i know on my phone)
unluck bootloader
rooted with supersu
clockworkmod (inside this program i saw 3 recoveries in the backup/recovery menu, oneS ics stock, oneS ics rooted, viperoneS)
my one s runs viperoneS 1.2.1
now i want to get back to stock rom because i want to update to official jellybean.
i hope someone can teach me or lead me on how to do it.
OR
should i just wait for viperoneS to update to JB?
Thanks in advance peeps
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anybody please?
yfcpunishment said:
anybody please?
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I updated OTA on a virgin device. I now want to revert back to ICS. So if anyone has a way of permanently rooting a JB device on S4, please bell me.
Recently I rooted a friends One S just curious before I start flashing if I go from a sense rom to cyanogenmod or vice versa, Will I have to do anything with Hboot or can I switch between roms without any issues?
You can switch between roms , regardless of your Hboot. If you're on a higher Hboot after 1.09 I think then you have to fasboot flash the boot.IMG or use flash image GUI, even if you're restoring to a previous ROM. Doesn't matter if its cyanogenmod or a stock sense ROM. If you don't want to flash the boot.IMG then you can S-OFF http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155135
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Thanks, thats what I needed to know.
I got a question regarding this topic:
My brother's One S is still on HBoot 1.09 and currently running an ICS ROM.
If he want to install a JB ROM, does he need to change his HBoot or anything else?
Because with my One X, I had to upgrade HBoot to be able to install newer ROMs.
Yes, Hboot update is required to install JB
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zakvoline said:
Yes, Hboot update is required to install JB
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thank you, is there an easier way than going back to stock and updating via OTA?
don't get hboot's and boot images mixed up
you can flash jb or ics or whatever on .09 and most likely will not have to flash boot images separate. that usually occurs on .13 or higher
i have .06 and flash everything including radios
obviously can't change hboots without s-oo
Well the update that hit tmous today have any effect on One S user who are already rooted and using a 4.2.2 Rom?
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mrminor13 said:
Well the update that hit tmous today have any effect on One S user who are already rooted and using a 4.2.2 Rom?
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No. You must me on the stock rom to get notification. You must then have a locked bootloader and stock recovery to actually run the update.
fbihawk said:
No. You must me on the stock rom to get notification. You must then have a locked bootloader and stock recovery to actually run the update.
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That's what I thought. I'm excited that I get to see it on my wife's phone.
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No. You must me on the stock rom to get notification. You must then have a locked bootloader and stock recovery to actually run the update.
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Locked bootloader? I have done an update before with an unlocked boot loader. Just curious. Plan to try this afternoon.
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SoTacMatt said:
Locked bootloader? I have done an update before with an unlocked boot loader. Just curious. Plan to try this afternoon.
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That's been my experience. Try it without if you would like. Can't hurt anything.
i am currently S-off and running viper rom. If I change my cid back to the TMo version and reflash the ruu so I return to stock, would I get the update? DO i need to lock the bootloader and S-ON?
I hav relocked the bootloader bt cn some one provide me stock recovery for cid 044 jelly bean
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Just so you guys know...i dont condone everyone to do this but it worked for me...
Was: SuperCid 111111 , Rooted, and S-Off running latest(before today) Tmo Us rom .
Flashed stock recovery, locked bootloader, ran ota update, unlocked bootloader, flashed twrp, flashed Supersu in said recovery.
Now rooted/supercid/soff on Tmo us jelly bean 4.1.1 ...
aegentirony said:
Just so you guys know...i dont condone everyone to do this but it worked for me...
Was: SuperCid 111111 , Rooted, and S-Off running latest(before today) Tmo Us rom .
Flashed stock recovery, locked bootloader, ran ota update, unlocked bootloader, flashed twrp, flashed Supersu in said recovery.
Now rooted/supercid/soff on Tmo us jelly bean 4.1.1 ...
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You should not use supercid for an ota there are many reports of bricked phones that way! change your cid to original also stock recovery is a must!
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That's been my experience. Try it without if you would like. Can't hurt anything.
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Re-locked bootloader and the RUU is working. Thanks!!!
Have you guys updated your phone yet, and if so were you able to unlock and root again? I just finished restoring the gf's phone back to stock but all her apps were backed up via Titanium and from Viper 2.0, which is JB based. I can't restore her apps and data unless she's on a JB rom, if I remember correctly.
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Could someone please point me in the right direction to where I can get my wife's T-MobileUS One S (S4) back to where she can OTA update it to JB? I've been around quite awhile, but am personally a Nexus user and am not very familiar with Sense roms yet. I've done a lot of reading up on it but am getting a little confused. I keep reading about the HBOOT version possibly causing problems? Here is her setup.
Stock 4.0.4/rooted
CWM recovery
CID-T-MOB010
***TAMPERED ***
***UNLOCKED***
VLE PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.14.0004
RADIO-1.08ts.50.02.16
OpenDSP-v29.1.0.45.0622
eMMC-boot
Aug 14 2012,18:01:48
I'm not sure what ROM my gf was on. First I backed up with Titanium Backup. I flashed the stock recovery with fastboot, locked the bootloader, ran the 2.35 Tmobile RUU (to get her to completely stock), ran the Software Update from the About Menu to get JB, unlocked the bootloader, flashed TWRP recovery with fastboot, and flashed the supersu.zip in TWRP. All is good, I have working root and was able to restore using Titanium. She'll be happy when she wakes up.
Is a locked bootloader necessary?
SoTacMatt said:
Re-locked bootloader and the RUU is working. Thanks!!!
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Did you try updating without re-locking the bootloader? I was able to update the last time (the security fix they pushed out) without re-locking the bootloader. I'd like to avoid re-locking if possible. I know I need to revert to the stock recovery (that's fine).
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ROM: T-Mobile Stock 4.0.4
HBOOT: 1.14.0005
Recovery: CWM 5.8.3.1
Rooted: Yes
I did try to use the RUU without locking the bootloader. It failed. That is when I did 'fastboot oem lock' and everything else went smoothly!!!
Not necessary to re-lock bootloader for OTA
I can confirm that it is not necessary to re-lock the bootloader to receive the OTA update to JB. I am on Stock TMOUS, rooted and with an unlocked bootloader. I suspect that one needs to re-lock the bootloader only if one is restoring the device to factory settings using an RUU. It certainly isn't required for a successful OTA update.
Here are the steps I followed (assuming you have the android SDK configured and the phone plugged in via USB into a PC):
1. Installed the stock recovery (fastboot flash recovery <name_of_recovery_file.img>)
2. Un-installed Superuser.apk to remove root. ( rm /system/app/Superuser.apk )
3. Rebooted the phone.
4. Checked for system update (Settings - About - Software updates - Check now...)
5. Chose to download the update. It took a while to download even on WiFi.
6. Chose to install the update.
7. Let the phone settle for about 30 minutes. It will not be as responsive during this time.
8. Re-install custom recovery (I use ClockworkMod).
9. Re-install root.
Once the update was complete (step 6 above), I did have a minor issue where the keypad was not showing up for me to enter the PIN to unlock the phone. I rebooted (hold down the Power button for about 10 seconds) and then I was able to get past that just fine.
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ROM: T-Mobile US Stock 4.1.1
HBOOT: 2.15.0000
Radio: 1.13.50.05.31
Recovery: CWM 5.8.3.1
Rooted: Yes
Hi guys,
As you can see in the title, it's impossible for me to upgrade my HTC One X to Android 4.2.2.
I recently relocked the bootloader, to hopefully succesfully upgrade my HTC One X JB 4.2.2 OTA update..
When I boot the phone, I get the notification that the update is ready to be installed, since it has already been downloaded.
When I tap "Install update", my phone turns off and immediately boots into fastboot, without being connected with a usb to the computer or so.
My question is;
How can it be that everytime I try to install the update, my phone boots into fastboot (bootloader)?
Thanks in advance
You don't have stock recovery installed?
Ota on modified phones is risky.
Are you on the correct stock ROM, correct firmware, s-off and supercid?
I would not attempt ota unless it was after ruu.
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How do I RUU exactly??
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twistedddx said:
You don't have stock recovery installed?
Ota on modified phones is risky.
Are you on the correct stock ROM, correct firmware, s-off and supercid?
I would not attempt ota unless it was after ruu.
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How do I RUU exactly? I don't know what s-off means, and supercid or something. Could you give some further explain, please?
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What ROM were you on when you tried to use the OTA?
If you don't know what SuperCID, RUU, and s-off mean I would strongly suggest you do some research before attempting to do anything else to your phone. Trying these things without a proper understanding could lead to you bricking your phone.
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timmaaa said:
What ROM were you on when you tried to use the OTA?
If you don't know what SuperCID, RUU, and s-off mean I would strongly suggest you do some research before attempting to do anything else to your phone. Trying these things without a proper understanding could lead to you bricking your phone.
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It's just crazy, because I'm on my stock rom.. Can it be possible it's because of the root files which are still in a file somewhere on my phone..??
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It's not that crazy, while you may have been on a stock ROM, having SuperCID and s-on while running an update are a sure fire way for something to go wrong.
But, if you don't have the stock recovery installed (you still have TWRP/CWM) it just won't work. Simply relocking the bootloader won't achieve anything. You need to make sure you have the stock recovery, but before all that you need to check your s-on/s-off status, and your CID.
Or you could just flash the stock 4.2.2 ROM that's in our development section, it's gonna be exactly the same as doing this update but without any of the hassle.
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It's not that crazy, while you may have been on a stock ROM, having SuperCID and s-on while running an update are a sure fire way for something to go wrong.
But, if you don't have the stock recovery installed (you still have TWRP/CWM) it just won't work. Simply relocking the bootloader won't achieve anything. You need to make sure you have the stock recovery, but before all that you need to check your s-on/s-off status, and your CID.
Or you could just flash the stock 4.2.2 ROM that's in our development section, it's gonna be exactly the same as doing this update but without any of the hassle.
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I already relocked my bootloader. I absolutely don't know how to s-off, still after 2 hours of Googling. What else?
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timmaaa said:
It's not that crazy, while you may have been on a stock ROM, having SuperCID and s-on while running an update are a sure fire way for something to go wrong.
But, if you don't have the stock recovery installed (you still have TWRP/CWM) it just won't work. Simply relocking the bootloader won't achieve anything. You need to make sure you have the stock recovery, but before all that you need to check your s-on/s-off status, and your CID.
Or you could just flash the stock 4.2.2 ROM that's in our development section, it's gonna be exactly the same as doing this update but without any of the hassle.
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Okay, so my CID is:
(bootloader) DEBUG: cid: HTC__E11
OKAY [ 0.106s]
finished. total time: 0.107s
I read somewhere that I have to change it to 1111111 to achieve SuperCID?
And I'm currently S-ON:
(ENDEAVORU PVT SHIP S-ON RL)
Ok well you're in the wrong forum then, this is the Evita forum. You have Endeavor so you'll want to find the HTC One X forum and ask again there, we have no experience with your phone here unfortunately so we can't really help you.
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You must flash the 4.0.4 RUU(HK、AT&T）first,next ota to 4.1.1 to 4.2.2.
elivastar said:
You must flash the 4.0.4 RUU(HK、AT&T）first,next ota to 4.1.1 to 4.2.2.
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Dude, you're at it again giving wrong advice. Did you not read the other posts? He doesn't have our phone. Please, you need to educate yourself before you try to educate others, you don't know nearly enough to be giving advice.
@cvv4HOX
Don't take this person's advice, it does not apply to your phone.
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I know he didn't have the XL,but one x ota to sense5 order is same as our XL.
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I know he didn't have the XL,but one x ota to sense5 order is same as our XL.
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That might be true, but are you experienced with his device and fully aware of any quirks that exist? I can tell you now that not even all the people who have our phone are aware of the quirks that exist for their own device.
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