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use of custom roms if we have exposed framework ???

i have been using xposed framework and i wonder what if i just keep my phone rooted and stock and just install framework and tweak it the way i want about lock screen , navigation bar etc, what extra advantage these roms will give me , just asking

Only thing i can think of is the kernel, everything else can pretty much be done with xposed.

peachpuff said:
Only thing i can think of is the kernel, everything else can pretty much be done with xposed.
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But you can still flash a Kernel over the Stock ROM...
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0dBu said:
But you can still flash a Kernel over the Stock ROM...
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Right, i mean the question is kinda moot anyway if you're rooted you might as well flash a rom and kernal or just stay with a stock rom.

Honestly this really is a question you need to ask yourself. If having Xposed is able to give you everything you need then stick with it. One thing custom can give you over Xposed mods is the ability to have modifications or fixes to the core of android. For example in the past issues present in the stock Nexus roms have been fixed and released in custom roms before google was able to push out an update to resolve it. Also many more performance enhacements can be done. such ans refactoring code or out right removing uneeded functions. But in the end honestly it just comes down to what works for you.

MOTO G, custom ROM = Yes or No?

I have been using Custom Rom's for a while. But this is usually to bring a phone up to the latest possible Android version well after the manufacturer has stopped updating a device . I have been using Nexus devices so typically this is 18 months after a model is first introduced. Bit of a sore point with me coming from iPhones which get supported for much longer period. but I digress.
In the case of the Moto G. I question whether it is beneficial ATM to install a custom ROM? I have tried a couple, but have been quite disappointed up till now with reliability and performance.
So for now I have stayed with the standard Moto G Rom. Then tweaked it a little by doing the following.
1. Unlocked the phone
2. Rooted using TWRP (couldn't get CWM to work right)
3. Eliminated the Unlocked warning screen at start up :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548530
4. Changed the 3G data to H, H+ format :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2600654
5. Installed Qualcomm-optimized bionic and dalvic from here :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/4-4-4-4-x-qualcomm-optimized-dalvik-t2546120 (thanks @drfr )
6. Installed a new Faux123 Kernel, flcon_umts-faux123-kk-005u-signed.zip from here :- http://faux.romhost.me/falcon_umts/kk44/
7. From Play store installed the xposed installer
8. From Play Store added module Gravity box (KK)
9. From Play Store added module Ringer & Notification Volume
10. Installed the Apex launcher
11. From Play Store purchased Faux123 Kernel Enhancement Pro (couldn't find a free tool that worked!)
Result is a very stable ROM together with most of the little tweaks that I like to get from a Custom ROM. Plus everything works great. The current Antutu result is 19860.
So my general question, what is the advantage of using a Custom Rom, when for at the moment at least, the manufacturers ROM is fully up to date and with a few simple tweaks provides Custom Rom like appearance, together with great stability and performance?

As far as I know, the stock rom has a lot of optimizations for the Moto G hardware. For instance, its based on F2FS which is something the GPE Moto G does not have going for it.
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That´s exactly the way I see things too. Played around with custom ROMs for a while and then came back to stock + all the enhancements you mentioned. Just a note to the point 5 of your list. Optimized dalvik and bionic are already included in stock ROMs.

I have this way of thinking too. So just going through the steps 1, 2, 3, 7, 8 and 10. My phone is excellent.

drfr said:
That´s exactly the way I see things too. Played around with custom ROMs for a while and then came back to stock + all the enhancements you mentioned. Just a note to the point 5 of your list. Optimized dalvik and bionic are already included in stock ROMs.
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Thank you, I didn't know that, funny but I could swear that Antutu improved! I am still trying to decide if Point 6. Faux123 is really worth it. The 1.6gh/z over clocking is working and I am still getting two days of average use per charge. Can't decide either way really......

Same here, at this point, custom roms (non stock based) are non sense, since the stock is almost Aosp and updated as hell. Xposed is all you need.
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All you need is Xposed, Faux kernel and the optimized Dalvik :S
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Correct me if I am wrong but the stock roms from moto are equipped with the Qualcomm-optimized bionic and dalvik patches, aren't they?
If not where can I find this patches?

Soerdroid said:
Correct me if I am wrong but the stock roms from moto are equipped with the Qualcomm-optimized bionic and dalvik patches, aren't they?
If not where can I find this patches?
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1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48932223&postcount=430
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/4-4-4-4-x-qualcomm-optimized-dalvik-t2546120

Great antutu result. Mostly due to the overclock. CM based roms doesnt have working overclock yet.

Im far away from that 19860 antutu score, any tips? I installed faux kernel and optimizers from qualcomm and cant get even close to 18000.
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grahamgo said:
I have been using Custom Rom's for a while. But this is usually to bring a phone up to the latest possible Android version well after the manufacturer has stopped updating a device . I have been using Nexus devices so typically this is 18 months after a model is first introduced. Bit of a sore point with me coming from iPhones which get supported for much longer period. but I digress.
In the case of the Moto G. I question whether it is beneficial ATM to install a custom ROM? I have tried a couple, but have been quite disappointed up till now with reliability and performance.
So my general question, what is the advantage of using a Custom Rom, when for at the moment at least, the manufacturers ROM is fully up to date and with a few simple tweaks provides Custom Rom like appearance, together with great stability and performance?
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True. But its for now and that is because this is a brand new phone also with multiple variants like 1031/2/3
Hence creating a kind of obstruction for a successful ROM dev
Furthermore you don't just dev a ROM to get an Android update.
Its for the different features that people are looking for.
You might wanna try xposed modules.
Hell l0tta options there. Not for now but then for future.
Also then small little tweaks from other phones can be ported to this one.
There are just countless things that you can customize once you are rooted.
I had a Galaxy Ace duos CDMA which had no custom ROM.
But once I got it rooted my phone was so much better.
I had an extended internal memory with my SD card.
The bloatware that covered the small little internal memory was completely removed.
And it was so much faster and Functional with those rooted apps.
If that small little phone could do some magic with rooting.
Then this is a beast.
Half the new functionality that we get on the updates are actually the features of apps that work on rooted phones.
Wifi hotspot for an instance.
Agreed that in the current scenario its really not so useful but rooting your phone is a gift to yourself
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How you guys were able to use Faux with Dalvik? Faux only works on my phone with ART. If i try Dalvik, com.android.phone force closes all the time. I also have tried the new dalvik, no luck either.
And that prevents me to use XPosed, cause it doesn't have an ART version. And i really miss GravityBox...
Can someone explain me how to do it?
Moto G Dual Sim (XT1033) with KitKat 4.4.2

checked the system/lib in my motog stock(nongpe) and doesnt have all the files from the Qualcomm-optimized Dalvik & Bionic libraries so can I have the latest version links to flash?Thanks

tsimitsangaz said:
checked the system/lib in my motog stock(nongpe) and doesnt have all the files from the Qualcomm-optimized Dalvik & Bionic libraries so can I have the latest version links to flash?Thanks
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Look into system/vendor/lib
Sent. Really?

yes checked.. I need to have ( libc.so, libm.so, libcutils.so, libdvm.so, libqc-opt.so, libcutils.so) and I have only libqc-opt.so from these files.

tsimitsangaz said:
yes checked.. I need to have ( libc.so, libm.so, libcutils.so, libdvm.so, libqc-opt.so, libcutils.so) and I have only libqc-opt.so from these files.
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You do have all those files, they are not in the same folder. Just search harder.

intellq said:
How you guys were able to use Faux with Dalvik? Faux only works on my phone with ART. If i try Dalvik, com.android.phone force closes all the time. I also have tried the new dalvik, no luck either.
And that prevents me to use XPosed, cause it doesn't have an ART version. And i really miss GravityBox...
Can someone explain me how to do it?
Moto G Dual Sim (XT1033) with KitKat 4.4.2
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No one?

intellq said:
No one?
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Use this rom, stock, debloated, faux kernel and xposed. Clean and fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606943
[ROM]Nexus G+ Build 007[4.4.2]
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Alejandrissimo said:
Use this rom, stock, debloated, faux kernel and xposed. Clean and fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606943
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That rom probably won't work in my phone. I'm on an XT1033 (dual sim)
Someone with stock was able to make faux + dalvik work?

Worth to change from stock rom to custom one ?

Hey guys.
What's the gain of using a custom rom over the stock one (Assuming rooted stock rom) ?
I'm kinda lost in all the roms available , so I was wondering if it was really worth it
Cheers

CrazyKoala said:
Hey guys.
What's the gain of using a custom rom over the stock one (Assuming rooted stock rom) ?
I'm kinda lost in all the roms available , so I was wondering if it was really worth it
Cheers
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Depends to be honest I myself go with certain roms till I find things that make be mad then I go back to stock for a bit till I find another one so that would be my suggestion
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CrazyKoala said:
Hey guys.
What's the gain of using a custom rom over the stock one (Assuming rooted stock rom) ?
I'm kinda lost in all the roms available , so I was wondering if it was really worth it
Cheers
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Battery life (if coupled with custom kernel)
Modifications -- some brilliant mods available -- Battery Icons, Themes, Menu settings etc
Cause you can :good:
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Using a custom Kernel with Stock Rooted and a few Xposed modules can be the same as a custom ROM most of the time though.. So give that a try first.

I have a lot better speed and battery life using Hyperdrive ROM with Beastmode Kernel. All the Touchwiz stuff (pen, etc.) still works, so yeah. Custom ROM > Samsung Bloatware.
I get between 11-14 hours with REALLY heavy use and full screen brightness and overclocked.

CrazyKoala said:
Hey guys.
What's the gain of using a custom rom over the stock one (Assuming rooted stock rom) ?
I'm kinda lost in all the roms available , so I was wondering if it was really worth it
Cheers
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I have been trying custom ROM's and Kernels for many years..... I'm yet to find one that's worth the hassle.
Just disable the stock apps/bloatware you don't use and you'll get better { performance/battery life } than any custom ROM.
The only reason to use a custom ROM (IMO) would be for additional (required) functionality like additional fie system support etc.
I have personally had absolutely no good reason for the use of a custom Rom in years !.

I also don't feel like using custom rom over stock, I did many experiments with note one but with note 3 I would stay with stock rom.
Bloat wares are not bothering me, battery life is also decent so in my opinion leaving some extra utilities stock is better

Depends on which custom rom you choose. Some rom are good, nice and stable but others don't.
Sometimes I use custom rom because I wanna remove useless apps installed by carriers. If you find it not a issue, keep the stock one.

So if your phone is rooted then u don't really need custom rom isn't it well correct me if I'm wrong as I'm new to that android thing lol
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Aspl2000 said:
So if your phone is rooted then u don't really need custom rom isn't it well correct me if I'm wrong as I'm new to that android thing lol
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It's not a matter of "need" Hyperdrive has given me better battery life (even after freezing all the bloat) and has a lot of customization. You can do most of it through Xposed, but all the really valuable things are in it already. I never found one I thought was worth it until hyperdrive.
Try one of the ROMs that look interesting, if you like it keep using it. If not, that's what nandroid backups are for.

Aspl2000 said:
So if your phone is rooted then u don't really need custom rom isn't it well correct me if I'm wrong as I'm new to that android thing lol
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If u know how to tweaks it urself, do modification to what u need, no custom rom is needed once u r rooted. Basically, once u r rooted u can do all system changes, IF u know how to.
But, assuming u r new, based on ur post, just grab any custom tom u like nd try.
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Should I root my m8?

Hi all, I have had HTC One M8 for a month now and I just love it.
The only thing I would like to know that if I installed a custom rom would my phone function better?
I honestly got sick of installing roms on my old Galaxy S3, and every time I find something that I don't like in that rom or a bug.
Please help me deciding.

gogz2005 said:
Hi all, I have had HTC One M8 for a month now and I just love it.
The only thing I would like to know that if I installed a custom rom would my phone function better?
I honestly got sick of installing roms on my old Galaxy S3, and every time I find something that I don't like in that rom or a bug.
Please help me deciding.
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Just because you root doesn't mean you need to install a custom rom.
Rooting and keeping stock ROM will allow you to tweak the stock rom to your liking. You can use any number of tools like the Xposed mods, tasker scripts, themers, etc. The possibilities are endless.
I have always rooted and tweaked the stock ROMS until late in the device life when I won't be getting the next version of Android. Then I load a custom ROM.

gogz2005 said:
Hi all, I have had HTC One M8 for a month now and I just love it.
The only thing I would like to know that if I installed a custom rom would my phone function better?
I honestly got sick of installing roms on my old Galaxy S3, and every time I find something that I don't like in that rom or a bug.
Please help me deciding.
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To me, the biggest advantage of rooting is removing bloatware (apps you don't want.) There's no need to install a custom ROM if you don't want to do so but there are advantages to custom ROMs, several already have much of the bloat removed.
They probably won't make your phone function better.

85gallon said:
Just because you root doesn't mean you need to install a custom rom.
Rooting and keeping stock ROM will allow you to tweak the stock rom to your liking. You can use any number of tools like the Xposed mods, tasker scripts, themers, etc. The possibilities are endless.
I have always rooted and tweaked the stock ROMS until late in the device life when I won't be getting the next version of Android. Then I load a custom ROM.
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Very good point, I love how responsive my phone is, and I also like the way the stock rom feels and looks. Now I will consider rooting it.

xs11e said:
To me, the biggest advantage of rooting is removing bloatware (apps you don't want.) There's no need to install a custom ROM if you don't want to do so but there are advantages to custom ROMs, several already have much of the bloat removed.
They probably won't make your phone function better.
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So is it easy to remove Verizon pre-installed apps if I rooted my phone?

85gallon said:
Just because you root doesn't mean you need to install a custom rom.
Rooting and keeping stock ROM will allow you to tweak the stock rom to your liking. You can use any number of tools like the Xposed mods, tasker scripts, themers, etc. The possibilities are endless.
I have always rooted and tweaked the stock ROMS until late in the device life when I won't be getting the next version of Android. Then I load a custom ROM.
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I just rooted my phone using Weak Sauce. Can you tell me how to remove bloatware apps?

gogz2005 said:
So is it easy to remove Verizon pre-installed apps if I rooted my phone?
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gogz2005 said:
I just rooted my phone using Weak Sauce. Can you tell me how to remove bloatware apps?
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If you are keeping the stock ROM do NOT remove the bloatware if it is a system file. (Most of them are) If you remove them you will not be able to take the OTA updates from your carrier until you restore them. You are better off disabling them or using Titanium Backup to Freeze them. That way they are easily reversed so you can take the OTA update.

gogz2005 said:
I just rooted my phone using Weak Sauce. Can you tell me how to remove bloatware apps?
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titanium back up freeeze/uninstall

I used to crack flash back on my Galaxy Nexus. I had the M8 for about a month before I rooted and S'Offed. I'm hesitant to flash a full custom ROM as of yet because stock plus Xposed is keeping me extremely happy. For me, the Xposed framework and modules is such a great setup because it allows me to pick and choose which tweaks I want.

Was gonna remain stock till I downloaded an xposed mod that messed up my wifi (possibly due to having a feature another xposed module was handling turned on) . Instead of reflashing and adding all the tweaks and flash zip to a stock ROM, I went ahead and flashed cleanrom which is basically debloated with all the tweaks/mods I already previously had and wanted.
Cleanrom plus the xposed modules like sense6 toolbox, gravity box, XSense, etc make staying stock or stock-ish a very glamorous option

Sounds like what you want is some good old fashioned CleanROM :good:
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wtoj34 said:
Sounds like what you want is some good old fashioned CleanROM :good:
Edit just read the most recent post right after posting this. Oh well. You'll love CleanROM though. Had it for about a month (practically a record for me and roms) and I love it. Gpe is also pretty stable may try that it he future 'cause I heart aosp but other than that I see no reason to use anything but CleanROM
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I think that it was I will try, CleanRom. Thank you for the advice.

I'm loving the GPE rom
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Root It!
The Cyanogenmod nightlies are good - the 6/16 version did not have any problems.

[Q] Can someone recommend a ROM please?

I have been running Paranoid Android 5.0.2 and keep having battery life issues. I have trimmed my apps down and even re-enabled the SystemUpdateService for the Google Play Framework which doesn't help. The service also keeps automatically being disabled. Another issue I have is lack of xPrivacy on this version in addition to various OS 'quirks'.
What is the recommended 5.1 ROM for this device that does work with the newer versions of xPosed/xPrivacy?

xda15u said:
I have been running Paranoid Android 5.0.2 and keep having battery life issues. I have trimmed my apps down and even re-enabled the SystemUpdateService for the Google Play Framework which doesn't help. The service also keeps automatically being disabled. Another issue I have is lack of xPrivacy on this version in addition to various OS 'quirks'.
What is the recommended 5.1 ROM for this device that does work with the newer versions of xPosed/xPrivacy?
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AFAIK all ROMs work with Xposed except TeamEOS (bootloop) and Temasek (you need a modified version of Xposed). Xprivacy works well now on 5.1.

Primokorn said:
AFAIK all ROMs work with Xposed except TeamEOS (bootloop) and Temasek (you need a modified version of Xposed). Xprivacy works well now on 5.1.
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Is there a recommended ROm that does not add much bloat to the stock OS? That is why I chose Paranoid to start with. It is not stock but yet doesn't add a bunch of unnessesary things.

xda15u said:
Is there a recommended ROm that does not add much bloat to the stock OS? That is why I chose Paranoid to start with. It is not stock but yet doesn't add a bunch of unnessesary things.
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CM, Terminus, OptiPop... but I didn't try all ROMs so you should read the OPs in Android Development and Original Android Development.

Cataclysm. Done
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Ben36 said:
Cataclysm. Done
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Let the users make their own decisions. Cataclysm is closed source and will never include themes. 2 points for which some users won't flash it

Primokorn said:
CM, Terminus, OptiPop... but I didn't try all ROMs so you should read the OPs in Android Development and Original Android Development.
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Not interested in Cyanogen anymore. No real reason other than they got a bit big.
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Let the users make their own decisions. Cataclysm is closed source and will never include themes. 2 points for which some users won't flash it
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While open source is a plus and is preferred I can sacrifice if enough people recommend it.
I cannot seem to find screenshots of either OptiPop or Terminus.

xda15u said:
I cannot seem to find screenshots of either OptiPop or Terminus.
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Try by yourself. Screenshots are useless as long as you know what are the main features. You can apply layers or themes (ROM related) if you want custom UIs.

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Let the users make their own decisions. Cataclysm is closed source and will never include themes. 2 points for which some users won't flash it
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But it does have rro support tho
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+1 for Cataclysm, nice rom based on factory image!