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I've spent countless hours going through the forums...
Out of all of the roms that I have tried I would claim eOS is the fastest non buggiest rom out there. It is very streamlined and fast, and I had 0 bugs when using it, if that is all that you are concerned with. It is lacking in some features by default, letting users personalize it as they wish.
Jason
How was responsiveness? Do you know if there are any benchmarks out there (I'm lazy, thought I'd ask for a direct link before looking it up...) for it?
Forgot to also ask; with any of the ROM's - which one's are most friendliest when it comes to adding new cabs? I guess my goal is utilize the processor and... add those things we all like to screw around with for a week or two and decide if its worth keeping. Usually in my case, if it causes my phone to freeze, it's off to the next choice...
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I've spent countless hours going through the forums and figured I'd ask. Please note, I'm asking not for your opinion, or what you're favorite ROM is, regardless what drives it or what extras are on it... I'm asking everyone for some facts - as of today, 12.13.2008, who has the fastest, non-buggiest ROM around? ROM's are buried everywhere and some include benchmarks, others don't. I'm on AT&T and a,s of last night, went back to the OEM 6.1 ROM.
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There is no way to have software and not have bugs. NOTHING is going to perform EXACTLY as you want it to right out of the box.
To see what everyone WOULD respond to your message with if they wanted to - look at their signature - why would they use it if they thought it was buggy or bad?
You are going to have to configure your phone no matter what. You will get (if the mods let this thread stay open) many opinions (just like the zillions of other threads that ask this question) from people who have not gotten tired of answering it.
The only way to find out what you like and what is non-buggy in your opinon you are actually going to have to download and try each of the ROM's.
Sorry - I wish it were simpler than that - but it isn't.
Two posts and you have already violated a rule this is not going to go well obiwan!
The rule:
If you post a redundant thread, SPAM, flame or violate any rules. Your thread will be closed or deleted without warning. Useless threads like those that address an issue such as "Which ROM is the best," "Kaiser vs iPhone," or "Kaiser Killer" will be closed. You could also be banned for violating the rules.
To find a list of the rules:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=378
You state you have read a lot - I believe you - there is a lot to read. But - you are going to need to read even more to make yourself happy I am afraid.
Thanks for the input - that's why I was/am looking for stat's/results/screen shots of benchmarks, etc - just the facts.
The best way to find the answer to your question is to read the rom's threats, put the doubts about the rom's there and flashed then.
And you'll be a flash addicted like me.
This one screams...its the fastest one I have found yet......and the memory...oh the memory available is the best yet too. Give his one a try.
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I've spent countless hours going through the forums...
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if u have spent countless hours reading the forums you should know that you should not be starting new threads, filling up our forum with questions like this!
gregaplummer said:
This one screams...its the fastest one I have found yet......and the memory...oh the memory available is the best yet too. Give his one a try.
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When you say "this one" to which one are you referring too....
As posted in countless other places, all "best rom" threads will be closed.
Lately I have seen so many "what rom is best for my first flash" or "Help me decide what rom is best for me" threads and they are POINTLESS! Granted there are an abundance of new and old custom roms, everyone has different experiences and opinions on what rom is best.
So... NOOBS:
If you want to know what rom is best for YOU do the following:
- Go to the Android Development Section and read through different [ROM] threads to see what features will work best for you. I have also found it useful to read through the last couple of pages to see what other users think about the current version of the rom.
- If you don't know what certain terms in the rom thread mean or affect (ie. kernel, modem, OC/UV, Gps tweaks) locate the search bar in the top right corner of the page or browse through this page
- Once you have decided what rom you want to try out, you need to learn how to flash the rom. Most of the Developers post instructions but they can be confusing to some of the less experienced flashers. nbs11 has posted a thread about how to do this here and Connexion2005 was nice enough to make videos of the general steps: Flashing back to stock using odin3 , 3 Part video series for flashing roms: video 1 , video 2 , video 3
- Now that you know how to choose and flash a rom just try out different roms until you find one that you like and gives you all the features you are looking for.
- If you find the theme of a certain rom ugly or obnoxious, head over to the Captivate themes and apps section and look through different [THEME] threads until you find one that you like. Make sure the theme is compatible with the rom you have just flashed or are planning to flash.
- If you accidentally brick your phone, read How to unbrick the captivate or if that doesn't work, Unbrick the captivate for only $0.99
-Some useful links other members have posted:
One-Click Root - root your captivate in one click!
Build #1010 or above flash back to stock
My hopes of this thread are to save the Captivate general section from becoming a section full of useless threads. So if you are new, please use these steps and do the research to find a Rom that is right for YOU!
Cheers,
Alex
Thanks, + 1 sticky
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I second that sticky request please. Great piece of work!
Eh....Ii think a lot of us are guilty of expecting too much from "noobs." I remember being new and told to scour hundreds of pages of indecipherable text. Yeah right. I just want to flash my phone! Obviously not everyone does it. I hate to say it, but the forums are not very noob friendly. I recently tried suggesting an idea about organization of themes.....but no one even replied to my idea. Last I checked (correct me if I'm wrong) but the wiki is just a link to the sub forums. Someone tried to organize Rom features....but I don't think it hasn't been updated in a while. But I haven't checked
I would still like to create an easy to browse page full of apk's. Maybe I can find some time and a place to upload.....
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Eh....Ii think a lot of us are guilty of expecting too much from "noobs." I remember being new and told to scour hundreds of pages of indecipherable text. Yeah right. I just want to flash my phone! Obviously not everyone does it. I hate to say it, but the forums are not very noob friendly. I recently tried suggesting an idea about organization of themes.....but no one even replied to my idea. Last I checked (correct me if I'm wrong) but the wiki is just a link to the sub forums. Someone tried to organize Rom features....but I don't think it hasn't been updated in a while. But I haven't checked
I would still like to create an easy to browse page full of apk's. Maybe I can find some time and a place to upload.....
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Sure we might expect too much, but I think we should at least give them some guidance to flashing new roms. Since there is so much information out there it can be quite overwhelming to newcomers, which is why I tried to summarize and compile the best information I know of here.
I think your ideas of compiling themes into a one stop shop would be awesome if you kept it updated. I personally would just start a new thread and divide it into the most popular Roms out at the time, and paste links to whichever ones worked for that rom under the heading.
Gave you a 'thanks' and, AMEN!
Stickied, thanks for your contribution
very good useful information
Would the Cognition instructions work for other roms as well? For example, Phoenix 3.5?
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Would the Cognition instructions work for other roms as well? For example, Phoenix 3.5?
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To be honest, I have never flashed cog so I am not sure. But here is what I ALWAYS do, and everything works out for the different roms i have flashed.
1. Backup Apps and App data with TiBackup (not system data!!!)
2. Put phone in download mode
3. Open odin3 on computer
4. Plug phone in to computer, wait for odin to say "added"
5. Press start and wait to see if a blue line starts to apear on the phone
6. If the blue line appears wait for odin to finish, if it does not unplug the phone and hope it has not bricked. See the bottom of the OP if your phone is bricked.
7. Once rebooted, use one click root to root phone
8. Open droid explorer and move the CWM update.zip (see attachment to this post) to your phone as well as the rom you are flashing
9. Boot into recovery and "reinstall packages" usually twice until you get into CWM recovery
10. navigate to install zip from sd > choose zip from sd > (rom zip) > yes
11. once done click go back > reboot phone
12. If it asks you to convert data and partition click the first choice, something like convert all data and files, wait for it to finish
13. enjoi!
*NOTE* this assumes you have the correct drivers installed on your computer and that you have tested to make sure they work. I am not responsible if you follow these instructions and fubar your phone.
Does this work for Canadian ROGERS devices?
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Does this work for Canadian ROGERS devices?
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I am not Canadian and haven't used a Canadian device, so I would not be able to tell you. Sorry.
It is what it is
I'm a bit torn by the thread topic, but I do understand. What lead me to this thread was the realization that I was prohibited from submitting a post on the Android Dev forum. It would have been my first post, as I had been testing and writing down the results of my experiences with flashing ROMs that are currently offered. After doing some reading, I found that a minimum of 9 posts were required before posting priviledges available for the dev forum. A little disappointed, but I could deal with that...until I read the opening of this thread. On one hand, I understand that every post has its place and in order for a forum to run smoothly, respect and etiquette is paramount. However, the tone of the post had a kinda, "don't interfere in grown folk business" feel to it; a noob-tolerance, but "stay in your place-ness" IMHO. We were all noobs at some point. Perhaps it's a little easier for some to remember than others. Like I said, I understand. Both sides (Moderators and noobs) have to put themselves in each others shoes to make it work.
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A little disappointed, but I could deal with that...until I read the opening of this thread. On one hand, I understand that every post has its place and in order for a forum to run smoothly, respect and etiquette is paramount. However, the tone of the post had a kinda, "don't interfere in grown folk business" feel to it; a noob-tolerance, but "stay in your place-ness" IMHO. We were all noobs at some point. Perhaps it's a little easier for some to remember than others. Like I said, I understand. Both sides (Moderators and noobs) have to put themselves in each others shoes to make it work.
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This thread is not discouraging noobs from posting or being a part of the forum, in fact following the guide will do the opposite by getting them involved in rom discussions with other members.
I am encouraging noobs to try things for themselves instead of relying on what other people claim to be the "best rom" for them. This was not meant to be an "elitist thread" simply because I haven't even been here that long, just trying to de-clutter the captivate general forum.
I have to throw a wrench into this system.....sorry....there seems to be a lot of complaints about posts in the wrong area. This happens A LOT. I have to take the"noob" side for a minute. Maybe instead of everyone jumping on new members, we find a better way to organize the information. Searching sucks, admit it. I know what I am looking for so I should be able to drill down through the forums to find it. I tried searching for a specific email.apk and gave up after 10 minutes of flipping through posts. There are all walks of people in the development forums. After all, that is where the good stuff is kept. So of course questions are going to be raised there. You are never going to win the war against new members not knowing the culture of this forum. Instead, let's start getting some ideas together on how we can make it more user friendly for everyone.
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I have to throw a wrench into this system.....sorry....there seems to be a lot of complaints about posts in the wrong area. This happens A LOT. I have to take the"noob" side for a minute. Maybe instead of everyone jumping on new members, we find a better way to organize the information. Searching sucks, admit it. I know what I am looking for so I should be able to drill down through the forums to find it. I tried searching for a specific email.apk and gave up after 10 minutes of flipping through posts. There are all walks of people in the development forums. After all, that is where the good stuff is kept. So of course questions are going to be raised there. You are never going to win the war against new members not knowing the culture of this forum. Instead, let's start getting some ideas together on how we can make it more user friendly for everyone.
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Ok so I have to ask, did you even read this thread?
The sole purpose of this thread was to guide new users to flashing new roms, that way they would stop making new threads in the captivate general section asking other users which rom is best.
No where did I mention anything about the development section or new members posting in the wrong section.
If you can't find things with search then try altering your search methods, ie change the "sort results by" drop down box to Relevancy. Often times I just do a google search of "xda (whatever i am looking for)" without the quotes and find what I am looking for in a matter of seconds or minutes.
If you feel like the forum is unorganized, do something about it like I did, don't just sit on your ass. Start a thread with all of the relevant .apk's you think need to be compiled while allowing other users to contribute or don't complain.
I did, but it sounds like many threads I've read in the past over and over again. I could have swore I've read this topic several times here, but perhaps I am mistaken. I follow several forums here at XDA and it is extremely possible my frustrations lie from reading this topic in multiple locations, not just within the Captivate section.
After searching around, I realize that there are not as many threads like this within the Captivate section as I had thought. My apologies for coming off wrong; however,
I do feel like some of the repositories here are disorganized, and have even tried mentioning it, but my thread got absolutely NO response, and it was in what I thought would be the correct section (asking about a list of apks in the Themes and Apps Section). Ah, oh well. Guess my fuse has been a little short recently. I wish I had more free time than just the 15 minutes here and there. I REALLY want to work on sorting the WiKi, but I'm married, so I've ALWAYS got other things to do.
Now that I feel I've completely torn the thread off topic, I'm going back to work
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This thread is not discouraging noobs from posting or being a part of the forum, in fact following the guide will do the opposite by getting them involved in rom discussions with other members.
I am encouraging noobs to try things for themselves instead of relying on what other people claim to be the "best rom" for them. This was not meant to be an "elitist thread" simply because I haven't even been here that long, just trying to de-clutter the captivate general forum.
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Thanks for the response. Didn't mean to be overly critical of the thread. Simply wanted to express how both sides of the argument can be seen as valid and relevant. I've seen harsh criticisms from seasoned contributors as well as inconsiderate inquiries from new posters that indicate no effort to find an answer prior to posting. No offense intented and thanks for your contribution to the community.
Maybe you can change the thread topic to sound a little less hostile towards new members. New xda users read this first or New posters or anything but "n00bs"
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Maybe you can change the thread topic to sound a little less hostile towards new members. New xda users read this first or New posters or anything but "n00bs"
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Edited title.
Hello everyone.
That's my issue may not be the right place, but this is where I find the most relevant, since for this section.
I think for some time the number of threads are increasing enormously for new ROM, which is fine because it shows that the community is very active) but many of the Roma are found to be the same base or from ports of other devices, and there are so many with names that look alike or have nothing to do with the content (I will not name to avoid any controversy and stay in a general term) that we end by not knowing what exactly that is.
So I think it should be revamped a little with all that can be sub-sections by Dev ports or Roma, ways to try to eclaicir section and avoid ending up finally with questions about a thread that has nothing to do with this thread Rom.
That's what I feel for a very short time and I think it would be good for both dev and users of éclaicir things.
When do you think??
Arma, a user begins to consider warning from the time I practice android flash device.
This makes little to no sense, so can't really reply. Think youre essentially saying that maybe devs combine their different ROM releases into single threads?
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This makes little to no sense, so can't really reply. Think youre essentially saying that maybe devs combine their different ROM releases into single threads?
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Or subforums? So the DHD Dev subforum has a couple more subforums within it (one for ported ROMs, one for ROMS built on a native base)? That's how I read it anyway.
Sorry for my bad english (google translation), but yes I think it would be although it is organized by several sub-forums, for example, the ports of other phones, stock rom, rom MluI, or do that every dev its own sub-forums, and finally they are ideas, see what might appeal without being overly burdensome for devs who already have enough to do.
If someone else with ideas on how to build the threads?
The discussion is now open.
I think people would over see things and it would be a mess then a dev gets a new device and his sub forum is left behind and annoy like sticky threads
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sub forms like : Sense Development, MIUI Development and Ported roms development would be super cool and better than just one single development section.
It takes me a roughly 15-20 mins just to find a thread here lol
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sub forms like : Sense Development, MIUI Development and Ported roms development would be super cool and better than just one single development section.
It takes me a roughly 15-20 mins just to find a thread here lol
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I totally agree to that!!
Agreed. Either that, or we need someone to keep an updated sticky again. But a "Utilities" section, for radios, RILs, and recoveries would be a good idea also.
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sub forms like : Sense Development, MIUI Development and Ported roms development would be super cool and better than just one single development section.
It takes me a roughly 15-20 mins just to find a thread here lol
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And not to forget kernel, RIL and RADIO
Dear All,
Excuse me if I start a new thread here but it is my understanding that certain questions are not to be made in the development section.
I know much has to do with personal taste, your own experience and research, but I am coming from an HTC Aria, and I am looking for a custom ROM for my Inspire.
There are many ROM's posted that I know and appreciate have a lot of hard work and dedication from developers and unconditional testers and followers, as for instance the specific ROM thread for BinDroid's ROM itself alone has close to 900 posts, so please don't be offended by my questions, as for what I have seen and managed to read it seems to be that this might be what I am looking for:
Is this a stable ROM for daily use?
Are there any trade-off's / sacrifices (camara, video, flash, sound, buttons, gps, etc? that don't work or have limitations?)
I can understand that for many long time users and followers there can be "known issues" , but please understand that for newcommers these are not, so your kind comments will be most welcome.
I thank you all for your support and look forward to your answers and any recomendations that you may have.
Cheers!
I would say this Rom is stable for a daily use. For awhile I was running this Rom for little over 2 months. It's very clean. Its one of the handful of roms out here that works form start to finish. The support from the inspire to the desire hd threads for this is very quick if you had any issue that you may come across. I couldn't remember the last time I.had any major issue when using this. Battery life is great if you do a lot of Pandora browsing uploads like to fb etc. Works for me with my inspire. So would differently say flash this sucker.. its worth it.
If I remember right the only thing I did was a different kernel and a uv script lite other then that bad ass.
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Dear All,
Excuse me if I start a new thread here but it is my understanding that certain questions are not to be made in the development section.
I know much has to do with personal taste, your own experience and research, but I am coming from an HTC Aria, and I am looking for a custom ROM for my Inspire.
There are many ROM's posted that I know and appreciate have a lot of hard work and dedication from developers and unconditional testers and followers, as for instance the specific ROM thread for BinDroid's ROM itself alone has close to 900 posts, so please don't be offended by my questions, as for what I have seen and managed to read it seems to be that this might be what I am looking for:
Is this a stable ROM for daily use?
Are there any trade-off's / sacrifices (camara, video, flash, sound, buttons, gps, etc? that don't work or have limitations?)
I can understand that for many long time users and followers there can be "known issues" , but please understand that for newcommers these are not, so your kind comments will be most welcome.
I thank you all for your support and look forward to your answers and any recomendations that you may have.
Cheers!
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Let's first start with, welcome! Secondly, while you're correct dev threads are typically (depends on the dev team or individual developing the ROM) are reserved for development, there are Q&A's for each respective ROM that you should use to ask questions regarding a specific ROM. If everyone created a separate thread about each question they had for each ROM they use you can see how chaotic the forums would get.
The best way to figure out what "issues" a ROM has is to read some of the recent posts in both the Q&A and Dev section, you'll see there what most people are dealing with. Most ROMs here are pretty stable and I would say fine for daily use (ICS has some minor bugs due to source issues but from what I'm seeing there are a couple of somewhat stable ICS builds).Remember this is a development site, so some independent searching and reading is expected on your part.
As for Bindroid, I used it way back when they firsant started with sense 3.5 and loved it. Danny and the team are real nice guys and do great work. I would say that ROM is more then capable of being a stable, daily driver. Just remember, only you can decide what you can live with and c live without. All ROMs come with trade offs, some users don't mind them and don't even consider them trade offs or issues which is why you need to decide for yourself. Goood luck man!
i wanted to add something but as usual tread like"Why are ROM suggestion threads disappearing?" are being locked as soon as someone starts a conversation, so mods i hope you read this and actually think about it
To All Mods: before you lock this tread, please read it at least twice. I think you forgot what forum is all about. Its about users communicating with each other. Of course i agree with rules but your guys are going overboard with this. Discussion about which rom is perfoming the best for users is very very normal type of tread. Your argument is that there is flamming etc. well ok, but shouldn't moderators "moderate"?? when threads became our of control or people become nasty they you are suppose to lock it. Not lock it as soon it shows up, because you "assume" it will.
I would love to talk to others about how are roms doing on their devices. Yes everyones' usage is different but THE BASICS will always be the same. If a rom is doing exeptionally well for most of the users than we can pretty much agree that is a good rom. This is what we "call good information".
so lets hope you guys understand what im trying to tell you and relax a little
Now your spamming remember mods decisions are final
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Anything ICS is very stable. Its simply preference whether you go touchwiz or aosp. Jelly bean is getting there and almost all share similar problems as they are built from source using many of the same commits. You have many cm10 builds to choose from coming out of project rookie and Vincom has a build out. AOKP for JB includes R4ins builds and a spin off Majick made called Orthus One using R4ins build as a base. I know I listed options and didn't tell you what to pick. Its your phone and your decision. The reason people don't like threads like this is because intentional or not you are putting someone's work above another's. If you must get info on peoples preference then send PM's. There is no need for a public forum debate on what's best. What I like, you may not and vice versa. There aren't bad Roms these days. It really is preference only. This thread will be locked just as your last one was. If you are so worried about stability then stay on ICS. If you must go for JB then simply read the various threads, OP's and go from there. It doesn't take that long to flash a ROM haha.
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not spamming, im just trying to get my point across but i am unable. all im asking and i dont think im the only one is for mods to relax a little.
thanks, have a good day
no need to put someone's work about others?? if it is better then it definitely should be recognized
edit: reminds me of a communism ideology... no need to put someone's work above others.. ha this is too funny
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i wanted to add something but as usual tread like"Why are ROM suggestion threads disappearing?" are being locked as soon as someone starts a conversation, so mods i hope you read this and actually think about it
To All Mods: before you lock this tread, please read it at least twice. I think you forgot what forum is all about. Its about users communicating with each other. Of course i agree with rules but your guys are going overboard with this. Discussion about which rom is perfoming the best for users is very very normal type of tread. Your argument is that there is flamming etc. well ok, but shouldn't moderators "moderate"?? when threads became our of control or people become nasty they you are suppose to lock it. Not lock it as soon it shows up, because you "assume" it will.
I would love to talk to others about how are roms doing on their devices. Yes everyones' usage is different but THE BASICS will always be the same. If a rom is doing exeptionally well for most of the users than we can pretty much agree that is a good rom. This is what we "call good information".
so lets hope you guys understand what im trying to tell you and relax a little
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Isnt there already a thread on new rom ideas??? Maybe thats why those "rom suggestion" threads are getting locked or if u have a suggestion for a rom it should be asked in that roms specific thread so the rom dev can see the suggestion thenselves instead of having to look at another thread
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I want mods to crack down harder on people ASKING QUESTIONS IN THE GENERAL SECTION people who refuse to read and search people who feel this site is a help desk people who by creating these threads demean others hard work but I guess you new guys feel entitled to ruin a once great site huh
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Isnt there already a thread on new rom ideas??? Maybe thats why those "rom suggestion" threads are getting locked or if u have a suggestion for a rom it should be asked in that roms specific thread so the rom dev can see the suggestion thenselves instead of having to look at another thread
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The OP title is misleading. He actually wants to a best ROM thread. Ie. for TW ICS, AOSP ICS, AOSP JB
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I just want to jump in here and say I agree, some of the moderating here is overzealous. Discussions of battery life / ROM's that he/she enjoys are pertinent. Dealing in absolutes are annoying sometimes, and there's nothing wrong with getting a community's subjective perspective. Moderators should moderate, not control.
The only problem is the userbase here can't be trusted to not erupt into flame fests.
Which should bring the moderators in to MODERATE, not block a thread because it might happen.
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I just want to jump in here and say I agree, some of the moderating here is overzealous. Discussions of battery life / ROM's that he/she enjoys are pertinent. Dealing in absolutes are annoying sometimes, and there's nothing wrong with getting a community's subjective perspective. Moderators should moderate, not control.
The only problem is the userbase here can't be trusted to not erupt into flame fests.
Which should bring the moderators in to MODERATE, not block a thread because it might happen.
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I would agree if it was ONE but the issue I see in every other section is that 20+ exist of all those what's the most stable what's the best who gets best battery life who makes my dinner better its stupid if noons could keep it to one thread per subject wars would never happen if they could follow rules and read and search but you know it won't happen so it will open Pandoras box most of us saw it when we had an absence of moderators and it made many of us mad and bitter ask the old timers here it was mad how many ICS threads got made in a day I thank PR for destroying all those threads and putting a stop to most of the problems
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I would agree if it was ONE but the issue I see in every other section is that 20+ exist of all those what's the most stable what's the best who gets best battery life who makes my dinner better its stupid if noons could keep it to one thread per subject wars would never happen if they could follow rules and read and search but you know it won't happen so it will open Pandoras box most of us saw it when we had an absence of moderators and it made many of us mad and bitter ask the old timers here it was mad how many ICS threads got made in a day I thank PR for destroying all those threads and putting a stop to most of the problems
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Lol "old timers"
The fact that you're getting so angry about a forum is honestly really funny
I think just how mods monitor the OT thread for bad language and such we should have a thread for suggestions that gets monitored. Granted, it'll be more work but I'm sure it'll be better than having reports from you flooding them every 50 seconds.
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jerzey111 said:
I would love to talk to others about how are roms doing on their devices. Yes everyones' usage is different but THE BASICS will always be the same. If a rom is doing exeptionally well for most of the users than we can pretty much agree that is a good rom. This is what we "call good information".
so lets hope you guys understand what im trying to tell you and relax a little
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Tons of discussion in the Development section, in each of the ROMs' threads, about how the ROMs are doing on users phones. Give it a look. A thread in the General forum comparing ROMs will, as others have pointed out, end up turning into an argument and be counterproductive. At best it's redundant.
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Reposting threads close by mods is always going to elicit heated discussion and is typically just a play for attention anyway.
MaxCarnage said:
Tons of discussion in the Development section, in each of the ROMs' threads, about how the ROMs are doing on users phones. Give it a look. A thread in the General forum comparing ROMs will, as others have pointed out, end up turning into an argument and be counterproductive. At best it's redundant.
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The development section / ROM threads are scattered, and not a consolidated place to discuss issues/favorites/subjective ideas. I think we need a thread that allows us to discuss our preferences because hopping from thread to thread in the development section is annoying, you can lose some information in the shuffle, and getting others opinions' are helpful.
Battery life, Favorite ROMs, features you like / dislike, settings for DPI, etc all should fall into a "General ROM Specifics Discussion" thread that is MODERATED by PR as it goes on. Not stopped before it has a chance to grow into something good.
I'll agree w/ Illnevertell, this thread is a meta this is why we can't have nice things
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I'd like to think this is a discussion still.
whosgotlag said:
The development section / ROM threads are scattered, and not a consolidated place to discuss issues/favorites/subjective ideas. I think we need a thread that allows us to discuss our preferences because hopping from thread to thread in the development section is annoying, you can lose some information in the shuffle, and getting others opinions' are helpful.
Battery life, Favorite ROMs, features you like / dislike, settings for DPI, etc all should fall into a "General ROM Specifics Discussion" thread that is MODERATED by PR as it goes on. Not stopped before it has a chance to grow into something good.
I'll agree w/ Illnevertell, this thread is a meta this is why we can't have nice things
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One thing that I generally see in every thread when someone asks if a ROM is "good" or would suit their needs, the universal answer is "try it for yourself". Every phone is different; what works for some won't work for others. I'm not sure how conducive it is to the development environment to have a thread where everyone is free to get together and give feedback on ROMs in a place where the developers may not see it.
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One thing that I generally see in every thread when someone asks if a ROM is "good" or would suit their needs, the universal answer is "try it for yourself". Every phone is different; what works for some won't work for others. I'm not sure how conducive it is to the development environment to have a thread where everyone is free to get together and give feedback on ROMs in a place where the developers may not see it.
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It's not conducive to the developer environment, it's for the users. Questions like "Is ParanoidAndroid a good ROM?" are stupid, I'm against those.
What I'm not against would be questions/comments like:
What's battery life like on CM10 for you guys?
What settings are your ParanoidAndroid tablet/phablet/phone valued at?
I'm getting 2.5 hours of screen time w/ texting/reddit/tapatalk on X ROM, how're you all doing with it?
I just tried Rezoundbeats on PA, and it works ****ing awesome.
I just got 4.5 hours of screen on time [screenshot]!
I'm confused about AOKP/CM/PA/ETC, what are the benefits of X vs. X.
I've tried X,X,and Y, I've heard good things about X, anyone else on it?
Is anyone using TouchWiz based ROMs? If so why?
Is anyone still using ICS? If so why?
Is anyone using AOSP ROMs? If so why?
There are a number of discussions that could arise from any of the above, and as long as the thread remains flame free they should be allowed to exist because while answers may not be THAT much of a help to you personally, others' insight may prove useful or at the very least interesting.
I'd only be in favor of this thread if it was hosted by PR bassplayer, just like the JB discussion thread.
whosgotlag said:
It's not conducive to the developer environment, it's for the users. Questions like "Is ParanoidAndroid a good ROM?" are stupid, I'm against those.
What I'm not against would be questions/comments like:
What's battery life like on CM10 for you guys?
What settings are your ParanoidAndroid tablet/phablet/phone valued at?
I'm getting 2.5 hours of screen time w/ texting/reddit/tapatalk on X ROM, how're you all doing with it?
I just tried Rezoundbeats on PA, and it works ****ing awesome.
I just got 4.5 hours of screen on time [screenshot]!
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Virtually every one of those questions are better asked (or, more likely, already asked) in their respective development threads.
I'm confused about AOKP/CM/PA/ETC, what are the benefits of X vs. X.
I've tried X,X,and Y, I've heard good things about X, anyone else on it?
Is anyone using TouchWiz based ROMs? If so why?
Is anyone still using ICS? If so why?
Is anyone using AOSP ROMs? If so why?
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Threads that could/should be created in the QA forum as their own topics.
Throwing all these questions/discussions in a single thread would lead to utter chaos and there would be little constructive conversation. Individually threads already often descend into chaos; one thread with no specific topic for discussion would do little better in my opinion. Ultimately, this is all for naught because the thread was already locked and rejected.
I want PR to start giving infractions for every thread made in the wrong section I want infractions for those that won't search those are rules too just like no flaming so why is it I get hit with infractions for breaking rules when others are left with nothing huh where is the fairness in that why is it you can ask questions in general section or dev section why can people start threads on subjects already covered and not get in trouble but if I tell you your wrong and call you out for your lack of etiquette I get the hammer huh why is that fair so welcome to the world it ain't fair y'all keep breaking rules and getting away with it I will continue to stand up and fight and take my punishments
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I want PR to start giving infractions for every thread made in the wrong section I want infractions for those that won't search those are rules too just like no flaming so why is it I get hit with infractions for breaking rules when others are left with nothing huh where is the fairness in that why is it you can ask questions in general section or dev section why can people start threads on subjects already covered and not get in trouble but if I tell you your wrong and call you out for your lack of etiquette I get the hammer huh why is that fair so welcome to the world it ain't fair y'all keep breaking rules and getting away with it I will continue to stand up and fight and take my punishments
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Here's a TLANP (Too long and no punctuation) for all of you
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Here's a TLANP (Too long and no punctuation) for all of you
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That right there = flaming so you should get something for that
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