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Background: I have had phone 11 months. I am very familiar with how the battery drain is while it is stock (WiFi ON all the time). battery lasted ~16h which is plenty for me.
Rooted phone, Battery Life on AR14 and IceColdSandwich (and others) was around 20h with WiFi on all the time and light use.
Recent Kernels (anything IceColdSandwich 3.0.0+ or AR 23+ (haven't tested between 14 and 23) cause a base of around 50mA of drain even when phone is locked. Battery life is ~8-10hours WITH NO USE. I have tried these ROMs without installing ANYTHING on them with the same results.
Current Widget does not identify an offending program from what I can tell.
WiFi off, the phone lasted 2d9hr of pretty light use.
I first started looking into WiFi when I forgot to turn off airdroid and unplugged the phone for 3 hours. I found AirDroid still running but could not connect to it via laptop or desktop until I tinkered with the phone a bit more and the WiFi connection cycled.
However during this time, the charge lost on the battery was a reasonable rate, and after the WiFi connection cycled it dropped like the usual rock.
What I've tried:
WiFix
WiFi polling interval increase
Cleaning/checking battery cover contacts
Changing battery covers
Battery Calibration (which is a myth from other reading I've done)
A couple of different programs like Juice Defender.
On the list to do:
Try a different Kernel
Root my friend's phone and trade him hardware (he says he never uses WiFi, so it won't be an issue for him)
/wrists
Thanks for all the suggestions and help so far. I understand that the problem is pretty obscure and seems rare.

on icecoldsandwich ive seen quite a few people show an improved battery draining using lordmods newer bfs kernel. maybe give that a try and report back?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450962
kernel: http://goo.gl/ZqBZl
btw, very good informative question. its heart warming usually we get 'my battery sucks yo, fix it!' haha

Here is some irony.
Exitz ICS AR25 has been on the phone for a couple of days and has lost essentially 10% per hour when not on the charger (been off work in my house) After the 4th day, I installed AirDroid and AngelCamera. I took it off the charger last night...
92% 6 hours later AND the phone has been awake(?) all night...
Seems I left AirDroid 'running' but couldn't connect to the phone through AirDroid until after the WiFi cycled...
I will see how the drain is today. I'll out of the house all day tomorrow (half a day in Denver), toggle off the wifi for a day at home, and then try your suggestion Darunion.
Here are a few screen shots (first two are old), and honestly, I don't know how much I trust the battery stats.
IceColdSandwich 2.0.0 pretty much shows that battery life I have been used to for a long time including before rooting. Not AMAZING, but not fail. (WTF Proximity Recaibrator 29% of Drain on a 16 hour day?) Also note this is about the same rate of drain I experienced with Existz AR14 last week. Light use and ~16-19 hours of battery life. Not amazing, but I can live with it.
IceColdSandwich 3.0.0 pretty much shows the battery life I have been getting with any ICS roms since.. well 3.0.0 was released. Oh and the voice call that is 37% of drain lasted less than 10 minutes.
Existz AR25 (someofthedrain.png) the steep drop was a 20 minute phone call...
And Finally Airdroidwtf.png is the same install three nights later (this morning) If I could get battery drain like THIS on a regular basis...
Anyway, I'll keep trying to isolate this down to the specific 'area' of the phone that is causing it....
Edit: and as for Darunion commenting about the information I've included... I'm a patient person, I don't want to be a drain on the community, and I have no issue trying to solve a ROM, APP, Radio, RIL, Or watever issue. I'm only posting because the issue isn't unique to a ROM but is unique to a time frame AND the issue is not solveable via Google or XDA search

Right now it is looking like the 'extra' drain on newer ROMs is directly related to the wireless being on*.
Right now the phone is at 1day 19 hours with 14% left and the wireless was only on for the first couple of hours this charge cycle.
I never thought there would be such a considerable difference between battery usage on any ROMs.
I'm going to continue looking around and trying to solve things, and I haven't quite made it to trying the Kernel, Darunion. It is on the list after I toggle WIFI on and off throughout a day.
*The rest of this post is just back-story I have ran the phone on stock for 11 months before rooting it and during that time, I got used to leaving the WIFI running all the time simply because the battery always lasted through my longer days and my-typical light-use. I'm near WIFI that my phone connects to about 80% of the time.
So after rooting, I had a little increase in battery life and I never changed this habbit, or more to the point, I was leaving WIFI on as to make it one less variable in drain while testing various ROMs and different build dates.

Wulamoc said:
Right now it is looking like the 'extra' drain on newer ROMs is directly related to the wireless being on*.
Right now the phone is at 1day 19 hours with 14% left and the wireless was only on for the first couple of hours this charge cycle.
I never thought there would be such a considerable difference between battery usage on any ROMs.
I'm going to continue looking around and trying to solve things, and I haven't quite made it to trying the Kernel, Darunion. It is on the list after I toggle WIFI on and off throughout a day.
*The rest of this post is just back-story I have ran the phone on stock for 11 months before rooting it and during that time, I got used to leaving the WIFI running all the time simply because the battery always lasted through my longer days and my-typical light-use. I'm near WIFI that my phone connects to about 80% of the time.
So after rooting, I had a little increase in battery life and I never changed this habbit, or more to the point, I was leaving WIFI on as to make it one less variable in drain while testing various ROMs and different build dates.
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I was on battery for around 13 hours yesterday with wifi on for at least 8 hours of that and plugged my phone in with 51% battery remaining.

ST3ALTHPSYCH0 said:
I was on battery for around 13 hours yesterday with wifi on for at least 8 hours of that and plugged my phone in with 51% battery remaining.
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Yeah, I know this isn't a typical issue for most everyone, and am not implying so.
Likely it will end up being something very specific to the two WIFI networks I am at for 80% of the time OR something else that is very specific to my circumstances.

Wulamoc said:
Yeah, I know this isn't a typical issue for most everyone, and am not implying so.
Likely it will end up being something very specific to the two WIFI networks I am at for 80% of the time OR something else that is very specific to my circumstances.
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Have you, by chance, removed and reinstalled your back covers? I know it's unlikely, but since they contain the antennae, maybe they've come a little loos, resulting in higher imepedence connections.

ST3ALTHPSYCH0 said:
Have you, by chance, removed and reinstalled your back covers? I know it's unlikely, but since they contain the antennae, maybe they've come a little loos, resulting in higher imepedence connections.
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I have not specifically toyed with the covers as part of trouble shooting. I will be sure that I look at them after my battery finishes charging on WIFI.
It does seem to be more a software difference, (I've casually be at this for the better part of 2 months) as I have seen expected performance when flashing back to a ROM I've used.
Thanks, I like being able to limit variables and this will be one I check before charging the phone again.
(What I'd really love to do is convince my brother or one of two friends who have the Inspire 4g to let me root their phones so I can trade them phones for a week and really isolate out hardware issues

fyi if you are still running icecoldsandwich. 6.2 just was released. Maybe give that a try?

Darunion said:
fyi if you are still running icecoldsandwich. 6.2 just was released. Maybe give that a try?
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Right now, I'd like to figure out WHY my WiFi is so bad on battery drain with later AOKP releases.
I'll try to rule out hardware issues (I'll look into antenna and MAYBE convince a friend to let me root their phone and trade them for a week... if not then covers at least.)
But likely this is something about newer releases and how my WIFI is setup. I don't live in a high-density area, so it's not because of too much wifi trafficz (I can barely see a 2nd wifi with any device and it's on the opposite end of the frequency choices.... by my settings)
Anyway, I am a very patient person, so I'll continue working on this slowly so that I can be thorough and find the real cause of the problem.
What I would wish is for someone to point me in the direction as to how WiFi MIGHT drain the battery so hard for later releases but not earlier. I'll be reading up more on logcat and how to read it in regards to wifi... but searching and reading is hard because 'wireless' and what not are very vague terms
Now at 1% (still) and 2d9h... is MORE than double my record on the first roms I tried after rooting OR my stock rom. and MORE than quadruple my record on any of the newer roms

I've swapped battery covers with a friend this past weekend, and the WiFi being on still drains the phone considerably (~8%/hr) when turned on. So if it's a hardware issue, it's not in the battery cover.

Wifi and blue tooth are very hard on the battery regardless. But 8% an hour seems pretty steep tho.
I would start by getting the current widget in Google market and put in on your home screen to monitor your Mili-volt ussage. If its running high like the 200+ constantly you have a lot of drain going on. When in sleep mode it should drop down to 0mv up to 8mv. If it stays high in the sleep mode you have apps waking your phone from sleeping. Which causes tremendous drain.
Next I'd try removing apps that have wifi permissions. To see if that drops your mv ussage.
Drop your notifications to less frequent times on your email and Facebook.
Remove any task managers or juice defender. They run constantly.
Google + is a massive battery drainer. Remove or limit notifications and sync as much as possible.
Also running wifi fix apk could also help. If you are knowledgeable enough you could also edit the build.prop to set the wife scan at a less frequent rate as well.
Last but not least get a toggle button widget for wifi and turn it off when not using.
I'd you follow these steps this will drasticly decrease your battery drain.
Sent from Soundwave aboard Nemesis.

dj sampson said:
Wifi and blue tooth are very hard on the battery regardless. But 8% an hour seems pretty steep tho.
I would start by getting the current widget in Google market and put in on your home screen to monitor your Mili-volt ussage. If its running high like the 200+ constantly you have a lot of drain going on. When in sleep mode it should drop down to 0mv up to 8mv. If it stays high in the sleep mode you have apps waking your phone from sleeping. Which causes tremendous drain.
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Thanks for taking the time for this response!
I started by running current widget for about a week and with a 3 different roms AR23(?), IceColdSandwich 2.0.0, IceColdSandwich 3.0.0.
I was stock for 11 months, and ICS2.0.0 was a little better than battery drain than stock. AR23 and ICS3.0.0 were terrible and pretty much ran a constant 50ma drain asleep or awake as a baseline.
I'd really like to figure out what the difference is with the older AOKP and the newer AOKP, but that may never happen.
Next I'd try removing apps that have wifi permissions. To see if that drops your mv ussage.
Drop your notifications to less frequent times on your email and Facebook.
Remove any task managers or juice defender. They run constantly.
Google + is a massive battery drainer. Remove or limit notifications and sync as much as possible.
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I've been testing with stock roms since a couple weeks before I posted this thread. This is because current widget didn't really show any specific program causing the issue, so I wanted to make sure that I didn't have some issue from my installed programs.
The most I've installed (out of necessity is AirDroid and AngelCamera) in the past few weeks. Both were installed when I ran without wifi on one charge for 2d9hrs.
(I don't have a google+ account, I don't have juice defender or any task managers aside from the stock rom)
Also running wifi fix apk could also help. If you are knowledgeable enough you could also edit the build.prop to set the wife scan at a less frequent rate as well.
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I'll do this and see if that helps things. Thank you
Last but not least get a toggle button widget for wifi and turn it off when not using.
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This is likely going to have to be my solution. Just run cell data all the time unless I am doing something specific like downloading files or uploading pictures.
OR
Maybe I can convince my friend to let me trade him phones (root his and nand backup and then restore all his stuff to my phone) and see if it is about the same drain. His phone was bought a couple months after mine AND from a different vendor, so it isn't going to be out of the same manufacturer's lot.
I'd you follow these steps this will drasticly decrease your battery drain.
Sent from Soundwave aboard Nemesis.
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Thanks again. I'll definitely try the wifix along with the rest of your suggestions that apply

I'm in the same boat you are. I'm running ics aospX ar-26 and I can barely get mine to last from 8 til 4. Wifi is pretty prevelent around here and I leave it on most of time. I guess I could try turning it off til I need it. Anyway I'll be following this thread.
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You also might consider reading the threads on calibrating battery after flashing roms. I made the mistake of flashing a rom @ 40% battery. It jacked my stats all up. The new rom thought 40% battery was actually 100%. It had my stats all screwed up too. Except mine was Bluetooth. Showed running at 60% of battery ussage. So don't trust that system tool. Because the display is almost alway gonna be the biggest drain on the battery. An app called "spare parts" is a little more accurate.
I ran the gambit on this one finnally got my battery back to normal for me anyway. I've never seen a full days use with out charging. Get about 14 hours Max now. But the calibration steps is the way to go.
Sent from Soundwave aboard Nemesis.

dj sampson said:
You also might consider reading the threads on calibrating battery after flashing roms. I made the mistake of flashing a rom @ 40% battery. It jacked my stats all up. The new rom thought 40% battery was actually 100%. It had my stats all screwed up too. Except mine was Bluetooth. Showed running at 60% of battery ussage. So don't trust that system tool. Because the display is almost alway gonna be the biggest drain on the battery. An app called "spare parts" is a little more accurate.
I ran the gambit on this one finnally got my battery back to normal for me anyway. I've never seen a full days use with out charging. Get about 14 hours Max now. But the calibration steps is the way to go.
Sent from Soundwave aboard Nemesis.
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I actually have read quite a bit about battery calibration... and before I flashed a new ROM, I've made sure that current widget has been tracking 0ma for a while. (Only reliable way to be sure you have a full battery from what I can tell)
The batterystats.bin file and calibration has been ... contended in a number of places, mostly stating that when taken off the charger 'full' the battery stats file is overwritten... which makes calibration a non-issue (assuming that you occasionally charge your phone for a while after it hits 100% from time to time)
The problem is that the WiFi mA draw is HUGE compared to what it should be (in theory from reading other people's logs), and it's not because of the battery cover. AND It's not as bad in older AOKP ROMs than it is in newer ones. SO it could be a hardware issue exacerbated by a change in how WiFi is handled, but the hardware issue was never noticed because the battery life Stock was sufficient for my needs.
I've been busy working so I haven't been able to continue troubleshooting the phone (damn my patience), but Mondayish, I'll likely have traded my phone with a friend and root it and flash a new rom and see how the drain is with completely different hardware from a different vendor from a different lot of phones.

I had a similar issue with wifi. I changed the build.props wifi supliment scan from every 15 seconds to 180 and used the wifi fix manager apk. That seemed to help. Coupled with a proper battery calibration and I'm back to my display being the major battery draw.
So don't know if that helps but it seemed to work out my bugs.
Sent from Soundwave aboard Nemesis.

This I can do right now.. and given I'm on the same, unmodified AR24 release, I can observe it for the weekend before I annoy my friend about his phone.
Seems the WiFi scan interval was already set to 100... moved it to 180 anyway.

I used to have this issue. I could literally see my battery draining while I was using it. I keep wifi on most of the time. I recently purchased an anker battery online. It is AMAZING! My old battery wouldn't last more than 6 hours or so. Right now I'm at about 14 hours on this charge, and I'm at 47 percent. Try swapping his battery for yours for a day or two. Another thing to try is different radios if you're losing power to cell standby.
Zombies ate my Inspire

DynamiteRave said:
I used to have this issue. I could literally see my battery draining while I was using it. I keep wifi on most of the time. I recently purchased an anker battery online. It is AMAZING! My old battery wouldn't last more than 6 hours or so. Right now I'm at about 14 hours on this charge, and I'm at 47 percent. Try swapping his battery for yours for a day or two. Another thing to try is different radios if you're losing power to cell standby.
Zombies ate my Inspire
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The phone ran for 2days 9hours with WiFi off and lasts for 8-10 hours with WiFi on. I am pretty sure that it's not a Radio/RIL or a Battery capacity issue. ;(

[Q] How to increase battery life?

hey im a noob here so im sorry if this has been asked before but right now i upgraded my phone to ics and the battery life is horrible and im too cheap to get a battery extender so is there anything i can do to improve it or am i just going to have to deal with it?

Get your phone to 100% battery and then just play whatever you like until it completely dies. Then, plug it in to charge and dont touch it until it gets back up to 100%. That is supposed to increase the battery lasting time by 20%. It only works once...so dont do it 5 times hoping for results. This is supposed to be done when you first get the phone, but if its never been you've never done it, its worth the shot.
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rygtuu said:
hey im a noob here so im sorry if this has been asked before but right now i upgraded my phone to ics and the battery life is horrible and im too cheap to get a battery extender so is there anything i can do to improve it or am i just going to have to deal with it?
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Let the ROM 'soak' in. It'll get better. You are probably busy messing with it figuring out all the features which is normal and makes the battery seem terrible. But overall it is pretty good.
And the post above is an old wives tale these days. It's funny to read people still recommending it.

lumin30 said:
Let the ROM 'soak' in. It'll get better. You are probably busy messing with it figuring out all the features which is normal and makes the battery seem terrible. But overall it is pretty good.
And the post above is an old wives tale these days. It's funny to read people still recommending it.
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Kinda, when you first flash with a factory reset, you don't have a battery stats file. This is another good reason to flash when your battery is 100% charged. When Senior Members here say "soak in", they are saying that the first boot all of the system apk (application packages) are cached to /cache. Doing too much while these apps are being cached screws up the statistics of the battery stats. If I really want good battery life, I totally wipe, and let the phone sit for 10-15 minutes. I leave usb plugged in till it's 100%, then pull the usb and use the phone until it totally dies.
By this time, the day is over and it needs to be charged anyways. I plug it into the charger before bed and let it charge up all the way with nothing running (no wifi, no bt, no background apps running).
After that charge, battery life seems soo much better. ymmv. it would be good to know if that works for you too.
Otherwise, everyone uses their phone differently, and some people install stupid apps that have intensive background services running that eat batteries, then complain about the rom sucking instead of introspecting about how they use their phone.

bhundven said:
Kinda, when you first flash with a factory reset, you don't have a battery stats file. This is another good reason to flash when your battery is 100% charged. When Senior Members here say "soak in", they are saying that the first boot all of the system apk (application packages) are cached to /cache. Doing too much while these apps are being cached screws up the statistics of the battery stats.
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Just to clarify - battery stats file have nothing to do with battery performance and the battery stat file "is reset every time you unplug from power with a relatively full charge (thus why the battery usage UI data resets at that point)." Google Engineer Dianne Hackborn

ahh ok thanks guys ill do what you guys said and see if it helps

you can also install one of the battery saver apps on the market, like juice defender or similar. They will typically help and some can control how often background services are allowed to collect data.

mike-y said:
you can also install one of the battery saver apps on the market, like juice defender or similar. They will typically help and some can control how often background services are allowed to collect data.
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These arent as helpful as they use to be. I have seen and challenged people to run with and without and the added battery life is either very minimal or actually worse with these apps.
Battery saver apps where created when android was very young and had bad management of the battery power. The way it works now it should lower the power to the radios low enough to save battery but not completely shut off the radios. Shutting them off will actually harm battery life because it takes so much more power to turn them on and off repeatedly then to let them idle.

no i think it was more designed for froyo and gb because if you try those battery savers in froyo or gb you can see it works and battery last long but if you test it in ics or jb (i have test juice defender with jb in the sgs3) and what i can see its that sometimes it lags (not always just when you like two or three apps open which for me in the sgs3 was weird) and data sometimes hangs i mean it doesn't load pages
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Download Gemini from the play store and manage the autorun for apps. That's what I do and it saves quite a bit of battery
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solrac1212 said:
no i think it was more designed for froyo and gb because if you try those battery savers in froyo or gb you can see it works and battery last long but if you test it in ics or jb (i have test juice defender with jb in the sgs3) and what i can see its that sometimes it lags (not always just when you like two or three apps open which for me in the sgs3 was weird) and data sometimes hangs i mean it doesn't load pages
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Ill agree with you on froyo but gingerbread towards the end was much better.
The biggest thing is people dont realize how much power is used to start and stop things. Letting them idle will use battery but not nearly as much if you start and stop many times a day. Now at night if you want to turn off those things then yeah go for it. But if you are a frequent phone checker then starting and stopping them everytime will chew through the battery.
A good example is this, its summertime go outside and look at your electric meter when the ac first turns on. It will spin reeal fast for a minute or so while the system gets everything going then it will slow down. This same thing applies to your phone and its radios. Each time you shut it off it has to go through a process so you dont get corrupted data. And when you turn it on it has to use a lot of battery to make sure things dont get messed up and get to the proper operating form.
So any app that shuts off the radios manually and such will end up costing you battery if you are a power user.

If you can follow the steps exactly as i wrote them, then install the team FAH-Q kernel found in the dev section...
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thomas.raines said:
If you can follow the steps exactly as i wrote them, then install the team FAH-Q kernel found in the dev section...
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I put FAH-Q kernal on AOKP and it seemed to help a bit. I was using systempanel and it said facebook was sucking cpu at night while the phone was resting... so i took off facebook for the moment to see if any other apps/processes could be causing a drain.
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I spend 15-20 min in the morning going through stuff on my phone. Then I will listen to music in the car on my way to work 35 min. My phone will be at 80% by the time i walk in to work. I check things during the work day once and a while and by 2pm I will be around 40%. leaving work I will have 35-30% .... ok i'll just quit now and say running 12hrs i will have about 15% left. I think I am an average phone user. not sure how much everyone else uses theirs.

justiz33 said:
I put FAH-Q kernal on AOKP and it seemed to help a bit. I was using systempanel and it said facebook was sucking cpu at night while the phone was resting... so i took off facebook for the moment to see if any other apps/processes could be causing a drain.
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I spend 15-20 min in the morning going through stuff on my phone. Then I will listen to music in the car on my way to work 35 min. My phone will be at 80% by the time i walk in to work. I check things during the work day once and a while and by 2pm I will be around 40%. leaving work I will have 35-30% .... ok i'll just quit now and say running 12hrs i will have about 15% left. I think I am an average phone user. not sure how much everyone else uses theirs.
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Music soaks up a lot of battery as well as display, data, and sync. You can try turning off sync and data when you don't need them. But it sounds like you are doing better. I am still concerned with what else you have running in the background though... however, 12-16 hours isn't bad at all...
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bhundven said:
.... If I really want good battery life, I totally wipe, and let the phone sit for 10-15 minutes. I leave usb plugged in till it's 100%, then pull the usb and use the phone until it totally dies.
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What do you mean by totally wipe? do you mean go into recovery to wipe data, cache, and davlik cache? then restore after the battery is fully charged?

HKSpeed said:
What do you mean by totally wipe? do you mean go into recovery to wipe data, cache, and davlik cache? then restore after the battery is fully charged?
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Yes, as well as /system/ and at least .android_secure on your microSD
I would recommend against fully discharging your battery as a matter of course. While this might have been useful in the days of NiCads, deep discharges and heat are the Kryptonite of LiIon batteries.

annoying battery life issue

Hi folks,
since some days my battery drives me crazy...
Last week i flashed CM10 by nk111. Nice ROM, but my battery lasted only for some hours with normal usage. So I went back to MIUI...problem stayed.
Yesterday I flashed Jellytime and replaced the battery. The problem stayed as well. At 6 pm battery was full, I restored my apps with Titanium, used it a bit and when I was going to bed at 10 p.m. battery was 81%. Getting up at 5:30 this morning --> battery was 41%.
After the battery was full yesterday night I used display for maybe 10 minutes, why there are 36% battery usage by th display?
WTF happened to my system by flashing CM10 by nk111???
Any help is appreciated!
PS:
Baseband-Version: 20.72.30.0833U_3831.17.00.310
Kernel-Version: 3.0.50-g6ea80e4

First, do you have Google now on. It really drains the battery. If that doesn't help install better battery stats and let it go through a couple of cycles, it will help you pinpoint if any apps or wakelocks are draining your battery.
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I don't use Google Now. I use the same apps withe the same intensity than in better battery times...
Could you please give me a recommendation for a battery stats tool?
Thanks!

flsch said:
I don't use Google Now. I use the same apps withe the same intensity than in better battery times...
Could you please give me a recommendation for a battery stats tool?
Thanks!
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Use the search, you'll find it in both xda and playstore it's called better battery stats
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U have an app or something that is running when screen is off.
Find the app and del it.
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app called carat could also help you find the battery sucking thing. It's a bit more simple than battery stats, you'll like it if you're not an expert.
it doesn't need to be a new app that is sucking power, it could be the poorly made update of some app that you're using for a long time.

I installed both apps.
But in both I can't find any kind of statistics about consumed power by apps or something similar, am I that stupid?

flsch said:
I installed both apps.
But in both I can't find any kind of statistics about consumed power by apps or something similar, am I that stupid?
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Bbs needs to run for at least a full battery cycle to give you a clear picture, if recommend running it for at least a day
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I get max 24 hours battery life , sometimes 12 hours , so it's not something to worry. If you speak 2-3 hours and WiFi on another 2-3 hours that is the battery în my case 12 hours max.
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spavian said:
I get max 24 hours battery life , sometimes 12 hours , so it's not something to worry. If you speak 2-3 hours and WiFi on another 2-3 hours that is the battery în my case 12 hours max.
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IT IS something to worry, cause battery behaviour changed dramatically while I didn't change my usage of the phone.
40% battery loss over night should be a clear indication of abnormal behaviour.
@jugg1es: thanks for the advice!

flsch said:
I installed both apps.
But in both I can't find any kind of statistics about consumed power by apps or something similar, am I that stupid?
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you must run carot a day or two, than it will display some apps on the first page and the approximate battery life you get if you kill them. read the manual also..

Yesterday in the evening I realized a 96% entry in the Partial Wavelocks section - AndroidMediaScanner. I freezed it (I know where my pictures and music is located...), did a full load on the battery and for 4 hours the battery remained at 100%. I really thought the problem is solved...but in the morning...31%
But - the 'Media' entry in the android accu stats is gone, I think this is a partial success.
In the BBS app, there is no remarkable value - the biggest is 3,8%.
When I watch the graphs - WiFi and Awake is nearly completetly blue over the whole night (unfortunately, I can't take screenshots right now for any reason).
I'm a bit helpless right now, will charge the phone now and keep an eye on BBS the next hours/days.

androidmediascanner shouldn't be the bad guy, it's a system app that we all have. maybe your battery is the problem...

toxic-hero said:
androidmediascanner shouldn't be the bad guy, it's a system app that we all have. maybe your battery is the problem...
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I inserted a new battery last week without any change. Don't think both batteries are broken.

The common way to solve this is to do a fresh install. Leave it for a day without any apps yo see if it is ROM related. See if the battery life improve. Install one app per day and monitor your phone awake period with screen on, it should be almost same.
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Yesterday night I made a full wipe, installed Jellytime and Gapps and went to sleep...
In the morning --> 67%.
Very odd, normally this would probably indicating a defect battery, but it is new!
Maybe a hardware defect?

Maybe RRU Problem?
Hi,
I have a similar problem here. I was using the desire s for a long timne with stock rom (2.x android), a full battery was enough for ~2 days. Then I rooted the device and installed CM10 (NK111 alpha build).
2 things changed:
The battery is empty after 24h or less.
The wireless network is worse than before. This is my subjective impression but there are places at home or in the office where wifi worked before and stopped working.
I'm starting excessive tests (disabling everything, removing apps, running carat) during xmas holidays to find the reason.
My guess what it might be: to root the device I did a downgrade, including a radio downgrade. Now I run baseband 20.23.30.0802U_38.02.01.11 which is known as "Saga Test RUU" and has the lowest version number of the RRUs listed in the forum. I did not found anything about this in the forum or with google but maybe this is the reason.
My average battery stats with normal use (whole day, used the phone a few minutes):
~30% Display
~25% Wifi
~17% Mobile Standby
~5% Android Os
For comparison, my Motorola Defy has in a similar scenario ~5% Wifi and ~3% Mobile Standby

OP6 Always Awake, Poor Battery Life

Hey guys,
I bought OP6 8/128 version and first, the battery life was ok, I was getting 4-5 hours of sot. Now, I see that battery is discharging in constant rate and something is keeping my phone awake all the time. Firstly I thought it was Instagram when it helped when I force stopped it. Now I'm lost 20 percent overnight and battery stats show, that all the time my device was awake. Cannot see anything suspicious through gsam or better battery stats as I believe the put it under android system. Help anyone?

Did you already do a reboot?

gabris said:
Hey guys,
I bought OP6 8/128 version and first, the battery life was ok, I was getting 4-5 hours of sot. Now, I see that battery is discharging in constant rate and something is keeping my phone awake all the time. Firstly I thought it was Instagram when it helped when I force stopped it. Now I'm lost 20 percent overnight and battery stats show, that all the time my device was awake. Cannot see anything suspicious through gsam or better battery stats as I believe the put it under android system. Help anyone?
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From personal experience, i found that updating OTA was the culprit. To get around this, download the full update from Oneplus and update that way.
Ever since i started doing this, I have not had the battery drain issues i used to have. Also, wipe cache before booting phone after update.

hallo dare said:
From personal experience, i found that updating OTA was the culprit. To get around this, download the full update from Oneplus and update that way.
Ever since i started doing this, I have not had the battery drain issues i used to have. Also, wipe cache before booting phone after update.
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So I should try to do fresh install from OnePlus site? Awake time drops when I clear recent apps, so I believe this is either Instagram or Facebook doing this. Really weird. Even without awake time shown in graph, I got 35% drain in 1h sot and 11h standby, this shouldn't be normal, right?
It's crazy, because I used to have a good battery life

gabris said:
So I should try to do fresh install from OnePlus site? Awake time drops when I clear recent apps, so I believe this is either Instagram or Facebook doing this. Really weird. Even without awake time shown in graph, I got 35% drain in 1h sot and 11h standby, this shouldn't be normal, right?
It's crazy, because I used to have a good battery life
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for testing, can you uninstall Instagram and Facebook for 1 day and see how your battery life changes.

I can tell you right now Instagram has a prefetch service which causes close to 1-2 hours of wakelock per day for me. I have root so I can disable it but there's no other way from the app itself.

spartan268 said:
I can tell you right now Instagram has a prefetch service which causes close to 1-2 hours of wakelock per day for me. I have root so I can disable it but there's no other way from the app itself.
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You can just set the app to not use any background data from within Android. I have it on all that's not important for me.
Loose about 0.3% per hour without any apps or mods on beta 2.

whizeguy said:
You can just set the app to not use any background data from within Android. I have it on all that's not important for me.
Loose about 0.3% per hour without any apps or mods on beta 2.
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So, the story continues... After following your advice and restricting background data for Instagram the wake up time fixed itself, however battery is still draining. Screenshots attached (facebook and time sensors used??)
I will test every available option and if they won't work, I would consider moving to beta oxygen os. Now I'm on 5.1.11
I am ready to trace this to it's roots for people who will potentially encounter this problem in the future.

gabris said:
So, the story continues... After following your advice and restricting background data for Instagram the wake up time fixed itself, however battery is still draining. Screenshots attached (facebook and time sensors used??)
I will test every available option and if they won't work, I would consider moving to beta oxygen os. Now I'm on 5.1.11
I am ready to trace this to it's roots for people who will potentially encounter this problem in the future.
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It could be your spotty connection. Your awake time is fairly high when the mobile network connection goes south. Can you try using something like 3G instead and see if the awake time goes down? As well as the battery drain?
Naturally 3G uses less battery but if you see a drastic difference then it could be the tower connection you have. When the signal gets worse the modem tries harder and effectively uses more battery trying to stay connected.

Have a look if Facebook is allowed to use unlimited background data, I believe there is a setting for it on 5.1.11 aswell (I'm on beta,its a beast.)

There are many reasons not to install Facebook apps on your phone, and this is one of them.

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Have a look if Facebook is allowed to use unlimited background data, I believe there is a setting for it on 5.1.11 aswell (I'm on beta,its a beast.)
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Background data off both for Facebook and Instagram fixed (at least it seems) the overnight drain issue even with airplane mode on. Last time I lost 20-30%, tonight less than 4-5%
Just when I thought I found what was causing the drain, take a look at this: 20min sot and 20% down in 4.5h
Screens attached, still searching for the issue. Android battery stats show no awake time, but something is definitely draining (app usage insanely high on 80%)

gabris said:
Background data off both for Facebook and Instagram fixed (at least it seems) the overnight drain issue even with airplane mode on. Last time I lost 20-30%, tonight less than 4-5%
Just when I thought I found what was causing the drain, take a look at this: 20min sot and 20% down in 4.5h
Screens attached, still searching for the issue. Android battery stats show no awake time, but something is definitely draining (app usage insanely high on 80%)
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So strange.. I feel we still have 3 options here.. 2 old and one new.
Flash 5.1.11 without wiping anything (you won't loose data so it's just an upgrade)
Flash beta 2 dirty as an upgrade, (you might get device corruptednat boot, press power 2 times and forget about the message) you won't loose any data or apps this way either.
Last option is the least fun, clean install of rom :/. If you ask me, I'd go for beta 2 option, if you wanna run something you know is stable go with 5.1.11.
I didn't run into any issues with beta 2 but some are (I believe user error here..)
Changed my mind.... I have 2 more posible fixes.. (I think)
Hmmm, one more thing I just came to think of is try using SD Maid, now this is just a guess that it will do anything at all..
The other thing is flashing a kernel, something could have happened there after an upgrade or something (just a guess.)
I'm running flash kernel now, it's really good

whizeguy said:
So strange.. I feel we still have 3 options here.. 2 old and one new.
Flash 5.1.11 without wiping anything (you won't loose data so it's just an upgrade)
Flash beta 2 dirty as an upgrade, (you might get device corruptednat boot, press power 2 times and forget about the message) you won't loose any data or apps this way either.
Last option is the least fun, clean install of rom :/. If you ask me, I'd go for beta 2 option, if you wanna run something you know is stable go with 5.1.11.
I didn't run into any issues with beta 2 but some are (I believe user error here..)
Changed my mind.... I have 2 more posible fixes.. (I think)
Hmmm, one more thing I just came to think of is try using SD Maid, now this is just a guess that it will do anything at all..
The other thing is flashing a kernel, something could have happened there after an upgrade or something (just a guess.)
I'm running flash kernel now, it's really good
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Thanks for your thoughts, thinking of going to beta 2 since I am on 5.1.11 right now. As for flashing kernel, I've been there with custom roms and kernels with several other phones and in the end most of them (except galaxy s5) were working better on stock ones after a while... However, doesn't rooting void the warranty on OP6?

gabris said:
Thanks for your thoughts, thinking of going to beta 2 since I am on 5.1.11 right now. As for flashing kernel, I've been there with custom roms and kernels with several other phones and in the end most of them (except galaxy s5) were working better on stock ones after a while... However, doesn't rooting void the warranty on OP6?
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Beta 2 is really good
48 hours and I'm at 18% with soon 9hrs of screen (usage and SS in battery thread)
As of warranty, no, you will still have full. However this shouldn't have to be done as a "fix" , i was just curious if stock kernel somehow got messed up :s

gabris said:
Thanks for your thoughts, thinking of going to beta 2 since I am on 5.1.11 right now. As for flashing kernel, I've been there with custom roms and kernels with several other phones and in the end most of them (except galaxy s5) were working better on stock ones after a while... However, doesn't rooting void the warranty on OP6?
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I would suggest doing a factory reset or uninstall your apps one at a time. Considering it's saying kernel wakelock (could be false positive) I would start go straight to factory reset. If going to Android Pie beta 2 is overall stable and forces a reset anyways, then go ahead and do that instead.

Im just getting 5-6hours SOT on my new op6, is this the normal battery life? Was planning on flashing custom kernels? Any suggestions?

whizeguy said:
Beta 2 is really good
48 hours and I'm at 18% with soon 9hrs of screen (usage and SS in battery thread)
As of warranty, no, you will still have full. However this shouldn't have to be done as a "fix" , i was just curious if stock kernel somehow got messed up :s
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So, I can close this case as SOLVED.
Today, phone was mainly on 4g, doing photos, videos, calls, 4 hours of spotify via bluetooth. 3h50min SOT, 16h standby and still 27% left. Dirty install of Beta 2 fixed it! Thanks for your help!

gabris said:
So, I can close this case as SOLVED.
Today, phone was mainly on 4g, doing photos, videos, calls, 4 hours of spotify via bluetooth. 3h50min SOT, 16h standby and still 27% left. Dirty install of Beta 2 fixed it! Thanks for your help!
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Really nice to hear mate!

whizeguy said:
Beta 2 is really good
48 hours and I'm at 18% with soon 9hrs of screen (usage and SS in battery thread)
As of warranty, no, you will still have full. However this shouldn't have to be done as a "fix" , i was just curious if stock kernel somehow got messed up :s
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Where can I download beta 2?
I am on 5.1.11

Possible Fix For Rapid Idle Battery Drain

Been having really bad drain issues on standby so decided to experiment. I've possible cured my phone from the drain issue. It involves an 18 watt charger and the usb cable (obviously). First plug your phone and charge until it says full in battery app. Second switch off phone leaving it on charger, wait another 5 mins just to make sure the phone reads the battery as full.
Third, now press vol up and vol down plus power button together keeping hold of them until the phone reboots at least 4 times, wait for to shortest reboots and let go, power up and wait for battery to say full and then wipe the device health services app completely including the ambient light data.
Reboot again if you want to while your still plugged into charger and wait minimum 12 hours like a new battery should be charged
Hopefully you cured the idle drain, if not,try install the device health services beta app on apk mirror and wipe the app again, hopefully that should be fixed, if not then your issue is completely different to mine.
Also make sure that you don't have any sound connected apps that are jamming the on the sound in background. If you did it right you should notice a clean slate in the battery app with the amount of days the phone was built or preset.
Mine said last full charge 55 days ago.
Cannot be done without charger and cable.
Or you can just reset device health services without doing the button press, i just wanted to start a fresh.

Just an update, my phone is 38 hours in with 45% battery.Just idle with minimum use, a few phone calls and updating of apps, half hour screen on all activity. Now i would say this is miraculous considering the phone was draining 1% every few mins. Even a factory reset and ota didnt fix it. PLease be aware that im not providing a miraculous cure for everyones battery drain, and not responsible if it doesnt work for you, i think a few ppl will gain from it aswell as few ppl wont gain from it. LET me know your experience after trying.
From what i can gather device health services wasnt working as it should and was killing my battery.

This looks like witchcraft. What is rationale behind your spells?
BTW, if you reboot the phone 12 times, you might get 3x the battery life. Even better, then charge it for 48 hours to get 6x battery life. I think we're on to something, but I am not sure what it is..?
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MArtyChubbs said:
This looks like witchcraft. What is rationale behind your spells?
BTW, if you reboot the phone 12 times, you might get 3x the battery life. Even better, then charge it for 48 hours to get 6x battery life. I think we're on to something, but I am not sure what it is..?
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your funny, look it up. Theres a bug in device health services, causes the phone not to sleep properly, the other part of holding the buttons returns the phone back to factory preset calibration, hence hardware. You will see when holding the power buttons normally it takes 10 seconds to reboot, still holding the buttons it will cycle faster on the next reboot, i suggested 4 times to make sure its done. If try it without the charger and cable, it does nothing, wont even reboot.
The 12/24 hours i mentioned is to charge like you would a brandnew phone.
No one has to do it if they dont want to, im just sharing.
If i was conning ppl xda dev would of removed it or flagged it.
Im not pushing for extra batterylife, normal operation is what i was looking at.

Ive updated the device health services from apk mirror, now battery drain is back. That just proves my theory of the app bugged up. Have to reset the stats again and hope it fixes it, again.

boe323 said:
your funny, look it up. Theres a bug in device health services, causes the phone not to sleep properly, the other part of holding the buttons returns the phone back to factory preset calibration, hence hardware. You will see when holding the power buttons normally it takes 10 seconds to reboot, still holding the buttons it will cycle faster on the next reboot, i suggested 4 times to make sure its done. If try it without the charger and cable, it does nothing, wont even reboot.
The 12/24 hours i mentioned is to charge like you would a brandnew phone.
No one has to do it if they dont want to, im just sharing.
If i was conning ppl xda dev would of removed it or flagged it.
Im not pushing for extra batterylife, normal operation is what i was looking at.
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"your funny" made my day. Thanks brother!
And I appreciate your explanation. Good read[emoji6]
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ive had no look in using the playstore device health services, battery is back to draining 2% every few minutes, the latest version on apk mirror or the beta are the only ones that work properly, battery stats wont even populate on the main battery usage tab. just says unavailable. So, if anyone as got the issue where the stats dont show on main battery usage , download the beta or the latest device health service app, install it and reset the battery stats. Hopefully the stats will show and drain as gone. Ive had best results in the beta.

This the latest version, not reset stats yet, just wanted to show what stats weren't showing untill I update the app.

This what you get when battery stats are cleared
This is an example.

what does your battery app say for screen on and idle time on full battery?

This is the dumbest thread a long time. What the actual f**** you're talking about? Uninstall that crappy Cloud app that runs for 12hrs and draining you battery. Look at your own provided screens.

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MrPepperino said:
This is the dumbest thread a long time. What the actual f**** you're talking about? Uninstall that crappy Cloud app that runs for 12hrs and draining you battery. Look at your own provided screens.
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The cloud app as got nothing to do with what i'm doing, it doesn't drain my battery. The screen shots are examples. I could as easily say your post is the dumbest post i've seen in a long time, as you don't even know what i'm on about. 1% of my battery in 12 hours is not draining the battery. Easiest thing for you to do is just ignore this thread.

This is my idle state usage after clearing stats and unsticking device health services

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This is my idle state usage after clearing stats and unsticking device health services
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Post your real stats nub, that screens tells us nothing

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Post your real stats nub, that screens tells us nothing
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Its idle state, not use the phone state. The infos there for idle(not using the phone) state. There was only one app in app usage tab, carrier settings used 3%,if you turn on wifi the carrier settings doesn't use battery at all, total usage was screen, idle, carrier settings and playservices.
You can tell when device health services is stuck, the phone is always warm, never cold. Hoping android 10 as fixed it, but i doubt it.

Do you still have this issue? According to AccuBattery my phone drains about 5% per hour.

JayYip said:
Do you still have this issue? According to AccuBattery my phone drains about 5% per hour.
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Not now, seems to have solved it. If you wish to try it, after you done the steps on android 10, open app usage tab and look on the graph to see if phones gone back to factory state, it will read something like 20 or 30 days ago last charge. Keep an eye on the population of the battery app and check if phones cold in standby.

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This what you get when battery stats are cleared
This is an example.
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Is this supposed to show before or after the 12 hours charge? Done all the steps. 4 reboots with the buttons pressed, then installed this beta on the link below and clear the data of the app, but the battery data looks normal to me.
Link:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...1-9-0-247950067-release-android-apk-download/
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Forget about it. Just show 43 days at the graphic. Will charge it for 8 hours for now and use the phone like always. Will post the results.