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Hi All,
there's a way to protect cwm by a pass?
LOL no
No. Its called recovery for a reason
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salas2324 said:
No. Its called recovery for a reason
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What mean? if i wont to protect with password where the strange?
AleDB said:
What mean? if i wont to protect with password where the strange?
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recovery shouldn't have a password or else you can't recovery your device if you forget password
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Actually a recovery password would be great. We were discussing this over in the Anti-theft thread. If we had something like this similar to a BIOS password it would prevent anyone from wiping your device if it's stolen. Not sure why people are acting like the OP is an idiot for asking.
If there were a password for CWM you could still get into stock recovery and do a Factory Reset if you needed to, but it would be impossible for someone to wipe your system and remove more advanced anti-theft apps.
its called recovery for a reason, c'mon hahah
I had exactly the same thought yesterday .
+1 for that idea...........what if, i compile a new recovery, i would do this for security:
1.Create an online compiler that asks for the user to enter his/her phone's imei + a unique code & password and compile a unique recovery for his/her phone.
2.After compiling, i'm would give a flashable custom signed update.zip which will be used only when resetting the password.
3.If someone who stole the phone flashed a new recovery, imei & unique code would fail and cannot use any other recovery other than the one flashed already !!
balamu96m said:
+1 for that idea...........what if, i compile a new recovery, i would do this for security:
1.Create an online compiler that asks for the user to enter his/her phone's imei + a unique code & password and compile a unique recovery for his/her phone.
2.After compiling, i'm would give a flashable custom signed update.zip which will be used only when resetting the password.
3.If someone who stole the phone flashed a new recovery, imei & unique code would fail and cannot use any other recovery other than the one flashed already !!
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If someone flash any other recovery, there is no way to protect the device - he can do everything. Anyway, it's a good idea. But instead of password I'd suggest a buttons combination. It's just less work (no need to create "recovery keyboard").
Indeed. I didn't think about that fact. Even on my phone only certain keyboard presses are recognized within recovery. Regardless, some way to protect the phone beyond what is available would be great.
cwm could integrate a keyboard password like google did with the encryption password. you do the phone presses to access, it begins to take you into recovery, then you are prompted to type in a password. same as if you were trying to access with odin.. seems like it would take a little extra effort but damn, accidents happen.
I have read a few people saying that most some phone thieves don't know what they are doing but hey, Google query: hack android phone.
There's nothing wrong with wanting to add even more security to our phones, call us paranoid.
Love the idea.. maybe with some kind of authenticator, like wow..?
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W8 for other ideas
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maybe one of the developer can implement this idea in aroma installer.
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If you require password, and don't permit adb until successfully unlocked, you're starting to get secure.
You'd also need to remove root from regular boot, or prevent adb root access, and secure the system with a lock screen.
If the device has odin or similar, don't waste your time, as anyone determined will overwrite your recovery with an adb enabled one...
AleDB said:
Hi All,
there's a way to protect cwm by a pass?
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+1 from me
pulser_g2 said:
If you require password, and don't permit adb until successfully unlocked, you're starting to get secure.
You'd also need to remove root from regular boot, or prevent adb root access, and secure the system with a lock screen.
If the device has odin or similar, don't waste your time, as anyone determined will overwrite your recovery with an adb enabled one...
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i went on the google group android security and some one replied with a possible solution:
Code:
You'll have to implement this in the bootloader, which in most cases is
closed source, so roughly you'll have to:
- find the binary blob of the bootloader, probably in a factory image or
dump it from the device
- find the base address of the bootloader blob and disassemble it
properly (use IDA pro)
- find a place -big enough- where you can inject your own code for the
password prompt
- find a place in the early stages of device boot where you can place a
jump instruction and branch to your code, this should be right after the
bootloader code detects if the fastboot or odin button combinations are
pressed.
I'll suggest to write your code in C unless you are an arm assembly
guru, and try to make it the smallest possible... if the password is
correct, then it should jump back to the place right after where the
execution was interrupted with your initial jump and continue with the
normal bootloader process.
Also, I wouldn't do the tests by flashing your patched bootloader
directly into the phone (replacing the phone's stock bootloader), as a
small mistake in your patches can totally brick the device. To properly
test your patches, you'll need to find a way to place the bootloader in
RAM (from Android) and jump into it, and to do this you'll need to
disable interrupts, invalidate CPU caches, reset MMU, and continue
execution from physical address space where you've copied the bootloader
in RAM, this will simulate a reboot from bootloader but using your
patched one in RAM instead of the stock one in NAND, not an easy task I
guess... but if you have some progress, let us know :D
Cheers,
like with the encryption some script is ran that requires the password to be put in. since the code is already available could there be a way to just use that script and have detect if booting into recovery or odin?
password would be welcome in case my device were stolen, so anyone could make a fresh install independent of the ke or faceunlock, trackers, and everything i have
+1 for the idea... reason:
I know someone who's phone was factory reset by the police... yes, I live in Australia and what was done was illegal and he is taking legal action but once it's done, that's it, you lost everything on the device.
Password protecting recovery is a way to prevent those with enough know how to trigger a reset when you have no legal recourse not to hand over your belongings to another party on the street.
I know this is an edge case but one that has a precedent.
So I think I am screwed here but was wondering if anyone has run into similar issue. I was running SlimKat and had the data encrypted and I used BootUnlocker to relock the bootloader after I flashed TWRP a few months back. Been working fine for a couple weeks then yesterday I pull my phone out my pocket and it looks like it factory reset prompting to input all my info. So I reboot the phone thinking could be fluke and it doesnt prompt me for decyption password and again boots to setup screen. If you do login you cannot access the internal storage and there is no data connection. So I rebooted into TWRP and it prompts for decryption password only its not working. If I put in wrong password it comes back immediately that it failed. If I try correct password it tries for 30 - 45 seconds then comes back with failed. So tried downloading factory image and flash with fasboot but was complaining about bootloader locked. So I issued fastboot oem unlock and choose yes the screen switches to unlocked but doesnt wipe anything try to flash again and I get FAILED flash write failure. When I reboot to the bootloader it shows as locked again. I think my flash took a crap. Anyone have any ideas?
I bought my N5 used....and guess what, it was encrypted. And i didn't know it.
Well after a series of unfortunate events, LOL, I found this.....it worked for me when I thought my brand new (new to me) N5 was bricked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513937
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since its been possible to encrypt with android, it has cause everyone issues, eventually. with as many people that ive known that have encrypted, every single one of them has had issues, eventually. eventually because it usually doesnt happen right away, but somewhere down the line. i constantly tell people not to encrypt, that they will have an issue later.
sounds like you will be flashing the factory img at some point.
kj2112 said:
I bought my N5 used....and guess what, it was encrypted. And i didn't know it.
Well after a series of unfortunate events, LOL, I found this.....it worked for me when I thought my brand new (new to me) N5 was bricked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513937
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Tried that doesnt work due to the locked boot loader. Issuing fasboot oem unlock doesn't actually unlock it.
simms22 said:
since its been possible to encrypt with android, it has cause everyone issues, eventually. with as many people that ive known that have encrypted, every single one of them has had issues, eventually. eventually because it usually doesnt happen right away, but somewhere down the line. i constantly tell people not to encrypt, that they will have an issue later.
sounds like you will be flashing the factory img at some point.
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Yea, I've been trying to flash a factory img but I can't due to the locked bootloader and issuing fasboot oem unlock won't unlock it.
what do you mean doesnt unlock it?
prestonr83 said:
Yea, I've been trying to flash a factory img but I can't due to the locked bootloader and issuing fasboot oem unlock won't unlock it.
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very odd!
youre device is seen by fastboot(not adb)?
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Tried that doesnt work due to the locked boot loader. Issuing fasboot oem unlock doesn't actually unlock it.
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That's a good point.
I'm afraid that if you cant flash the stock image, and you can't unlock the bootloader to try other methods....you may be at an impass.
You need to either get the stock image back on. Or unlock the bootloader, Then try my link. Not sure what else can be done here.
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Oh....and again.....you may have driver issues on the pc, and that's why fastboot isn't seeing the phone. That is the first thing that needs to be corrected.
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Zepius said:
what do you mean doesnt unlock it?
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I mean i put it in fastboot issue fastboot oem unlock it prompts me on the phone to choose yes or no. I choose yes it then immediately goes back to fastboot screen and shows unlocked. However when trying to flash anything it fails and upon rebooting back into fastboot it again shows as locked.
Your emmc is dead. RMA it
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simms22 said:
very odd!
youre device is seen by fastboot(not adb)?
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yes fastboot is reading the phone. but issuing fastboot oem unlock doesn't actually unlock it. I tried fastboot boot recovery.img to get into stock recovery to see if it would let me do factory reset however after booting into stock recovery I am unable to get the menu to pop up to allow me to factory reset.
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yes fastboot is reading the phone. but issuing fastboot oem unlock doesn't actually unlock it. I tried fastboot boot recovery.img to get into stock recovery to see if it would let me do factory reset however after booting into stock recovery I am unable to get the menu to pop up to allow me to factory reset.
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have you tried flashing clockworkmod recovery and factory resetting it there?
simms22 said:
since its been possible to encrypt with android, it has cause everyone issues, eventually. with as many people that ive known that have encrypted, every single one of them has had issues, eventually. eventually because it usually doesnt happen right away, but somewhere down the line. i constantly tell people not to encrypt, that they will have an issue later.
sounds like you will be flashing the factory img at some point.
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Advice I would really have to disagree with as it is a built in security measure; telling people to avoid using proven security methods is sketchy in itself. I had my Nexus 4 encrypted for the last 4 months and had never had any issues. What issues are you talking about?
Encryption slows the device down... We all know that. Also, if by chance someone forgets their pw (yes... Seen it happen plenty) you lose al your stuff to get back in.
Anyway, to each their own... But I'm not important enough to worry about what's on my phone getting into the wrong hands. ?
So guys I just had my Nexus 5 stolen at the gym a couple of days ago, I'm very furious about it... I'm unable to track the device with Android Device Manager because the device was dead at the time it had been stolen and probably hasn't been turned on since.
As I imagine the thief will probably fastboot the phone and erase everything, before ever turning it on, or selling it.
My question is, is there not a way to put a startup password on the phone to prevent bootloader/download mode/adb/fastboot access to the phone?
I am also very upset because I called into Google, and there is absolutely no way to have the phones Serial/IMEI "flagged" or "blocked" with Google. Which would be technically such a simple system to implement.
This means that all those people who have had their Nexus 5's stolen, the device can just be re-registered with another Google account at a later date and nobody will blink an eye.
Views? Suggestions?
Thanks
Wow that sucks you can encrypt your phone that requires a password to startup you may have to have a password to enter fastboot if you encrypt it not sure never done it
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Call your carrier to have the IMEI blacklisted. Google can not do this. It's your carrier's job to blacklist.
black listing the IMEI won't prevent somebody from re-registering that device with another Google account though. As it seem Google doesn't track or flag stolen Serial/IMEI.
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THE_KINGDOM said:
blacDoes encrypting the phone ask for a password at startup?
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Yes.
THE_KINGDOM said:
black listing the IMEI won't prevent somebody from re-registering that device with another Google account though. As it seem Google doesn't track or flag stolen Serial/IMEI.
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no, but it will prevent the thief from using it on any US or Canadian carrier.
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black listing the IMEI won't prevent somebody from re-registering that device with another Google account though. As it seem Google doesn't track or flag stolen Serial/IMEI.
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Yes.
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can still flash the factory img in the bootloader and not worry about the encryption. also, every single person ive known that has encrypted, eventually(weeks/months) got locked out of their own phones eventually because it wouldnt except a password, and had to flash the factory img.
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no, but it will prevent the thief from using it on any US or Canadian carrier.
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can still flash the factory img in the bootloader and not worry about the encryption. also, every single person ive known that has encrypted, eventually(weeks/months) got locked out of their own phones eventually because it wouldnt except a password, and had to flash the factory img.
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Right but the whole point of encrypting is to protect the data not the device. So if a thief has to wipe the device to get rid of the encryption then he won't be able to access the data. It's gone.
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Right but the whole point of encrypting is to protect the data not the device. So if a thief has to wipe the device to get rid of the encryption then he won't be able to access the data. It's gone.
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no, its not gone. its relatively easy to recover the data, even after a factory reset, if the thief wanted to. unless the data is written over.
There is an app here on XDA as well as the play store called "bootunlocker" that allows you to lock and unlock your bootloader. Newer versions of Trickster MOD also do this. This way, if someone finds your phone and fastboot OEM unlocks it, it will wipe everything. The only thing we need to do at this point is secure the recovery. As no one seems to think a password protected recovery is necessary as no one has made one, you would have to flash the stock recovery.
If you need to make a nandroid then you would need to unlock and flash custom. This is the only way I can think of to fully ensure data gets wiped in the event someone really knows what they're doing. I might go this route, at least for a little bit to try it out
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There is an app here on XDA as well as the play store called "bootunlocker" that allows you to lock and unlock your bootloader. Newer versions of Trickster MOD also do this. This way, if someone finds your phone and fastboot OEM unlocks it, it will wipe everything. The only thing we need to do at this point is secure the recovery. As no one seems to think a password protected recovery is necessary as no one has made one, you would have to flash the stock recovery.
If you need to make a nandroid then you would need to unlock and flash custom. This is the only way I can think of to fully ensure data gets wiped in the event someone really knows what they're doing. I might go this route, at least for a little bit to try it out
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wiping isnt a solution, as the wiped data is easily recoverable. and password protection for a recovery exists as well, twrp has it. and it also wont help as all you would have to do is flash another recovery via fastboot.
btw, heres a recent article about recovering data from a wiped phone http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/8/5881573/test-shows-data-can-be-recovered-from-wiped-android-phones
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no, its not gone. its relatively easy to recover the data, even after a factory reset, if the thief wanted to. unless the data is written over.
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Fairly easy as in yes, I could do it. Fairly easy as in a random thief on the street, probably too much trouble and effort.
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wiping isnt a solution, as the wiped data is easily recoverable. and password protection for a recovery exists as well, twrp has it. and it also wont help as all you would have to do is flash another recovery via fastboot.
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That's why the boatloader is locked. Yep, TWRP implemented Philz recovery lock.
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rootSU said:
That's why the boatloader is locked. Yep, TWRP implemented Philz recovery lock.
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Haven't tried it, but what happens if you just flash another recovery?
Lethargy said:
Haven't tried it, but what happens if you just flash another recovery?
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How could you flash another recovery?
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rootSU said:
How could you flash another recovery?
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If your bootloader wasn't locked lol
Lethargy said:
If your bootloader wasn't locked lol
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Obviously recovery lock is pointless if either android or bootloader is unlocked.
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I say keep trying to locate the device with the Android Device Manager. The thief might not have charged it yet, or even won't at all. Might not be charged until someone buys it. Keep trying, and good luck.
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Fairly easy as in yes, I could do it. Fairly easy as in a random thief on the street, probably too much trouble and effort.
That's why the boatloader is locked. Yep, TWRP implemented Philz recovery lock.
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the average theif, i absolutely agree. they want to steal the device and collect money for it. but if someone is specifically looking for your data, now that doesnt sound like the average thief, thats who i would want to keep away.
bootloader locked, then unlocked, back to that data being recoverable, not by your average thief.
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the average theif, i absolutely agree. they want to steal the device and collect money for it. but if someone is specifically looking for your data, now that doesnt sound like the average thief, thats who i would want to keep away.
bootloader locked, then unlocked, back to that data being recoverable, not by your average thief.
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As I've said to you in another thread, there's no protection against that and that's the same with any file system.
Working on national security issues? Don't save data on your phone.
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rootSU said:
As I've said to you in another thread, there's no protection against that and that's the same with any file system.
Working on national security issues? Don't save data on your phone.
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lmao!
whats funny is that either we misunderstood each other, or a penguin was just spotted in the sahara desert(lol), because what you said is what i keep trying to say, theres no real protection. the best protection is that tbe average person doesnt have enough knowledge, patience, time to go after your data on a serious level. but those that are specifically targeting you for your data, those are who you should fear, as the data can be gotten to, if they really want to get it.
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if they really want to get it
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It's all in the "if"
In my opinion the only worth protecting against would be the sneaky little brother or sister.
About 4 weeks ago my phone spontaneously rebooted itself. Once it did I lost all (including the internal SD card) data. So basically a hard factory reset. Additionally TWRP and the recovery was borked. After much struggling I managed to get adb to put TWRP back. But now. Every necessary file system is effectively read only. (I can't mount them in
TWRP at all and when in the phone via ADB. no love) I say effectively, because although it lists it in mount as being rw. I can't even do a simple touch. nothing writes. I'm still rooted, I still have the ability to configure (as in initial setup) however if you restart the phone, all is lost, and you need to reconfigure.
Any suggestions recommendations or sympathy would be appreciated. The one thing I do see is that on the ext4 file systems (which are the ones that are effectively read only) there is an error with the journal that normally is fixed by deleting the journal and trying again. Because of this I can't re-install the OS etc. Thanks again for allowing me to whimper. Sucks that it did this 2 months before the 6.... I had to bite the bullet and replace. LG and Google both say it sucks to be me. :crying:
Backup your files. Fastboot flash userdata.img
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Backup your files. Fastboot flash userdata.img
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yeah, i tried that and it keeps giving me errors related to not being able to write to the file system because the bootloader is locked. Additional. the bootloader relocked, if I unlock it, it unlocks in word but the restart to bootloader shows it is again locked. Thanks for the help though. any idea appreciated.
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yeah, i tried that and it keeps giving me errors related to not being able to write to the file system because the bootloader is locked. Additional. the bootloader relocked, if I unlock it, it unlocks in word but the restart to bootloader shows it is again locked. Thanks for the help though. any idea appreciated.
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Your NAND is fried. Device needs sending for repair
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Hi
Couldn't find any thread about it. So posting it
I red on official website that I might loose some functionalities "You may lose some key functions like telephone, radio, and audio playback.".
Can anyone put some light on what I might loose as per this? (I know data will be lost and etc but what about this line pls?
Nothing , they are just pretending . only ur warranty voids
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Sorry for posting thread in wrong section.
As far as I know you still get OTA updates as well, correct? Assuming unlocked bootloader and stock operating system.
jitin02 said:
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Couldn't find any thread about it. So posting it
I red on official website that I might loose some functionalities "You may lose some key functions like telephone, radio, and audio playback.".
Can anyone put some light on what I might loose as per this? (I know data will be lost and etc but what about this line pls?
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No data is lost for unlocking bootloader.... Believe me i have unloacked it and flashed CM rom and its working better than before..
shashidhar941997 said:
No data is lost for unlocking bootloader.... Believe me i have unloacked it and flashed CM rom and its working better than before..
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Of course data is lost... everything on the phone is wiped clean, it is impossible at present to unlock the G3 without wiping out all user data.
To the OP, you do not lose any functionality by unlocking alone, everything will work EXACTLY as before as long as the only thing you do is unlock... that being said, if you change anything, such as adding root access, flashing Xposed, installing a custom recovery, that changes the device so it could potentially cause an issue outside of Motorola's control or outside of their supported practices. For example, you will not be able to receive OTA updates if you have modified the /system partition, the OTA system will see that that the partition has been mounted R/W and will not offer further OTA's, but you can still sideload them manually. If you install a custom recovery and nothing else, you may be offered an OTA, but it will fail since it requires stock recovery.
Basically, if you are careful and willing to do a little research and go beyond the "stock" experience, you will have to do a few things manually, and unlocking is the beginning of that process. Unlocking just for the sake of doing it and not continuing is a waste of time.
acejavelin said:
Of course data is lost... everything on the phone is wiped clean, it is impossible at present to unlock the G3 without wiping out all user data.
To the OP, you do not lose any functionality by unlocking alone, everything will work EXACTLY as before as long as the only thing you do is unlock... that being said, if you change anything, such as adding root access, flashing Xposed, installing a custom recovery, that changes the device so it could potentially cause an issue outside of Motorola's control or outside of their supported practices. For example, you will not be able to receive OTA updates if you have modified the /system partition, the OTA system will see that that the partition has been mounted R/W and will not offer further OTA's, but you can still sideload them manually. If you install a custom recovery and nothing else, you may be offered an OTA, but it will fail since it requires stock recovery.
Basically, if you are careful and willing to do a little research and go beyond the "stock" experience, you will have to do a few things manually, and unlocking is the beginning of that process. Unlocking just for the sake of doing it and not continuing is a waste of time.
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So basically it's like my oneplus one... The ota thing. Who cares .
And yes I was thinking of rooting, xposedify, twrp .......
Tks fr info ..... But another of my worry is locking bl. Acc. To what I red is you can't lock it properly. As my devic is 1 month old (not even 1) I don't want to risk it
jitin02 said:
So basically it's like my oneplus one... The ota thing. Who cares .
And yes I was thinking of rooting, xposedify, twrp .......
Tks fr info ..... But another of my worry is locking bl. Acc. To what I red is you can't lock it properly. As my devic is 1 month old (not even 1) I don't want to risk it
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The bootloader cannot be relocked... there is a procedure to appear locked, but it you can never actually undo the unlock procedure... One thing to keep in mind is that when you unlock you lose your warranty, but it is not based on whether your device shows it's locked or not, the minute you accept the T&C on Motorola's site and get the unlock token, your warranty is gone, it doesn't even matter if you actually unlock the device or not.
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The bootloader cannot be relocked... there is a procedure to appear locked, but it you can never actually undo the unlock procedure... One thing to keep in mind is that when you unlock you lose your warranty, but it is not based on whether your device shows it's locked or not, the minute you accept the T&C on Motorola's site and get the unlock token, your warranty is gone, it doesn't even matter if you actually unlock the device or not.
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Them I m not unlocking. Lol
shashidhar941997 said:
No data is lost for unlocking bootloader.... Believe me i have unloacked it and flashed CM rom and its working better than before..
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better than before means do u notice quick battery darning i also unlocked nd CM 12.1 excluding battery it better than before
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Of course data is lost... everything on the phone is wiped clean, it is impossible at present to unlock the G3 without wiping out all user data.
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Is the SD Card safe or should that be removed prior to unlocking bootloader?
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Is the SD Card safe or should that be removed prior to unlocking bootloader?
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I would remove it if you want to keep it setup as is... It does a factory reset which will wipe the SD card.
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Is the SD Card safe or should that be removed prior to unlocking bootloader?
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It will wipe SD card.
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I would remove it if you want to keep it setup as is... It does a factory reset which will wipe the SD card.
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It will wipe SD card.
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It did not wipe mine. It only formats the internal partitions. Most phones you have to specify if you want the SD formatted as well.
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It did not wipe mine. It only formats the internal partitions. Most phones you have to specify if you want the SD formatted as well.
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Unlocking the bootloader should wipe all user partitions, including SD card, the bootloader unlock factory reset is a complete wipe, unless something has changed. You don't get an option of what to erase when unlocking the bootloader.
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acejavelin said:
Unlocking the bootloader should wipe all user partitions, including SD card, the bootloader unlock factory reset is a complete wipe, unless something has changed. You don't get an option of what to erase when unlocking the bootloader.
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I know there's no option. I've just never seen a phone that wipes SD by default, including this one. Usually wiping user data consists of the /data partition. But if you're more comfortable pulling the SD out, better safe than sorry...
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quakeaz said:
I know there's no option. I've just never seen a phone that wipes SD by default, including this one.
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Hmm... For a normal factory reset I would agree, for bootloader unlock reset it should wipe it. What's the point of the security feature of wiping the device when bootloader unlock occurs if it leaves a major security hole by not wiping the SD card?
I can't speak from experience on this, I removed mine as a precautionary measure because back in the older HTC days of Gingerbread/Jellybean, there were a few cases where the SD card would be trashed when unlocking the bootloader.
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Neither unlocking the bootloader nor a factory reset do ANYTHING LIKE wiping your phone. Neither would either make any sense at all.
You are not supposed be able to unlock the bootloader so what sort of software do you think could be included to detect or stop it happening? Samsung KNOX comes to mind but that ain't Moto.
Factory resets remove apps, call logs, contacts, and anything else on the internal SD. Stuff that is on the external SD is not affected, only the Data and the Cache partitions.
I unlocked my bootloader but that didn't prevent me from receiving the MM Ota update two days ago. So, unlocking void only your warranty, nothing else. It will for sure wipe your phone's data.
There are a number of reasons for unlocking Bootloader. Especially for those that cannot or do not want to return phone to manufacturer.
(1) Android can become corrupt at any time. It can happen randomly. Without an unlocked Bootloader, you may no longer be able to load Android or access your files. With a custom recovery - you still have ADB and root access to your files. Also in the event that factory firmware images do not work, you now have the option of flashing a custom ROM.
(2) Lost / accidentally deleted photos. Without an unlocked Bootloader and root access, your options are very limited. If you have root access, there are apps that can recover deleted photos. You also have the possibility of making a backup image of internal storage and transferring that to PC for use with Data recovery software.
(3) You need an unlocked Bootloader to flash a custom Kernel / ROM. These can provide better performance, improved battery-life, a greater range of features and in some cases, improved app compatibility.
(4) This one may be less of an issue, but worth considering. Having an unlocked Bootloader can get you out of a situation where phone is locked due to 'Device Protection.'
Related: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...ne-you-might-trip-a-72-hour-security-lockout/
lost101 said:
(4) This one may be less of an issue, but worth considering. Having an unlocked Bootloader can get you out of a situation where phone is locked due to 'Device Protection.'
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Though you also have to consider the other side of that medal.
With a locked bootloader and device protection active, the phone is useless to everyone except yourself.
If the phone is lost this *might* increase the chance that it's being returned to you.
And if it's stolen you at least have the satisfaction that the thief can only use it as a paperweight.
If the bootloader is unlocked, whoever found or stole the phone can overcome the device protection and can use or sell the phone...