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OK guys. After much searching i've just become confused as to which is the best overclock app/ROM for the HTC sensation z710e. I used SetCPU but it couldn't actually take my processors above 1.188GHZ and I tried the sense-o-maniac ROM and also the android revolution 6.0.3 ROM, both of which say the processors are overclocked to 1.5GHZ but there is absolutely no difference to me, no they are not slower, and I just want a clear straight up ROM or app that OVERclocks.
Thanks,
Sensation lover
I under clocked my cpu to 1 ghz and I see no difference in speed.... From 1.2 to 1.5 its 20% increase in cpu speed.... Speed of the phone doesn't depend on cpu alone... So thats around 7-10% increase in speed overall (because there is gpu, ROM, sd card, memory)... And thats maybe... Do you really think you can see 7% in speed? Try some synthetic cpu benchmark with 1.2 and 1.5 and only then will you see....
This is my five cents ;-)
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Well the app that controls the CPU clocking is limited in what it can do by the Kernel you're running.
If you're Kernel only supports 1.18 Ghz, Set CPU can't do anything about it.
So you need a Kernel that supports overclocking. The Kernel also controls what kind of governors who can put on the CPU (Conservative, performance, battery saving, etc...)
As far as the controller apps go though, I like the ones that can set the screen off speeds at a different rate than the screen on speeds. That makes sure I don't drain battery at alarming rates when the phone is in my pocket because a rogue app decided it wanted to get funky.
As Skipjacks mentioned, the overclocking speed is due to the kernel you have flashed.
If you are unsure on which kernel to use,
Always use the kernels suggested by the ROM developer.
Of course, you could try various Kernels but do keep in mind that not all ROM's support different kernels.
Normally the current roms has CPU clocking apps built into it,
one widely used is the Daemon control. It usually comes with an app that you can control the overclocking speed.
The current app i'm using, I use System Tuner Pro (yes I support app developers)
It enables me to force cpu2 online, which ultimately makes my phone faster.
Hi guys.
I wanted to ask you something, because in our sl i9003 is the maximum possible overclock 1300 mhz?
The Artex-A8 processor is not it?
It should be a very powerful processor, but even though I've always overclocchi various lag to 1.3, with any rom.
And my device has no flaws ..
So, back to the main question .. because the maximum overclock is only 1.3?
Now I'm using the rom with the look dell's3 and formatted EXT4 but is slow and full of lag .. Help!
Thanks.
I'm wrong or sI9000 can be overclocked more with the same cpu?
davibs said:
Hi guys.
I wanted to ask you something, because in our sl i9003 is the maximum possible overclock 1300 mhz?
The Artex-A8 processor is not it?
It should be a very powerful processor, but even though I've always overclocchi various lag to 1.3, with any rom.
And my device has no flaws ..
So, back to the main question .. because the maximum overclock is only 1.3?
Now I'm using the rom with the look dell's3 and formatted EXT4 but is slow and full of lag .. Help!
Thanks.
I'm wrong or sI9000 can be overclocked more with the same cpu?
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are u confused in between i9000 or i9003 phone?
Max overclock i9000 - 1.6ghz (i think)
Max overclock i9003 - 1.38ghz
vishal24387 said:
are u confused in between i9000 or i9003 phone?
Max overclock i9000 - 1.6ghz (i think)
Max overclock i9003 - 1.38ghz
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No , he would be know why for our phone the max overclock is 1.38 ghz.. I would it know to..
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Our Max is 1.45(I think can't rmb). Each chip has different oc capabilities, my g3 could oc from 667mhz to 1.4ghz with no problems .
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Could so anyone develop a kernel with 1.45 ghz ??
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redflash52 said:
Could so anyone develop a kernel with 1.45 ghz ??
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As I said I don't rmb clearly, but its in 1.4-1.45 ghz
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Well, you can easly push your phone at 1500MHz (BCK kernel feature: Evolved sysfs interface for variable overclock or underclock), but the phone is not usable. I tried once to slowly change the frequency to see my limit and @1400MHz the phone became unusable.
Other than being unstable because, quoting XDA_Bam, "Anything more than 10% higher than the highest stock frequency is likely to be unstable", I think the voltage set for the 5th OPP is too low for anything higher than 1300MHz (maybe I'm wrong).
Proof? here.
Actually, this is "fake". To take this screenshot I had first disabled the 5th OPP, then I changed its frequency so that CPU Spy showed 1500MHz even though I wasn't really using it. The time spent at that frequency was actually the time the CPU spent at 1200MHz before I had disabled the 5th OPP
I did that to show you that it's actually possible to (easly) change the max frequency to anything higher 1380MHz.
EDIT:
And BTW devs are continuosly improving this device, we were first limited to 1100MHz, now some phones are stable at 1300MHz. Remember that our cousing (I9000) is older and has a huge community.
EDIT 2:
"I'm wrong or sI9000 can be overclocked more with the same cpu?" => "I'm wrong or sI9000 can be overclocked more with a totally different cpu?"
vishal24387 said:
are u confused in between i9000 or i9003 phone?
Max overclock i9000 - 1.6ghz (i think)
Max overclock i9003 - 1.38ghz
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EDIT: -Looks like i am wrong too?
davibs said:
I'm wrong or sI9000 can be overclocked more with the same cpu?
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You are wrong: the CPUs are different
i9003 has TI OMAP 3630 1GHz and i9000 has Samsung S5PC110 1GHz (code-named "Hummingbird")
Cortex A8 is just instructions and specifications for CPU. It's like DX10 for GPU. You can say Nvidia XXX card supports DX10 and AMD YYY supports it, why clocks for these cards and overclock potential are different?
I think the cpu of the i9000 is wors then the from i9003 so why is the i9000 overclocked to 50% and in our is it only 35%?
Cuold we not work on an overclock like 1.45 ghz for our phone ? Would it be unstable or is it because we need developers that can make it stable?
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redflash52 said:
I think the cpu of the i9000 is wors then the from i9003 so why is the i9000 overclocked to 50% and in our is it only 35%?
Cuold we not work on an overclock like 1.45 ghz for our phone ? Would it be unstable or is it because we need developers that can make it stable?
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But can anybody tell me that whats the use of such higher OC (1.45ghz) when u can do same stuffs smoothly on 1.2 ghz easily??? Also OC looks very attractive feature but in my opinioin its a deadly battery killer feature. OC upto 1.35 ghz is more than sufficient (I am satisfied with 1ghz max with superb performance & good battery backup).
Instead of wasting time on overclocking developers should work on overclocking gpu, kernel 3.0 or video codec, video recording in cm7, cm9, miui, aosp roms. Because for now thats a big problem for our phone.
vishal24387 said:
But can anybody tell me that whats the use of such higher OC (1.45ghz) when u can do same stuffs smoothly on 1.2 ghz easily??? Also OC looks very attractive feature but in my opinioin its a deadly battery killer feature. OC upto 1.35 ghz is more than sufficient (I am satisfied with 1ghz max with superb performance & good battery backup).
Instead of wasting time on overclocking developers should work on overclocking gpu, kernel 3.0 or video codec, video recording in cm7, cm9, miui, aosp roms. Because for now thats a big problem for our phone.
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I am with you, we reached the limits of "smoothness" really (On stable roms, we shouldn't blame hardware when using buggy or incompletete roms or even stupid samsung roms.)
It would be better if devs focus on the GPU.
redflash52 said:
I think the cpu of the i9000 is wors then the from i9003 so why is the i9000 overclocked to 50% and in our is it only 35%?
Could we not work on an overclock like 1.45 ghz for our phone ? Would it be unstable or is it because we need developers that can make it stable?
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Remember when OCing just happened on our device? we were limited to 1080 Ghz, then to 1100 Ghz, then to 1200 Ghz/1300 Ghz, and now 1380 Ghz, devs will always figure out a way to squeeze more power and keep it stable, it needs time and effort.
The Galaxy S has a different CPU (That has lower OC potential then ours theoretically if i remember correctly) but has a bigger number of developers, it was released in 2010, our device was released in 2011 so it is kinda new.
vishal24387 said:
But can anybody tell me that whats the use of such higher OC (1.45ghz) when u can do same stuffs smoothly on 1.2 ghz easily??? Also OC looks very attractive feature but in my opinioin its a deadly battery killer feature. OC upto 1.35 ghz is more than sufficient (I am satisfied with 1ghz max with superb performance & good battery backup).
Instead of wasting time on overclocking developers should work on overclocking gpu, kernel 3.0 or video codec, video recording in cm7, cm9, miui, aosp roms. Because for now thats a big problem for our phone.
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Yes of cours but some developers can't fix this bugs.. But maybe they are able to overclock the phone (like uc team) and i think it's not a battery killer.. If i have battery problems i buy for 10 € a new battery.. Some games and if i have 2 apps open the phon is luggy.. Maybe with an haiey overclock it will be smoother
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Remember guys, even if you OC the CPU, there will always be the weight of our outdated GPU dragging us down. Even if we OC to 1.45Ghz, you will always experience little bits of lag due to our PowerVR530. If I compare my friend's stock I9000 (No Mods, No Root, No OC:1Ghz) to my I9003 (with OC 1.38Ghz). My friend's I9000 will always be smoother due to both an advanced CPU and GPU.
FeelLikeASir said:
Remember guys, even if you OC the CPU, there will always be the weight of our outdated GPU dragging us down. Even if we OC to 1.45Ghz, you will always experience little bits of lag due to our PowerVR530. If I compare my friend's stock I9000 (No Mods, No Root, No OC:1Ghz) to my I9003 (with OC 1.38Ghz). My friend's I9000 will always be smoother due to both an advanced CPU and GPU.
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Only their GPU is superior..
If someone could OC the gpu, we can probably reach their performance.
Skander1998 said:
Only their GPU is superior..
If someone could OC the gpu, we can probably reach their performance.
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The uc team has tried but it seems the gpu frequency is locked
Cheers
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bscraze said:
The uc team has tried but it seems the gpu frequency is locked
Cheers
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Nope
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451218&highlight=gpu+overclock
V9:
-Performace gpu and test overclocking to 300Mhz.
-Apply patch swa sources.(Many thanks to xda_bam)
-fix some small fix codes.
-Add vurrutCWM with many addons
Skander1998 said:
Nope
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451218&highlight=gpu+overclock
V9:
-Performace gpu and test overclocking to 300Mhz.
-Apply patch swa sources.(Many thanks to xda_bam)
-fix some small fix codes.
-Add vurrutCWM with many addons
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Yes as they said they're testing, they themselves said there is no way they can confirm its working
Cheers
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bscraze said:
Yes as they said they're testing, they themselves said there is no way they can confirm its working
Cheers
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But in the next version 9.1 they stated that they lowered the OC, (Still OCed) and this is the latest working version.
V9.1:
-Fix problems in recovery.
-Reduce overclock gpu to 220Mhz.
-Voltage ajustement.
I need an expert advice o n thee isuue of OverClocking, please state some advantages and disadvantages of OC kernel??
When one is sensible enough not to oc cpu to much,
Advantages are:
-more fluid device performance
Disadvantages:
-the higher the cpu clock speed- the more heat it produces,
and the heat is a silent killer
By overclocking, one can shorten central procesing units' s live
-oc above sensible limits, causes freezes, random reboots,
unstable device performance
To prevent the above mentioned disadvantages from happening,
it is advised to undervolt the cpu- while overclocked...
Oc to 1.2 is enough
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Galaxy S4 9500 onlyStandard Disclaimer: Im not responsible if something wrong happens to your device Read the guide as much as you want before proceeding with overclocking
Overclocking and undervolting is highly debatable, some say its good and some say its bad... so its upto you to decide and proceed further
First rule of overclocking.. Your Mileage May Vary
Most of the people here in xda do know about overclocking and stuffs but still there are many who are so eager to overclock their device . Hence this guide.
I have given some good info below about these stuffs as far as i can , you can always use google to get further details.
What is overclocking?
Overclocking is the process of making a computer or component operate faster than the specified clock frequency by the manufacturer by modifying system parameters. One of the most important techniques is running at a higher clock rate (more clock cycles per second; hence the name "overclocking")
Operating voltages may also be changed (increased), which can increase the speed at which operation remains stable.
Advantage:
You can get more performance from your chipset, though s4 is already fast you can see the visible changes in application execution time and much more like instant response time.
Disadvantage:
* Overclocking is always risky if something is configured improperly and may also result in permanent damage to your hardware. As long as it is done safely you are good to go.
* You may see some increased power consumption.
* Extreme overclocking might kill your hardware.
Undervolting :
The process where you provide less voltage to your cpu rather than the stock voltage.
Advantage:
* Reduced heat from your device.
* Good battery life.
Disadvantage:
* Extreme undervolting will make your device unstable and some times even end up with a boot loop.
Apart from the voltage table defined below for exynos the below mentioned data are common for 9500/9505
Overclocking in Exynos Octa:
Exynos 5410 is already one among the best performing chipset available, so overclocking this device is not going to give us any visible performance improvements except the benchmark scores. Underclocking is a different story on 9500, since the cpu temperature easily reaches upto 90C (90C is the throttle temperature defined for this device in the kernel, so its normal) undervolting the device will help in reducing the overall temperature of the device considerably. I highly recommend undervolting the device instead of overclocking it.
Exynos 5410 has 2 cpu clusters, stock voltages and available steppings are given below
Little Cores (A7) stock voltages
Code:
[B]STWEAKS[/B]
1200mhz : 1225mv
1100mhz : 1125mv
1000mhz : 1100mv
900mhz : 1037mv
800mhz : 987mv
700mhz : 950mv
600mhz : 950mv
500mhz : 950mv
400mhz : 950mv
300mhz : 950mv
200mhz : 950mv
Samsung divides the actual clock of a7 by 2 while displaying the steppings in order to accommodate the big little way of displaying values. Stweaks will show you every available steppings like above whereas most other cpu tuning apps show it like below, both are same though. stweaks @ 800mhz is equal to other tuning apps @ 400mhz
Code:
[B]OTHER CPU TUNING APPS[/B]
700mhz : 1225mv
550mhz : 1162mv
500mhz : 1100mv
450mhz : 1037mv
400mhz : 987mv
350mhz : 950mv
300mhz : 950mv
250mhz : 950mv
200mhz : 950mv
150mhz : 950mv
100mhz : 950mv
Big Cores (A15) stock voltages
Code:
2000mhz : 1250mv
1900mhz : 1250mv
1800mhz : 1250mv
1700mhz : 1200mv
1600mhz : 1162mv
1500mhz : 1137mv
1400mhz : 1100mv
1300mhz : 1062mv
1200mhz : 1025mv
1100mhz : 1000mv
1000mhz : 962mv
900mhz : 925mv
800mhz : 900mv
Though the cpu frequency table has steppings upto 2ghz the max stable clock i have seen so for on s4 is 1800mhz.
Requirements:
1. Kernel with overclocking/undervolting support.
2. stweaks or android tuner to change frequency/voltage.(you can use the app of your choice here).
3. set cpu and stability test to test the stability of CPU.
4. Some patience.
The below mentioned steps are common for 9500/9505
Step 1:
Set the current clock and voltage you want to test via android tuner/stweaks. (Select max frequency in cpu tab).
Example:
*If you want to test under volting for 1.4 ghz with 1050 mv (1100 is the default) then set 1.4 ghz as max clock and 1050mv as its voltage.
*If you want to test overclocking @ 1.7 ghz with 1150 mv (1200 is the default) then set 1.7 ghz as max clock and 1150 mv as its voltage.
Step 2:
Open set cpu's cpu stress test and run it for atleast 10 minutes. If you didnt get any errors or hang during the testing period and if the test completed successfully then the clock is ready for daily use
Step 3:
Now for undervolting use the same tools and reduce the voltage by -25mv.
Repeat step 2.
you can reduce the voltage further by -25 mv after every successful completion of stress test (Advanced users can try reducing -50mv )
Step 4:
Repeat step 1,2 and 3 for every possible cpu clock you see in android tuner/stweaks.
Note the stable cpu voltage for every clock, once you finish testing all your clock values save it as a profile and/or set it on boot.
Voila !!! now you have finished overclocking/ under voting your device.
Notes:
1. Never ever use set on boot option until you find the stable clock and voltage settings.
2. Not all chips are capable of running at higher speeds like 1800 mhz. Those speeds are highly experimental.
3. Recommended max overclocking is 1700 mhz.
4. If your device gets hotter allow the device to cool for few minutes before starting the test.
5. Either use stweaks or android tuner(or some other app), dont mix up.
6. Combining the overclocking and undervolting will give you the best of both the worlds
In case of emergency:
1. If your device becomes unstable and not responsive either press the power button until your device restarts or pull out your battery.
2. Android tuner has an option to create flashable zip for resetting the voltage table, use it if needed.
*********************Do note me if any information is incomplete or wrong ill change it.*******************************
Credits :
* wikipedia
* @AndreiLux and @wanam for their outstanding work on kernel development
Reserved for GPU
One more for some other if needed
I realize the thanks icon is there in order to prevent thanks spam.... however today I can not restrain myself.. thank you bala for this contribution
¡¡So say we all!! from Battlestar GT-I9500
well written and elaborate..thanks
thanks for the valuable input, but i differ on one thing. am using a 2Ghz overclock and is rock stable. using the GPU in the highest clock too....am attaching the STweaks values, battery and antutu score for the same. the device runs very cool too...hope this helps somone.
I do not know if am I doing it right or doing it wrong, but my phone runs without the (very occasional) hiccups and is as cool as it can be....and dat wat metters to me
thanks and regards,
Achyut.
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achyut said:
thanks for the valuable input, but i differ on one thing. am using a 2Ghz overclock and is rock stable. using the GPU in the highest clock too....am attaching the STweaks values, battery and antutu score for the same. the device runs very cool too...hope this helps somone.
I do not know if am I doing it right or doing it wrong, but my phone runs without the (very occasional) hiccups and is as cool as it can be....and dat wat metters to me
thanks and regards,
Achyut.
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Thank you very much!! Only wanted to ask about the 800mHz and 900mHz volts of the little cores since it's not shown in the screenshots. Thanks. :good:
noideaforusername said:
Thank you very much!! Only wanted to ask about the 800mHz and 900mHz volts of the little cores since it's not shown in the screenshots. Thanks. :good:
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oops...sorry...here,
achyut said:
thanks for the valuable input, but i differ on one thing. am using a 2Ghz overclock and is rock stable. using the GPU in the highest clock too....am attaching the STweaks values, battery and antutu score for the same. the device runs very cool too...hope this helps somone.
I do not know if am I doing it right or doing it wrong, but my phone runs without the (very occasional) hiccups and is as cool as it can be....and dat wat metters to me
thanks and regards,
Achyut.
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hmm, with 400Mhz more You have same results as stock? something is wrong, maybe settings do not apply or overheating is causing cpu throttling down so scores are so low.
Kriomag said:
hmm, with 400Mhz more You have same results as stock? something is wrong, maybe settings do not apply or overheating is causing cpu throttling down so scores are so low.
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Every chips has different mileage, even if his chip runs at 2ghz, it will throttle down in very few seconds.
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achyut said:
thanks for the valuable input, but i differ on one thing. am using a 2Ghz overclock and is rock stable. using the GPU in the highest clock too....am attaching the STweaks values, battery and antutu score for the same. the device runs very cool too...hope this helps somone.
I do not know if am I doing it right or doing it wrong, but my phone runs without the (very occasional) hiccups and is as cool as it can be....and dat wat metters to me
thanks and regards,
Achyut.
P.S. - I resized the FHD screenshots to 25% for easy uploading.
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Which Kernel are u using??? I assume ure using Perseus 4... Ive heard and read on some forums that ver 4 has some problems with Camera/Sound etc issues???
Plz confirm.... Thanks
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HassanM said:
Which Kernel are u using??? I assume ure using Perseus 4... Ive heard and read on some forums that ver 4 has some problems with Camera/Sound etc issues???
Plz confirm.... Thanks
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absolutely Zero issues.....camera opens at the blink of an eye. Am on wanams MEA firmware, trimmed and themed by me according to my need.
hope this helps.
regards,
achyut
tried oc upto to 1.8 ghz today and yes, im impressed
quadrant gave something around 14,500 and geekbench scored 4k+
bala_gamer said:
tried oc upto to 1.8 ghz today and yes, im impressed
quadrant gave something around 14,500 and geekbench scored 4k+
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I increased the voltages as advised by u but the quadrant results are around 13000 benchmark...
I'm currently using Omega 8/Perseus 3.4 along with the cross breeder....
My phones very snappy but just wondering about the quadrant result... Is there anything I'm missing???
Plz advise...
Thanks
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HassanM said:
I increased the voltages as advised by u but the quadrant results are around 13000 benchmark...
I'm currently using Omega 8/Perseus 3.4 along with the cross breeder....
My phones very snappy but just wondering about the quadrant result... Is there anything I'm missing???
Plz advise...
Thanks
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clock ur cpu at 1.8 ghz , u will get some similar scores
bala_gamer said:
clock ur cpu at 1.8 ghz , u will get some similar scores
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Thanks for replying.....
Should I ser this value in STweaks or SetCpu or both?????
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undervolting cpu
i dont get my phone pass all time stress cpu test but in my daily use he reboot all time!
anyone stable oc gpu? 640mhz or higher?
gpu overclock
jianlinooi said:
anyone stable oc gpu? 640mhz or higher?
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mine is not so stabel something i manage to complete gfx berch and someting not on 700 on stock voltages!
jianlinooi said:
anyone stable oc gpu? 640mhz or higher?
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yep....am on 700 mhz and is stable...check out my post in previous page, I shared the voltages for CPU & GPU.
regards,
Achyut
achyut said:
yep....am on 700 mhz and is stable...check out my post in previous page, I shared the voltages for CPU & GPU.
regards,
Achyut
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looks like your chip is cooked well
HOW to get the best performances out of the Galaxy S6?
Personally I just use XstreStoLite Deodexed rom as main system, with Hacker Kernel. Both type of cores are using interextrem governor and minimum frequency of 200mhz, but on the most powerful ones the clock is 2300mhz and on the others 1700?
I WILL do an antutu benchmark as soon as possibile and I really wanna see if there are better ways to improve performances.