[Q] Broken Antenna ? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting
So I've dropped my Nexus 5 twice on concrete by accident. The first time it cracked the camera glass and the second time, half of the back cover clips popped off but I just pushed them back in. So in my attempt to DIY fix the cracked camera glass and replace it, I tried popping off the back cover (with proper plastic tools). But I couldn't get the clip under the SIM tray and the volume rockers so I gave up. But now, recently I can't get any signal when I'm inside a building and the signal when I'm outside fluctuates from full bar + LTE to no service to emergency calls only. I thought it might have been my SIM card so I went to T-Mobile to get another SIM which worked fine for like 10 minutes until the same problem came up again. So now I'm thinking could I have damaged the SIM reader in the phone or an antenna?
crazykidguy said:
So I've dropped my Nexus 5 twice on concrete by accident. The first time it cracked the camera glass and the second time, half of the back cover clips popped off but I just pushed them back in. So in my attempt to DIY fix the cracked camera glass and replace it, I tried popping off the back cover (with proper plastic tools). But I couldn't get the clip under the SIM tray and the volume rockers so I gave up. But now, recently I can't get any signal when I'm inside a building and the signal when I'm outside fluctuates from full bar + LTE to no service to emergency calls only. I thought it might have been my SIM card so I went to T-Mobile to get another SIM which worked fine for like 10 minutes until the same problem came up again. So now I'm thinking could I have damaged the SIM reader in the phone or an antenna?
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More than likely the back cover is no longer making good contact with the body of the phone. Try applying slight pressure at the back on the top third of the phone and see if that helps.
Did you solve this issue? It sounds similar to a problem I'm currently experiencing.
Thanks,
Will
Nexus 5 loss of ntework signal
wch93 said:
Did you solve this issue? It sounds similar to a problem I'm currently experiencing.
Thanks,
Will
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I have lost my network signal after I removed the back to improve the GPS function. It is not existing or very weak.
Has anyone a clue how to fix this?
Arno
ZeilerNed27 said:
I have lost my network signal after I removed the back to improve the GPS function. It is not existing or very weak.
Has anyone a clue how to fix this?
Arno
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I have the same problem. A fix to this would be very helpful. My phone is now almost permanently stuck at H instead of LTE. When I do see LTE, it's one or two bars where it used to be full bars.
I'm not alone... Anyone can help us?
I found out what my problem was. While opening up the case, I must have slid my tool too far in. It actually got in the same spot as the antenna connection on the top right side, right above the battery. When I applied pressure to open the case, it unhooked the antenna. Re-opening the case and using some tweezers, I was able to re-position the wire and snap it back on like a button. Restored all of my connection.
I've tried, but don't work
Comrade1809 said:
I found out what my problem was. While opening up the case, I must have slid my tool too far in. It actually got in the same spot as the antenna connection on the top right side, right above the battery. When I applied pressure to open the case, it unhooked the antenna. Re-opening the case and using some tweezers, I was able to re-position the wire and snap it back on like a button. Restored all of my connection.
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did u remove the speaker module to fix this issue?
ajaxcbcb said:
did u remove the speaker module to fix this issue?
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I didn't have to remove the speaker module. I just had to reconnect the cable on the right back into it's slot. That's what got disconnected when I opened up the back.
Antenna
Comrade1809 said:
I didn't have to remove the speaker module. I just had to reconnect the cable on the right back into it's slot. That's what got disconnected when I opened up the back.
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is there a cable?? from what i know the silver thing is the antenna
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What? No.... My situation had nothing to do at all with the speaker or any other portion of the phone aside from the antenna wire.
If you open up the back of the phone, on the right side of the battery, there is a small wire that runs along there and connects just to the right top side of where the battery ends. It is covered by a small black plastic piece that is supposed to stop it from coming off. I accidentally disconnected that wire with the tool I used to open the back of the phone. After reconnecting it to it's proper place, my signal came back without further issues.
I attached a picture with a red arrow pointing to where the antenna is connected. If it's loose, I would suggest reconnecting it and checking your signal again.
Comrade1809 said:
I didn't have to remove the speaker module. I just had to reconnect the cable on the right back into it's slot. That's what got disconnected when I opened up the back.
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oh thanks mate. finally resolved the problem. seems the cable is actually kinda loose. after getting it hook up. signal is back and blazing. thanks
Broken black antenna cable
Comrade1809 said:
What? No.... My situation had nothing to do at all with the speaker or any other portion of the phone aside from the antenna wire.
If you open up the back of the phone, on the right side of the battery, there is a small wire that runs along there and connects just to the right top side of where the battery ends. It is covered by a small black plastic piece that is supposed to stop it from coming off. I accidentally disconnected that wire with the tool I used to open the back of the phone. After reconnecting it to it's proper place, my signal came back without further issues.
I attached a picture with a red arrow pointing to where the antenna is connected. If it's loose, I would suggest reconnecting it and checking your signal again.
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my antenna clip broke off the main logic board. is there any way of fixing this. I get no service now
luv2vexx said:
my antenna clip broke off the main logic board. is there any way of fixing this. I get no service now
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If you're really good at soldering you could give it a try. Otherwise I'd try and play the warranty card. I don't think there's a replacement part just for that, like there is one for the speaker or the camera. I may be wrong though.
similar problem
I bought a used Nexus 5 which suffered water damage as I later found out. The seller told me, that he used the phone until I bought it. Now when I want to use the phone with my sim, which is a new one, I have a very weak signal. I lose it most of the time. When I use the phone with a sim from another carrier (the same like the seller used) it's working fine. The phone also works with a third carrier but not with the one I want to use. There is also another phenomenon: when I take of the back cover, the signal becomes much stronger, still not good but much better. The sim is ok, because I use it now with my old phone and have no problems with the connection. Has anyone an idea where the problem could be?
I’m thankful for any help.
Excellent signal after reconnecting antenna
Thanks for the tip! I dropped my phone some weeks ago and since than I got bad reception, usually only EDGE and only outdoors but not really reliable. I had the chance to test my sim card in my friend's phone and with that I got excellent connection (40Mbps). I tryed factory reset but it did not help.
Solution:
After removing the plastic cover above the battery with a phillips #00 screwdriver I found that the antennas were not properly connected (the black and the white cables). I snapped them back to place, and after that my phone was able to connect to LTE.
I am super interested in this topic. I actually have a nexus 5(which has since been replaced by another nexus 5) that got some water damage on it from being in my clothes when they were hosed down. everything on the phone works, wifi, gps, speakers etc except cell signal. I get it sometimes for barely a second and then it is gone again. My thinking here is that my antenna is shot.
Anyone ever find out if this is a part that can be replaced? Would love to have two working nexus 5's just in case I need one as a back up or something.
Oh well! a bit over a year ago I stopped getting LTE and H from my carrier, tried everything and nothing worked, I guessed it was a factory defect and surrendered because I imported the device and couldn't send it thru warranty. I tried another carrier SIM and it did get at least H (no LTE however) so I switched to that carrier cause i wasnt gonna live with EDGE only, and I've been living like that for 14 months until now that I stumbled upon this thread, opened my N5, found out that same right cable antenna was not well connected, put it back where it belongs, now im getting full LTE, and I wanna kill myself! If I had noticed this before I wouldn't have had to go thru the mess of switching carriers and having to pay a more expensive plan! LMAO either way THANKS! Finally back on LTE !!!
Could you please tell how this antenna looks like? A photo of that would help me to fix my issue,. I have dropped my phone and I get as no service with signal strength as 0. Did u face this before u fixed ur antenna?
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Question Joying Android 10 - unreliable GPS
Hi all, I just bought a new Joying 9" headunit with Android 10. I'm finding the GPS is very unreliable. It will fix on satellites but then quickly lose connection. It will then continually reconnect/disconnect. It's quite obvious when using my mapping apps that it's lost connection. The GPS receiver is mounted just under the dashboard and there is no metal above it. Is there a way to increase the connection reliability? I have downloaded the GPS Locker app but it loses connection but still 'locked'. I've read some GPS receivers need a metal sheet underneath to act as a ground plane. Is this necessary?
To temporarily get around this problem I installed GPS Tether on both my phone (Moto G9+) and the Joying HU. This bypasses the Joying GPS and uses my phone GPS which is monumentally more accurate and stable then the Joying GPS until I work out the problem.
TheOtherLeft said: Hi all, I just bought a new Joying 9" headunit with Android 10. I'm finding the GPS is very unreliable. It will fix on satellites but then quickly lose connection. It will then continually reconnect/disconnect. It's quite obvious when using my mapping apps that it's lost connection. The GPS receiver is mounted just under the dashboard and there is no metal above it. Is there a way to increase the connection reliability? I have downloaded the GPS Locker app but it loses connection but still 'locked'. I've read some GPS receivers need a metal sheet underneath to act as a ground plane. Is this necessary? Click to expand... Click to collapse Last time that happened to me it turned out that I didn't have the antenna screwed onto the connector tight enough.
I just checked the GPS connectors and it was a bit loose. I suspect it wasn't grounding on the metal case very well. I tightened them and took it for a drive. The reliability has increased and when the car is stationary it gets a solid signal but when driving still loses GPS signal. Any ideas?
TheOtherLeft said: I just checked the GPS connectors and it was a bit loose. I suspect it wasn't grounding on the metal case very well. I tightened them and took it for a drive. The reliability has increased and when the car is stationary it gets a solid signal but when driving still loses GPS signal. Any ideas? Click to expand... Click to collapse Where on the vehicle is your gps antenna located? It should be located at the highest point of the vehicle, with no metal objects anywhere in its path to the sky.
I've had a play with the location of the GPS. I can say the quality of the Joying supplied GPS is very poor as the cable is very susceptible to EMI. Also even if the cable is coiled up then it loses reception. I'm not sure if this a problem with all GPS receivers but the sensitivity is quite poor as well, because if the receiver is outside of the car then it gets reception even in the garage, however if the gps is placed on top of the dashboard then it loses reception.
Hi, does your car have a windscreen with metal coating to prevent warming up the interior? This can cause your problem, or your GPS is faulty. Placing your GPS near a side window could be a solution. I have also a Joying with android 10 and no issue at all with GPS.
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TheOtherLeft said: The GPS wouldn't work when mounted just underneath the dash. There was only plastic above it, not metal. I then mounted it sitting on top of the dash - middle, furthest forward. Now it works very well. Being a black GPS sitting on a black dash doesn't look too bad but it is noticeable. I suspect the quality of the GPS from Joying is very poor. There are no brand markings on it so it's probably the cheapest they could source. I made sure the cable to the GPS was uncoiled as this seems to affect it as well. Click to expand... Click to collapse Most OEM units have GPS receiver mounted inside dash, in centre, under plastic. Toyota Blade, Prius, Lexus etc.
TheOtherLeft said: The GPS wouldn't work when mounted just underneath the dash. There was only plastic above it, not metal. I then mounted it sitting on top of the dash - middle, furthest forward. Now it works very well. Being a black GPS sitting on a black dash doesn't look too bad but it is noticeable. I suspect the quality of the GPS from Joying is very poor. There are no brand markings on it so it's probably the cheapest they could source. I made sure the cable to the GPS was uncoiled as this seems to affect it as well. Click to expand... Click to collapse I think the GPS (antenna) quality is all the same across these Chinese units. It's a matter of making sure your connections are secure and making contact.... and a matter of antenna placement. I have a jeep with a changeable top (hard top and soft top). The OEM antenna placement is the same for all jeeps (on top of the center roll bar). The hard top is all fiberglass and I have not issues at all with the gps. The soft top however sometimes presents some minor issues because of a metal bar in the top which runs pretty near to the antenna.
Is it normal for the GPS to freak out when I'm under a bridge or in a tunnel? This problem happens a lot and gives me anxiety when I'm going to a new place.
Bob_Sanders said: I think the GPS (antenna) quality is all the same across these Chinese units. It's a matter of making sure your connections are secure and making contact.... and a matter of antenna placement. I have a jeep with a changeable top (hard top and soft top). The OEM antenna placement is the same for all jeeps (on top of the center roll bar). The hard top is all fiberglass and I have not issues at all with the gps. The soft top however sometimes presents some minor issues because of a metal bar in the top which runs pretty near to the antenna. Click to expand... Click to collapse Funny enough I have mine installed at the center top of the metal windshield surround (under that plastic piece above rearview mirror) in my JK and have not had any issues. But I like your idea better. I think I'll move it to your placement.
I bought one (JY-TQ186N4G) recently for my 2016 RAV4. I also have the same GPS problem. I move the GPS antenna to different places and make sure the connection is secure. But it doesn't help. Sometimes I have a signal and overtime it will lose the signal. I also have another problem which is the 4g LTE. The unit shows the 4G icon but Google chrome/youtube all said I am offline. Try to edit the APN but they are all greyed out, and there is no '+' anywhere for me to add a new APN. Looks like the carrier doesn't want anyone to change the APN. So I am pretty stuck to get a good GPS fix (either using the shipped GPS antenna, or using the LTE). I am still researching and I will post if I can solve my situation.
jkl555 said: I bought one (JY-TQ186N4G) recently for my 2016 RAV4. I also have the same GPS problem. I move the GPS antenna to different places and make sure the connection is secure. But it doesn't help. Sometimes I have a signal and overtime it will lose the signal. I also have another problem which is the 4g LTE. The unit shows the 4G icon but Google chrome/youtube all said I am offline. Try to edit the APN but they are all greyed out, and there is no '+' anywhere for me to add a new APN. Looks like the carrier doesn't want anyone to change the APN. So I am pretty stuck to get a good GPS fix (either using the shipped GPS antenna, or using the LTE). I am still researching and I will post if I can solve my situation. Click to expand... Click to collapse Have you removed pin password from your sim card? You have to do this in other device, for example in your phone, before you instal the sim card in Joying.
yegolebi said: Have you removed pin password from your sim card? You have to do this in other device, for example in your phone, before you instal the sim card in Joying. Click to expand... Click to collapse Thanks for the tips. I already got it resolved and I should have posted an update earlier. For the LTE, it is just my carrier locks the APN and the one shipped with Joying is totally wrong. I managed to find a way to create a new and correct APN. For the GPS, it is a bit pain in the ass. I eventually find a spot that the HU can fix the signal. Here are some pictures. { "lightbox_close": "Close", "lightbox_next": "Next", "lightbox_previous": "Previous", "lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.", "lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow", "lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow", "lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen", "lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails", "lightbox_download": "Download", "lightbox_share": "Share", "lightbox_zoom": "Zoom", "lightbox_new_window": "New window", "lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar" }
Tobiman5591 said: Is it normal for the GPS to freak out when I'm under a bridge or in a tunnel? This problem happens a lot and gives me anxiety when I'm going to a new place. Click to expand... Click to collapse I assume this is a rhetorical question. Some factory units and a few name brand aftermarket units are connected to a car speed wire. That is used to approximately keep your location when GPS signal is lost
jkl555 said: Thanks for the tips. I already got it resolved and I should have posted an update earlier. For the LTE, it is just my carrier locks the APN and the one shipped with Joying is totally wrong. I managed to find a way to create a new and correct APN. For the GPS, it is a bit pain in the ass. I eventually find a spot that the HU can fix the signal. Here are some pictures. View attachment 5493825View attachment 5493827View attachment 5493829View attachment 5493831View attachment 5493823 Click to expand... Click to collapse Is that your stock rear camera or did that come with the unit you purchased?
Dvalin21 said: Is that your stock rear camera or did that come with the unit you purchased? Click to expand... Click to collapse It is the stock camera.
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Also, can anyone tell me or can do a phone call/mic review on this device? It use to absolutely suck back in the day.