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Anyone here got his/her Fuze replaced under warranty (not insurance) from AT&T? I'd like to know the procedure as I bought it at AT&T online store not the local one. Can I still go to a local store and ask for repair/replacement?
It's been more than 30 days and I have tried probably most of the options available. The issue is that it freezes up frequently and it mostly happens while I am using Outlook over WiFi. Either loading a message (frequently) or doing a send/receive (sometimes).
I tried removing the SD card just to make sure that it's not the card or SD driver issue, but that didn't help much. The WiFi is also spotty at best, taking more than a minute to connect when I am just couple of feet away from the router and also disconnects frequently.
I have tried several different ROMs as well, so I guess the last option is to try a different phone. My other thread with the issues is here.
TIA.
Stores don't handle warranty claims, you have to go through the telephone support or take it to a Device Support Center. If you try to go to the store, they'll just call up the warranty line and hand you the phone, so don't waste your time with a trip to the store.
rexian said:
Anyone here got his/her Fuze replaced under warranty (not insurance) from AT&T? I'd like to know the procedure as I bought it at AT&T online store not the local one. Can I still go to a local store and ask for repair/replacement?
It's been more than 30 days and I have tried probably most of the options available. The issue is that it freezes up frequently and it mostly happens while I am using Outlook over WiFi. Either loading a message (frequently) or doing a send/receive (sometimes).
I tried removing the SD card just to make sure that it's not the card or SD driver issue, but that didn't help much. The WiFi is also spotty at best, taking more than a minute to connect when I am just couple of feet away from the router and also disconnects frequently.
I have tried several different ROMs as well, so I guess the last option is to try a different phone. My other thread with the issues is here.
TIA.
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just had my fuze replaced because it was freezing. go on at&t's website and call the 800 number and tell them your issue, took 3 business days to get to me.
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just had my fuze replaced because it was freezing. go on at&t's website and call the 800 number and tell them your issue, took 3 business days to get to me.
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What build date did you get and does it get hot when you use data like watching Cingular Video or similar?
Mine gets so hot it burned my finger and want to try to get one that doesn't have this issue(a newer build??), but not sure if they fixed it or if they all have this issue.
I work for AT&T in tech support and warrranty exchange.
After 30 days, you have to do Exchange by mail or at a device service center.
Thanks guys, I'll contact AT&T. I was hoping I don't have to send it back as I already put on an InvisibleShield screen protector. I am sure the protector will not be usable once I remove it from the device and I may have to order another one, but that's probably OK.
Another question, do I have to send it in before or I can ship it after receiving the replacement?
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What build date did you get and does it get hot when you use data like watching Cingular Video or similar?
Mine gets so hot it burned my finger and want to try to get one that doesn't have this issue(a newer build??), but not sure if they fixed it or if they all have this issue.
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Mine gets a bit warm too when I have been browsing for few minutes (15+) or when it's downloading lot of emails. But it's never too hot to touch. Main issue is freezing while loading an email in Outlook and I am forced to reset.
I received the replacement Fuze on Friday and have been trying it for last 2 days with the stock ROM with only few apps (like CorePlayer, Resco Explorer etc) from the microSD card. It has the same problem and I had to reset it at least 6 times already.
What does it mean? I thought it'd be pretty unlikely for 2 phones exhibiting the same issues, no? Could it be the card?
Thanks.
i replaced my first fuze... just make sure to flash it back to factory rom and radio and if u have security unlocked your fuze... DO NOT and i mean DO NOT forget to PM olipro on how to security re-lock your phone. other than that it was a smooth transaction for me... i paid for next day shipping, got it the next morning.. same afternoon mailed my old phone back and that was it.
You said you tried several different roms... well that eliminates the software. And it is happening across 2 different phones...
So it could only be 2 things:
Problem with all Fuze phones
OR
Problem with something you are doing/using
I usually don't have to reset my FUZE often... nor have I heard of others having a big problem. So the problem has to be something on your end.
What programs are you installing? Remove your microSD card... maybe Email and/or Browser cache is being saved on the microSD card and causing a bottleneck = freezing.
Yes, since the new phone has everything stock and just a few apps, I'm quite sure it's not the software or else the forums would have been flooded with such complaints. Only thing common in these phones was the card. This A-Data microSD seems to be fine too when I connect it to my PC, but who knows.
I have installed a new ROM (Da_G clean ROM) on my first phone and every app (Spb Mobile Shell, CorePlayer, TorchButton, pcShutXP, Resco Explorer, Skyfire, Adv Confg) I want and running it for last couple of hours without the card. So far so good. I have opned at least 10 HTML emails in Gmail, Outlook & Hotmail without a crash. If it goes fine for a day, I guess we'll have an answer.
Only thing I am missing with this ROM is the HTC gesture in Outlook, Explorer etc. I tried the Da_G version of HTC gesture but it doesn't work. Thanks.
at&t thoughts & general warranty policy...
general policy:
w/in 30 days- store will handle returns- you get a brand new fuze.
after 30 days- tech support/warranty exchange for new or (more likely) refurbished units. I have recieved many refurbished units in the past with no problems. After 3 warranty /exchages, at&t generally offers you a different phone all together.
Make sure you return your device to them as it was originally sent to you. I found this out after returning a Nokia N-75 (att edition) with the non-branded Nokia update.... they don't like it very much and you get charged $200+. This means, PM Olipro if you have paid for security unlocking, reflash stock ROM, and I have to admit, I would try my best to have the stock SPL on there too....
Thanks friends. Sorry, I forgot to mention that I never got it security unlocked. So, I just need put the stock SPL back but now I am wondering what's the point in returning the old one as the new one is no better. It hung once today and I didn't even use it that much. So I'll return the new one and wait for 6.5 release to see if that improves anything for me.
i ordered mine online, it was freezing and such, i took it into the store before the 30 day mark and they exchanged it.
I think I should have done that too. Instead, I was trying different ROMs and software and finally when I contacted AT&T, 30 days were over. For me even the new one wasn't any better (probably they sent a refurb), so I returned it yesterday and kept the old one.
There's not much you can do about general bugginess in the phone - this is a characteristic of pretty much all smartphones. When I had the 8525 I must have exchanged it 5-6 times until I finally learned my lesson. From what I have heard Palm OS has the same problem. Even when I did a one-month trial of an iPhone I had to soft reset a lot. It's a bit like Windows 3.1 or 95/98 - it just has to be reset every so often or else it crashes. I have heard that blackberries (at least non-Storm blackberries) are better but I have never had one.
What really sucks about AT&T warranty service is that they don't ship internationally (as I just discovered). So, the ungrateful f$#%!s have taken my $39.99 a month for the last four months without my using a single minute, but they won't ship my replacement phone to me here in Israel. So much for an "international warranty."
If you are curious, my screen died, but that's the subject of another thread
I've got a small crack across the top right hand corner of my screen. I called today to make a warranty claim and she said that was physical damanage and they dont cover it. Which didnt make sense to me as I pay the 5 dollars a month for insurance on it and they said they would cover physical damage. That's niether here nor there though.
So I explained the screen cracked and she said she would talk to a warranty guy he said Nope wont cover it so she sent me to the insurance department saying I would have to pay 50 dollars for a replacement as part of the stipulations of the insurance I have. Okay kind of making sense.. 50 dollars I can handle not a big deal. The insurance lady then tells me that I have to pay 125 dollars for the phone. WHAT!? I was just told it would cost 50 dollars AND when I signed up I was told it would be 50 dollars. This didnt make any sense to me. She said 85-90 percent of their high end phones only cost 50 dollars to replace with the insurance but the fuze costs 125 dollars cause its a VERY high end phone. Grrrr I was specifically told it would be 50 by the people at the ATT store. Now granted they may not have known any better but if an employee promises you something I think the company should suck it up and stick to that deal.
SO I now have a fine working phone with a crack on the screen. They're telling me that it comes with a a year warranty which apparently doesnt cover anything and with the extra 5 dollars a month I pay for insurance ($65.00 a year tax inc) I still have to fork out a ton of cash.
Has anyone else experienced this with ATT? Any advice? I told them to hold on with the claim as I wasnt about to have them bill me an additional 125 dollars.
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Aaron McCarthy said:
I've got a small crack across the top right hand corner of my screen. I called today to make a warranty claim and she said that was physical damanage and they dont cover it. Which didnt make sense to me as I pay the 5 dollars a month for insurance on it and they said they would cover physical damage. That's niether here nor there though.
So I explained the screen cracked and she said she would talk to a warranty guy he said Nope wont cover it so she sent me to the insurance department saying I would have to pay 50 dollars for a replacement as part of the stipulations of the insurance I have. Okay kind of making sense.. 50 dollars I can handle not a big deal. The insurance lady then tells me that I have to pay 125 dollars for the phone. WHAT!? I was just told it would cost 50 dollars AND when I signed up I was told it would be 50 dollars. This didnt make any sense to me. She said 85-90 percent of their high end phones only cost 50 dollars to replace with the insurance but the fuze costs 125 dollars cause its a VERY high end phone. Grrrr I was specifically told it would be 50 by the people at the ATT store. Now granted they may not have known any better but if an employee promises you something I think the company should suck it up and stick to that deal.
SO I now have a fine working phone with a crack on the screen. They're telling me that it comes with a a year warranty which apparently doesnt cover anything and with the extra 5 dollars a month I pay for insurance ($65.00 a year tax inc) I still have to fork out a ton of cash.
Has anyone else experienced this with ATT? Any advice? I told them to hold on with the claim as I wasnt about to have them bill me an additional 125 dollars.
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Hi Aaron,
My friend is an expert at dealing with customer support and their bull$hit. From him, I have learned that you should just keep telling them what you were promised, regardless of what the "contract" may be. Tell them that their integrity rides on the matter of it, etc and if they don't fold ask for a manager or someone else that can actually help you out and give you waht you were promised. just don't give up and be persistent with them without getting upset or angry (try not to) and just complain until they give in. If you've been with them for a while, just tell them that you've given them sooo much money and you're a loyal customer, etc. Good luck!
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Does anybody know if AT&T is starting to exchange the fuze for the new tilt 2. I'm talking insurance exchange or warranty exchange. Anybody know something about it, or they still have the fuze on stock?????
wisocabeza said:
Does anybody know if AT&T is starting to exchange the fuze for the new tilt 2. I'm talking insurance exchange or warranty exchange. Anybody know something about it, or they still have the fuze on stock?????
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They still have the Fuze in stock :/
I called so many times, it's not even funny.
Here's something that might pique your interest. Couple of minutes ago, I saw this thread about people impatiently waiting to exchange their Tilt's to Fuze's. The Fuze was available in the Warranty Department approximately three weeks after it was officially launched.
It was an interesting thread to read. It seemed like many were purposely destroying their Tilt's to get them warrantied to Tilt's again, just to "extend" the warranty period since each warranty carries 90 days. The "best method" suggested was removing the USB cable while updating, and then playing dumb about it, lol.
fuze has a 1 year warranty. let me know if anyone has figured out a way. >.>
It's a nightmare trying to get a replacement through Warranty. I'm on my fourth Fuze now, because I have had legit warranty claims. They decided to upgrade me to a Tilt 2, sent me seed stock instead of a new phone kit, so I have a Tilt 2 without a battery or software. I called about that, they were supposed to send me out my new phone kit with a Tilt 2 in it yet again, sent me a Pure instead. Now I'm waiting for them to send me a battery for the Tilt 2 that I already have cause they don't have any new phone kits in stock for the Tilt 2. Though, I'm kind of tempted to try out the Pure, just because I can't hear anything on my Fuze as is and have some very important stuff coming up with work where I need to be able to hear customers. Ugh, AT&T can be a nightmare to deal with. I'm actually really tempted to switch to Verizon, Sprint, or T-mobile right now.
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It's a nightmare trying to get a replacement through Warranty. I'm on my fourth Fuze now, because I have had legit warranty claims. They decided to upgrade me to a Tilt 2, sent me seed stock instead of a new phone kit, so I have a Tilt 2 without a battery or software. I called about that, they were supposed to send me out my new phone kit with a Tilt 2 in it yet again, sent me a Pure instead. Now I'm waiting for them to send me a battery for the Tilt 2 that I already have cause they don't have any new phone kits in stock for the Tilt 2. Though, I'm kind of tempted to try out the Pure, just because I can't hear anything on my Fuze as is and have some very important stuff coming up with work where I need to be able to hear customers. Ugh, AT&T can be a nightmare to deal with. I'm actually really tempted to switch to Verizon, Sprint, or T-mobile right now.
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I'm on my 4th Fuze as well. How did you get them to even send you the Tilt 2? They just kept on saying it's not available yet.
Just got the right CSR that put it through, and you have to be very nice to them. Just asked about comparable phones, he suggested it - it has to be their idea and recommendation. Still trying to get a battery from AT&T, they say they're out of stock, Warranty called a couple stores close by couldn't find one, but on the website it doesn't say they're out, but it's unlikely they'd send me a new one, heaven forbid. I've got three phones in my possession right now, my screwed up Fuze, a new in the box Pure and the Tilt 2. I'm worried they're going to screw up and bill me for all of them full price, even though they have assured me that won't happen. When I worked in collections years ago for them, saw that happen all the time, even when the phones were sent back in time, it was always a pain to sort out.
Being a ex at&t store manager let me tell you how the XBM (exchange by mail) process works.... If you have a defective device that is within its warrant period which is 1 year from the date that you started your contract at&t will switch it out at no cost to you. The phone cannot be water damanged, or physically damanged (there pretty strict about this). I have had customer who there definition of physical damange was different from what at&t thought and they ended up getting charged full price for the phone. so be very careful. They don't usually take anything that has been dropped or have deep scratches. Basically has to look ok where they can sell it again as a refurb or something. Secondly the only way they will send you out a different device is if you had to same problem with your current one. Its call the 3 strike policy. You can't just ask them for a new one you kinda have to play it off like you can't stand the fact that you keep getting messed of phone of that model. Lastly they will give you options to pick from whatever they have in stock that is the best match for what you have. At times they might not have anything and have no choice but to upgrade you to a newer one. I seen it happen a lot where they just upgrade you to a new device. When the 8300 curve came out a lot of ppl i know was calling in lying to say it was messed up just to get the gps verison 8310 which came out 4 months later. I would't advise anyone to do this unless it is a real problem with the phone. They keep records of every return that you do and can terminate your service if they feel like your trying to cheat them. The tilt two is a great phone tho hard to choose. There's some third party website that i might can direct you too if you want a tilt for a good price but you have to be able to upgrade and sign a two year contract. I got mines for free and just had to sign a contract that's it. And it at&t prorating terminations fees it wasn't big deal for me. thanks
and if i have insurance on the account, i pay $5 monthly, does they still have the fuze on stock.
Chances are that they have plenty of refurbished Fuzes in stock. It's not wise to try to scam the system just to get a new phone to have a new phone. It just makes it harder for people with legit reasons to get theirs replaced.
If you want to do a insurance claim instead of a warrant exchange they are two different things. The insurance is handled by a third party called asurion or something like that. Where warranty exchange is done by at&t themselves. If you decide to go with the insurance claim you will have to pay a $125 insurance deductible which is non-refundable. If you want to do the XBM then you wont have to pay anything as long as your phone is not water or physically damanged. If it is like stated above you WILL be charge full price for the phone they will read you a agreement of the terms and condition before they send out your phone. For both of the process above you have to send back your original device unless for the insurance its lost/stolen. Even if you have insurance and your phone is messed up you still would have to pay the $125.
and yes they more then likely have a lot of fuze in stock still. It would take at least a month or so before they will be getting the tilt 2. They will have some in stock but it would be for ppl with the tilt 2. At&t also has a policy where if its under 30 days you have to take it back to where you got it from before they will exchange it thru the mail. So it would be at least 20 days or so of the release date of the tilt 2 before at&t worries about exchanging that out for ppl with the tilt 2.
cant sweet talk em? "hey baby, lookin mighteh fine... fine as wine *wink*"
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la0xboix7o4 said:
Being a ex at&t store manager let me tell you how the XBM (exchange by mail) process works.... If you have a defective device that is within its warrant period which is 1 year from the date that you started your contract at&t will switch it out at no cost to you. The phone cannot be water damanged, or physically damanged (there pretty strict about this). I have had customer who there definition of physical damange was different from what at&t thought and they ended up getting charged full price for the phone. so be very careful. They don't usually take anything that has been dropped or have deep scratches. Basically has to look ok where they can sell it again as a refurb or something. Secondly the only way they will send you out a different device is if you had to same problem with your current one. Its call the 3 strike policy. You can't just ask them for a new one you kinda have to play it off like you can't stand the fact that you keep getting messed of phone of that model. Lastly they will give you options to pick from whatever they have in stock that is the best match for what you have. At times they might not have anything and have no choice but to upgrade you to a newer one. I seen it happen a lot where they just upgrade you to a new device. When the 8300 curve came out a lot of ppl i know was calling in lying to say it was messed up just to get the gps verison 8310 which came out 4 months later. I would't advise anyone to do this unless it is a real problem with the phone. They keep records of every return that you do and can terminate your service if they feel like your trying to cheat them. The tilt two is a great phone tho hard to choose. There's some third party website that i might can direct you too if you want a tilt for a good price but you have to be able to upgrade and sign a two year contract. I got mines for free and just had to sign a contract that's it. And it at&t prorating terminations fees it wasn't big deal for me. thanks
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My husband’s Motorola Tundra was in his pocket. The phone started to burn him while it was in his pocket. There were no incoming calls. He immediately removed his phone and set it down for about thirty minutes. He tried to power the phone up but to no avail. I called AT&T to exchange the phone since it was only about eight months old.
I was told by the Warranty Exchange department that if there were any liquid damage the warranty would be void. Upon looking at the litmus indicator I noticed there were pink speckles. I did not want to pay for a phone that was obviously defective and not abused by my husband.
Therefore, I called AT&T again and explained again that the Tundra was not exposed to water. The representative told me that nothing could be done by AT&T until my next billing cycle when the new phone would be charged to my account. I was told not to worry and go ahead and send the phone in and a Commitment Call would be made to clear up the situation on the next billing cycle if AT&T did not hear from me.
I did receive the new Tundra and returned the damaged phone. The damaged phone was returned to me indicating that the liquid damage indicator was removed. I DID NOT REMOVE THE INDICATOR! I was charged $210.
In the meantime, I called Motorola. The Motorola technician told me that the litmus paper could have been activated by a leaky battery.
I telephoned AT&T today and the $210 was reduced by half. I spoke with three levels of representatives indicating that I did not feel paying anything was acceptable by me based on the principle of this matter. Our original Motorola Tundra was only eight months old and obviously defective. I feel that AT&T is basically accusing me of being dishonest because the liquid damage indicator had pink speckles. What other alternative did I have but to send the phone in since we use it in our business. I accepted the reduction for the cost of the new Tundra with hesitation. It is not so much the money but the principle of this issue. I am a very dissatisfied customer.
They're horrible about running over people. I never understood their reasoning... I would see people get full out replacements for nothing, when they hardly ever paid their bill and had like ten charged off accounts, then on the other hand, you would have customers that had been with them ten years through the various names and such, always paid on time, they wouldn't do anything for them. Dollar is number one for AT&T, as with any company, but their practices are kind of screwy, you are at the mercy of whomever you speak to. I got lucky I got a noob. He wasn't burned out yet and I was very patient and nice to him, he genuinely wanted to help. If you get someone that's been there for years, they've been long hardened and are difficult to deal with - they just want to meet their stats and get their shift over with. Call center location can also have something to do with it, people are different in different areas. I would have customers call up, ask which call center I was located and hang up if it wasn't the one they wanted. Then again, I would have people ask which call center I was located at wanting to kill me, too... Anyway... The people don't generally don't care what's right, it depends on how you deal with them, you have to kill them with kindness, you're at their mercy, not really AT&T's. I would still fight for that full credit, too, but kill them with kindness. Customer care can credit more than collections can, and are more apt to hand it out. If you have to go through Warranty for it, that one's generally alot harder, they tend to be a pain in the arse.
I got Warranty to credit me $50 bucks today for a battery which I had to order through the site and they reimbursed me since they couldn't obtain one for me. One day soon hopefully I'll be using my Tilt 2, it sure is a purty paper weight right now.
I'm actually waiting for the Tilt 2.
I'm on the 4th FUZE, and the last time I spoke to them. They said the next time I run into an issue, they should be able to swap out the FUZE for another phone.
I'm still having the same issue with the 4th Fuze, tons of dropped calls.
I'm holding off calling because I really want the Tilt 2. From what I have been told by people on this forum, and the people at AT&T usually the excahnge group gets refurb phones in about 30 days after the release date.
Now the confusing part is... would the release date be the 8th, when the phone hit the Premiere site, or the 18th when it hit the retail channels.
I'm waiting patiently...
Well if i was at&t i wouldn't have to worry about any XBM until 20 days after the release date. I would go by the 8th one b/c if ppl who had there tilt 2 for more then 30 days and have a warranty issue with them at&t would have to switch them out since it is past the 30 day period and under the 1 yr warranty. I would wait a lil longer to be on the safe side unelss your happy with gettin another fuze.
la0xboix7o4 said:
Well if i was at&t i wouldn't have to worry about any XBM until 20 days after the release date. I would go by the 8th one b/c if ppl who had there tilt 2 for more then 30 days and have a warranty issue with them at&t would have to switch them out since it is past the 30 day period and under the 1 yr warranty. I would wait a lil longer to be on the safe side unelss your happy with gettin another fuze.
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I'm FUZE'd out.
Maybe i'll call the 10th and see if they have any TILT2 in stock.
I have had six (6) warranty exchange Fuzes over the last four months. This was for a legit warranty claim.
During my call last week the CSR suggested I get a Tilt2 instead of another Fuze.....then the CSR found out that the Tilt2 was not in stock. The CSR had no idea when the Tilt2 would be in stock and suggested calling each week on Wednesday.....why wednesday?
Anyway, A brand new Pure appeared at my door step today......I called ATT about the appearance of a new phone. Apparently, the CSR sent me the Pure as a replacement device.
I don't want this device and will be returning it for a Tilt2, when they have it in stock.
Molal said:
I have had six (6) warranty exchange Fuzes over the last four months. This was for a legit warranty claim.
During my call last week the CSR suggested I get a Tilt2 instead of another Fuze.....then the CSR found out that the Tilt2 was not in stock. The CSR had no idea when the Tilt2 would be in stock and suggested calling each week on Wednesday.....why wednesday?
Anyway, A brand new Pure appeared at my door step today......I called ATT about the appearance of a new phone. Apparently, the CSR sent me the Pure as a replacement device.
I don't want this device and will be returning it for a Tilt2, when they have it in stock.
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Have you called today (wednesday)?
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Have you called today (wednesday)?
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If your phone that you want is not in stock they will send you whatever that is close to it.
After returning my captivate for various issues 4 times, att offered me a different model refurb phone, but all of the options they offered me were very unimpressive. The CSR said they would be able to switch me out for an inspire as soon as they got refurbs in their warehouse. This was about a month and a half ago and every time I call them back it takes at least a half hour for someone to finally tell me they dont have any inspires yet. Anyone know how long it takes for them to get refurbs in stock and when I can switch for an inspire?
i'm not sure if i am getting refurbs or not through the ATT insurance, but they allowed me to switch my shattered captivate out for an inspire. Do all refurbs come in a dedicated ATT refurb general box?
The 2 Inspire's i have received from them have both been in the original packaging with everything wrapped in original packaging, all manuals, original plastic cover on the phone, etc. But, the both boxes had been opened, the sticker was torn. The refurb captivate i got from them was in a box that said "refurb" on it and didn't have original packaging and such. 90 day warranty on the captivate, 1 year warranty on the HTC from what they have told me.
So to answer you, yes, i believe there are refurb Inspires out there. Imagine how many people have switched between all the new android phones trying them all out. Those get used as refurbs too.
When did they send you the inspire for the captivate? I have not tried calling them in about a week or two. Also do you have the insurance that you pay for or was that exchange just through warranty?
i received my first inspire about a week and a half ago....second one was this past monday.
and yes, this is through the $5 insurance offered by ATT through a company called Asurion or something. Great company to deal with actually. a shattered captivate + 125 bucks is much better than paying for an early upgrade/using an upgrade/buying used
Well, as I see it, this is indicative of a good quality phone that people are happy with and keeping, for the most part.
I'm on my second inspire, but the first one went back for something rather minor, yet not proper... loose camera lens cover.
Having had a Captivate, it was a different situation altogether. There were obviously fundamental hardware defects that affected a large number of units. Random shutdowns and nearly non-functional gps, along with other inconsistencies from batch to batch.
Sent from my Inspire using XDA Premium
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After returning my captivate for various issues 4 times, att offered me a different model refurb phone, but all of the options they offered me were very unimpressive. The CSR said they would be able to switch me out for an inspire as soon as they got refurbs in their warehouse. This was about a month and a half ago and every time I call them back it takes at least a half hour for someone to finally tell me they dont have any inspires yet. Anyone know how long it takes for them to get refurbs in stock and when I can switch for an inspire?
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YAY!! It's not just me! LOL!! Sorry - I've been dealing with this same problem for YEARS with AT&T's refurbished Pieces of crap!! SO, I Feel your pain!
I just ditched my X10 for the Inspire...And had to go all the way through Retention to get it. Ended up upgrading my line and my wife's line to new phones, and only ended up paying $79 bucks for each phone (She got the Torch, since she doesn't like NOT having a keyboard) then they paid for overnight shipping and we called it good.
I've found (through dealings with them A LOT) that the easiest way to get problems handled is through their retention people...while most of them will be MORE than willing to help you, After your 4th Device exchange, you SHOULD have been eligable to get a new phone PERIOD...or at least, that's what I've gone through with them.
Good Luck though - Maybe try their retention people and see what they can do for you...Just go through all the trouble shooting BS with them, and get to a point where you tell them that you want to Cancel...They are required (by some policy) to send you to that department...THERE is where good things happen
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After returning my captivate for various issues 4 times, att offered me a different model refurb phone, but all of the options they offered me were very unimpressive. The CSR said they would be able to switch me out for an inspire as soon as they got refurbs in their warehouse. This was about a month and a half ago and every time I call them back it takes at least a half hour for someone to finally tell me they dont have any inspires yet. Anyone know how long it takes for them to get refurbs in stock and when I can switch for an inspire?
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^I don't want to burst your bubble here, but most likely a refurbished unit is going to have *something* wrong with it. Every single Inspire I've played with at AT&T stores has had something wrong with it that has annoyed me, from slightly mis-aligned screens, to the volume/rocker buttons that are too recessed, to loose/creaky sim/sd covers, so the loose/wobbly cameras. Same for the captivate - the screen will be too blue, the side rails of the phone will bow out at weird places and then there's the obvious Achilles heel with the GPS. Even the 'magical' IP4 has certain problem areas like creaky home buttons and overly sensitive volume rockers.
I think your best bet, if you want the Inspire, is to press ATT for a new one, and pick it up at the store and inspect it before you take it home. That's probably the only way you'll get out of the seemingly endless return/exchange loop you've fallen into. And make no mistake, ATT keeps track of every phone you have swapped, regardless of whether it was their fault or yours and all of that is stored in a customer index score which may or may not prevent you from receiving 'consideration' in the future as you're definitely costing them more than the average customer due to these equipment exchanges.
I am in a similar boat, having swapped the Captivate now three times. I finally have a 'decent' one, as in the three-button combo works; the screen produces natural whites, and the GPS almost works. I'll take my chances with this as ATT will not swap for an Atrix (and judging from those forums, the build quality of that device is also questionable) and it seems the Inspire has similar teething issues. Not to mention the battery life/battery door/other annoyances that would just supplant the current ones with the Captivate.
(btw, see this post for an issue I'm sure neither of us would be too happy to encounter on our nice "new" refurb'd Inspires...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032783 )
Has anyone in here ever deal with cellhub when buying ur G2X?
They have the phone on sale for $69.99 and I'm looking at a possible buy here if they r legit.
Ur input will b great appreciated.
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They are scum of the earth!
Basically I went through 2 G2X's with them. It wouldn't have been so bad where it not the fact that it took about a week to ship the phone to them and get it back and by the second one, I was worried that I may not want to keep the T-Mobile service so I just gave up and decided to buy locally. The problem was that Cellhub wanted a restocking fee for the SECOND defective phone of $25, then they charged me $10 for the pleasure of having to send the brick of a phone back, AND I had to pay for shipping($15). So dealing with that much hassle with Cellhub on a phone that is known to be defective (Come on, we all know this, the issues this phone has given me led me here) is just not worth the "savings" you'd get. I wasted $50 on literally nothing thanks to cellhub. A week later I went to a local T-Mobile store and it looked like Cellhub somehow screwed me over with Tmobile and I wasn't allowed to get the phone for the upgrade price. So if I wanted it at the store it would have cost me full price! Basically Cellhub was trying to blacklist me with T-Mobile. T-Mobile was great and we cleared it up (seriously, best Customer service for cell phones, I really hope At&t is denied to purchase them), but it soured me from ever buying from cellhub or even hinting at someone to buy it from there. If I could prevent one person from going through the hell I went through, I will be more then happy to write my story down.
I just placed my order.Let's c what kind of dirt they give me.If phone don't get shipped out today I'm cancelling my order.
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My experience has been fine. They have done everything they've said for me.
They sent me my first return w/no problems. The 2nd return, they deferred to T mobile. But he was nice about it, explaining that that is the process. He made sure I had no questions. Also made it a point to tell me to get back to them if I had any problems with the 2nd return. The credit for the free activation won't show for three months or so.
I did have to pay for next day both ways, but that was my idea and my decision. They were gonna send it 2 day. I had a loaner from T mobile that was crap and did not want to wait a week.
I'm not sorry I went through them myself. I would do it again. They are selling this phone for a good price. I always get a real person quickly, which I love. It isn't their fault I've had problems. My daughters G2X is problem free.
It must suck to be an authorized G2X DEALER right now. There sure are a lot of returns.......never mind the standard BS that is sorta inevitable. But I can personally recommend cellhub. Of course I try to be uber friendly and respectful. You definately get what you give.
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My experience has been fine. They have done everything they've said for me.
They sent me my first return w/no problems. The 2nd return, they deferred to T mobile. But he was nice about it, explaining that that is the process. He made sure I had no questions. Also made it a point to tell me to get back to them if I had any problems with the 2nd return. The credit for the free activation won't show for three months or so.
I did have to pay for next day both ways, but that was my idea and my decision. They were gonna send it 2 day. I had a loaner from T mobile that was crap and did not want to wait a week.
I'm not sorry I went through them myself. I would do it again. They are selling this phone for a good price. I always get a real person quickly, which I love. It isn't their fault I've had problems. My daughters G2X is problem free.
It must suck to be an authorized G2X DEALER right now. There sure are a lot of returns.......never mind the standard BS that is sorta inevitable. But I can personally recommend cellhub. Of course I try to be uber friendly and respectful. You definately get what you give.
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So far so good.We'll when the phone arrives.
If you get a working phone CellHub would appear to be great. But a TRUE measure of a company is how they handle returns. I had a defective Core i7 980x (a $1,000 processor mind you) and Newegg did a cross ship without charging me on the new one sent in, all I had to do was send in the defective CPU. The whole process took 2 days and I recieved a return shipping label for the defective product. THATS how you handle returns. Cellhub is a joke by comparison. A true measure of an online store is how they handle returns, not sales. Cellhub is not there for you after the sale, so I would avoid them.
Cellhub vs Newegg is not a good comparison, because Newegg offered ****ty customer service when it first started too, only until a few years ago they got a lot better in order to compete with amazon's customer service.
I bought my G2x from cellhub they are okay. I was very lucky to be one of the few to receive a non-defective unit. So hopefully you will get a non-defective device. But since G2x has so many quality control problems I would not have bought it from cellhub because if anything is wrong with it you would have a headache with the return (any online retailer that is). I would have suggested you to get it a local tmobile store because you can drive to the store and ***** at them versus an online retailer you cant really do that much.
I ordered 2 cell phones from Cellhub about 6 years ago. First issue was that I was switching carriers and porting my number. I was assured that my old phone would work until I got the phone and had it switched myself. Not so, the numbers were switched immediately before the phones shipped and my wife and I had no phone service until our phones came in over a week later. One phone was fine for 2 years until we quit using it. The other was an obvious refurb that they honored with the 1 year warranty, but I had to send it in for repair through whatever service they used. I had to send it in twice times for different issues. First was it stopped installing anything I had bought and downloaded, which I dealt with until the bluetooth stopped working. After that the screen died. Then 3 days after my warranty expired the keys quit working and I was out of luck. They wouldn't do anything about it even though it was obvious there were issues with the phone before and I had sent it in twice before for a couple weeks each time. Not that I expected that they would do anything even though it was three days, but it did guarantee I will never go back.
Hope your experience is better and that they have improved since then.
They haven't...
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Well, I knew what the return terms were when I bought them. I made sure to check the return policy. So the return shipping, while I see your point, wasn't really an issue for me.
I'm more concerned with how much of a fight it is to make the return. They exchanged the first one quickly and with no hassles.
I knew that going mail order was a bit risky. But as I said, I've been pleased with cellhub. From my experiences with them, they've been very helpful and professional.
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They are scum of the earth!
Basically I went through 2 G2X's with them. It wouldn't have been so bad where it not the fact that it took about a week to ship the phone to them and get it back and by the second one, I was worried that I may not want to keep the T-Mobile service so I just gave up and decided to buy locally. The problem was that Cellhub wanted a restocking fee for the SECOND defective phone of $25, then they charged me $10 for the pleasure of having to send the brick of a phone back, AND I had to pay for shipping($15). So dealing with that much hassle with Cellhub on a phone that is known to be defective (Come on, we all know this, the issues this phone has given me led me here) is just not worth the "savings" you'd get. I wasted $50 on literally nothing thanks to cellhub. A week later I went to a local T-Mobile store and it looked like Cellhub somehow screwed me over with Tmobile and I wasn't allowed to get the phone for the upgrade price. So if I wanted it at the store it would have cost me full price! Basically Cellhub was trying to blacklist me with T-Mobile. T-Mobile was great and we cleared it up (seriously, best Customer service for cell phones, I really hope At&t is denied to purchase them), but it soured me from ever buying from cellhub or even hinting at someone to buy it from there. If I could prevent one person from going through the hell I went through, I will be more then happy to write my story down.
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So you wanted to exchange a defective phone and Cellhub wanted to charge you $25. restocking, fee, $15.00 shipping, AND $10.00 (for what?) for a total of $50.00 for an exchange.....for a defective phone....that was still under warranty?? Boy, I'd be pissed off.
Hence my hatered of cellhub, I spent $50 on nothing. I filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau in long island against them. Cellhub is pure scum.Avoid!!!!
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All,
I would encourage you to join me in filing a formal complaint with the Attorney Generals Office within Washington State.
I have made serveral attempts to get T-Mobile to resolve the situation I am having with my G2X. I have had 3 different G2X phones which all reboot on their own.
The only solution T-Mobile can provide me is to suffer and wait for the software update or pay full price for another phone.
I don't find either solution to be satisfactory. I have escalated the issue to a Manager which didn't do any good. I also tried emailing the T-Mobile Executive Customer Service Team (of course no reply).
I filed a formal complaint this morning with the AG. I think we should all be intitled to trade the phone in for another model or be allowed to cancel our contracts.
I will let you know what comes out of this.
Lance
Tmo really said tough cookies or buy another phone? I'm having a hard time believing that. They either will offer you a replacement G2x (which you've obviously done) or after 3-4 swaps, offer you a different phone if you ask for it.
I can't picture them telling you to fork over another 500 for another phone.
Thank you. It's irresponsible to release a phone without any QC, then take months testing an update to fix the problems that should have been fixed before launch. A class action law suit may be in order if Tmo doesn't release the mythical update that will fix everything. In all honestly we have a case with the twitter feeds of tmo and lg promising an update to fix the issue show that they were knowledgeable that the phone they were shipping was defective at launch. Not to mention the ocean of forums and news articles reporting the same problem.
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GideonX, that's not true in my case. I tried my damnest to get something else after four phones. T Mo is happy to send me another G2X as the last two came, no box, battery, cover ....nothing, just a phone. I refuse to take a fifth. I was not offered anything else except another G2X, no matter how many people I talked to.
I am going to pay the contract price for the Sensation.
Tell me what I need to do to sign on the complaint. I may start one in Texas too. My problem is, I'm on my forth and they won't offer me a Sensation without me paying for it? How many bad ones do I get before it's on them? I've jumped through hoops here.
And now my daughters much vaunted fault free G2X is now getting hinky as well. Just over a month old.
And I sent an email to the execs (with addresses from consumerist.com) at T Mobile too....not one single reply. No one will answer because they are swamped with complaints I'm thinking.
yea dude tmobile and lg need to get there **** on the ball......fast!!!
Really? Wow....I'm sure the a.g. doesnt have anything important to do besides this. This is ****ing ridiculous
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Really? Wow....I'm sure the a.g. doesnt have anything important to do besides this. This is ****ing ridiculous
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You're right, Let's just have T Mobile and LG take care of the 2 out 3 bad ones. Oh yeah.
Same thing happened to me. I filed a complaint with the BB and the AG. Received a call from a higher up at Tmo 3 days later who instructed me to return my two G2X's for a full refund and removal of the 2 year extension to my contract. That was after 7 calls to them. Finally got to the highest level of tech support who told me I was too smart for them and that they knew they couldnt argue with my logic about continually replacing the device even though they were knowingly sending me another defective unit. Phones are shipping back today.
The replacement phone is the SGS 4g, which is a downgrade IMO. I just received my fifth phone, I know it's a refurbish because I contacted a rep last Thurs. and the phone was sent on Friday (new phones are on back order). I would have been within my 14 day exchange period, but when phone #3 had the heat up and shut down issue T-Mobile told me I didn't not need to exchange the phone, just the battery. Exchanged battery and it still died. Phone #4 had really, really bad screen bleed. The phone they just delivered, phone #5, has wi-fi issues and screen bleed. About to call and speak with a rep and demand either they send me a new G2X (new box, new battery, etc) or give me my money back as I was duped into letting my 14 day exchange period lapse.
I have been with T-Mobile for almost 10 years and have never complained. T-Mobile really screwed the pooch here on QC.
I have never had a problem getting what I wanted by calling 611. That's really unfortunate that they aren't helping you out but maybe you're asking the wrong questions. Also, I get the most help by staying calm and collected. Hope things get better for you.
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Sensation came out. Tada, that's the equivalent phone.
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Same thing happened to me. I filed a complaint with the BB and the AG. Received a call from a higher up at Tmo 3 days later who instructed me to return my two G2X's for a full refund and removal of the 2 year extension to my contract. That was after 7 calls to them. Finally got to the highest level of tech support who told me I was too smart for them and that they knew they couldnt argue with my logic about continually replacing the device even though they were knowingly sending me another defective unit. Phones are shipping back today.
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That sucks.They didn't offer any other options? Because for me, a big part of the equasion is how well T Mobile has treated me overall. So are you going to stay with T Mobile? How did you leave it with them? You canceled?
Even though they are more expensive I've liked how they've treated me on an individual basis, person to person. I get live people easily who are overall empathetic and knowledgable. Some may argue that. I've pissed a few off the reps off, and they still remain civil and respectful.
I think it's too bad. This is actually a huge problem for them. They have to be careful how much they do for people don't they? It could get very expensive.
Just a few more comments as I have read the replies:
1. I too was squeezed out of my remorse period by going through the phone exchange process. As everybody knows, it takes time to get a replacement, try it, send it back, get a replacement, etc....
2. Truly, the only options T-Mobile gave me after having three phones with the same issue 1. get another G2X 2. buy another model, or 3. wait for the software. All three options were not satisfactory to me as nobody can tell me when the software will happen (summer is all I get).
3. I am going to stay with T-Mobile and wait to see how the AG complaint works out. Its a big company against me.
4. Somebody made the comment about only 1 or 2 people having the issue and asked why we didn't have T-Mobile just deal with it rather than escalate. The fact is, many of these phones have problems. T-Mobile has been sending internal memos to their employees giving talking points, etc. about phone calls which come in regarding.
Thanks,
Lance
It is unfortunate that your phones are defective.
My phone has being pretty solid and I'm very happy with my purchase.
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That sucks.They didn't offer any other options? Because for me, a big part of the equasion is how well T Mobile has treated me overall. So are you going to stay with T Mobile? How did you leave it with them? You canceled?
Even though they are more expensive I've liked how they've treated me on an individual basis, person to person. I get live people easily who are overall empathetic and knowledgable. Some may argue that. I've pissed a few off the reps off, and they still remain civil and respectful.
I think it's too bad. This is actually a huge problem for them. They have to be careful how much they do for people don't they? It could get very expensive.
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I will probably wait out the SGS II on Verizon and jump ship. I have been pretty impressed with T-mo's support in general. However when I talk to a retention rep and they tell me that my battery life and freezing/locking up are part of the Android OS since the G1, thats where I draw the line. I then spoke with the their supervisor who told me that they have been using android for 5 (???) years and this is just what I should expect from Android. I should be clearing my Phone logs and txt messages daily to ensure proper functionality of the phone.
I was offered continual replacements until the problem fixed itself. When speaking with the top teir they told me that LG has to agree to what phone you receive if you are getting a comparable phone. Usually it is never a like trade. It was at that point she recommended I check out some of the online communities to see if they had a solution. She couldnt "officially" recommend it but said there might be a solution on one of them. I told her I was an active member of xda and that I already ripped the phone apart to no successful end.
Well, The phones do have issues for sure. My G2X is on the lighter side of the issue pool with only the occasional reboot and shut down that requires a battery pull. Oh and I can't forget the damn Data connection bouncing between 4G and nill like a superball on meth any time I try to actually use my Unlimited-Limited Data plan. (2GB with speed capped is not unlimited but I knew this when I paid for the service.)
I don't know what the AG can or really will do about something like this. A private attorney could possible make a case for a defective unit that was intentionally sold knowing it was defective. But proving someone KNEW something is kinda difficult. It would be fairly fruitless unless T-mo made a blanket statement and refused to support us anymore at all. The contracts are very well worded to specifically make moves like this a non-issue for T-mo.
I'm on hold trying to get a replacement battery to see if that helps, I know it wont but a second battery would be nice anyway. I love my G2X, and honestly I'd do it over again knowing what I know now because Ive had countless hours of enjoyment playing games on it, and just using it.
***Edit: And just like that they are shipping me a replacement Battery. I'm finding it hard to be upset with the T-mo support people. ***
OP, I know someone in the AG's office in Olympia. I sent them a one-pager of my experiences to add to yours. They actually have a case open against T-Mobile for unfair business practices having to do with terms disclosure so the handling of the G2X issues can easily be added to that. And you don't still have to have the phone in order to get involved. If the AG's findings are against T-Mobile there's a shot at remedy and/or financial compensation for both current and former Washington owners. And if Washington sites T-Mobile, others in other States can forward the findings to their AG which makes it easier to get the case picked up.
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Tmo really said tough cookies or buy another phone? I'm having a hard time believing that. They either will offer you a replacement G2x (which you've obviously done) or after 3-4 swaps, offer you a different phone if you ask for it.
I can't picture them telling you to fork over another 500 for another phone.
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i dont have a hard time believing that...they said the same crap to me when i went thru 6 refurbished G2 phones in a little over a month, 4 of them in about one weeks time because they were defects out of the box. they offered me various phones which none were acceptable to me, and then they decided to tell me that i can pay full retail, or contact HTC for repairs, which i thought was dumb because HTC fixed the refurbs so why would i go thru more work for the same results?
honestly, these phone makers are so worried about production they dont give a **** about quality and performance, because they know some sucker will pay full retail for the next supposed better model.
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However when I talk to a retention rep and they tell me that my battery life and freezing/locking up are part of the Android OS since the G1, thats where I draw the line. I then spoke with the their supervisor who told me that they have been using android for 5 (???) years and this is just what I should expect from Android. I should be clearing my Phone logs and txt messages daily to ensure proper functionality of the phone..
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yea thats bull****! i had a directv rep tell me it can take up to 8 MINUTES, yes minutes for an hd channel to tune in when i complained about how slow my box was. i was told in a store that the G2x requires more charging when i went to swap my battery out, i said maybe so, but in reality my G2 under 4 times the usage got me a whole days use, the G2x battery got me half a day under less use, so that makes no sense at all. i can see charging it half way thru the day with the same use as my G2.....they really think most customers are that stupid and will listen to anything their big corporate brother tells them. for the time i used android, erasing stuff never made my phone work better except on my G1 where i limited my SMS to 25 per thread, as my messaging app was always slow unless i deleted them. these reps will tell you anything just to get your ass off the phone
i remember when i was a sales rep the crap they wanted us to tell people on why a phone was laggy, or slow, etc. remember that pile of crap, the moto Q? instead of dealing with the problems they had and the complaints, i would just tell people that they were piles of crap and dont bother....instead they wanted us to say that an extended battery will resolve the lack of battery life...so someone that wants a nice thin phone cant have a nice thin phone with that battery!!! so lets move on to another device. oh, the trackwheel/pad sucks? they would tell us to tell people windows will constantly update the device to work better. year right.... well how about blackberry, its a lot smoother...thats my answer!!
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I'm on hold trying to get a replacement battery to see if that helps, I know it wont but a second battery would be nice anyway. I love my G2X, and honestly I'd do it over again knowing what I know now because Ive had countless hours of enjoyment playing games on it, and just using it.
***Edit: And just like that they are shipping me a replacement Battery. I'm finding it hard to be upset with the T-mo support people. ***
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I got my replacement battery today. So I went back to my stock backup (from CM7) and put in my new battery (read 86%) which had a "build date" of about a month after my first one.
The phone reset itself in less than 30 minutes while charging to full...