Hello,
Just had a question. I sometimes receive "group mms" messages from friends with iphones who are on AT&T (i'm on verizon with a DX). It seems like the list of recipients isn't being sent along with the MMS. So it looks like a message that's directed at me, and not at a group of people. Also, this makes it difficult to respond to everyone that was on the original list for the message. Not to mention the fact that the individual replies from other people go into the list of text's between that person and I, and not into one viewable group conversation. I had this problem with an old feature-phone that i had as well, but just chalked that up to bad software. I've been searching here, on howardforums, and other places, but no one seems to know much about it. Has anyone else seen this, and is there anything that i can do about it?
Thanks in advance!
Hey djuniah,
I understand what you are saying. I have been having the same problem too. These are automated msg's sent out by the service providers.
I reckon, you contact your network provider and look into the processes. I did that when this problem was occurring and it was rectified.
Now, its no guarantee that you wont get another msg like it... but the network provider does his/her best to rectify it..
Hope this helps.
err, i don't think you understand what i mean. I'm talking about this scenario
Friend1 (with iphone on AT&T) -> Sends group mms to "Friend2, Friend3, and me"
Friend2 (with iphone on AT&T) -> Sees the message with all of the other people's names attached. When they reply, it goes to everyone in the group mms
me (droid x on verizon) -> I see the original message from friend1 in the same thread as all of my previous messages with friend1. When friend2 sent their reply, i see that message in the thread with all of my previous messages from friend2. When i want to reply, i have to reply to each of them individually, not as a group.
I called vzw and the operator there said he saw the same issue on his OG droid. I've assumed this was a network issue for a while now, but i was wondering if anyone had any solid info as to why it was happening and if there was anything we could do about it.
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This isn't network trickery, as far as I can see. It's Apple intelligently using the features built into MMS long ago to send a group message, have other iPhones handle that group message in a way that you can 'reply to all' like email.
Someone (Google, Go SMS, HandCent) needs to simply build the 'group' feature into their application so that it can properly see the recipients of the MMS as a Group and reply to all. If I go into the message details of one of these MMS messages on my Evo, I can see everyone that got the message... Now, the app just needs to look at that and do something with it.
It's very similar to Beluga... albeit not as functional.
Yeah, i had come to a similar conclusion once i started looking at the message details. If most of those texting apps can handle sending group messages, i don't see why they havent/cant build the ability to notice them coming in...
seems like a really simple and practical thing to have
Any luck with this issue>?
djuniah said:
Hello,
Just had a question. I sometimes receive "group mms" messages from friends with iphones who are on AT&T (i'm on verizon with a DX). It seems like the list of recipients isn't being sent along with the MMS. So it looks like a message that's directed at me, and not at a group of people. Also, this makes it difficult to respond to everyone that was on the original list for the message. Not to mention the fact that the individual replies from other people go into the list of text's between that person and I, and not into one viewable group conversation.
Has anyone else seen this, and is there anything that i can do about it?
Thanks in advance!
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Any luck with this issue? I noticed it works for BB users also. I have iPhone users, BB users, and EVO (Android) users on a Group MMS chat and it seems that only us Androids are not able to reply to the "Group". We can create a group on our end and batch text each user, but the messages are not received in their "group mms" screen, its on a direct individual one. Need to figure this one out so I can continue my "My phone is better than yours" war with my iPhone friends. Heheh.
bump this back up, i just got into this issue a few days ago, if i cant me sms agent to iphone in handcent would that do anything for me
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this is a growing problem for me, and for Android i fear...
of my closest 20 friends, 18 of us use Android, 1 blackberry, the rest iPhone... and the group SMS (really MMS) messages are common - PLUS - the one BB user can reply to all with their device. granted the BB reply looks like email the way it contains the whole message with headers in its reply, but still it can play the game.
i find it really surprising that simply threading the messages that come in to multiple recipients hasn't been addressed, and if i had the technical skill i would address it myself.
i am currently on an Atrix using Cyanogen's beta, and have an Inspire running the 7.1 RC.... i have tried both the native SMS/MMS apps, Handscent (though not recently) and love GOSMS Pro (though it seems to periodically send out duplicate texts for some reason).
i would love to find a way to thread my SMS/MMS messages with groups like the iPhone does so i can join these conversations instead of receiving any number of random replies from people and having to piece together the conversation. ANY help with this would be appreciated.
installing the vzw messenger app DID "solve" the problem for me. I prefer to use GOSMS Pro, but when i get a group message, i reply to it with the verizon one. However, now i get double the notifications from GOSMS. For some reason, it's pop-up thinks i got 2 messages instead of one (with the same content). This is far from ideal, but it does work.
what about outside of VZW?
i wish there was an app i could get my hands on like your VZW app, maybe its not perfect, but it gets you through the issue until something better comes along. being on the Atrix and the Inspire i'm with AT&T coming off an iPhone, and periodically having to go back if there's reason for me to play a role in some happening which is causing an unusually high number of group texts.
from what i can tell, Handscent and GOSMS Pro are really the only contenders in the platform-wide SMS/MMS alternatives, I'm surprised they've spent so much time focused on making their themes pretty instead of addressing this well documented but unaddressed issue.
has anyone else found other alternatives?
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I've been looking for this for a year. Today an iPhone user asked me why is that we cannot reply to group messages. She's anoyed because she have to forward all the messages received from Androids to the rest of the group...
Hello. I need some help with group texting on the G2x. You see all my friends friends have iPhones when the receive a group text then they can respond to the whole group.
Let's say person A texts person B, on person B's iphone he sees a text message from person A in his conversation list. Now lets say after that person A texts person B again along with person C,D,E, and F as well. Now on person B's iphone is a new thread listing person A,C,D,E separate from the original thread between A and B. Also, if person B replies to person A in the group thread then everyone else in that thread also receives the reply. It is sort of like a group conference call but for text messages.
Now when I receive a group text message from someone, I only see the original sender of the message not the other recipients nor can I reply to everyone in the group. My messages only go to the Original sender.
Is there a way to allow my phone to do this?
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Hello. I need some help with group texting on the G2x. You see all my friends friends have iPhones when the receive a group text then they can respond to the whole group.
Let's say person A texts person B, on person B's iphone he sees a text message from person A in his conversation list. Now lets say after that person A texts person B again along with person C,D,E, and F as well. Now on person B's iphone is a new thread listing person A,C,D,E separate from the original thread between A and B. Also, if person B replies to person A in the group thread then everyone else in that thread also receives the reply. It is sort of like a group conference call but for text messages.
Now when I receive a group text message from someone, I only see the original sender of the message not the other recipients nor can I reply to everyone in the group. My messages only go to the Original sender.
Is there a way to allow my phone to do this?
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Have you tried 3rd party SMS apps like GO SMS Pro?
MIUI has something like this. When you text a group of people at once, it keeps everything in 1 thread. I don't know if your phone will send out multiple texts to everyone.
See on the iPhone it isn't really text messages... (I don't think). Once you send a group text, it converts it to a data IM. It still shows up in the Messaging program, but it isn't SMS.
To do something like this strickly with SMS, you'd be sending out 5-6 messages at a time every time you sent a comment. If EVERYONE's phone sent a reply SMS to EVERYONE, it would work. But I think the iPhones convert it over to data.
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MIUI has something like this. When you text a group of people at once, it keeps everything in 1 thread. I don't know if your phone will send out multiple texts to everyone.
See on the iPhone it isn't really text messages... (I don't think). Once you send a group text, it converts it to a data IM. It still shows up in the Messaging program, but it isn't SMS.
To do something like this strickly with SMS, you'd be sending out 5-6 messages at a time every time you sent a comment. If EVERYONE's phone sent a reply SMS to EVERYONE, it would work. But I think the iPhones convert it over to data.
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That's exactly what it is. It's iMessage. It only works between iPhones. Guaranteed if the other person does a group text to C,D,E,F, B will see all the group members because A sent B the message using an iPhone and B had an iPhone, but let's say that C doesn't have an iPhone, they won't know it was a group text.
Annoying, but meh.
Whenever somebody includes me in a group message/text/conversation that has more than 10 people in it, my messaging app (Hangouts) splits the conversation into 4-5 different conversations each with 10 people. What i've noticed is that each conversation includes the same people but maybe 1 person different from the other conversations. Whenever somebody replies it puts his/her message on there own conversation with 10 people. But whenever the group message/text/conversation contains 10 people or less, it works just fine with no problems and I can see all the messages on a single chat window. Please help! is there anything I can do about this!? I never used to have this problem when I had Sprint.
Whenever somebody includes me in a group message/text/conversation that has more than 10 people in it, my messaging app (Hangouts) splits the conversation into 4-5 different conversations each with 10 people. What i've noticed is that each conversation includes the same people but maybe 1 person different from the other conversations. Whenever somebody replies it puts his/her message on there own conversation with 10 people. But whenever the group message/text/conversation contains 10 people or less, it works just fine with no problems and I can see all the messages on a single chat window. Please help! is there anything I can do about this!? I never used to have this problem when I had Sprint.
Receiving a group sms makes a different individual message thread become locked in an "unread" state even if no individual text message has been received. Reading the Individual thread doesn't allow it to become "read". The only work around I have found is to long press the thread and mark unread then tap the thread to make the thread into a "read" the thread.
This is not a critical bug but its an annoying bug. Maybe I'll have to root and slim my phone.