[Q] Can't access 'more' menus? - Shield Q&A

I just got a Shield at the weekend, and I'm loving it apart from a rather annoying snag that I have come across.
When I call up the menu within an app, I get the usual bar along the bottom of the screen showing various options.
Usually, the rightmost option is 'more', which brings up a sub menu with further options.
For some reason, I can't select any of the options in the 'more' menus on any of my apps.
I have tried using the buttons, the touch screen, and the mouse pointer, but none of them will highlight or select options.
This is close to a disaster, because most of my apps have something important hidden away in the submenus, and I can't use them properly on my Shield.
I'm using some of these same apps on my Xperia Play, and they work fine.
Have I got a setting wrong or something, or is this a bug in the Shield firmware?

Can you give an example of an app so other users can try to repro?

EDIT:
False alarm!
I thought my Shield was up to date, but I guess it wasn't.
Updated Android, and the menus are working fine now.

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[Q] Silly question: Current Apps

I've googled it and got nothing.
Search this forum and not found it either
On Windows 8, if I scroll my mouse to the left/ left corner of the screen, I can see my current apps.
I can then close them.
With my keyboard connected I can do this on my surface using trackpad.
How do I do it without my keyboard connected?
I don't want to swipe them in, I want to see the icons of the apps I have running so I can close them.
Kenif1983 said:
I've googled it and got nothing.
Search this forum and not found it either
On Windows 8, if I scroll my mouse to the left/ left corner of the screen, I can see my current apps.
I can then close them.
With my keyboard connected I can do this on my surface using trackpad.
How do I do it without my keyboard connected?
I don't want to swipe them in, I want to see the icons of the apps I have running so I can close them.
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you have to swipe in from the left a short distance. I don't own a windows touch device but did get a go on a display model, was kinda fiddly to get the distance just right, was probably about half the distance you need to swipe to switch apps. With some practise you should be able to nail it.
Kenif1983 said:
I don't want to swipe them in, I want to see the icons of the apps I have running so I can close them.
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There's two behaviours for a short swipe in from the left. I believe the default one is to "swipe in" the last used app. Whereas what you want is to see a list of currently running apps (me too).
Go Settings>Change PC Settings and you're looking for a setting something like "App Switching">"When I swipe in from the left edge, switch between my recent apps instead of showing a list of them". In 8.1 that setting is under PC & devices, I can't recall if it's the same in 8.
The default way to do what you're asking is to swipe in from the left edge, then swipe back to the edge without releasing the swipe. It's a very quick and easy gesture easily made with the thumb; you don't have to swipe in more than maybe 1/4 of an inch (6mm) before swiping off the screen again to get he app switcher sidebar to appear.
To close the apps using touch only, you can do the following:
Drag the app from the sidebar off the bottom of the screen.
thanks, that's great.

No menu button?

Is there any way to force a menu button entry? Many older programs such as Scumm Vm do not have on-screen menus of any kind of rely on the button.
How can I play Full Throttle now!?!?!?! Good god the calamity.
bonapartist said:
Is there any way to force a menu button entry? Many older programs such as Scumm Vm do not have on-screen menus of any kind of rely on the button.
How can I play Full Throttle now!?!?!?! Good god the calamity.
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'Y' should be acting as a menu button. Unless ScummVM maps it to something else, it should bring the menu up.
Gnurou said:
'Y' should be acting as a menu button. Unless ScummVM maps it to something else, it should bring the menu up.
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AFAIK ScummVM is a derelict project - fully functioning and fully featured but no longer updated. It will likely never have anyone tailoring Shield support for it. So I have no way whatsoever to access the menu once in game, and hence no way to save or load, making most games essentially fruitless to play given their nature as long graphic adventures. I think the exclusion of a menu button is a bummer and a deficiency. They could of coded so a double press of the Nvidia button registers as a menu press, or something akin to that; knowing how cool Nvidia is, I imagine they'll either add this in, or their openness about the Shield will allow a custom rom to force it in... Still, it's a bummer right now that ScummVM is essentially "broken" on the Shield. 15+ years of superb graphic adventures.. Nuts.
I know the menu button is no longer a requirement on Android devices, but I for one am very sorry to see it go, even outside of implications for old Android applications that do not get freqeuent updates such as ScummVM.
Also the lack of a menu button means I can't bring up the keyboard at will in apps such as Dosbox! That's a huge problem! Being able to bring up the keyboard whenever you want was useful in many, many applications, I don't know why they would ever eliminate that.
I've yet to try SCUMM on the shield but there isn't a way to bring it up by swiping the screen?
On Dosbox, the keyboard can be brought up by swiping down from the top of the screen. Maybe it can be done somehow with ScUMM.
saiyan23 said:
I've yet to try SCUMM on the shield but there isn't a way to bring it up by swiping the screen?
On Dosbox, the keyboard can be brought up by swiping down from the top of the screen. Maybe it can be done somehow with ScUMM.
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Is there an App like Button savior which has a menu button?? I use that app on my nook tablet which only has one button but I don't recall there being a menu button
If you're rooted you can use tincore keymapper and make whatever button you want into the menu button. Just run it when you run the emulator.
"Home 2 shortcut" could also work. Like someone above said it could assign menu to double tap of the home button. I've not tried it on the shield though. Though I'm not sure it can be used like this...It might only work to launch apps.
My FIrsthand Solution
bonapartist said:
Is there any way to force a menu button entry? Many older programs such as Scumm Vm do not have on-screen menus of any kind of rely on the button.
How can I play Full Throttle now!?!?!?! Good god the calamity.
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I know this is an old post, but it came up on google when I was trying to resolve this problem myself. I decided to sign up and post the solution I found incase someone else searches the web trying to fix this problem.
I'm using the Nvidia Shield, but i believe this Build of ScummVM resolves problems for a lot of Android Devices:
google: ScummVm svn55436 1-1-0-7 (I Can't post links as a new user)
This is a stand-alone version of ScummVm, it offers an onscreen keyboard, as well as the ability to map buttons--resolving the issue of accessing a menu to save/load your game progress
Here is what I did using Nvidia Shield:
1. unistalled any Scumm apps I had
2. Using the chrome browser I went to: H TTP anddev.at.ua/load/scummvm_svn55436/1-1-0-7 (OR) google: ScummVM svn55436 1-1-0-7 (Again, I Can't post links as a new user)
the download link is at the top of the post
3. I went to settings>security> Check "Unknown Sources" UnCheck "Verify apps"
(This prevents Android from blocking installation switch these settings back after step 4.)
4. I then went to apps>downloads> and clicked "7_scummvm-sdl-1.7.apk" to install it
5. once installed I opened the program, I spent sometime configuring things in a trial by error fashion
Here's my configuration settings to my best recollection:
1. Video Settings> Check--Keep 4:3 screen aspect ratio
2. Mouse Emulation> Calibrate Touchscreen
3.Remap Physical Keys> (I pressed the "left shoulder" button on my gamepad)> Select Action> (scroll down) Show all Keycodes> then select "F5" <<<<This Lets you access the menu so you can SAVE/LOAD!!!!!
Were you able to use the analog stick to control the cursor? Mine acts very erratic. I followed your instructions and scumm works fine but I just that issue.
saiyan23 said:
Were you able to use the analog stick to control the cursor? Mine acts very erratic. I followed your instructions and scumm works fine but I just that issue.
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I've been able to get by just fine using the touchscreen. The joystick is a little funky on me too, any movement tends to send the cursor drifting offscreen.
The guy who did this build, I believe, designed it for android devices in general and not specifically for the Shield, so if you want the analog joystick working you might be s-o-l.
I have to say though, the touchscreen is working pretty good for me--I'd give it shot and try to get used to it.

Menu App or button changes?

Looking to see if there is any ability to get the right capacitive key to do anything other than switch/clear open apps? I sure do miss being able to hit the right key on my old phone and it would typically bring up menu options for whatever app you happened to be in and also a shortcut into your settings when on one of the home screens. What a PITA having to go up to the top right side of each app, hit the 3 little menu dots and change menu options that way.
Anybody figure any work-arounds or other 3rd party apps that can help out with this?
It would be nice if Alcatel would allow the right capacitive key to access the settings or menu of an app with a long hold of the button. Short hold of the button accesses the open apps. That would be intuitive. My old phone was the opposite, a short tap would open a backdoor to menu options and a long hold would open the active apps for dismissal or switch.
Very much an extra effort reaching up to the right when in Chrome to have to go to your bookmarks...that's just one example.
Any 3rd party launchers include something of this ability?
Also a PITA having to reach allllllll the way up to the top of the phone to pull down the notification panel. My old phone with KK 4.4.4 all you had to do was slide down anywhere on the home screen and the notification panel would come down. Vice versa, sliding up on a home screen would open the backdoor to your settings menu.
These are my two biggest *****es 24 hours into having this phone. Everything else I've tried so far seems pretty good.
I can propose solutions to two of your problems ..
(a) For bookmarks, could a bookmark widget help ? I believe Chrome has its own , but you could also use the stock widget and have it open any browser. Of course this only works in you are not already inside the browser. You can also try a browser with gestures. I think dolphin can do that.
(b) For the notification shade, you can use a launcher than offers a swipe down gesture. I use Apex which has gestures for free, and I have swipe down set for the notification shade.
Cool, thanks! Hopefully Alcatel is taking notes for future updates?
Did your phone have a custom room or Launcher? Those are not standard gestures for kit kat or stick Launcher.
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[GUIDE] Using Gestures to easily navigate the P2 with just one hand (requires root)

Even though the P2 can be considered large with a 5.5" display, the lower region of the screen is occupied by the on-screen navigation bar. While there's an option to turn off the navigation bar and use the fingerprint button exclusively, I still find this alternative lacking in many fronts:
1. I can't tell you how many times I return to the home daily; it gets tiring to always have to push down the fingerprint button.
2. You need to touch the fingerprint button for a second or so before the recent apps window is launched. If you've ever had the need to flip between apps quickly, you would know how irritating this delay is.
3. Because one button is used for three functions (back, home, recent apps), there's no way to quickly switch between apps (like alt+tab in windows).
4. I sometimes find myself lying on my side, holding the phone with one hand, and finding it almost impossible to reach all the way down to the navigation bar, let alone the fingerprint button.
Fortunately, I have a solution that I believe addresses all of the problems above and that is to navigate the phone through the use of gestures.
I've been using GMD GestureControl for about a week now and I think I've found an optimal combination of gestures that don't only work but are also intuitive to use. There's nothing you can lose by giving it a try.
It can take a bit of time to set it up the way I have mine set up. So, if you don't feel like spending some time doing it yourself, you can just "restore" my "titanium backup" backup. Download it from here. Just extract the zip file and copy the content into your "titanium backup" folder. Open "titanium backup" and restore.
If instead, you would like to set it up yourself, here's how I currently have mine set up:
1. After installing the app, the first thing to do is go to "Device Setup" by pressing the menu button on the top right corner of the screen. Change your values to the one you see in the first attached image below. Then go to "Settings", and change the values to those in the second attached image.
2. To create a gesture: press the plus button > Select a gesture > create path. You can see all the gestures I created in the third attached image. Recreate all of them.
3. You can decide which region of the screen a gesture is detected by choosing the appropriate zone in the "select starting zone" option.
4. You need to go to "advanced options" (attached image no. 4) at the bottom of the screen to decide whether or not the gesture can be triggered when the keyboard is active. I have most of the gestures disabled when the keyboard is active because I sometimes swipe to type and I don't want to accidental swipe to trigger something. For this reason, I have duplicated most of the gestures for the only the top half of the screen (above the keyboard) so that the gestures still continue to work when the keyboard is activated.
5. Make sure you enable "evaluate on release" on all gestures so that a gesture is only triggered after you lift your finger off the screen.
If you've gone through all the steps, it's now time to start trying things:
1. To open resent apps, just make a small ^ sign anywhere on the screen.
2. To go home, just make a small V sign anywhere on the screen.
3. To flip between apps, just make a small < or > sign anywhere on the screen, starting from the top.
4. To press back, swipe away from left or the right edge.
5. To open the launchpad, swipe up on the left or right edge.
Good looking out. I really like this option.

Anything like Pie Control for Surface3?

I got a Surface 3 laying around from work and I keep trying to use it like my Nexus 2013.
I see swiping from the left will bring up the alt+tab menu similar to Recent apps button on droid but the rest leaves much to be desired.
I dont like tablet mode since I put network shares on it and copy files directly to the desktop sometimes. I found a shortcut to take you to desktop, because oddly the Show desktop button is missing in Win10 now. In tablet mode though the shortcut does nothing.
I cant swipe brightness so I have to keep going to the action center. Windows key on the right side when I liked swiping from the left. Maybe flipping it will work but then the stand will be useless.

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