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Hi!
I hope some someone can explain me:
Why is it obviously so difficult (or not possible?) to root the XT925 Razr HD without downgrade to ICS if you are already on JellyBean? I read a lot of things and there everytime the poeple wrote about the VoodooKeeper thing and the downgrade.
wemsinho said:
Hi!
I hope some someone can explain me:
Why is it obviously so difficult (or not possible?) to root the XT925 Razr HD without downgrade to ICS if you are already on JellyBean? I read a lot of things and there everytime the poeple wrote about the VoodooKeeper thing and the downgrade.
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I am also quite interested in this this! In particular, as going back ICS will require that i unlock the bootlock and loose the warranty (at least that is my understanding). I do not wish to sacrafice warranty "just" to get root, something that was very easily done on my old xperia (with or without locked bootlock)
I still love my razr hd (xt925) for lots of other reasons though!
You don't have to unlock or loose warranty to go back to ICS. You do however have to root.
IMO, their is not JB exploit so far because it is so easy to roll back to ICS root.... then use root keeper to hold root thru the update. So no real reason for anyone to work on a root exploit yet. Takes maybe 10-15 minutes if that.
clintonroche said:
You don't have to unlock or loose warranty to go back to ICS. You do however have to root.
IMO, their is not JB exploit so far because it is so easy to roll back to ICS root.... then use root keeper to hold root thru the update. So no real reason for anyone to work on a root exploit yet. Takes maybe 10-15 minutes if that.
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I just got a XT295 from germany just to fix the damned ril issues ive been having in my root call management apps. But it was running 4.1.2 out of the box, with a locked boot.
Am i right in assuming theres a way to root it with that RSDLite tool? I have never owned a moto device, so know nothing about this tool or how it works with a locked bootloader.
clintonroche said:
You don't have to unlock or loose warranty to go back to ICS. You do however have to root.
IMO, their is not JB exploit so far because it is so easy to roll back to ICS root.... then use root keeper to hold root thru the update. So no real reason for anyone to work on a root exploit yet. Takes maybe 10-15 minutes if that.
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In don't really understand your statement. If you're unrooted on JB, in order to root you definitely have to rollback to ICS... and this requires an unlocked bootloader.
So if you're unrooted, with a locked bootloader, on JB, there is no way you can rollback to ICS if you don't wish to void your warranty by unlocking the bootloader ?? (once you're on ICS, root/voodo/ota upgrade is good to go)
Or maybe I have missed something and there is a way to downgrade to ICS with a locked bootloader ??? If so, i'd be *very* interested...
There is a way to downgrade with locked bootloader. Use Matt's tool.
Enviado de meu DROID RAZR HD usando o Tapatalk 2
I've tried already, but it doesn't work. T my understanding (and after reading a bit the thread dedicated to Matt's tool) I'd say you must have an unlocked BL to downgrade...
CoinCoin88 said:
I've tried already, but it doesn't work. T my understanding (and after reading a bit the thread dedicated to Matt's tool) I'd say you must have an unlocked BL to downgrade...
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It is definitely not necessary on the 926 Consumer Edition as of course it is not currently possible to unlock the BL at this time. It may be different on the 925, but u doubt it.
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk 2
Regardless of what you do your gonna void your warranty no matter what,if its a simple root or flash anything your voiding it,and you don't need to have an unlocked bootloader to downgrade back to ics
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It is definitely not necessary on the 926 Consumer Edition as of course it is not currently possible to unlock the BL at this time. It may be different on the 925, but u doubt it.
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk 2
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Ok, so p-maybe the problem is not the locked BL... but the fact that probably many people here aren't using the Verizon 925 but the "international" XT-925 model (which is disclamed as "not supported" in Matt's tool's thread).
I'd definitely be willing to give it a try again to downgrade it, but IIRC the last time I tried, option 1 started well then ended up with some errors (can't actually remember what was written). Took like 5 minutes, a bunch of errors here and there on prompt, rebooted the phone, and was still on 4.1.1.
So either this is the "international XT-925 not supported thing", or there's somethign I did wrong (like, extracting a bug report with the key combination or i-don't-now-what-else). Just to be sure we're on the same page, are we all talking about the international XT-925 ? Or is this where we are misunderstanding ??
I'm using xt926 maxx and downgrade many time with no trouble,
Hope my information is helpful ^^
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unlocked or rooted?
HELP!
I have gone around with a motorola RAZR M only to be told by motorola that it couldn't be rooted. I have several posts in the general discussions area of the RAZR M. Motorola told me that I HAD to have a developer edition phone to unlock the bootloader. I did that. They told me that with the bootloader unlocked it would be considered rooted. That isn't true. I think I was misled or maybe uninformed. The phone that I got from them is a XT926dev. I voided the warranty, unlocked the bootloader and nothing has really changed. All the root dependent apps say it isn't rooted.
What am I not doing that completes the root? I have root checker and it's sole requirement for root appears to be whether or not superuser and su.binary are installed in the root sectors. Can anybody lead me into the light? I'm scared of the dark.
JAB©
jabeth407 said:
HELP!
I have gone around with a motorola RAZR M only to be told by motorola that it couldn't be rooted. I have several posts in the general discussions area of the RAZR M. Motorola told me that I HAD to have a developer edition phone to unlock the bootloader. I did that. They told me that with the bootloader unlocked it would be considered rooted. That isn't true. I think I was misled or maybe uninformed. The phone that I got from them is a XT926dev. I voided the warranty, unlocked the bootloader and nothing has really changed. All the root dependent apps say it isn't rooted.
What am I not doing that completes the root? I have root checker and it's sole requirement for root appears to be whether or not superuser and su.binary are installed in the root sectors. Can anybody lead me into the light? I'm scared of the dark.
JAB©
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You maybe have unlocked the Bootloader, but that does not necessary means, you are rooted.
First think on which Firmware is you XT926, is it on 4.0.4 or is it on 4.1.2
If you are on 4.0.4, read this Thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943851
If you are on 4.1.2 and your bootloader really is unlocked, read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118483
If you are on 4.1.2 and your phone is VERIZON xt926 and your bootloader is locked:
Try Matts Tool to downgrade. Then do the first step i mentioned
Next time please inform yourself about the things you want to do. This should be the first thing. If you dont know the difference between an unlocked bootloader and root access, you should propably not try to mess with these kind of things.
Maybe Motorola Service Workers aren't the right people to ask about stuff like that...
But well hope i helped you out of the dark, greetz Esok
If you have the XT925 RAZR HD and don't want to downgrade, for now you have to unlock your BL, flash CWM and flash SuperSU through CWM (you can find the flashable zip on the chainfire.eu). Or you could wait for an exploit to come.
Sent from my XT925
saloums7 said:
If you have the XT925 RAZR HD and don't want to downgrade, for now you have to unlock your BL, flash CWM and flash SuperSU through CWM (you can find the flashable zip on the chainfire.eu). Or you could wait for an exploit to come.
Sent from my XT925
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And we're back to this: is it actually possible to downgrade a XT925 with Matt's tool ?????
I downgraded straight with RSD... but my BL is unlocked don't know if it makes a difference
Sent from my XT925
CoinCoin88 said:
And we're back to this: is it actually possible to downgrade a XT925 with Matt's tool ?????
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No. Matt's tool is intended for the XT926 only.
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
esok44 said:
You maybe have unlocked the Bootloader, but that does not necessary means, you are rooted.
First think on which Firmware is you XT926, is it on 4.0.4 or is it on 4.1.2
If you are on 4.0.4, read this Thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943851
If you are on 4.1.2 and your bootloader really is unlocked, read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118483
If you are on 4.1.2 and your phone is VERIZON xt926 and your bootloader is locked:
Try Matts Tool to downgrade. Then do the first step i mentioned
Next time please inform yourself about the things you want to do. This should be the first thing. If you dont know the difference between an unlocked bootloader and root access, you should propably not try to mess with these kind of things.
Maybe Motorola Service Workers aren't the right people to ask about stuff like that...
But well hope i helped you out of the dark, greetz Esok
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Thanks for the links, I'll try it. I tried to get information about what I'm doing from the manufacturer. You can see where that has gotten me. I have tried others too. It is a simple thing to share & part with knowledge. I still haven't gotten anybody to set me straight on any differences between unlocked boot & root. So, this is my attempt at informing myself.
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esok44 said:
First think on which Firmware is you XT926, is it on 4.0.4 or is it on 4.1.2
But well hope i helped you out of the dark, greetz Esok
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Mine is 4.1.1, as usual I have fallen between the cracks!
jabeth407 said:
Thanks for the links, I'll try it. I tried to get information about what I'm doing from the manufacturer. You can see where that has gotten me. I have tried others too. It is a simple thing to share & part with knowledge. I still haven't gotten anybody to set me straight on any differences between unlocked boot & root. So, this is my attempt at informing myself.
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Mine is 4.1.1, as usual I have fallen between the cracks!
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Well, then try the method, using matts tool to downgrade and then using the normal 4.0.4 method to root
Should be the easiest method
before downgrading, make sure that you save all relevant things, like pictures, etc on your external sd-card, they will get lost with the downgrade, i think
Good luck Esok
esok44 said:
You maybe have unlocked the Bootloader, but that does not necessary means, you are rooted.
Next time please inform yourself about the things you want to do. This should be the first thing. If you dont know the difference between an unlocked bootloader and root access, you should propably not try to mess with these kind of things.
Maybe Motorola Service Workers aren't the right people to ask about stuff like that...
But well hope i helped you out of the dark, greetz Esok
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Hey man, I'm not totally useless. I know the bootloader is unlocked. I did manage to get that far. Give me a break, I'm used to my tandy 1000, cassette tape deck, b&w tv. Nice simple basic languages. Ha, ha, ha.
Hi guys I have a XT926
Since my phone was updated to KK I had problems .
I wonder if you can give back to JB.
But I have not unlocked the booltoader
Since I could never unlock and less with KK
I did the Factory data Reset. but still giving me problems
Thanks for your attention
FrederickIV said:
Hi guys I have a XT926
Since my phone was updated to KK I had problems .
I wonder if you can give back to JB.
But I have not unlocked the booltoader
Since I could never unlock and less with KK
I did the Factory data Reset. but still giving me problems
Thanks for your attention
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cant be done, period.
Is it possible downgrade from KK to JB with unlocked bootloader
by the House of Moto and proper XML file?
Regards
Rafal
rafjak said:
Is it possible downgrade from KK to JB with unlocked bootloader
by the House of Moto and proper XML file?
Regards
Rafal
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Yes.
But, here's something even better. With the new Towelroot for locked bootloaders on KK, once rooted, you can then use Motopocalypse and unlock your bootloader.
Nice going, Motorola! With the KK update, someone must have pulled in the old code to allow the exploit to unlock the bootloader (that was patched as of 9.18) to work. Way too funny, but I'm sure many people out there are bowing to Motorola for this, even though I'm sure it wasn't supposed to happen like this! :silly:
So, those of you with locked bootloaders, go root RIGHT NOW and UNLOCK those bootloaders. You're warranty was voided as soon as you rooted, so what harm is there in unlocking it as well? That means when the next OTA comes out (not sure when, but it will probably be soon since I got a new email for a new soak test), it means root will definitely be broken for those with locked bootloaders. With an unlocked bootloader, you'll be able to sideload SU onto your phones when the new OTA comes out, so better to be safe than sorry.
Good to know...
iBolski said:
Yes.
But, here's something even better. With the new Towelroot for locked bootloaders on KK, once rooted, you can then use Motopocalypse and unlock your bootloader.
Nice going, Motorola! With the KK update, someone must have pulled in the old code to allow the exploit to unlock the bootloader (that was patched as of 9.18) to work. Way too funny, but I'm sure many people out there are bowing to Motorola for this, even though I'm sure it wasn't supposed to happen like this! :silly:
So, those of you with locked bootloaders, go root RIGHT NOW and UNLOCK those bootloaders. You're warranty was voided as soon as you rooted, so what harm is there in unlocking it as well? That means when the next OTA comes out (not sure when, but it will probably be soon since I got a new email for a new soak test), it means root will definitely be broken for those with locked bootloaders. With an unlocked bootloader, you'll be able to sideload SU onto your phones when the new OTA comes out, so better to be safe than sorry.
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.... but now can you tall me how to get back to JB, please?
Big Fat Droid said:
.... but now can you tall me how to get back to JB, please?
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Well, technically there is no going back.....you can use SamuriHL's HouseOfMoto...with the JB FXZ files to generate the scripts, and then use the Universal script to flash....this will flash everything EXCEPT the tz and gpt partitions, at that point you should be able to flash a JB ROM.
You cannot downgrade tz and gpt so dont waste your time trying...
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.... but now can you tall me how to get back to JB, please?
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use this [guide] to flash kk, root, unlock the bootloader, go back to jb, and root again. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2789743
So can i or cant i downgrade tz and gpt ?
Big Fat Droid said:
So can i or cant i downgrade tz and gpt ?
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nope never not even when unlocked.
So i have a mini (i was told this was the current XDA for ultra/maxx/mini development and such) on 4.4.4 kitkat, latest OTA, and ive been wanting to root, SO much, but i cant downgrade. I used firmware from
forum.xda-developers{DOT}{COM}/showthread.php?t=2580060
But it didnt work, something about a gpt_main flash fail. Phone still works, etc, but no root, no unlock, nothing. Anyone know how i can downgrade?
Sirshark10 said:
So i have a mini (i was told this was the current XDA for ultra/maxx/mini development and such) on 4.4.4 kitkat, latest OTA, and ive been wanting to root, SO much, but i cant downgrade. I used firmware from
forum.xda-developers{DOT}{COM}/showthread.php?t=2580060
But it didnt work, something about a gpt_main flash fail. Phone still works, etc, but no root, no unlock, nothing. Anyone know how i can downgrade?
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You can't. Period.
Should have researched. Your phone may very possibly brick when you take the next update.
Downgrading is a no-no. Not possible.
samwathegreat said:
You can't. Period.
Should have researched. Your phone may very possibly brick when you take the next update.
Downgrading is a no-no. Not possible.
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Really? I did it back on my bionic. Is there just no way to do so on the mini/maxx/ultra or in general there is no way to downgrade an android device?
Sirshark10 said:
Really? I did it back on my bionic. Is there just no way to do so on the mini/maxx/ultra or in general there is no way to downgrade an android device?
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Let me help you out. Reread the post below. That will answer your question.
samwathegreat said:
You can't. Period.
Should have researched. Your phone may very possibly brick when you take the next update.
Downgrading is a no-no. Not possible.
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But why exactly? I'm looking for an actual reason now. I was able to on my droid bionic a while back, why cant I on my droid mini?
Motorola signs OTA packages. The signature check fails because Moto simply doesn't want us downgrading.
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But why exactly? I'm looking for an actual reason now. I was able to on my droid bionic a while back, why cant I on my droid mini?
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I think, and I hope to get corrected if I'm not accurate, that downgrade is possible as long as bootloader stays the same version. Once the bootloader is upgraded, downgrading OS to a lover level will not be possible. Bootlader can remain the same version through multiple OS upgrades.
U can research for taobao boot loader unlock and that will allow you to unlock boot loader and gain root . but not a 100% sure thing but will cost ya 45 bucks if successful.
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Before ranting at me for asking a question that was already answered, I know there is multiple threads of people asking how to do this.
So I've heard that there is an UNSAFE way of downgrading from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2 on a LOCKED bootloader. I'm willing to take the risk of trying the method for SCIENCE! If someone were to PM me the method of doing the downgrade, I will record what happens and report back.
I'm aware of the risks that come along with this. (Soft brick, hard brick), and I'm willing to take them.
Device:
Moto G XT1028 VZW
Just skip flashing bootloader (motoboot.img) and partition table (gpt.bin), it worked fine in my phone some time ago. Don't blame me if something bad happens to yours, you're the only responsible.
Did you do this with a locked bootloader on 4.4.4? And same device? (Confirming before attempting)
ryanguy426 said:
Did you do this with a locked bootloader on 4.4.4? And same device? (Confirming before attempting)
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Nope, XT1032 unlocked.
Ah, well I have a locked bootloader on xt1028. Hence why I wanted to confirm first. (Updated op with info regarding locked bl)
ryanguy426 said:
Ah, well I have a locked bootloader on xt1028. Hence why I wanted to confirm first. (Updated op with info regarding locked bl)
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I have this problem too. I deployed and my mother updated my phone. Thanks, mom.
The new bootloader won't allow older versions to be flashed. But you knew that already.
We're stuck unless an exploit is found. It's too bad, I was so excited to learn about SunShine working on 4.4.2.
If we had a temp root for 4.4.4 I'd test sunshine for y'all, even at the risk of my bootloader
ryanguy426 said:
If we had a temp root for 4.4.4 I'd test sunshine for y'all, even at the risk of my bootloader
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You and I are both on the same boat, Same phone/carrier & same firmware.
I've been trying to get temp root as well to try out the sunshine apk but it seems
that information on this particular model is very scarce.
That's partly because it's (correct me if I'm wrong) just a rebranded Boost handset for Verizon, so it's not technically an actual variant.
Also the bootloader is like trying to move a 9001 pound rock with your body. It's not going anywhere.
Extosis said:
You and I are both on the same boat, Same phone/carrier & same firmware.
I've been trying to get temp root as well to try out the sunshine apk but it seems
that information on this particular model is very scarce.
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I am also on this boat:crying:
Please get off my boat. I'm getting claustrophobic
Good afternoon people of XDA,
Today is the dawn of a new day. A day where we begin the road to unlocking the bootloader to something that many believe is unlockable. Me and a few other users are starting a bounty to bring the incentive to life for all active developers. You can find my previous thread here. Now, when I say progress has been made, I mean that we have gotten into fastboot, we have donation incentives and we already have root so our tools are there we just have to find the exploit. Every day people are finding new exploits furthering our cause into reaching our goal. Now to the developers who want to pursue this, I've very much so tried to get active commands in fastboot but basically its just a dead fastboot for right now. The board on this phone and technologies behind it are so similar to its predecessors that somethings got to give. If you are interested in this cause, i.e. donating or deving on it, please contact me here, or email me at [email protected]
This is in our grasps friends. Spread the word, grab your fellow developers and lets get this thing to be a free wad of cash for whoever can bust it. Lets do this.
Attached is the spreadsheet for the current donations.
this kind of things never work...i mean, you make a donation and the people or the persons behind the scenes when getting high values like 400-500$ then buy a new phone and move on letting the desired phone to get development in the trash!!
Noooo, people should see, if a year old phone never came to life in development in the first 6-8 months then the development for it is dead and if you like to custumize the phone and flash things you need to move to a more flashable-friend device!
I have to agree with this. The Tmobile version has unlocked bootloader yet barely no development. What would make me that unlocking VS990 bootloader would all of a sudden spur development.
beavis5706 said:
I have to agree with this. The Tmobile version has unlocked bootloader yet barely no development. What would make me that unlocking VS990 bootloader would all of a sudden spur development.
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I personally (and I think many other users) don't really need cooked roms. With gravity box, xposed and some other apps, I can "cook" my own rom (and believe me, it won't be that hard). All we need is a method for rooting. Using an android without rooting is even worse than an iphone without jailbreaking since iphones are undoubtedly smoother
presariohg said:
I personally (and I think many other users) don't really need cooked roms. With gravity box, xposed and some other apps, I can "cook" my own rom (and believe me, it won't be that hard). All we need is a method for rooting. Using an android without rooting is even worse than an iphone without jailbreaking since iphones are undoubtedly smoother
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Indeed, a rooting method for version above MM is the most importing thing for us rather than flashing custom rom. However, system-less root is need to root MM or above and this is required modifying boot.img, therefore, bootloader unlocking is need. Unless, we have found a way to sign the modified boot.img to deceive the offical bootloader.
ivangundampc said:
Indeed, a rooting method for version above MM is the most importing thing for us rather than flashing custom rom. However, system-less root is need to root MM or above and this is required modifying boot.img, therefore, bootloader unlocking is need. Unless, we have found a way to sign the modified boot.img to deceive the offical bootloader.
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What did you mean by "unless"? Have you found an evidence that MM bootloader is unlockable or not?..
presariohg said:
What did you mean by "unless"? Have you found an evidence that MM bootloader is unlockable or not?..
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I mean even if the bootloader is not unlockable, somethings can be done to let us perform the same things just like bootloader is unlocked.
For example, some dev in G2 and G3 have released a tool called "Bump!" before that can sign any third party image and let it able to be run on offical locked LG bootloader.
source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/orig-development/bump-sign-unlock-boot-images-lg-phones-t2935275
But of course, since LG have fixed the bug, we can no longer do the same tricks now.
In China, there is name ???he has lg tool, this tool can unpack repack kdz tot, add root in tot.
This is weibo id http://m.weibo.cn/u/1684239753
Need help
andy_zhang said:
In China, there is name ???he has lg tool, this tool can unpack repack kdz tot, add root in tot.
This is weibo id
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Hey, So I've been working to be able to get root, so far I have added root to the system.img and that's all done, I need this tool to be able to repack. Can anyone, or you, contact him and get this tool? This would be so helpful for me to get root and release it!!!!
abine45 said:
Hey, So I've been working to be able to get root, so far I have added root to the system.img and that's all done, I need this tool to be able to repack. Can anyone, or you, contact him and get this tool? This would be so helpful for me to get root and release it!!!!
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What version of Android you are going to add root? I wonder that you cannot simply add root in /system after Android 6.0.
ivangundampc said:
What version of Android you are going to add root? I wonder that you cannot simply add root in /system after Android 6.0.
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I'm trying different things but still i need to figure out how to repack a tot to find out what's going to work!! Does anybody know how to get that application?
abine45 said:
I'm trying different things but still i need to figure out how to repack a tot to find out what's going to work!! Does anybody know how to get that application?
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For MM, unless you've found a way to get the SELinux context needed, repacking the system image will not work.
anyone having any luck with rooting MM?
I think at this point what we really need is a small set of testers who have a good insurance policy on their phones and are willing to risk bricking their phones. We've got the outline of a method which looks viable, but the details haven't been worked out and is hence likely to produce a few bricks before we get it working.
Sorry for dropping of the face of the planet for the past two months. In testing with my device it ended up being FUBAR after wiping my aboot completely and with that the phone would not boot to anything but a black screen. I sent it into LG and after some time they finally just replaced my motherboard. But the absolute sad part is that they have me upgraded to 6.0 which absolutely is crushing my world. SO until further notice I will not be testing the unlocking of the bootloader anymore but I will make efforts here in a few weeks to start work on rooting the device. @alvislee[email protected]