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Hey guys, why is there only one (with many problems) sense rom for the nexus s? what is it that makes it so hard to port?
Having come from the HTC Dream where there is always an abundace of (insert random sense phone here) sense rom ports, it seems very odd that the Nexus S doesn't have them.
Htc sense is proprietary code. The only way to port is in smali and aosp devs don't like smali. I don't mind working with it but no plans on working with it (sense).
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Another question is why isn't there any touchwiz port yet? Sgs and ns are very similar phones both made by samsung. There is a sense rom which is pretty functional, but no touchwiz? COMON!
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Maybe because stock Android is better and faster than these bloated third party UIs?
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Maybe because stock Android is better and faster than these bloated third party UIs?
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Agreed most of us are on aosp to escape all that bloat if you want the latest touch wiz interface I suggest the samsung within
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asb123 said:
Hey guys, why is there only one (with many problems) sense rom for the nexus s? what is it that makes it so hard to port?
Having come from the HTC Dream where there is always an abundace of (insert random sense phone here) sense rom ports, it seems very odd that the Nexus S doesn't have them.
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Your Dream was made by HTC.
Sense is made by HTC.
The Nexus S is made by Samsung.
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Maybe because stock Android is better and faster than these bloated third party UIs?
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I have heard this so many times that it turned into a pathetic cliche...
Your statement has no sense btw, it would be a ROM with root acces so system apps can easily be unninstalled. I would use touchwiz for the graphic acceleration alone, in the browser.
You can even get rid of it's launcher, you can delete absolutely everything you want and you would still have the features from touchwizz, like codec support out of the box and maybe the cool camera app. But I repeat, the browser alone would be the biggest feature.
Edit: Touchwizz is not an UI, its a ROM with extra features.
generally people that would buy a nexus dont want the propriatary UIs. thats why they bought a nexus, to avoid that extra bloat.
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I have heard this so many times that it turned into a pathetic cliche...
Your statement has no sense btw, it would be a ROM with root acces so system apps can easily be unninstalled. I would use touchwiz for the graphic acceleration alone, in the browser.
You can even get rid of it's launcher, you can delete absolutely everything you want and you would still have the features from touchwizz, like codec support out of the box and maybe the cool camera app. But I repeat, the browser alone would be the biggest feature.
Edit: Touchwizz is not an UI, its a ROM with extra features.
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The hardware is different the camera alone wouldn't work for us
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dreamsforgotten said:
The hardware is different the camera alone wouldn't work for us
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The closest similar phone to the NS on the market is SGS. There is a port for HTC Sense which comes from a totally different phone, totally different CPU and GPU and touchwizz can't be ported? I really, really doubt it.
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The closest similar phone to the NS on the market is SGS. There is a port for HTC Sense which comes from a totally different phone, totally different CPU and GPU and touchwizz can't be ported? I really, really doubt it.
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No once said it can't be ported, my statement was addressing the end of your previous post having the codexes and camera app. You can't because the hw is different. The camera in the sgs, is capable of 720p recording, ours is not. Just because porting touchwiz is possible I would never expect to see it I promise no dev has the interest in it. You should have went with the sgs2 a newer updated tw than on the sgs.
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Quick back story: I'm an Android lover for many years who recently finally went Nexus 4 on T-Mobile and I'm very, very happy. To the point where, for the first time ever, I'm running my phone WITHOUT root. Insane, right? But it just works well enough for me that I don't need it. My last phone, a Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch, was utterly awful on custom ROMs, and at least at the point where I gave up on it, CM builds were still buggy and, most importantly, had horrible battery life.
Current situation: My girlfriend has an iPhone 3GS that she had on AT&T, but just switched to Straight Talk with (using the AT&T SIM that came in my starter pack; I just left them for T-Mobile directly, but she can't do that until she gets a phone compatible with their 3G). She's sick of it and ready to go Android. But she hates, hates, hates the trend of large-screen phones, and isn't interested in spending money on something just to try to get used to it. She's played with my 4.7" screen and finds it absurdly large. Yes, yes, I know, if she uses it for a while she'll surely get used to it, right? She claims no, and I'm not about to be a patronizing ass by trying to tell her she's wrong about her own opinions. So whatever the case, it looks like probably the smallest screen that exists on any phones that aren't crap is 4.3". And it looks like the last good 4.3" phone to hit the US with T-Mobile compatibility is the HTC One S. The Mini currently looks as though it's headed only to AT&T, so that's out.
Now I know the One S is locked forever in 4.1 as far as HTC is concerned. And I know 4.1 really isn't that bad, all said and done. And I know some people like Sense. But I also know I never truly LOVED an Android phone until I got the real stock experience. And I'd love her to have that pure Android experience as well. Or an augmented, improved version of it in CM or AOKP or whatever. But point is, I'd like to make sure that if we get her this phone, it might be possible to switch her to an AOSP experience that's going to be at least as solid as the phone's own stock build.
So here's the question: How, honestly, is the HTC One S fairing in this regard? How good are the AOSP-based ROMs for it as far as stability and especially battery life? My girlfriend really derided the battery life of my SGSII, but has been impressed with my Nexus 4. And while she's not a technophobe by any means, I don't want her to have to constantly tinker and monkey with it like we do. I just want it to work for her. Are any AOSP-based, or AOSP-equivalent ROMs going to provide that on this phone?
Thanks.
AOSP is plenty. Team Cyanogen are also working on Jelly Bean v3 as well for it. There is well over ten different AOSP ROMs, most of them made by $droyd$. I recommend Illusions over all other ROMs on here, or if she fancies Sense 5, she should try my ROM it's called CharmanDroid, it really takes advantage of the deep contracts and rich colours on this screen.
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kylepont said:
AOSP is plenty. Team Cyanogen are also working on Jelly Bean v3 as well for it. There is well over ten different AOSP ROMs, most of them made by $droyd$. I recommend Illusions over all other ROMs on here, or if she fancies Sense 5, she should try my ROM it's called CharmanDroid, it really takes advantage of the deep contracts and rich colours on this screen.
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Really love that last sentence :
really takes advantage of the deep contracts and rich colours on this screen.
Our screen is so crap lol! It's something like 960*540 no such thing as rich colours on this display lol... Terrible pentile blue tint
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The camera in aosp is just not usable. Tried 4.3 cam. Its just rediculously Bad. Just try it. Makes my daily a sense Rom..... Sadly
If you don't need the camera, aosp is okay, very clean, fast, smooth and with 4.3 nightlys somewhat stable.
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k1llacanon said:
Really love that last sentence :
really takes advantage of the deep contracts and rich colours on this screen.
Our screen is so crap lol! It's something like 960*540 no such thing as rich colours on this display lol... Terrible pentile blue tint
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The greens are good on it, but you know, all salesmen will make their product sound better than it actually is. Despite the fact this is HTC's fault and not mine. :silly:
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I am very happy with the phone hardware & form factor. I am also very happy with the usability and stability of CM 10.2. Currently using a stripped down/modified version of it called Codename Lungo. I would recommend CM 10.2 as a daily driver.
as a music lover, i can tell you: the earphone-audio performance on every aosp based rom is crap, not even close to the performance on sense-based roms.
I've always liked aosp better on every phone I've had, but on this one the camera and music sound quality on headphones is so much worse on aosp that I'm probably staying on sense.
Not only that I can't stand the lock screen delay on all the aosp roms since the 3.4 kernel.
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This is good feedback overall. I really appreciate it, guys. The last two, in particular, tell me AOSP likely won't be for her, as she does want to use it for music a lot.
So how tolerable, really, is stock? And I'm asking this especially of anyone who prefers AOSP/CM10. I'm not in the mood to put her through all the aches and pains of custom ROMs, so for me it was pretty much going to be stock Sense (stuck at 4.1, although at least it's Jelly Bean) or a really solid AOSP ROM. We're all a different breed; we enjoy tinkering, and get a thrill from updated ROM versions, bug testing, and tweaking. But most people who don't build their own computers and watch Google's press conferences livestreamed over their phones and surreptitiously patched through their Bluetooth headsets so people can't see they're not working, just want something that works. And especially since this'll be her first Android phone, I want the experience to be one that doesn't have her bringing me the phone to troubleshoot every few days.
AOSP audio is greatly improved using CM DSP Manager. Stock camera is much better than AOSP. Sense is quite tolerable and a must if you want essentially zero issues. With stock you just may want to disable a lot of the bloatware that is installed by default.
Dsp manager still didn't give me audio quality that was good enough for me.
Stock for me would have been fine except that I wanted to change the looks. Now I use Source which is a stock based rom with audio quality tweaks and apps and no bloatware. I have an inverted theme so now it looks the way I want and is stable and fast enough.
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Dsp manager still didn't give me audio quality that was good enough for me.
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+1
even with dsp manager or "ultimate one sound" the performance was not even close to stock.
Well personally I would point out another perspective. I am a person always after best price/performance devices either on mobile side and computer side. And I was also looking for a device which can be usable with one hand. HTC One S was the device that struck me with price/performance (S4 variant of course) build quality etc. it really worth every single franks I paid for it. But there is an issue. If your girlfriend wants a mobil which she can use with one hand, although HOS seems best bet you can get it's fairly hard to use with only one hand. most of the time you need the help of other hand. And if you already had to use two hands why to narrow your selection? Another thing: It's really hard to use it without a case which provides a firm grip. otherwise our phone is as slippery as a fish.
[Q] Seriously considering buying GS6 but I have questions regarding UI mods & roms
First off, a huge thank you to anyone who takes the time to answer these. This might be the first non-AOSP phone i've ever bought.
I know all of the answers will be somewhat speculation since the GS6 is still new but mostly I'm just looking for what's been done in the past with the Samsung Exynos processors. And if I do get one I most likely will be getting a T-Mobile branded one as there does not seem to be a Samsung unlocked version sold in the US, if I'm wrong please correct me there.
So essentially my question is, will these changes be most likely possible.
1) Removing AM/PM from 12 hour clock.
2) Disabling capacitive button light and remapping buttons back to left, multitask to right. or
3) Getting nexus-style soft keys and disabling capacitive buttons.
4) Installing the AOSP Google Dialer and contacts.
So second part is about ROMS.
Now to my understanding the Exynos essentially means no stable 100% working AOSP roms ever. That has been my understanding and part of my reason for staying away from Galaxy S phones. Recently I've seen many places where people are saying just put CM12 on it but then in my own research CM12 or anything similar either seems to not be available or has serious bugs. So is it possible, lets say more than 50% chance that the GS6 will get a 100% stable bug free AOSP rom.
As a follow up to that, if it is possible, based on earlier phones and AOSP roms, does the camera suffer or does it retain the same quality. Sony phones for example, the camera breaks badly if you unlock the bootloader and install AOSP. It requires a locked bootloader and Sony rom to function properly. Also anyway for the fingerprint reader to still work on AOSP?
Second question regarding modded touchwiz roms. Can things like my above questions, and more AOSP like mods be done in these custom roms? Such as full AOSP theming of Samsung apps, stock google apps, and would apps like T-Mobile WiFi calling still work in modded touchwiz roms.
Once again a huge thanks in advance to anyone who helps out with these questions.
1.) Yes, I have done that on my S5.
2.)Once again yes, I have done that on my S5.
3.) I'm sure there's an app for that lol
4.) Idk but I've been wondering the same thing!
Check out MOAR ROM for the Sprint S5, that's what I'm running right now, just to give you an idea of all the mods possible.
From what I've heard, AOSP build will be damn near impossible on the S6, and also from what I've read, the camera does take a major hit in quality. AOSP themeing can be done once Samsung releases the theme SDK that is built into the new TouchWiz in the S6!
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1.) Yes, I have done that on my S5.
2.)Once again yes, I have done that on my S5.
3.) I'm sure there's an app for that lol
4.) Idk but I've been wondering the same thing!
Check out MOAR ROM for the Sprint S5, that's what I'm running right now, just to give you an idea of all the mods possible.
From what I've heard, AOSP build will be damn near impossible on the S6, and also from what I've read, the camera does take a major hit in quality. AOSP themeing can be done once Samsung releases the theme SDK that is built into the new TouchWiz in the S6!
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That rom seems perfect for what I would want, hope the GS6 gets something on par. I love AOSP but luckily Samsung has actually done a pretty decent job with TouchWiz on lollipop and since I simply don't trust Google to make a Nexus phone with a good camera or battery anymore after the N6 I'm really considering the GS6 and I've really been enjoying playing around with it at best buy but obviously coming from 7 years of AOSP it's tough to leave.
Glad 1 and 2 are a yes. Probably my biggest annoyances. Though you mention the S5, that's on a snapdragon correct? I assume from your yes those should still be possible regardless of chipset.
I really hope 4 is possible. I've done a lot of searching but haven't found anything unfortountly. I could live with the Samsung dialer, but I would much prefer to have the Google one.
If the camera quality will degrade with AOSP than I just wouldn't even bother. Camera is probably my biggest reason for the S6 over a new Nexus.
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That rom seems perfect for what I would want, hope the GS6 gets something on par. I love AOSP but luckily Samsung has actually done a pretty decent job with TouchWiz on lollipop and since I simply don't trust Google to make a Nexus phone with a good camera or battery anymore after the N6 I'm really considering the GS6 and I've really been enjoying playing around with it at best buy but obviously coming from 7 years of AOSP it's tough to leave.
Glad 1 and 2 are a yes. Probably my biggest annoyances. Though you mention the S5, that's on a snapdragon correct? I assume from your yes those should still be possible regardless of chipset.
I really hope 4 is possible. I've done a lot of searching but haven't found anything unfortountly. I could live with the Samsung dialer, but I would much prefer to have the Google one.
If the camera quality will degrade with AOSP than I just wouldn't even bother. Camera is probably my biggest reason for the S6 over a new Nexus.
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Yeah man, that ROM made my S5 the amazing phone that I love haha, so much freakn customization within the ROM.
Yes the S5 is on Snapdragon, but MOAR is a TouchWiz based ROM, not AOSP.... and TouchWiz based ROMs won't be a proble, regardless of the chip that's used. And I also would love to see #4 too, but I'm guessing it would have to somehow be ported to work with the S6 & TouchWiz.
Some info on camera quality:
I've had every galaxy phone since the Note 2 / S3.
The camera is always MUCH worse on AOSP/CM roms. Worse than the difference on a Sony going from stock to AOSP.
However now with the new camera API and better 3rd party apps coming out I think it may not be an issue.
I tried the "Snap Camera" app on my Galaxy S6 today and it seemed just as good as the stock Samsung app but I'll have to do more testing.
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Some info on camera quality:
I've had every galaxy phone since the Note 2 / S3.
The camera is always MUCH worse on AOSP/CM roms. Worse than the difference on a Sony going from stock to AOSP.
However now with the new camera API and better 3rd party apps coming out I think it may not be an issue.
I tried the "Snap Camera" app on my Galaxy S6 today and it seemed just as good as the stock Samsung app but I'll have to do more testing.
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Ouch. Well no need to really worry about AOSP now though it would be nice one day. Always the hope Google actually makes a good Nexus 5 again though :laugh: . I would hope that third party apps would retain quality though the new Camera app from Samsung is excellent from my experience demoing it.
JoeFCaputo113 said:
1.) Yes, I have done that on my S5.
2.)Once again yes, I have done that on my S5.
3.) I'm sure there's an app for that lol
4.) Idk but I've been wondering the same thing!
Check out MOAR ROM for the Sprint S5, that's what I'm running right now, just to give you an idea of all the mods possible.
From what I've heard, AOSP build will be damn near impossible on the S6, and also from what I've read, the camera does take a major hit in quality. AOSP themeing can be done once Samsung releases the theme SDK that is built into the new TouchWiz in the S6!
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where have you heard aosp will be impossible?
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where have you heard aosp will be impossible?
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Exynos is not as open (or open at all?) like Qualcom is. Therefore it is REALLY dang hard to get AOSP ROMs.
I'm choosing my new phone and the one think that bothers me of the Z3 (except the badly assembled unities) is the lack of development and I just can't see a reason.
I see really few roms and most of them are just stock with some tweaks.
I don't want to immediately change it, but I cannot understand the reason why
Just conjecturing here, but maybe it's because the camera doesn't have the same functionality on a custom rom, and I know at least I'm perfectly satisfied with stock and Xposed.
Stock is awsome.
We [SONY users] like to keep it simple.
because there is no real need for all those custom roms, most of the custom roms for devices are aosp based with 1 or 2 different tweaks/changes, stock sony does everything it needs to
As others already said, usually custom ROMS are made for better battery, themes, customization but the stock ROM gives you 2 day battery, the official ROM is as close to stock Android as an OEM can get. and with xposed modules and all the mods available, you can customize to your hearts content and basically have a custom ROM of your own.
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As others already said, usually custom ROMS are made for better battery, themes, customization but the stock ROM gives you 2 day battery, the official ROM is as close to stock Android as an OEM can get. and with xposed modules and all the mods available, you can customize to your hearts content and basically have a custom ROM of your own.
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I agree with your view. There is no need to have AOSP roms like with Samsung and LG.
Having said that, pure AOSP is cleaner from a design perspective and CM/PA/Omni are even better than Sony from customization and features.
In my opinion the fact that the Z3 is not selling like other flagship (unfortunately) is attracting less devs.
The initial lack of root with locked bootloader (and linked full go back to stock fall back) slowed down the appetite for modding on this device.
If the Z4/Z5/Z3+ will not be launched soon, I think we'll have a solid H2 2015 in term of roms.
Two reasons I can think of:
1) Sony's stock firmware is awesome, so some developers just get lazy and stay on stock because it's one of the few stock firmwares they can tolerate. I'm one of the founders of Omni, and my Z3 holds the record for the longest time I've ever stayed on stock. I'm working with the Sony AOSP team on bugfixes, eventually Omni will be coming based on Sony's AOSP work
2) While Sony does a GREAT job of supporting community developers, the fact that they have that stupid 6-month release cycle for flagships spreads things thin. Some people have the Z2, some have the Z3, some still have a Z1 and are happy with it and see no reason to upgrade. It didn't help that in some countries, Sony took so long to release devices that the next device was already announced. (Z3 was the first device released in a timely fashion in the USA, and that was still a 1-2 month delay.)
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You said that CM is better then SONY stock.
That' s a LOL everytime and everywhere.
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Understood.
I made my post clearer.
"Having said that, pure AOSP is cleaner from a design perspective and CM/PA/Omni are even better than Sony from customization and features."
You can say everything good about Sony roms (and I do like them) but the fact that CM/Omni has more options to customize and make the device to fit more your needs, is a given IMHO. With some caveat unfortunately (camera quality, battery life.........).
Wait for @Entropy512 to finish his job and you'll never go back to stock!!!!
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Two reasons I can think of:
1) Sony's stock firmware is awesome, so some developers just get lazy and stay on stock because it's one of the few stock firmwares they can tolerate. I'm one of the founders of Omni, and my Z3 holds the record for the longest time I've ever stayed on stock. I'm working with the Sony AOSP team on bugfixes, eventually Omni will be coming based on Sony's AOSP work
2) While Sony does a GREAT job of supporting community developers, the fact that they have that stupid 6-month release cycle for flagships spreads things thin. Some people have the Z2, some have the Z3, some still have a Z1 and are happy with it and see no reason to upgrade. It didn't help that in some countries, Sony took so long to release devices that the next device was already announced. (Z3 was the first device released in a timely fashion in the USA, and that was still a 1-2 month delay.)
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Agreed!
And you point nr 2 equal to a lower commercial success than other flagship.
LG G2 and Galaxy S3 (with its infamous Exynos silicon) had a much better AOSP based roms than the Z3 in the first 8 months of its commercial life.
3.10 Kernel Omni 5.1.1 has to come to the Z3!!! And of course I'm not asking for an ETA!! :crying::crying::crying:
Guys keep it simple.
Tre truth is, Omni rom, pa, cm, any other gives you more control, this is true.
But its also true that sony stock rom is among the best in smartphone world, honestly i tried many custom roms on Xperia Neo, Arc, Arc s, S, Z1, Z3...but always ended to use stock one. Why?. Keep it simple, i like minimalistic sony stock rom, animation and it has all i need. And this thought is shared by many.
If you need few more things, root and instal exposed, there is no need for custom roms.
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Guys keep it simple.
Tre truth is, Omni rom, pa, cm, any other gives you more control, this is true.
But its also true that sony stock rom is among the best in smartphone world, honestly i tried many custom roms on Xperia Neo, Arc, Arc s, S, Z1, Z3...but always ended to use stock one. Why?. Keep it simple, i like minimalistic sony stock rom, animation and it has all i need. And this thought is shared by many.
If you need few more things, root and instal exposed, there is no need for custom roms.
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Agreed.
My only concern is that AOSP has some better element from a style prospective (dialer, settings, contacts).
They could have stick with that style fully and add their useful stuff.
This is the only reason why I'm after a good rom, but in a very relaxed way as I like stock rom a lot.
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This may be unrelated but since Sony is releasing AOSP drivers. How is the camera quality on custom roms compared to stock? As I understood they also released drivers for camera right? Low light of course won't work since it requires DRM but how about on daylight, is the picture quality of custom roms the same with stock?
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This may be unrelated but since Sony is releasing AOSP drivers. How is the camera quality on custom roms compared to stock? As I understood they also released drivers for camera right? Low light of course won't work since it requires DRM but how about on daylight, is the picture quality of custom roms the same with stock?
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Unfortunately camera is the worst part so far. Quality is lower than stock and it produces (regardless the camera app) a fisheye like distortion.
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The understanding I have is that currently right now, since the camera sensor is pretty much shared with everything from 4.3 onwards, CM is using the same 4.3 HALs for all shinano/rhine variants with the IMX220 due to the various issues with 4.4 and later HAL blobs on many devices. cdesai found what is likely the key issue behind 4.4/newer HALs totally failing on locked devices, but there's potentially a more "ideal" solution being worked on that hasn't been released yet so cdesai stopped working on that to focus on other stuff. (As I understand it, you can blame lawyers for it taking longer than we'd hope...)
The Z3 has the same sensor but slightly different optics than the Z2/Z1 - as a result, the camera HALs work but have focusing/distortion issues because they assume the wrong lens. (Smartphone optical systems need heavy vignetting/distortion correction by the HAL.)
If that "ideal" solution doesn't materialize by the time I fix the other higher-priority issues with z3 on my TODO list, I'm going to attempt to continue cdesai's work using 5.0 HALs that are device-specific.
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The understanding I have is that currently right now, since the camera sensor is pretty much shared with everything from 4.3 onwards, CM is using the same 4.3 HALs for all shinano/rhine variants with the IMX220 due to the various issues with 4.4 and later HAL blobs on many devices. cdesai found what is likely the key issue behind 4.4/newer HALs totally failing on locked devices, but there's potentially a more "ideal" solution being worked on that hasn't been released yet so cdesai stopped working on that to focus on other stuff. (As I understand it, you can blame lawyers for it taking longer than we'd hope...)
The Z3 has the same sensor but slightly different optics than the Z2/Z1 - as a result, the camera HALs work but have focusing/distortion issues because they assume the wrong lens. (Smartphone optical systems need heavy vignetting/distortion correction by the HAL.)
If that "ideal" solution doesn't materialize by the time I fix the other higher-priority issues with z3 on my TODO list, I'm going to attempt to continue cdesai's work using 5.0 HALs that are device-specific.
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That's great to hear.
Can you list what are the otherwise bugs you're working on?
Thanks.
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vittogn said:
That's great to hear.
Can you list what are the otherwise bugs you're working on?
Thanks.
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Z3 AOSP (and Omni):
Pixel corruption on AUO panels
Issues with Bluetooth reconnection on BF64 kernel (walk out of range of the phone with a Moto 360 and it won't reconnect until you reboot.)
General Omni:
CAF av/native ifdefing (this nightmare is the one thing blocking nightlies)
Preliminary work on a new theme engine more capable than Layers but still much lighter weight than CMTE.
One reason not mentioned in this thread in support of custom ROMs is the ability to not have any gapps. Despite how good the stock UI is, an AOSP based rom will be required if you want extra privacy.
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Z3 AOSP (and Omni):
Pixel corruption on AUO panels
Issues with Bluetooth reconnection on BF64 kernel (walk out of range of the phone with a Moto 360 and it won't reconnect until you reboot.)
General Omni:
CAF av/native ifdefing (this nightmare is the one thing blocking nightlies)
Preliminary work on a new theme engine more capable than Layers but still much lighter weight than CMTE.
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That doesn't sound bad at all!!
Is pixel corruption the fish-eye camera bug?
Hope to hear for a bug free Omni soon.
Is the recenlty announced Sony recovery support going to help you guys or it will be just a better flashing experience for end users?
Thanks.
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That doesn't sound bad at all!!
Is pixel corruption the fish-eye camera bug?
Hope to hear for a bug free Omni soon.
Is the recenlty announced Sony recovery support going to help you guys or it will be just a better flashing experience for end users?
Thanks.
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Makes everyone's lives easier.
And the pixel corruption is a display issue, specific to 3.10 kernels and the Z3. Fixes have been identified for Sharp and JDI panels, but AUO panels are harder. (In general, there are a lot of issues with 3.10 and command mode panels. All sirius panel definitions were for video mode, leo has 5 panel definitions - command and video for sharp and JDI, but only a command mode timing definition for AUO panels. So we need to either figure out why command mode panels are so funky - we've made a lot of progress but not fixed everything, or we need to reverse engineer a proper video mode timing definition for AUO panels.)
I haven't even started on camera. I hate cellphone cameras so I've basically lived without any camera at all on my z3 for the past two months. If I really want to share a picture from my phone - that's what my a6000's wifi is for.
Entropy512 said:
Makes everyone's lives easier.
And the pixel corruption is a display issue, specific to 3.10 kernels and the Z3. Fixes have been identified for Sharp and JDI panels, but AUO panels are harder. (In general, there are a lot of issues with 3.10 and command mode panels. All sirius panel definitions were for video mode, leo has 5 panel definitions - command and video for sharp and JDI, but only a command mode timing definition for AUO panels. So we need to either figure out why command mode panels are so funky - we've made a lot of progress but not fixed everything, or we need to reverse engineer a proper video mode timing definition for AUO panels.)
I haven't even started on camera. I hate cellphone cameras so I've basically lived without any camera at all on my z3 for the past two months. If I really want to share a picture from my phone - that's what my a6000's wifi is for.
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Thanks for the update. I sold my 5d for an a6000 because of portability.
I don't consider phones as camera alternatives, but they are better and better and you always have your phone with you. The Z3 sensor and lenses combination deserve a good treatment!
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Is there any 3rd Party camera apps that work as good as the stock app for the GS7 but with better HDR? I was looking at the play store but there's hundreds of apps and I don't know what really works good these days. I have tried other apps in the past on other phones but never got used to them or liked them. What are others using?
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Is there any 3rd Party camera apps that work as good as the stock app for the GS7 but with better HDR? I was looking at the play store but there's hundreds of apps and I don't know what really works good these days. I have tried other apps in the past on other phones but never got used to them or liked them. What are others using?
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I also tried a lot of camera apps (Note 4 + SGS 7 Edge), but in my opinion no 3rd party app can ever match the picture quality of the stock camera.
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I also tried a lot of camera apps (Note 4 + SGS 7 Edge), but in my opinion no 3rd party app can ever match the picture quality of the stock camera.
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plus i haven't found a 3rd party camera android or ios that will let you take pictures while recording video like the stock cameras do nowadays.
Always found stock to be best, even with my S5
One of the reasons I didn't stick with custom ROMs for long
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Always found stock to be best, even with my S5
One of the reasons I didn't stick with custom ROMs for long
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So getting the Google Pixel probably isn't the best thing to do then if one wants a better camera then googles "simple" camera. I prefer getting a good phone with a good stock camera from experience with other phones, moto Razer HD and HTC One M7.
after reading and watching tons of reviews and reading forums, so far the GS7 is about the best phone for me at this time overall. I guess i'll stick with it till the next best thing next year. Now if i can get a camera app that does HDR as good as the Pixel.
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So getting the Google Pixel probably isn't the best thing to do then if one wants a better camera then googles "simple" camera. I prefer getting a good phone with a good stock camera from experience with other phones, moto Razer HD and HTC One M7.
after reading and watching tons of reviews and reading forums, so far the GS7 is about the best phone for me at this time overall. I guess i'll stick with it till the next best thing next year. Now if i can get a camera app that does HDR as good as the Pixel.
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The Google Pixel camera will be optimised to it's own camera app, afaik reason stock camera app for the Galaxy phones is best, is down to the camera drivers and algorithms it uses, other camera apps can't produce the same quality
Especially when you are not running a TW ROM (as experienced with Galaxy S5)
Using the Galaxy stock camera app on a Google pixel probably wouldn't look great either
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Is there any 3rd Party camera apps that work as good as the stock app for the GS7 but with better HDR? I was looking at the play store but there's hundreds of apps and I don't know what really works good these days. I have tried other apps in the past on other phones but never got used to them or liked them. What are others using?
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Why dont u use snapspeed app to alter HDR and other settings but the galaxy camera app is best
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plus i haven't found a 3rd party camera android or ios that will let you take pictures while recording video like the stock cameras do nowadays.
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I was looking for a app that rivals the burst mode of the S7 at full resolution and speed. I have found nothing yet in the play store. Wish there was a way to keep the stock camera on. It cuts off after about 2mins on it's own if you don't touch the screen.
francisamarsingh said:
Why dont u use snapspeed app to alter HDR and other settings but the galaxy camera app is best
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I do use Snapseed when i want something edited in a hurry before copying everything to the computer and editing with photoshop. i find it tedious editing on the phone though and when i have thousands of pictures to go through. it's easier on a real desktop monitor to see how good things look to know if i want to delete or not. I love Snapseed but like any other app on the phone they don't have an option to resize the resolution. i copy the originals to the computer for eventual burning off and pick favorites to edit and copy back to the phone.