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If anyone can give information / review about how different apps save downloaded art, it would be very helpful. It seems that art can be embedded in ID3 tags, or it can have put in a folder. But different programs save in different folders or into an "album art" file...which may not be compatible with different programs. Also, how does iTunes, Winamp, and Windows Media handle this? (Ive used each for my music collection, and so may have different types of cover art formats in my collection)
12/28/2010 I didn't mean to start making this into a bigger post. But let me first say what I'm looking at/for:
Features I'm paying attention to:
headset control
Lock Screen and homepage widget
General UI ( and in particular, ease of getting from a "playlist" back to the "Now playing" quickly
Features which are sort of cool to me:
lyric display
Folder / File Organization
Album art (it would help me if someone could tell me about the different types and options here. ID3 mode? Files?
(and a distant fourth in importance) Video player
Equalizer (I don
't care about this but everyone else seems to be)
Features are just can't get myself to care about:
Scrobbing (whatever the hell that is)
Social stuff
Any damn fraking thing that statistically analyzes my preference in order to help me decide what I like. I don't want to robotize my music.
So this is what I have looked at so far:
Samsung Default:
Great Status bar and lock screen controls. headset controls. Has equalizer. NO Folder Select (it scans all music on the phone and so will get unintended stuff into the library). Nothing special other than this, but it a good app. HOWEVER, I'm now using Darky's ROM which does not have the Samsung Lock Screen. The Samsung player's lockscreen widget is tied to the Samsung lockscreen. Also does not have homescreen widget, but this is more than made up for by the very good notification bar integration.
Meridian:
Plays video and music. Headset controls but no lock screen. Good gesture control. Edit ID Tags
Cubed:
Video and Music. NIce Lockscreen widget. Headset controls. Art download in ID3 mode. However I still don't terribly like the interface, but it works. Has a directory filter , so can play just a folder and keep out unwanted songs (like game songs). Downloads art in ID3...method. Don't know if that's good or bad. There really is no "Now Playing" screen. It just shows it super-imposed on the song library. Which is not pretty but its actually functional. For me, Cubed is a good free app.
MixZing:
Plays music and video. Options up the yingyang, including lots of social crap. I'm not going to detail here because lockscreen version is a paid app, and I'm focusing on not paying (it does have trial period though). Good UI. Can do folder view, and has good folder management options. Can switch between folder list and now playing very quickly. Has headset controls. Has Equalizer. Auto-download album art. The free version is staying on my phone because it plays video. Lots of damn social crap.
Winamp:
Just plays Music. Interface easy, but maybe a little dull (maybe there are skinning options?). Has headset controls and lockscreen. Ability to look up info and search on the artist. Ability to syn with Winamp desktop, so a good choice if you use that. Some social crap. No Equalizer
DoubleTwist:
Looks a little like Winamp, but also plays video. Has Lockscreen wideget and headset controls. With $5 purchase can sync with Itunes. No equalizer.
UI is mostly good, if not exciting. Does not do folder view(!). Not that many options. If I wanted to use one player for both music and video, and have the lockscreen widget and handset controls, this definitly works. It also has art download, but that's not so important to me. I also use iTunes Agent to file-sync anyway.
Miui:
Bare basic player. No equalizer. No lockscreen widget. No headset controls. What this does have is a) art download , and most exciting b) lyric read-along. I intend to use this app just for my KTV practice, so it will stay on my phone
(but I recently discovered Lyrics App, which allows me to see Lyrics of everything).
PowerAmp:
This has everything. But the free version is 15 day trialware, and I don't want to go through it all here. One thing I remember about this is that it allows fine customization of its widget appearence.
TinyPlayer:
As the name implies, a small player with minimum bells and wistles. My device is an SGS which generally has an OK time with demanding applications, so this is not for me. But for those who want a simple bare-minimum player, this works.
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Others have mentioned apps which I need to pay for to try, such as Lithium Player... apps which have a social network focus (Tunewiki), and apps that I need to flash (CW Mod). I'm sorry I cannot add these to this list now.
12/27/2010
I'm in China and sometimes the market is problematic (although I could just fix that with a VPN). When I can download again, I intend to note the features of :
btunes
Astro Player
TuneWiki
Also, I will re-download all the above (I just wiped-flash Darky's awesome ROM for my SGS) and go back over the others and note down features I missed.
Here is a pic of the homescreen widgets.
Widgets (from top to bottom):
Meridian
Cubed
MixZing
Winamp
Doubletwist
I'll never understand why people say they don't understand "cubed" interface. What's confusing about it? It's the same thing as scrolling through albums with a little animation. The new update gives you control over the directory files, so it's not like it's different then any other player. Do people really get that shocked when they see something that looks different but operates the exact same?
Just scroll up or down, man. You'll see the albums or artist (depending on how you choose) in ABC order. You want to skip to a different letter, scroll side to side. That's literally the entire learning curve. Don't like the cube? Change the view mode to Morph Flow. Don't like looking at albums? Change the view mode to boring, it just gives you a list.
The only thing I can possibly imagine people being slow to realize is that to change the place of a song, you click on the dotted light thing at the bottom. To change from artist to album to song you drag the dotted bar in the bottom-middle to the right or left.
This all took me less then 2 minutes to figure out.
poweramp = iTunes . I'm off it. same **** different skin. Cubed can scan all the bands in your library and tell you A) when their upcoming release is and B) the next time their playing a show within 50 miles of you (you can adjust the distance). Now THAT'S practical application.
I appreciate you putting this list together. It is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks.
Hands down the best player is TINY PLAYER. It actually does REAL folder play like you're using windows explorer on your home computer.
Another great feature is the live font size option which lets me read long file names. Even Poweramp doesn't have that crucial feature. What good is it if I can't read what song it is. Especially true for Classical music with long file names.
PS - It is the ugliest ui ever tho lol. But I really don't care.
PS2 - Poweramp doesn't have everything. It lacks sleep timer and font size changing to read long file names. And no true folder play. Both of which are available in tiny player. and it is tiny at 64kb
I figured I would throw a few notes in the discussion about music players since music is a big part of my Android experience. I use two apps, one for playing music located on my phone, and another app for streaming from my home PC.
1) Mixing:
the main reason I bought this app was because of the lock screen abilities. Not only does it give you gesture commands from the lock screen, but it also has a setting that will make the lock screen come active for a few seconds each time a new song starts, showing the album art and song information. I like this a lot since it allows me to see what has just started playing, and mainly because it gives me a few seconds to skip the song if I do not like it ... instead of having to hit the power button first to activate the screen, like all the other music apps do ... it's one less step to distract you when driving. It is a small, nitch feature, but it is worth the money of the full version app for me. I have yet to find another music app that does this.
2) Audiogalaxy:
Hands down, this is the best app to use if you want to stream music from your home computer. This is great for people like me that have huge music libraries that will not fit on an SD card. All you have to do is download the app for your phone, install a small program on your PC, and sign up on their website. It is free, and it simply works with no hastles. I have tried many other apps that I could not get to work ... they all required me to **** around with ports and IP addresses, and I could not get any of them to work. Audiogalaxy was so easy my mom could do it. No screwing around with ports or IP's, just install, setup which folders you want to scan, and then wait for it to build your library. Great app!!
Hopefully Mixzing adds streaming ability into its code so I can just use one music app. Until then I will continue to use these two apps together. Together they make for an awesome music experience on the Android phone.
hi, nice list for reference.
just a quick note from me, i'm using miui and the lockscreen and heatset controls works on cm6 which has those tweaks modded on.
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I'll never understand why people say they don't understand "cubed" interface. What's confusing about it? ...
Just scroll up or down, man. You'll see the albums or artist (depending on how you choose) in ABC order. ...
...Cubed can scan all the bands in your library and tell you A) when their upcoming release is and B) the next time their playing a show within 50 miles of you (you can adjust the distance). Now THAT'S practical application.
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I guess I should say I like "folder view". Or just Song List. I have a lot of songs from independents, songs un-attributed in the tags, songs from Chinese artists, etc. So I don't want to go to an Album or Artist, but rather to a folder. I'm sorry...I did not know the correct terminology.
As for internet-related content, you may have seen I call that stuff "social crap". I have no idea what scrobbing is. The artists don't come to China. And even if I was in the US, I really could not care to share my music tastes with others... let everyone find their own muse.
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hi, nice list for reference.
just a quick note from me, i'm using miui and the lockscreen and heatset controls works on cm6 which has those tweaks modded on.
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Oh. Sounds cool. I don't want to have to flash something just to get that function though. But having lyrics is fun.
AlexNC75 said:
I figured I would throw a few notes in the discussion about music players since music is a big part of my Android experience. I use two apps, one for playing music located on my phone, and another app for streaming from my home PC.
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I'm just focusing on Apps that I can use outside. But thanks for those comments. Does AudioGalaxy allow non-streaming, regular functionality? FYI some of the other players above (I think Meridian) also have streaming, but I didn't review this because its not something I look for. I need to update for this feature I guess.
I will now download tinyplayer and add this to the review. I also hope to download (from somewhere) the stock Android player.
Right now probably Doubletwist will be my main player, only because its a music and video player that has lockscreen widget and headset controls. OR I will try to reinstall the Galaxy SGS player (which is uninstalled after flashing Darky's ROM). Funny thing is Doubletwist's main sell-point is iPhone integration, and I don't care enough about that to purchase it.
If I was going to spend money (which I may just do), then Mixing is the best of what I have reviewed so far. I don't know if its worth $5 for now.
I personally use 2 music players
1 standard CyanogenMod player
2 Lithium player
I normally do this because I will have music on lithium, and podcast download through methods other than my podcast player in t he CM music player.
since nobody mentioned lithium and it's a pay app I would mention a few things..
Pro: Looks great, UI is great and has nice things like volume built in, multi-colors/customizations and the #1 reason I bought it is it grabs album art for with a few clicks!
Cons: The ui for FF/RW skips to big of a segment in a 2 hour, or 2 hour podcast (not a big deal, it's a music player not a podcast player) and one semi-major issue for me is the program NEVER shows up in tasks (holding home), or previously used programs (etc). For some reason android doesn't recognize it as a program and the CM lockscreen music controls don't work for it.
To me the pro's outweigh the cons so I purchased it even if just for the album grabber.
I still really like bTunes.
I know it's abandonware, but it's only $1.49.
Looks like the iPod player (may be a good thing or a bad thing), it's very simple to use, it has a nice widget and even though it hasn't been updated in some time, it works great on froyo and never crashes on my phone. I don't think it has an equalizer.
TuneWiki is my fave, actually one of my fave Android apps.
Music Player Pro is still the best for me, I wish PowerAmp gets some of MPP features to use only one.
Thanks for the comments about the apps you tested
Tinyplayer for me on the Inc. Half the players can't find the built in memory. Most of the others can't restrict themselves to a folder so a bunch of sound files that aren't music and belong to games.
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Tinyplayer for me on the Inc. Half the players can't find the built in memory. Most of the others can't restrict themselves to a folder so a bunch of sound files that aren't music and belong to games.
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I'm looking at Mort Player now and it also does folder selection but has a lot more options, (headset control for one)
I'm still using the basic player ...
I've tried some of the more robust apps, but damn if they don't chew up a bunch of runtime memory, causing lag. I'd like an equalizer, but I don't want all the extra garbage that comes with an app, when I don't need it.
Have gone through various music players but Power Amp is the best it's worth paying for in the market.
Rockbox is absolutely the best choice. Equalizer, actual playlist support, themes, lockscreen controls, and plays every codec at the highest quality you throw at it. Just missing widgets, but it's a little buggy at the moment and it's still early in development.
i think u forgot TTPOD
A nice feature is if it is compatible with Last.FM scrobble apps
Nice summary atm i use Winamp becausr it has a esay ui and i love the shoutcast Radio Feature but maybe i switch to Double Twist because of the wifi sync i dont know yet...
Lollipop_Lawlipop said:
Rockbox is absolutely the best choice. Equalizer, actual playlist support, themes, lockscreen controls, and plays every codec at the highest quality you throw at it. Just missing widgets, but it's a little buggy at the moment and it's still early in development.
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I will check it out. Widgets is a must-have for me, unless it also has a status bar control option (which is even better than widgets.
jonny68 said:
Have gone through various music players but Power Amp is the best it's worth paying for in the market.
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I tend to agree, but I'm not sure how much money I want to spend on my phone. Part of me wants to get an iPhone and never have to fudge around with settings and roms again. Part of me hates the iPhone because I can't do with it what I want. So I'm trying not to invest more money in my phone unless I get something really really must-have. As the default player with the SGS is good (and now can use it with Darky's ROM), I'm good.
phoezies said:
i think u forgot TTPOD
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Will check it out and update.
Zalastax said:
A nice feature is if it is compatible with Last.FM scrobble apps
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I'm in China and so have missed the social network craze. I think if I was in USA, I still would have missed it.
Poapfel said:
Nice summary atm i use Winamp becausr it has a esay ui and i love the shoutcast Radio Feature but maybe i switch to Double Twist because of the wifi sync i dont know yet...
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Winamp's UI is easy, but Double Twist is very similar UI IMO.
Hi all,
I'm the developer of Shuttle Music Player (formerly AMP).
Shuttle is a lightweight, simple & elegant music player for Android. It's based on the AOSP Music Player, with inspiration from the previous Google Play and the current Google Now.
Shuttle includes a built in equalizer, gapless playback (4.0+), queue support playlists, highly customizable widgets, sleep timer, scrobbling, dashclock support and more.
Shuttle has been on the Play Store for almost 6 months now, and is nearing 50.000 downloads!
Screenshot: imgur.com/og6Irh5
Link: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=another.music.player
Hey man, I love your app. Is the only player that works correctly on my phone :victory:.
Do you think there's a possibility to add ReplayGain support? I have some music that makes use of it and I can't enjoy them correctly because lack of that function.
I think it is Apple app when I see the shuttle
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Hey man, I love your app. Is the only player that works correctly on my phone :victory:.
Do you think there's a possibility to add ReplayGain support? I have some music that makes use of it and I can't enjoy them correctly because lack of that function.
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Thanks for the compliments, glad you're enjoying it. Replay gain is beyond the scope of Shuttle for now.. Since I use the Android API's for media playback, and there is no inherent support for replay gain.. So, it's not planned at this stage, sorry.
I think it is Apple app when I see the shuttle
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I don't quite understand..?
timusus said:
I don't quite understand..?
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I think he means Shuttle has a good design/UI.
timusus said:
(...) So, it's not planned at this stage, sorry.
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What a pity... Still the best player, though.
Today installed Shuttle+. Like it very much,nice UI.Only issue I have : While playing music, the EQ doesn't open and the app force closes.
After noticing this ,in CWM recovery I wiped cache,wiped Dalvik cache and fixed permissions on my leaked 4.2.2 Samsung S3 ROM. Problem persists.Can open EQ when there's no music playing,works fine then.
Imo EQ should be editable when playing music,as in Google Play Music.
Any thoughts and/or advice on this ?
Necro-post! Hopefully the dev is still around?
I'm switching from Google Play Music to Shuttle due to the fact that I don't like the way GPM behaves in 4.4.4 when I swipe it from the Recent Tasks (it stops playback, which is mind-boggling nonsense for me).
Is there any way to Import the playlists I have on GPM into Shuttle?
It would be nice to have the apk available as an attachment on the first post or a link directly to apk, instead of playstore.
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Necro-post! Hopefully the dev is still around?
I'm switching from Google Play Music to Shuttle due to the fact that I don't like the way GPM behaves in 4.4.4 when I swipe it from the Recent Tasks (it stops playback, which is mind-boggling nonsense for me).
Is there any way to Import the playlists I have on GPM into Shuttle?
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Why shouldn't he not? App is still in progress...last update few days ago to 1.4.8 (go to play store and there is a link to his community)
I like the player
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vergilbt said:
Why shouldn't he not? App is still in progress...last update few days ago to 1.4.8 (go to play store and there is a link to his community)
I like the player
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I didn't know about his community. I knew the app was actively developed, but when I wondered if he was still around I mostly meant I was wondering if he was around here on XDA forums. Apparently he isn't though.
Hey there, I want to start off by saying I love your app - truly a marvel of development. I plan on buying Shuttle+, but before I do I have a couple of questions:
1. What exactly does it mean when it says I can edit "some" tags? I seem to have an issue where the files I have added to my phone (OnePlus 2) that are of the same album do not go together, but instead create 2 or 3 separate albums. I do not have this issue with my iPod, and believe it is a tagging issue but I can't find any differences in the files themselves. Also will I be able to add or change artwork?
2. I have this issue where I am seeing double. But when I go to settings > apps > all, there is no "media store", but rather "media storage". Are these the same thing? Again, I am using OnePlus 2.
Thanks
Hi !! Just got Shuttle+ from the play store. I was looking for a nice alternative to HTC stock player (discontinued on the HTC10) and I found your feature-packed app wonderful ! Built in EQ is a great plus. Keep up the good work, glad to contribute by getting the pro version !
One feature I really liked from another app I tried (don't remember the name) is the possibility to blur the album cover on the lockscreen. Makes for a beautiful look while listening to music !
Thanks again
Hi All
Just for my Sony Smart Watch 2 yesterday and feeling a little underwhelmed
I also have a Pebble which I feel at the moment is better.
Two things:
1. I cannot get the Sony to stay in control of Google Play music when its playing. It will do the volume but then when you go to forward a track it defaults to the Walkman app and starts that and plays the demo tracks. I have tried disabling the Walkman app but then the app on the watch just crashes.
2. The second and less important thing is Facebook integration. On the Pebble it will deal with two Facebook accounts being run on the phone. One in the Facebook app and the other Facebook Messenger. Both running different accounts. The Sony seems to only recognize the actual Facebook app.
Anyone have a solution to these?
Oh I just thought of a third, lack of watch faces! And especially watch faces giving a lot of information. The Pebble face I use has time, weather and phone battery status...
Well theres my rant!
Simon
simonsteele said:
Hi All
Just for my Sony Smart Watch 2 yesterday and feeling a little underwhelmed
I also have a Pebble which I feel at the moment is better.
Two things:
1. I cannot get the Sony to stay in control of Google Play music when its playing. It will do the volume but then when you go to forward a track it defaults to the Walkman app and starts that and plays the demo tracks. I have tried disabling the Walkman app but then the app on the watch just crashes.
2. The second and less important thing is Facebook integration. On the Pebble it will deal with two Facebook accounts being run on the phone. One in the Facebook app and the other Facebook Messenger. Both running different accounts. The Sony seems to only recognize the actual Facebook app.
Anyone have a solution to these?
Oh I just thought of a third, lack of watch faces! And especially watch faces giving a lot of information. The Pebble face I use has time, weather and phone battery status...
Well theres my rant!
Simon
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How are you even controlling media from the watch at all? The media player app is missing in the Android app store at the moment. However, even on the Smartwatch 1 I believe the Sony official app was locked to the default media player on your device. Most brands of phone have their own take on the music player, such as Sony's Walkman app. The volume control is not related to the app as its the master output volume. But the track changes will be sent to a specific app, not the one that's currently playing music.
Now, there is an upgrade of Music Player Extras by Sony that allow to control Google Play Music correctly. You can set volume, play/pause song, go to next or prev song; but u can't see Artist or Title of the song from the smartwatch.
That's an improvement. Shame about no song details. Thanks for the heads up
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Now, there is an upgrade of Music Player Extras by Sony that allow to control Google Play Music correctly. You can set volume, play/pause song, go to next or prev song; but u can't see Artist or Title of the song from the smartwatch.
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Yeah I spotted it last night. I have an HTC phone and before yesterday night, there was no music player at all for the smartwatch 2 hence my previous comment. I have it now.
I too have an HTC phone (One - M7) and the Smartwatch 2. This Music Extras is the only one that work properly with Play Music until now.
poweramp poweramp poweramp poweramp
power amp
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power amp
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Damn it, you beat me to it :highfive:
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Does anyone know if it's possible to disable or uninstall the New Events aggregator plugin. The one that's just a yellow circle with a number in the middle. I'm using WatchIt!, so don't think I need this New Events thing.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rahilm.sw2play
Music player remote for the Sony SmartWatch 2
***Requires Android 4.4 KitKat***
Made for Google Play Music and will work with any regularly updating music player available today. Explicitly tested with:
-Google Play Music
-Pandora
-Spotify
-n7player
-TuneIn
-iHeartRadio
-Slacker
** If you would like us to work on compatibility with other music players let us know, we'll do our best
Features:
-Play, pause, next track, previous track
-Current and previous song artwork displayed on gorgeous UI (transparency control setting on phone)
-Song, album, and artist name
-Low power (monochrome) mode
-Clock on screen (turn on or off from settings on phone)
Controls:
-Long press for play/pause
-Swipe right for previous song
-Swipe left for next song
-Swipe up for volume increase
-Swipe down for volume decrease
*Requires Notification Access*
We personally use this app and are actively working on it. If you come across bugs or want to make suggestions please contact us. Feedback is appreciated.
Smart Connect extension for SmartWatch 2
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Version 1.1
-Fixed artwork issues with all major players
-Added clock and setting to turn clock on or off
-Added pause indicator and setting to turn it on or off
-Added setting to select variable opacity
-Added setting to select action for play/pause (tap or long-press)
-Battery optimization
n7player would be nice too... (it is a popular player aswell. I have no kitkat, but just said...)
Sent from my Galaxy Note 10.1 (N8000).
Hi,
Thanks for the recommendation. We tested with n7player and the app already fully works (artwork and controls).
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Search SW2Play on Play Store to find app (can't post links yet unfortunately)
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Why need 4.4 API
Please add the ability to open your music apps from the watch app.
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Why need 4.4 API
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The 4.4 API added a new class that allows access to metatada from any music player. This did not exist before. There are hidden APIs prior to 4.4, but they are very hit or miss and most of the time artwork can't be retrieved.
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Please add the ability to open your music apps from the watch app.
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Thanks for the feedback. We will do our best to make this happen within the next week.
Great app
Excellent media controller, now album art shows. Many thanks
thanks bro
New update
Hi guys,
Just pushed an update up with the following changes:
Version 1.1
-Fixed artwork issues with all major players
-Added clock and setting to turn clock on or off
-Added pause indicator and setting to turn it on or off
-Added setting to select variable opacity
-Added setting to select action for play/pause (tap or long-press)
-Battery optimization
We are working very hard on an elegant solution to automatically start the music player of your choice. That feature is coming very soon. As always, your feedback is appreciated and we will do our best to incorporate any features you want.
Good looking app, just one suggestion/request. Not sure if it's possible but the option to like or dislike a song (Google Play Music) would be nice.
Where is app?
For the life of me I cant seem to find this app in the play store. What exactly is it called?
Rezsy said:
For the life of me I cant seem to find this app in the play store. What exactly is it called?
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Hi, thanks for your interest in the app. I PM'ed you a link to the app since I can't post links yet on the public forum.
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Hi, thanks for your interest in the app. I PM'ed you a link to the app since I can't post links yet on the public forum.
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Guess I should have read the requirements better. I have a galaxy note 2 so no kitkat only 4.3 :crying:
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Can I have the link to the app as I cannot find in the store?
Inviato dal mio Nexus 7 utilizzando Tapatalk
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Can I have the link to the app as I cannot find in the store?
Inviato dal mio Nexus 7 utilizzando Tapatalk
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rahilm.sw2play
Original Smartwatch
Hi rahilm!
Is it possible to make it compatible with the first sony smartwatch? The official Music Player extension doesn't work well with it, on Android 4.4 or its related to the outdated app. It starts or stops the music randomly when you wake up the watch.And it seems to take forever to load the app on the watch, the screen goes black when you open it and loads 10-20 seconds later.
If I am wrong and someone allready found a solution, fix to make the official app working with Google Play Music on Kit Kat please correct me and let me know.
Thanks in advance! Keep up the good work!
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Hi rahilm!
Is it possible to make it compatible with the first sony smartwatch? The official Music Player extension doesn't work well with it, on Android 4.4 or its related to the outdated app. It starts or stops the music randomly when you wake up the watch.And it seems to take forever to load the app on the watch, the screen goes black when you open it and loads 10-20 seconds later.
If I am wrong and someone allready found a solution, fix to make the official app working with Google Play Music on Kit Kat please correct me and let me know.
Thanks in advance! Keep up the good work!
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Hi,
We will look into it. The resolution is significantly worse on the original SmartWatch, so we are not sure how the UI will suffer.
Thanks for your great work. Is it planned to make it possible to switch betwen Albums?
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Thanks for your great work. Is it planned to make it possible to switch betwen Albums?
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Do you mean playlist switch and stuff like that? Unfortunately, that is too player specific and we want to support as many players as possible. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
As an update, we are still working on a solution for opening the music player. It is proving difficult with what is allowed by Android APIs, but we are still working diligently toward it.
For those of us who want to run a more standard Android launcher (Nova, oem launchers, etc), what are you guys doing re: music player controls?
I've noticed that car launchers like Agama and Vivid have pretty cool music controls integrated in- whether it is my Bluetooth connection to a phone, Spotify, Amazon Music, YT Music, etc., it displays whatever track information it has (sometimes art too) and universal play/pause/next/prev buttons. I like that.
My Atoto S8 Ultra (uis7862 based unit) comes with a pretty standard launcher. There is a music widget that seems to control just the built in local music player, which I don't like and therefore don't use. It got me thinking, are there any universal widgets that can work the same way the Vivid/Agama/etc launchers handle it?
I found and tried the following so far:
Music Widgets for Car Devices
This seemed promising on paper. I can't get it to switch between sources however, it gets stuck on the last one used even if I clear all open apps. For example, if I had Spotify open, and the next time I drive I want to listen to Amazon Music, it still shows Spotify controls and track information. I have to go into settings for the widget and press OK, only then will it update.
Also, I think I had the Bluetooth track control the very first time I installed it (I was playing music over BT to test it), but ever since I used it with anything else (Spotify, Amazon, etc) it refuses to ever go back to BT control.
Material Music Widget
I like the aesthetics of this one, seems much nicer than the first one. BUT, the trial version only allows you to connect it to a single app player so I can't confirm if it does what I want correctly. I also can't seem to get it to recognize the BT player, I'd imagine if it wasn't designed to be a car player widget it wouldn't be aware of that as an option.
What else should I try? What do you guys use?
I use Poweramp without any widget. The interface allows you to swipe left, right, up and down on the album cover. Very easy and intuitive. I like keeping it open to see the album cover. I have navigation, Waze on the left 2/3 of the screen and Poweramp on the right 1/3. I think it's 2/3 and 1/3 or it could be 3/4 and 1/4...not sure. I usually use the steering wheel controls to switch to the next song and play/pause. I have another button to change source, but I usually don't. I usually listen to the music on my USB stick using Poweramp.
mastrv said:
I use Poweramp without any widget. The interface allows you to swipe left, right, up and down on the album cover. Very easy and intuitive. I like keeping it open to see the album cover. I have navigation, Waze on the left 2/3 of the screen and Poweramp on the right 1/3. I think it's 2/3 and 1/3 or it could be 3/4 and 1/4...not sure. I usually use the steering wheel controls to switch to the next song and play/pause. I have another button to change source, but I usually don't. I usually listen to the music on my USB stick using Poweramp.
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That doesn't help me though.
I have multiple drivers of my car between my wife and daughter, we use a mix of sources between Spotify, Amazon Music, AA/Bluetooth (because my daughter has her own spotify account she wants to use), etc.
It's annoying to have so many interfaces, I feel like there could/should be one set of "now playing" info on the display, with one universal set of controls for pause/play/next etc.
Agama and other launchers do this correctly, but their UI is too busy and too far from stock for me. I like the stock Android UI better, with the recognizable and colorful icons, but finding a widget like this seems harder than expected.
I am finding the folks at 4PDA made something called Music Proxy which sort of takes over the FYT standard audio player and uses that widget. However, Atoto's built in player widget is kind of ugly, huge, and doesn't even support album art (unlike other launchers that have this built in), I was hoping for a better option.
Suggesting a totally different app (Poweramp) isn't a solution for me personally, although I appreciate the reply.
Still searching for music widget that can go forward and rewind the tracks
Ubiquity ?
surfer63 said:
Ubiquity ?
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Does that work on our modern Android OS?
dishe2 said:
Does that work on our modern Android OS?
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No idea. I know they used it on the FYT Android 6 Sofia's. I never used it. I had to dig down deep in my memory and then search Google Play Store to find it back.
I guess you simply have to try.
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No idea. I know they used it on the FYT Android 6 Sofia's. I never used it. I had to dig down deep in my memory and then search Google Play Store to find it back.
I guess you simply have to try.
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I wanted to as soon you wrote it, but it says not compatible with my version of Android.
I could try forcing it via side load but I feel like it might just not work since it says designed for KitKat.
Its a shame because we know it's possible for a widget to do what we are asking but no one has done it.
Meanwhile, thanks to suggestions elsewhere here, I found the music widget updater for Teyes and the music proxy app from 4pda that goes along with it.
It's VERY CLOSE to what I want. It turns the standard FYT music player into a "now playing" universal widget, supports pretty much any media including Bluetooth, and gives play/pause/prev/next controls to whatever is currently playing.
The only problem is that the Atoto oem widget is ugly and still doesn't support album art the way the ones I found above do.
It also doesn't go forward or back in the track like the other suggestion, but I know that isn't compatible with Bluetooth streaming anyway (avrcp support is weak, even in the Bluetooth player screen).
I wish I had more experience with app development so I could try making it myself.
Do you have link?
WidgetUpdater for Teyes (Demo) - Apps on Google Play
Display title, artist and cover of the track in Teyes widgets
play.google.com
FYI, thanks to a post in another thread, @surfer63 pointed out that Ubiquity widget DOES work if you just sideload the apk, despite the Play Store saying incompatible. I installed mine from here and it seems to work:
https://m.apkpure.com/ubiquity-music-widget/com.jackthakar.musicwidget
The problem is, it STILL doesn't do what I wanted apparently: Give universal controls for all audio playing, including Bluetooth.
It's pretty much the same as the apps listed in the first post - as in, a good universal widget for apps (Spotify, Amazon Music, Youtube, etc). But it still does not recognize Bluetooth audio streaming. For that source of audio, you need to use the Bluetooth app on the radio to see and control what's playing. This is what I'm trying to avoid having to do.
The launchers like Vivid, Agama, etc, can all seem to integrate this into one player control. Even the WidgetUpdater for Teyes app linked above this post seems to get it, but relies on a very poorly designed stock launcher widget that doesn't look right on Atoto's launcher (text is aligned oddly). It's totally possible to get this working, but I wonder what I'm doing wrong.
Is it possible that Ubiquity works with other FYT units and their Bluetooth controls? I know my Atoto has a funny Bluetooth system compared to other FYT radios.
UPDATE:
Vivid Launcher. If you've tried it before and found it buggy, try it again now. It does it perfectly.
A long time ago and it was terrible re: compatibility with FYT (it was made for a different radio type). Tried to do too much customization and fell short, being buggy and freezing a lot.
I just tried it again because I remember their music widget was pretty spot on, and I have to say it seems like they really fixed it up to be more compatible, and the audio controls are now EVERYTHING I WANTED IT TO BE!
It will even automatically switch to Bluetooth audio as a source if you start playing something off your phone, pausing the head unit's playback elsewhere. Before this, if I was playing Spotify locally, I couldn't hear voice notes on my phone unless I switch over to the BT app. With the new Vivid launcher, it will automatically pause Spotify and switch to BT as a source when it detects something is playing there. I can then hit play on spotify again and continue.
And no matter what audio source is active, their music screen acts as a universal widget with controls and titles and even album art if there is any. I'm just so excited to have found this I had to share.
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UPDATE:
Vivid Launcher. If you've tried it before and found it buggy, try it again now. It does it perfectly.
A long time ago and it was terrible re: compatibility with FYT (it was made for a different radio type). Tried to do too much customization and fell short, being buggy and freezing a lot.
I just tried it again because I remember their music widget was pretty spot on, and I have to say it seems like they really fixed it up to be more compatible, and the audio controls are now EVERYTHING I WANTED IT TO BE!
It will even automatically switch to Bluetooth audio as a source if you start playing something off your phone, pausing the head unit's playback elsewhere. Before this, if I was playing Spotify locally, I couldn't hear voice notes on my phone unless I switch over to the BT app. With the new Vivid launcher, it will automatically pause Spotify and switch to BT as a source when it detects something is playing there. I can then hit play on spotify again and continue.
And no matter what audio source is active, their music screen acts as a universal widget with controls and titles and even album art if there is any. I'm just so excited to have found this I had to share.
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What kind of phone do you have and what version of Vivid launcher?
I have special version working well with NavRadio+ and when I use my phone that player sometimes changes into BT playing even if there's no music, but for example sound of typing.
I have a Oneplus 10 Pro, and I dunno - whatever version of Vivid is on the play store about 3 days ago!
I just installed the Vivid launcher on my wife's A6 pf (8581a) and none of the bluetooth or phone functions exist, so I guess they turn on / off features when it recognizes certain hardware?
I noticed that mine lags a couple of seconds before switching to bluetooth, so a notification like turning on my phone or getting a message doesn't switch, but anything that plays for 2+ seconds did. So a voice note would cut off the first couple of seconds, but at least I can replay if I need to and still don't need to change the headunit over.
Maybe your kb has too much constant noise so it clicks over?