[Q] Are you a Real Audiophile? i need your advise & help making my nexus sound better - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

[Q] Are you a Real Audiophile? i need your advise & help making my nexus sound better
Hello
I am looking for an Audiophile who try and have the best combination for better sound (headphones, Speakers, conversation speaker etc)
i don't mind install kernel & patches. i saw many tricks but not a full guide combining the ones that really makes a different.
That's why i need your help, i came from a world (Nexus S) where Voodoo Sound combining with DSP Equalizer gave me the best result with maximum control,
Thank you all

Zivonche said:
Hello
I am looking for an Audiophile who try and have the best combination for better sound (headphones, Speakers, conversation speaker etc)
i don't mind install kernel & patches. i saw many tricks but not a full guide combining the ones that really makes a different.
That's why i need your help, i came from a world (Nexus S) where Voodoo Sound combining with DSP Equalizer gave me the best result with maximum control,
Thank you all
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I can help. I have a portable amp/DAC called the Fiio e07k that I plug into my phone via USB OTG. I use this to drive my headphones. Gets me the best quality possible as the DAC in the e07k is orders of magnitude better than the DAC in the nexus 5. This is what most audiophiles do. Which headphones do you use daily?

Check viper4android, faux sound
Also here xloud-beats-dsp manager+ xperia apps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521211
heres a ROM with audiphiles in mind http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2655722

I recommend viper4android

+1 for Viper4android, although it will never compete with DAC IMHO,. but for me, streaming from Spotify, I'm limited anyway.

If you're trying to use the N5 as a PMP for regular day-to-day commutes like I do and never wanted to use a DAC+Amp because they're bulky, here's my opinion: I'm quite satisfied with the sound coming from my N5 with any kernel that implements faux sound combined with the Dunu DN1000. I also came from a Nexus S with voodoo sound and I can testify that N5+faux satisfies my crave for details and sound cleanness with the 'phones I'm currently using. The SQ is mainly dependent on the earphones/headphones you'd use.
I have tried using v4a+faux/dsp combinations. They sound terrible and too artificial for my taste. If you're a basshead go for faux+dsp2.1(not the commonly used dsp 2.0!) so you'll have more options for controlling the bass freq by freq. I didn't really like v4a's implementation of bass enhancements because they add "boom" instead of "thump". V4a offers quite a bunch of sound tweaks but again, I'm not really into it because I want the sound output to be as natural and clean as possible.
If you'd use the N5 indoors you don't need to flash/install sound tweaks. You need a proper DAC+Amp connected to the microusb port to properly drive your headphones and/or speakers.

ej8989 said:
I didn't really like v4a's implementation of bass enhancements because they add "boom" instead of "thump". V4a offers quite a bunch of sound tweaks but again, I'm not really into it because I want the sound output to be as natural and clean as possible.
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Personally I love it. I think there are many combinations of settings though and it can take days of tweaking if not weeks to get it right. I hate artificial sounds but I do feel I have got the sounds that best match my headphones. Never use V4a in combination with other sound mods though.

ej8989 said:
I have tried using v4a+faux/dsp combinations. They sound terrible and too artificial for my taste. If you're a basshead go for faux+dsp2.1(not the commonly used dsp 2.0!) so you'll have more options for controlling the bass freq by freq. I didn't really like v4a's implementation of bass enhancements because they add "boom" instead of "thump". V4a offers quite a bunch of sound tweaks but again, I'm not really into it because I want the sound output to be as natural and clean as possible.
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hey Thanks for the detailed post
finding a a kernel with Faux its no problem but can you share where and how to find the right DSP addon
One more thing, would you please tell what does faux kernel do to the audio chipe/hardware ?
can you feel the different without the Manual Tweks / DSP just by installing it and use it as it is ?
Thank you

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[Q] Music quality issue "NO BASS"

I recently got my SGS I9000 international version with Froyo 2.2 pre-installed. when I plugged in ear-phones which came with it, the music quality was Okay but it was lacking bass so I tried changing settings, equalizer, effects, 5.1 Ch everything but nothing enhanced Bass.
I use Power AMP on my other android phone(LG P500) and when I installed same on SGS and increased bass, sound distortion was very high and output was bad and it couldn't produce bass however with same settings sound is great on my LG P500.
I have tried many headsets ans even external amplifier but no good.
Please Help! How can I fix this!
Where did you find an equalizer?
Dont know if you want to go down this route or know how to do this...go and look in the dev section...flash voodoo kernel 5.1 sound fix will sort your problem out....such a massive difference.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Thanks Rixsta
I am wondering if its a hardware issue or software as I have googled a lot about it and didn't fine anyone else complaining for same issue so is it only with my device?
An it would be difficult for me to go for flashing or porting ROMs etc. as I don't want to loose warranty.
Can you or someone from XDA tell me that what is the exact issue with sound? or can someone please install Power AMP and check the sound increasing Bass?
Thanks in advanced!
Voodoo Sound.
just for reference
I did not make any MOD to my phone, and the stock BASS / SUB / BASE sound is very good, even when i stream over BLUETOOTH to my car
or in my BLUETOOTH stereo headphones
it sounds even richer when using the 3.5 mm plug
Finally I flashed kernel to Voodoo_stable_5.1 (voided warranty).
Installed Voodoo sound from market it has option "bass on headphones" under FM Radio
Under WM8994 it has Headphone amplifier which increased the sound volume only "not bsss"
So still the issue remains same......I m not getting punchy bass as I have in other comparatively mid level phones.....I bought it because GSM Arena mentioned that it has perfect sound quality.
Please tell me is it the issue with my SGS only or every SGS has same kind of sound.
Yes manit, I can confirm which the fm radio on not vodoo kernel have "no bass". My friend have samsung wave 8500(bada o.s.)and the bass are ok on his fm radio. Don't understand why, but is so.
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Actually I m not concern about FM radio sound......my problem is when I listen music in music player or "Power AMP " the music lacks Bass
Still I didn't get solution.....
Problem resolved
Got SENNHEISER ear phones .....sound is now great.
the stock headset is just crappy quality. put some good ones in.
too bad they cant give some descent ear plugs with a 500 euro phone
manit_goel said:
I recently got my SGS I9000 international version with Froyo 2.2 pre-installed. when I plugged in ear-phones which came with it,
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Generally speaking, the earphones that come with phones are terrible and are not meant for music appreciation.. I'm not really surprised that you'd find terrible bass/distortion using them.
manit_goel said:
Problem resolved
Got SENNHEISER ear phones .....sound is now great.
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Can you tell me which model of senhiesser did fix the bass even i am badly desperate....
sony's MDR-XB inear headphoes good for our galaxy S in terms of BASS Punches is it ?
SHOULD BE BETTER IN COMPARISION WITH THE ONE THAT COMES WITH IT....BASS BASS BASS BASS [email protected]@@@!
I use sennhieser px360bt. Superb.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using that XDA App thingie
Me too, have that man
SKeijmel said:
the stock headset is just crappy quality. put some good ones in.
too bad they cant give some descent ear plugs with a 500 euro phone
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Quality seems fine to me... and quite durable!
Definitely better than stock ipod earplugs...
The quality of the bundled headphones could be worse...
With regards to sound quality flash a kernel that supports Voodoo Sound 4 and install the Voodoo app from the market place. From there if you plan on messing with the EQ in programs such as PowerAMP or Mixzing then turn the gain down (a long way down...) before you start mucking around with the bass. After that your music should be distortion free and very rumbley should you choose to make it so.
manit_goel said:
Problem resolved
Got SENNHEISER ear phones .....sound is now great.
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i saw a huge diff of sound from eclair to froyo...there r kernel tht improve the sound..but overall what quality of ear phones u use gives a huge diff too.i used panasonic,sony,sennheiserz,philips all were ear buds but i liked creative and i like it.its a little punchy wiv clearity.cheeerz

[Q] What ROM for best audio quality?

Hi,
Just picked up a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 to use as a hiqh quality audio player on the run with my headphones. This was the result of some heavy research and a few posts of praise by Supercurio himself:
On Galaxy Tab 2 7.0, #WM1811 driver uses already the optimal analog mixer configuration I'm calling "Dac Direct" in #VoodooSound. Nice!
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Yup #GalaxySIII and #GalaxyTab 2 7.0 DAC both give lower distortions levels than FIIO E17 USB DAC. Measurements just confirmed perception.
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So, now that hardware seem to be top notch I don't want to mess up the software part. :silly:
1. Will flashing a non-stock ROM mess up the "Dac Direct" configuration?
2. Any recommended ROM with full focus on audio quality through headphones?
3. Or will actually any AOSP KitKat ROM be able to deliver maximum audio quality?
I don't care about effects. Just want as good audio quality through the headphone jack as possible. I will most likely install the "maximum volume mod" (found in the forum) and Viper4Android on any rom used.
Any input is appreciated!
Thanks.
Take a look at this rom
It's stock based.
-ix- said:
Hi,
Just picked up a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 to use as a hiqh quality audio player on the run with my headphones. This was the result of some heavy research and a few posts of praise by Supercurio himself:
So, now that hardware seem to be top notch I don't want to mess up the software part. :silly:
1. Will flashing a non-stock ROM mess up the "Dac Direct" configuration?
2. Any recommended ROM with full focus on audio quality through headphones?
3. Or will actually any AOSP KitKat ROM be able to deliver maximum audio quality?
I don't care about effects. Just want as good audio quality through the headphone jack as possible. I will most likely install the "maximum volume mod" (found in the forum) and Viper4Android on any rom used.
Any input is appreciated!
Thanks.
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Sungsonic HD is best Stock based ROM ever which offers premium quality sound. There are basically two Kitkat based ROMs (AFAIK) named Izer HD and Dhollman ROM which have Viper4Android sound effects with great inbuilt equalizers... here you go :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2668994
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2580426
in case of Dhollman you will have to flash Viper4android sounds effects separately....but in Izer hd it comes by default......
CyanogenMod has a nice audio tuner allowing you to tune your sound to your likings.
If it is not already clear, you can also tune your headphones sound.
Big thanks to all of you for taking the time to reply to my question.
I'm a bit worried though that the ROMs mentioned - well not CM, but the other two - seem to have loads of apps, mods and tweaks ported from other devices which could actually cause instability and degrade the sound. Of course, I don't really know this since I haven't tried them myself, but having flashed a lot of ROMs on other devices I've learned that this is often the case....
I am leaning towards trying two different configurations and then deciding.
Stock (rooted) + Viper4Android
CM11 + Viper4Android
Once again, thanks for your input!
EDIT:
Somehow I missed the suggestion of Dhollmen KitKat ROM above. That actually seems really interresting. I like the fact that it is compiled using Linaro, which suggest a nice attention to detail by the dev.
-ix- said:
Big thanks to all of you for taking the time to reply to my question.
I'm a bit worried though that the ROMs mentioned - well not CM, but the other two - seem to have loads of apps, mods and tweaks ported from other devices which could actually cause instability and degrade the sound. Of course, I don't really know this since I haven't tried them myself, but having flashed a lot of ROMs on other devices I've learned that this is often the case....
I am leaning towards trying two different configurations and then deciding.
Stock (rooted) + Viper4Android
CM11 + Viper4Android
Once again, thanks for your input!
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If you are actually trying to install it, it'd be a nice try to tune your sound, keep the volume a bit low, and over that, try to make some mixer/equalizer tuning to make it sound quite a bit louder, while still sounding nice, without any distortions. Somewhat like Loudness Equalization.
CyanogenMod is basically full stock Android, with a few tweaks, some of them including Audio.
Speaking of loads of apps installed..
DSP Manager is included with CyanogenMod... and not much apps have been added. It's also much faster than your average Android ROM.
CyanogenModFTW said:
If you are actually trying to install it, it'd be a nice try to tune your sound, keep the volume a bit low, and over that, try to make some mixer/equalizer tuning to make it sound quite a bit louder, while still sounding nice, without any distortions. Somewhat like Loudness Equalization.
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Yes, properly EQing my headphones is the main reason for installing Viper. I do it a lot on my computer, using a parametric EQ, and to tell the truth, I can't really enjoy music anymore without being able to finely tune my headphones....
I don't care at all for other effects as my experience is that they always degrade the sound (which is also why I steered away from the ROMs mentioned above, even if they are popular).
Strange enough though, I didn't find the volume lacking at all. To me, the headphone amp is powerful enough on stock settings. :good:
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I do like DSP Manager in CM (running CM10.1 and CM11 on other devices). It's a really great EQ, and pretty refined crossfeed effect. However, IMHO Viper is a little bit better for my needs.
-ix- said:
Yes, properly EQing my headphones is the main reason for installing Viper. I do it a lot on my computer, using a parametric EQ, and to tell the truth, I can't really enjoy music anymore without being able to finely tune my headphones....
I don't care at all for other effects as my experience is that they always degrade the sound (which is also why I steered away from the ROMs mentioned above, even if they are popular).
Strange enough though, I didn't find the volume lacking at all. To me, the headphone amp is powerful enough on stock settings. :good:
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I do have a nice configuration on my p5100, I have my sound set to low, but it's great and loud sounding. I have enabled bass boosting, and made a custom Equalizer preset that boosts up the mid frequencies quite a bit.
Also, CyanogenMod is a fast and fluid, lightweight ROM which is also good for everyday uses. The tweaks make for a good ROM, so far I haven't had any problems.
You should try the settings which work best with your speakers or headphones, they are never the same and never reproduce the same frequencies.
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It was also worth to mention that I have reccomended Cyanogen because DSP Manager is really simple to use. I've found the tweaks and effects to be instant.
I have now rooted my P3110 and installed Viper4Android. Only judging from what I hear, the "direct DAC" configuration (mentioned in the first post) does not seem to be messed up, because the audio coming out of the headphone jack still seems immaculately clear. :good:
Using Viper I can now tweak the EQ to my heart's content. Just wish there were a few more bands....
Since I'm mostly using my P3110 for listening to music, I think I will stay stock for now. Doesn't seem all that laggy to me!
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Somehow I missed the suggestion of Dhollmen KitKat ROM above. That actually seems really interresting. I like the fact that it is compiled using Linaro, which suggest a nice attention to detail by the dev.[/QUOTE]
By far the best. There will be no disappointment. Try it and judge for yourself
Thanks for your advice. I have now installed Dhollmen AOKP KitKat ROM, and I must say the speed and snappiness of the GUI is nothing short of amazing. Suddenly feels like a high end device - I'm thoroughly impressed! :good:
Now, to the sound. I think it's really good. The clarity is still there. But there seems to be some kind of bass boost always enabled. Even turning Viper completely off the level of bass definitely feels higher than before.
Is this all in my head or could it be explained by something under the hood?
Maybe the bass was a bit recessed with stock ROM...
Anyway, after experiencing this speed, there is no going back!
Sent a long time ago from a Galaxy S2 far, far away...
For future reference....
After listening a lot on said configuration I can now with full confidence claim that the audio output is truly great. I actually think the bass was unnaturally recessed on the stock ROM, as previously suspected.
Furthermore, I have done the Boosted volume mod found in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294136 It helps immensely to improve the output stage, which now drives my somewhat hard to drive headphones immaculately!
So, to conclude this thread, for others looking for the best possible audio quality on their Tab 2, do try:
Any non-bloated Kit Kat ROM + Viper4Android + Boosted volume mod. :good:
Dhollmen, mentioned above, comes pre-installed with Viper, and is a great polished ROM, but I guess any bare bones Kit Kat ROM would do the job, such as Omni or CM.
Happy audiophiling!

Headphone output is incredibly disappointing

The entire audio experience with anything plugged in to the headphone jack is really poor. I immediately noticed a difference in quality as compared to my old LG V10 (even without the Hi-Fi DAC on the V10 enabled). Everything sounded muddy, with a lack of treble. I messed around with the equalizer and got really strange results. Adding treble or bass actually lowered the volume significantly. I tried the "Adapt Sound" feature, and it helped slightly, but I've recently noticed what I consider the weirdest part of the experience. The last 2 clicks of volume (the highest two settings) have significantly less treble than anywhere else in the volume range. This was the source of the muddiness I had been experiencing (the amp is weak enough that the top two volume settings are what I would consider to be normal listening volume). If you listen carefully, you can actually hear certain parts of the sound (bass, vocals, treble, depending on the song) will stay at exactly the same volume while others will increase with the volume slider.
I don't know if this is a software thing (horrible EQ coding), or a hardware thing (the amp is so poor that they have to limit the overall power when you increase the treble or bass). Either way, I've never experienced this before in any other phone I've ever had.
I listen to a lot of music via headphones or aux cable on my phone, so this is a really disappointing discovery for me. Looks like I'll be bringing my headphone amp with me, even for use with headphones that really shouldn't need it (60 ohms). There is a range of volume where things sound acceptable, but it's crazy to me that I need an external device to control the volume because things get so crazy when I control it with the phone.
Then go back to the V10?
Brava27 said:
Then go back to the V10?
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I wasn't posting this to bash the phone. There are lots of things I like better about the S7E than the V10. I just wanted to post this in case it was important to someone else deciding whether or not to choose this phone. It's not a deal breaker for me. In fact, I still haven't turned my V10 in (T-Mobile Jump on Demand), so I could easily still keep it. But I'm not going to.
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Then go back to the V10?
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Calm down, he's found an issue and is looking to see if anybody else is having the same issue. I see nothing wrong with that.
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dodgeboy said:
The entire audio experience with anything plugged in to the headphone jack is really poor. I immediately noticed a difference in quality as compared to my old LG V10 (even without the Hi-Fi DAC on the V10 enabled). Everything sounded muddy, with a lack of treble. I messed around with the equalizer and got really strange results. Adding treble or bass actually lowered the volume significantly. I tried the "Adapt Sound" feature, and it helped slightly, but I've recently noticed what I consider the weirdest part of the experience. The last 2 clicks of volume (the highest two settings) have significantly less treble than anywhere else in the volume range. This was the source of the muddiness I had been experiencing (the amp is weak enough that the top two volume settings are what I would consider to be normal listening volume). If you listen carefully, you can actually hear certain parts of the sound (bass, vocals, treble, depending on the song) will stay at exactly the same volume while others will increase with the volume slider.
I don't know if this is a software thing (horrible EQ coding), or a hardware thing (the amp is so poor that they have to limit the overall power when you increase the treble or bass). Either way, I've never experienced this before in any other phone I've ever had.
I listen to a lot of music via headphones or aux cable on my phone, so this is a really disappointing discovery for me. Looks like I'll be bringing my headphone amp with me, even for use with headphones that really shouldn't need it (60 ohms). There is a range of volume where things sound acceptable, but it's crazy to me that I need an external device to control the volume because things get so crazy when I control it with the phone.
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I've not noticed this myself but I'm not as big with my music (through my headphones) as some people. I listen through my bluetooth speaker and rarely through headphones so when I do I wouldn't really notice anything like this.
Are the DAC`s the same in both SD820 and Exynos variants? exynos have always had the Wolfson DAC in reasent galaxys which is awsome!
I think there are different DAC's. The Exynos uses one from the company that used to provide the Wolfson chip. So it could be the same/similar one or another model. I think so far nobody knows for sure. The SD820 uses a different DAC.
does everybody have the EQ in sound settings?
johanbiff said:
does everybody have the EQ in sound settings?
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Yes but it sucks. If you raise the treble it will lower bass/mids etc. Really crappy EQ totally unusable for music lovers.
Though I find my Harman Kardon CL headphones sounds fine. Not as fine as in my Huawei Mate 8 perhaps but good enough.
dodgeboy said:
The entire audio experience with anything plugged in to the headphone jack is really poor. I immediately noticed a difference in quality as compared to my old LG V10 (even without the Hi-Fi DAC on the V10 enabled). Everything sounded muddy, with a lack of treble. I messed around with the equalizer and got really strange results. Adding treble or bass actually lowered the volume significantly. I tried the "Adapt Sound" feature, and it helped slightly, but I've recently noticed what I consider the weirdest part of the experience. The last 2 clicks of volume (the highest two settings) have significantly less treble than anywhere else in the volume range. This was the source of the muddiness I had been experiencing (the amp is weak enough that the top two volume settings are what I would consider to be normal listening volume). If you listen carefully, you can actually hear certain parts of the sound (bass, vocals, treble, depending on the song) will stay at exactly the same volume while others will increase with the volume slider.
I don't know if this is a software thing (horrible EQ coding), or a hardware thing (the amp is so poor that they have to limit the overall power when you increase the treble or bass). Either way, I've never experienced this before in any other phone I've ever had.
I listen to a lot of music via headphones or aux cable on my phone, so this is a really disappointing discovery for me. Looks like I'll be bringing my headphone amp with me, even for use with headphones that really shouldn't need it (60 ohms). There is a range of volume where things sound acceptable, but it's crazy to me that I need an external device to control the volume because things get so crazy when I control it with the phone.
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Let me guess, you are using a Snapdragon 820 variant ? The Qualcomm DAC (which is used on these devices) is being known for being average (at best, if not mediocre), every Samsung device sporting a Qualcomm chipset has been known to feature a poor DAC, it is sad that Qualcomm does not care much about improving its performances in the sound department. You would have had better luck with the Exynos variant of the S7 in that regard.
I thought this was just me. Glad to see others are noticing this as well. I agree that upping the EQ doesn't change the volume at all. Furthermore, adding bass doesn't isolate the bass, it just sounds like the entire song is played through a tube. Every adjustment seems to touch the entire sound profile as a whole rather than just targeting the specific frequencies shown in the equilizer.
I've gotten too used to AudioFX on my Oneplus One, where I could really crank the bass while keeping the clarity of the highs and mids.
dannejanne said:
Yes but it sucks. If you raise the treble it will lower bass/mids etc. Really crappy EQ totally unusable for music lovers.
Though I find my Harman Kardon CL headphones sounds fine. Not as fine as in my Huawei Mate 8 perhaps but good enough.
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Do you use the presets or custom?
johanbiff said:
Do you use the presets or custom?
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I don't change anything I use stock neutral settings.
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I normally don't use Bluetooth audio but I did notice a huge decline in audio quality from my Galaxy Note 5. Bluetooth audio playing to my Denon x4100W on B&W CM6S2s and Hsu VTF3-Mk5 sub from my S7E is very flat, almost monotone. I would say the Galaxy Note 5 BT audio was acceptable. I'll need to do some more fiddling around with the S7E to see if I can improve the sound.
doggiedog said:
I normally don't use Bluetooth audio but I did notice a huge decline in audio quality from my Galaxy Note 5. Bluetooth audio playing to my Denon x4100W on B&W CM6S2s and Hsu VTF3-Mk5 sub from my S7E is very flat, almost monotone. I would say the Galaxy Note 5 BT audio was acceptable. I'll need to do some more fiddling around with the S7E to see if I can improve the sound.
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I just can't seem to get the EQ to change individual frequencies, it seems to move the whole soundstage. Tuning the bass has an effect on every frequencies, at least for me.
I use Spotify, output over headphones is great. For some reason the same music sucks on Tidal, I have to crank the volume almost all the way instead of just halfway on Spotify so I'm rocking that instead. And with Tidal the quality isn't as good, I have no explanation.
jwhatts said:
I just can't seem to get the EQ to change individual frequencies, it seems to move the whole soundstage. Tuning the bass has an effect on every frequencies, at least for me.
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Root + Viper4Android is the way to go if you want a proper EQ.
Yeah the sound isn't as good as I was hoping for but I can live with it.
Exynos S7 Edge here and after doing a quick comparison to my iPod Touch 5th Gen, comparing its audio quality and amp volume through my Bose AE headphones, they sound the same quality wise, but the iPod can go a slight but noticeably bit louder when both devices are at maximum volume. They sound the exact same to me quality wise when they are both at the same volume. I haven't done extensive testing though, just first impressions. I wouldn't be playing at maximum volume anyway though through headphones, even on the S7 Edge because its plenty loud enough for my needs.
It should be capable enough hooked up to a car stereo.
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Exynos S7 Edge here and after doing a quick comparison to my iPod Touch 5th Gen, comparing its audio quality and amp volume through my Bose AE headphones, they sound the same quality wise, but the iPod can go a slight but noticeably bit louder when both devices are at maximum volume. They sound the exact same to me quality wise when they are both at the same volume. I haven't done extensive testing though, just first impressions. I wouldn't be playing at maximum volume anyway though through headphones, even on the S7 Edge because its plenty loud enough for my needs.
It should be capable enough hooked up to a car stereo.
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yeah im on exynos as well and I have no complians, sounds like my old S6 with wolfson DAC but with more volume.
johanbiff said:
Are the DAC`s the same in both SD820 and Exynos variants? exynos have always had the Wolfson DAC in reasent galaxys which is awsome!
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Really curious about this piece of info. Can you back it up?
I'm a huge audio enthusiast and it's a nice thing to hear.
Btw, was the wolfson DAC also available in the Exynos S5? (900h) I currently own this, as well as the Exynos s7 (couldn't test the audio so far) and wouldn't mind pairing the Exynos s5 with a headphone AMP and turn it into a dedicated media player.
THanks

Audio Quality

Appears awful when compared to my s5. Any Base makes vocal go almost to a pint you can't hear it and too much vocal results in tinny Base.
I've rooted and put v4a on the phone,but it's still awful with that too. Hoping a kernel with audio enhancements such as boeffla may make things better though?
you rooted S7E already?? WOW
I don't care about the audio quality of the noise coming out of that little noisemaker they call "speaker" but when I plug it in my car with the AUX cable, it seems to me so far that I have to fiddle with EQ much more than on my Note 5. The audio quality of LG Flex 2 was better than S5, Note 5 better than Flex 2, S7E... ? I don't know yet. Probably better than Flex 2 but it can't touch Note 5. IMHO
Note 5 has Wolfson chip AFAIK.What's in the S7E I don't know.
riso123 said:
Appears awful when compared to my s5. Any Base makes vocal go almost to a pint you can't hear it and too much vocal results in tinny Base.
I've rooted and put v4a on the phone,but it's still awful with that too. Hoping a kernel with audio enhancements such as boeffla may make things better though?
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V4A? May i ask how did you managed to install it on a enforcing kernel?
Could you please provide steps...
Player04 said:
you rooted S7E already?? WOW
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How?
Guys, check the kernel and ROM forum. Root has been available since Saturday.
V4a works by flagging a zip file that makes changes to v4a to allow it to work with kernel selinux enforced set, then put v4a in compatible mode. It sounds awful though for some reason.
Would highly recommend using neutron from the play store as I found this produces far superior sound quality.
Oh I should mention root is only available for exynos version and not snapdragon.
I find the audio fine using the music player neutron and have setup soundalive and UHQ upscaler and tube amp pro.
I use Sennheiser MOMENTUM In-Ear
http://en-uk.sennheiser.com/momentum-headphones-in-ear
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Aux Cord Noise~?
I'd love to know if I am the only one experiencing problems with using an auxiliary jack cord?
It's littered with noise no matter what. Headphones sound great though...
I returned my first device thinking there was a physical problem with the port only to find the same problem in this one.
5 different auxiliary cables purchased and tested all poor quality only on this device.
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I'd love to know if I am the only one experiencing problems with using an auxiliary jack cord?
It's littered with noise no matter what. Headphones sound great though...
I returned my first device thinking there was a physical problem with the port only to find the same problem in this one.
5 different auxiliary cables purchased and tested all poor quality only on this device.
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Yes, same here. Switching on UHQ upscaler in sound setting fixes it. Sometimes, however, I have to toggle it off and on to get rid of the hissing noise.
GermanGuy said:
Yes, same here. Switching on UHQ upscaler in sound setting fixes it. Sometimes, however, I have to toggle it off and on to get rid of the hissing noise.
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I appreciate that, I'll have to try and let everyone know if that works.. I saw threads on other websites with no answers so really, thank you.
Seems rather odd even samsung support has no idea about this either.
But Samsung uhq upscaler work only with Samsung headphones (like level on wireless pro), so possibility of using this feature is limited
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Yes, same here. Switching on UHQ upscaler in sound setting fixes it. Sometimes, however, I have to toggle it off and on to get rid of the hissing noise.
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Identical issue for me as well. Thought I was going insane...tried three different aux cords and tried cleaning inputs in the car and on the phone. Headphones work fine. Toggling UHQ upscaler fixes the issue for me too. Very annoying....but glad I'm not the only one.
I am extremely disappointed with the S7 Edge's audio quality. First of all, the bundled earphones are bad and be it any file - FLAC UHQ 24 bit or an MP3, the sound pis very muddy. They fail to do justice to the lows and highs. Speaking for the device, my dad's Galaxy S5 sounds wonderful with heavy bass without compromising on the highs and the same goes with the Note 3. Samsung should have used a decent DAC and software to make the sound good for such a premium device. Even the low end Samsung devices have a good DAC.
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I am extremely disappointed with the S7 Edge's audio quality. First of all, the bundled earphones are bad and be it any file - FLAC UHQ 24 bit or an MP3, the sound pis very muddy. They fail to do justice to the lows and highs. Speaking for the device, my dad's Galaxy S5 sounds wonderful with heavy bass without compromising on the highs and the same goes with the Note 3. Samsung should have used a decent DAC and software to make the sound good for such a premium device. Even the low end Samsung devices have a good DAC.
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If you want a phone for Audio get a ZTE Axon 7, HTC 10, LG V20. Only devices that are aiming for great audio quality :good:
abhijeetlokras said:
I am extremely disappointed with the S7 Edge's audio quality. First of all, the bundled earphones are bad and be it any file - FLAC UHQ 24 bit or an MP3, the sound pis very muddy. They fail to do justice to the lows and highs. Speaking for the device, my dad's Galaxy S5 sounds wonderful with heavy bass without compromising on the highs and the same goes with the Note 3. Samsung should have used a decent DAC and software to make the sound good for such a premium device. Even the low end Samsung devices have a good DAC.
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liam_davenport said:
If you want a phone for Audio get a ZTE Axon 7, HTC 10, LG V20. Only devices that are aiming for great audio quality :good:
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There is nothing wrong with the DAC. It has a low noise floor and the frequency graph is almost completely flat. The headphone amp however is nothing to write home about. On the Exynos version you can at least edit the mixer.xml file to reduce the gimping Samsung did to the volume level to get a much louder sound without distortion. My RHA MA 750i have plenty of bass without the need to EQ etc.
Oh and the stock buds SUCK ASS
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There is nothing wrong with the DAC. It has a low noise floor and the frequency graph is almost completely flat. The headphone amp however is nothing to write home about. On the Exynos version you can at least edit the mixer.xml file to reduce the gimping Samsung did to the volume level to get a much louder sound without distortion. My RHA MA 750i have plenty of bass without the need to EQ etc.
Oh and the stock buds SUCK ASS
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Don't feel like rooting the phone! I regularly use S Health and Knox.. I hope Samsung fixes audio in the next update (if that's possible).
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Don't feel like rooting the phone! I regularly use S Health and Knox.. I hope Samsung fixes audio in the next update (if that's possible).
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Definitely not a need to root BUT if you do, you can still use S Health and Knox with Helios ROM (Stock with optional mods).
They won't. They've gone with the "good enough" approach with the audio rather than wanting to be the best.
Galactus said:
There is nothing wrong with the DAC. It has a low noise floor and the frequency graph is almost completely flat. The headphone amp however is nothing to write home about. On the Exynos version you can at least edit the mixer.xml file to reduce the gimping Samsung did to the volume level to get a much louder sound without distortion. My RHA MA 750i have plenty of bass without the need to EQ etc.
Oh and the stock buds SUCK ASS
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What changes can be made to improve this?
riso123 said:
What changes can be made to improve this?
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Just flash Zubi's sound mod.

A great DAC and not being able to use it ...

The Pixel 4a has this DAC, which as you can see is a great DAC, its specs are even better than many HIFI portable audio players. Well, for the uninitiated, android acts as a bottleneck in this case, as it always limits the audio output to 16bit 48khz (using a low quality resampler for the benefit of performance)
Is there any way I can use it decently? Because Google apparently has no intention of doing anything, it hasn't even shared any information on how to use the DAC, and I don't like the idea of having to use an external dac even though the 4a has a headphone jack.
I'd like to know too. Doesn't Viper4Android help get more out of it? I'm getting pretty great sound with that + PowerAmp.
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I'd like to know too. Doesn't Viper4Android help get more out of it? I'm getting pretty great sound with that + PowerAmp.
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mmm I need to know how you set the audio settings, the output audio is resampled to 48khz? have you set the output in HD?
You mean my settings in PowerAmp or Viper?
Yeah.. It seems that Hi-res potential is not implemented in the stock ROM. Everything is mixed into 48 kHz...
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Yeah.. It seems that Hi-res potential is not implemented in the stock ROM. Everything is mixed into 48 kHz...
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I see. Is there any custom Rom that implements it?
Also, have you tried Ainur Narsil? Perhaps it does what you want. I'm just unsure whether it will work on Android 11, it seems development is paused.
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Also, have you tried Ainur Narsil? Perhaps it does what you want. I'm just unsure whether it will work on Android 11, it seems development is paused.
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I'm not aware of any custom ROM which supports hi-res. If you know, please tell.
I've tried ainur but without success. And smth was even corrupted because sound became worse.
Mary be community should raise an issue for Google.
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I'm not aware of any custom ROM which supports hi-res. If you know, please tell.
I've tried ainur but without success. And smth was even corrupted because sound became worse.
Mary be community should raise an issue for Google.
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I've no idea actually. I'm interested in this stuff, but not so much as to notice worse quality with the 48khz Android output. And yeah, that's why I haven't tried Narsil, it doesn't seem to be too well tested in A11 and we don't even have a proper TWRP in case something goes wrong. Still, I am noticing a difference with my modded Sony NW-A45, but it's not like it sounds better, it sounds different perhaps.
Poweramp is terrible. You need an app that bypasses androids software. Usb audio player pro is the best available. It plays bitperfect audio. Neutron is second, it can also play bitperfect audio. Both apps can output 32bit/364kz at whatever rate the Track allows. Uapp plays MQA as well

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