[Q] Connect hdd to phone + power hdd AND charge phone. - General Questions and Answers

As stated in the title, i'd like to connect my 320 gig external drive to my phone (2,5" laptop hdd in external enclosure - galaxy note 2)
Since it'll be a long flight i'd like to power both devices.
I found a configuration online including a power/data usb y-cable (mini usb - 2x male usb) + usb otg
Now the idea is to connect one male usb to the powersource (5V-2A output, should be enough for both phone and hdd power),
then the other male usb to the phone (via the usb otg) and the mini usb to the external harddisk. (see photo for the idea)
By design of the cable this will probably work:
- be able to exchange data between the hdd and phone
- power the hdd?
But I wonder:
- will the phone charge (or at least get some power to extend battery life)
And (most importantly)
- will it work, or do I risk ending up with 2 fried bricks
halp!
-> attached photo showing setup (only car charger is a regular samsung 5V-2A wall charger in my setup)
On a side note, I did search the forum/google, but now one seems to want their phone charged or mentions it happening.
And I know about the issues connecting a hdd to a phone (galaxy note 2 in my case), but thats not the point of this post.

I bought the cables and found out that:
- i can access the hdd, it has enough power
- the phone wont charge
- no bricks :good:
So,. cr*p.
Oh and I found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371681
Soldering iron, here I come.

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Usb-host

Sorry 4 the prev thread in wrong section .. then .. One S ( stock rom or another custom rom - with or without Sense ) supporta the usb-host mode ?
I am reasonably sure that out of the box, on stock ROM it does not support the ability to act as an USB host. Additionally, the microUSB on the phone is an USB slave socket, so it would need an adapter to connect a USB slave device to it anyways. (At least I have not yet seen a native USB-Host device with a microUSB socket.)
I am pretty certain it can be hacked into a custom ROM or application, however there are limitations to this. Commonly a device that is designed as USB slave (like the One S) will not be able to power devices through the USB port as regular USB hosts have to.
So IMO, in order to get it to work as an USB host you would need an adapter to connect the devices properly, a modified firmware or specialized app AND a way to externally power the USB slave you want to connect to the One S acting as USB host. The external power might a portable USB charger battery (like the Gumpack) or an Y-cable which is connected to a "real" USB-Host device just for the power (or a car/wall USB charger).
So, theoretically it would be possible, but not very practical. To the best of my knowledge it has not been done in the past because there was no need to. This however might actually change with the current trend towards non-expandable memory on newer phones... if demand rises I bet manufacturers would come up with solutions. Think small USB storage sticks with regular USB plug on one side for use on Notebook/Desktop and a microUSB plug on the other which contain a tiny battery (think Bluetooth headset size) to power the stick while attached to the phone and are charged while connected to a real USB Host port which is designed to deliver juice.
Further reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus#Connector_types

External HDDs - My experience

Hi All,
I have seen many posts regarding using external HDDs asking which ones work and which ones don’t. So I thought I would share my experience which I think (hope) would cover most situations and answer most questions.
This is what I used:
1. 1TB 3.5”external HDD USB 2.0 with its own power supply (like mostly all 3.5”external drives need their own power supply)
2. 500GB 2.5”Seagate Caviar Blue external USB 2.0 HDD. Runs fine on a standard PC/laptop USB port without any extra power supply
3. 128GB 2.5”Crucial SSD in an external USB 3.0 HDD enclosure. Runs fine on a standard PC/laptop USB port without any extra power supply.
4. 256 GB 1.8”Samsung S1 external HDD USB 2.0. Runs fine on a standard PC/laptop USB port without any extra power supply. A 1.8”HDD is often used in a HDD MP3 player like the classic IPod.
I have used the above using the original Samsung Note 10.1 USB Connector kit, so I can’t make comments regarding other connector kits.
I also use the Paragon NTFS&HFS+ app from the Google Play Store to be able to mount the HDD which were all formatted in NTFS. Without this app I could not mount the HDDs.
My Results:
1. The 1TB 3.5”external HDD connected directly to the USB adaptor and runs fine using its own power supply.
2. The 500GB 2.5”Seagate Caviar Blue external HDD connected directly to the USB adapter did not work. The Note 10.1 produced the error “High powered device”. However when connected via a powered USB hub (i.e. with extra external power supply), then this HDD worked fine.
3. The 128GB 2.5”Crucial SSD in an external USB 3.0 HDD enclosure connected directly to the USB adapter did not work. The Note 10.1 produced the error “High powered device”. However when connected via a powered USB hub (i.e. with extra external power supply), then this HDD worked fine.
4. 256 GB 1.8”Samsung S1 external HDD USB 2.0 connected directly to the USB adapter did work. It appears these 1.8” HDDs are considered “low power” and it did work directly connected to the USB adapter. This also makes sense as these HDDs are used in many MP3 HDD players and could have a low power requirement.
Summary:
I have used 3.5” and 2.5” HDDs/SSDs with USB 2.0 and 3.0 interfaces, and I could get them all to work either directly or with an extra powered USB hub. Using a powered USB hub is a pain but at least it works.
Hope this helps in answering peoples questions whether it is possible to connect external HDDs.
Good stuff...thanks.
You need to use a USB splitter cable and connect the portable drives to an external power source. I do it all the time with my 750GB Seagate 2.5'" drive on the go. I have a portable battery with 2 USB sockets. The external battery provides power.
Besides, this has been discussed at length here and is no secret.
I'll stick to my wireless Seagate 500gb HDD... And when I have time to mod it, I'll make it either 1 or 2 TB....

[Q] OTG cable with additional power

Hello, I got this OTG cable but it has additional power plug and it might be used with hard disks, because it support additional power for disk, otherwise it wont work.
Question is: if it utilizes external power from AC adapter (stock one from my tablet) does it drain my tablet's battery just like memory stick via regular OTG? Or it just consume power from external adapter?

[Q] Connecting an external hard drive via the usb port

Hi guys. Is there an app out there that makes it possible to connect an external USB flash drive or 2.5" drive to the shield tab via its USB port?
I'm pretty sure you just do, and you'll be good. Strangely I've never had any problems using an OTG USB drive with the Shield. That's what you'd be looking for, by the way... Am OTG cable.
One quick thing to note is, be prepared to need to power the hard drive. The tablet may not have enough juice to power a full hard drive. So if you plug it in and it isn't recognized, try a powered USB hub.
Secondly, make sure you have ES file explorer.
I use a WD ultra passport portable 1tb drive and a otg cable.
I just plug in, open ES file explorer an get what I need an unmount an disconnect.
You'll lose a few percent of battery potential as expected.
WR
Thanks guys. I'm honestly shocked this actually works. I tried it with my WD passport laptop drive and low and behold it works flawlessly. With the research I did in the past with my HTC EVDO 3D, and reading all the comments on various messageboards, I really thought connecting USB HDDs to any Android device would not work. Does it work in this instance mainly because the device is a Shield Tablet? Or is it only because I'm rooted, and as a result any rooted Android device will allow USB HDDs to be used?
OTG and enough power
It just works if your (android) device has an On the Go (OTG) USB connector AND if it gives enough power to your (hard) drive. If there isn't enough power, you need a Y OTG cable and external power source. Many smartphones do not provide the 500mA at 5V they should provide, but tablets usually give enough from my experience.

How to connect an Android TV stick to a computer?

How do I connect my Android TV stick to my laptop? It has no reset or power on button. Just a microsd slot and two USB ports: a regular one and a mini usb one.
Hi can you tell us a little more about your device what make brand ect ect also some photos would really help
yes model number would help a lot.
usually it is going to be connected via the regular USB connector to the PC. Then you should see the internal and/or external SD cards as part of your computers resources.
Power on and off is by plugging in the power source, which sounds like it is micro-usb. Then remove to power off.
additional tips...
Some additional tips; I hope they can help...
In the OS settings, under "Device", subheading "USB", make certain that "connect to PC" is checked.
Also, if you use a microUSB-to-USB cable to connect the dongle to your PC, make certain you use a cable that you know has all four wires internally connected.
- I was going nuts one time, trying to figure out why I could not get the stick PC to connect over USB, and it turned out I was using a cheap microUSB-to-USB cable that was intended for power ONLY. (it had only the two power wires in the cable, and not the two data wires). Swapping the cable out solved that dilemma.
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