So I have around 1000 songs on iTunes that I want to transfer over to my phone since I just got a new SD card for it. The problem is, the ID3 tags that display correctly in iTunes show up as a bunch of jumbled characters on Android 2.3's default, as well as other music players including doubleTwist, Poweramp and so on. What's weird is that the phone only does this for certain songs. However, other songs using the same set of characters will display properly.
I've tried to sync my iTunes library with my phone using programs like doubleTwist and SnapPea already. Both produce the exact same result as dragging and dropping the files into my SD card's 'media' folder would--all they do is take the files from 'My Music' (the ones with the messed up ID3 tags) so the file titles are all messed up in the phone's music player.
For example, I have a song starting with the symbol 'θ' that will display properly on my phone but 'β' doesn't display... it turns it a Chinese character for some reason. I've used apps like ID3Fixer to no avail. Besides, it'd take too long for me to go through the metadata of 1000 songs... surely there's a way to fix this if iTunes can display them correctly? I've been looking for ways to forcibly embed the iTunes metadata onto the standalone files themselves (in 'My Music') but I still haven't found anything. In fact, the ID3 tags for these songs are messed up outside iTunes because I only edited their metadata in iTunes in the first place.
Any help at all is appreciated. Thanks.
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Is there ANY other program you can use to sync songs to a TP besides WMP? I've been using WMP, but it keeps on making random duplicates of all my songs, and it's REALLY annoying.
I would greatly appreciate any advice.
Oh and I don't want to just drag+drop, I would like some sort of program.
Thanks.
i agree i moved from a iphone and i got to say its annoying, the way windows mobile phones organize music, and when i use windows media player mobile to update my library it seaches the entire device and grabs even system sounds.
Hmm, I just put my microsd card into my computer and dump all the music I want to listen to (mp3, flak, ogg, what ever) into the music folder to play with the built in player / core player.
Eric03 said:
Is there ANY other program you can use to sync songs to a TP besides WMP? I've been using WMP, but it keeps on making random duplicates of all my songs, and it's REALLY annoying.
I would greatly appreciate any advice.
Oh and I don't want to just drag+drop, I would like some sort of program.
Thanks.
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How is drag and drop ANY more difficult than a program?
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How is drag and drop ANY more difficult than a program?
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Well at least with WMP I can see my music in a "library" setup, as opposed to just opening my music folder which has thousands upon thousands of subfolders. It's just much easier for me (at least the way my music folder is setup) to use a program such as WMP.... but WMP sucks. That is why I am asking for an alternative to WMP.
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Hmm, I just put my microsd card into my computer and dump all the music I want to listen to (mp3, flak, ogg, what ever) into the music folder to play with the built in player / core player.
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Thats exactly what I do and it works like a charm. It is easier than using a program in my opinion. Are you doing something wrong? is it giving you trouble moving the files to the microSD card?
When I start Winamp and have my phone plugged in, it detects it and asks if I want to use it to manage my music on the phone. Winamp has a great name out there, maybe it oculd be useful.
I also used Yahoo Music Engine at once point and that worked great, like itunes. I think that whole deal is still around too, albeit Yahoo music has changed a bit, the app was called Yahoo Music Engine.
I have not tried sync with WM11. There must be a simple option or something you are missing. Perhaps it has to do with Media Player on WM6 and the library function. If you scan the device and organize the library to ignore your Windows folder then it probably won't be a problem on the WM11 side.
Does that make any sense?
WM11 is simple drag and drop; the problem is that when it loads music onto your Phone/SD card it puts it into the file structure Artist/Album/Track based off id3 tags. So if your music is improperly tagged or if you have more than one copy of a song like an album and a compilation album you'll end up with duplicates.
Personally I just wipe out the Music folder on my SD card every 2 weeks or so and dump a new playlist onto it. You can use the WMP sort function in the playlist to eliminate any duplicates before you copy them over. You can still add to the card later and it won't reinstall the same file so long as it's not a duplicate on your desktop like I mentioned above.
As for getting rid of ringtones showing up in your library on your phone I use Pocket Player for my MP3 player and it has an "Exclude Directory" option on it so it will only update from the SD card music folder.
Did Wm4 or CE or whatever handle music?
So that whole development time while WM5 was on market and ipod appeared, was MS just sitting there saying, "Well these are business devices let's focus on getting four Excel cells to show up on this ****tay 320x240 screen instead"
Great.
And the even funier part is the new Blackberry virtualization occurring over WM6. If they were so good at business apps then why is this occurring, HELP ME UNDERSTAND hahahhaha
This was all tongue in cheek utterance from a bewildered fan of MS and their spastic roll outs!!!!!
So if you use Windows Media Player and Sync song files to the to the Charge will they automatically save to the SD card...my last phone had a setting where you decided where you wanted stuff saved. Internal vs. SD..does this setting existin in the stock charge UI? If so where?
Drop the music wherever you like on the SD card. Android's media scanner will take care of the rest.
Cooll..I did this...worked Great..but it didn't sync any of the Album cover jpgs..instead every Album on my phone has this Stupid different color bubble jpg next to each Album..Anyway to change this?
The problem is that you have album cover JPGs as separate files. Are you coming from iTunes? The way to fix is to embed the album art into the mP3 files themselves. This can be done with an ID3 tag editor such as http://www.mp3tag.de/en/ (free). If you have ripped CDs you can process whole albums at a time and it will import the album art from amazon or freecd databases on the web, and mash the picture right into the mp3s.
They are ripped CDs on my laptop...all I did was take them all drag them over to synch folder and the phone and Windows Media Player did the rest...so how would do this? Won't the ripped CDs have the pics inbedded in the wave files or whatever.
I didn't even associate the Album cover with the Albums Windows Media Player did automatically...so naturraly I thought if I just dumped them in the synch folder it would synch everything. So how do I do this?
well i do pretty much what you do, but i create an autoplaylist called androidsync which automatically adds everything to itself, then just always sync that playlist.
What you're doing should work - curious. ID3 tagging would definitely fix it though.. depending on how much music you have it can be a pain.
I am looking for some clarification on how Android generates the Music DB and in particular how it displays track and album info and artwork. Right now I have some music in a "Music" folder on the root of my sdcard. There are several tracks directly in that folder, and some others organized into subfolders by artist or album. I'm having several problems getting the info to display properly.
My first issue is album artwork. Does Android display artwork that is embedded in the file? Some of them are showing up correctly and some are showing album covers from other tracks. Some of the things I've read suggested that everything be organized in folders by Album and to have an AlbumArt.jpg in each folder. While this is doable, I haven't gotten around to reorganizing my library and would rather the phone just read artwork from the file. I have checked the id3 tags of some of the problem tracks, both with an app on the phone, and from my pc, and everything (including artwork) looks fine. Both the stock music player and several 3rd party players are displaying the information incorrectly and identical so it seems to me like Android is caching the data incorrectly. I've tried to delete the albumthumbs folder on the sdcard as well as Settings->Manage Applications->Media Storage->Clear Data. It just gets regenerated incorrectly.
I think this is related to my next problem. It seems like the tracks that do not reside in their own album folders and sit directly in the Music folder are having the most problems. In particular the songs where there is no Album field in the id3 tags. The phone seems to think these all belong to the album "Music" - must be resorting to looking at the containing directory if no album is found in the tags. What's odd is that even though it thinks several tracks belong to this Music album, its now showing the same artwork for each of them.
What is the ideal way to organize music for playback on Android? Would sorting everything info folders by Album solve my problems? Do I need to make sure I don't have any blank Album tags?
On a side note, is anyone familiar with how iTunes stores its Album art? I'm looking for an easy way to maintain consistency between my iTunes library and what is on my phone. I'm thinking of developing a small application that can scan both libraries and detect differences to keep them synchronized. All of my music is on my old Macbook which I hardly use, but I listen to it pretty much exclusively on my Android phone. The problem is we also have an iPad that I'd like to keep the music on so I can't ditch iTunes entirely.
Thanks for any advice.
I am running Bubbleupnp and i love it.. streaming music to my TV from my computer controlled by my phone is amazing.
a am also running XBMC for movies and TV shows.
So my question is.
What library options do i have.
options i am looking for
I would like the library to gather album and artists data much like xbmc does
I would also like a library that could check the songs DNA to find the correct name
I would like the library to be able to edit the files data to include artist/album/genre info ect.
I would LOVE a library that will delete duplicate files
I would like the library to edit the names of music to just the song title
I would like the library to manipulate the source library by changing music folders around and putting every song by the same artist in the same folder.
i currently have over 10,000 songs and only about 5000 of them are in folders. some folders are albums, some are artists, some are compilation albums (like "Misc Dubstep") and some songs i have edited by cutting off intros or long stupid outros thus removing all artist data but the songs are still recognizable by DNA...
My library has been growing and getting more and more chaotic over the last 10 years or so. its become too much of a task to even attempt this myself.
I know there are programs that will do what i want... just not sure if there is an all inclusive Library Managment software outthere that i am unaware of. i would love to stop seeing [ ? ] icons when i stream upnp music to my phone or tv
What are my options
OK found some software and tried it out
MediaMonkey seemed good up front.. thought i had it with that one.. turned out that its more manual then automated. I clicked a file to edit and clicked on tracks with unknown artists... went to the search and hit apply.. and it changed teh album cover art, album, and artist to about 60 songs but put them all as Bach Cello suites.
after some research i did it wrong but the right way is more tedius. clicking one track at a time and updating the info you want.
so.. screw that program.
Then i found a program by accident when looking for help with the MediaMonkey called MusicBrainz
this is where its at...
now.. i dont know that it does Videos such as movies but i am more interested in the music..
So opened up and pretty straight forward..
i went into my music folder and searched for all files over 1mb (Size>1MB in the search) and moved all my music out of its containing folders
I then scrapped the leftover folders and random junk left.
Set MusicBrainz to the input folder
set the output folder to my normal music location
and set it to create folders with artist names and label the sons with only their song titles (%Artist%/%title%)
it took about 2 hours to run through the music and update the id3 tags
then that was all done the completed items go into the right pane of the program.
i selected all of them and hit save.. and boom.. its been pumping out folders for about
2 hours now with just the Artist name and no album folders. the way i like it.
I would recommend if your computer is not top notch do not try to do 10,000+ songs at once... my comp runs about 3grand 32gigs of ram and a quad core4ghz and my computer was boggin at times. also the program stopped responding if i messed with it too much.. i would recommend doing it in batches of 500 or 1000 at a time.
hope this helps someone else.. was super easy
Learning Experience/Story Time:
I was editing an MP3 tag in the stock Music app by pressing "Song Info", I thought everything was fine for a while until I noticed one MP3 file grew from 4.6MB to 29MB. Later I wanted to burn the MP3(s) from my phone to a Compact Disc and so I put them on my computer first, but Windows was freezing up and wouldn't properly read the MP3's info. I booted into Ubuntu to use my MP3 Tag Editor tool (because the one on Windows wouldn't read correctly) and found all the MP3 file I had edited the "Song Info" on were all in CHINESE. After correcting them back to English, the file sizes shrunk back to 4.6MB where it was before and Windows read the Tags correctly again....
If anyone else has this problem, try using a Tag Editor on a Windows or Linux machine to see it that might fix it....
I always use Windows Media Player for editing ID3 tags, but Android handles ID3 tags in a different manner (and in fact it has its own ID3 tags) from PCs, and so i often find tracks with missing ID3 tags in my music library. Through MiXplorer, Music and other apps/players it's possible to modify some of them, but since that i have more than 2060 musical MP3s in my external SD, i don't am motivated enough to modify them all adding missing ID3 tags, so i've accepted this and i made habit to locate wanted music in other ways. But hell, it's a bore! I spend many time editing ID3 tags on my PC in way to have an ordered library by genre, year, artist, album, ecc. and on my phone my library is screwed up!!
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I always use Windows Media Player for editing ID3 tags, but Android handles ID3 tags in a different manner (and in fact it has its own ID3 tags) from PCs, and so i often find tracks with missing ID3 tags in my music library. Through MiXplorer, Music and other apps/players it's possible to modify some of them, but since that i have more than 2060 musical MP3s in my external SD, i don't am motivated enough to modify them all adding missing ID3 tags, so i've accepted this and i made habit to locate wanted music in other ways. But hell, it's a bore! I spend many time editing ID3 tags on my PC in way to have an ordered library by genre, year, artist, album, ecc. and on my phone my library is screwed up!!
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I have a quick question (and maybe I'm imagining things) but when you download music to the 6X, does the stock music app try and add ID3 tags on its own?
Absolutely not, dude. I don't even have a setting regarding this in my stock music app (I'm using Pulsar music player that owns that option, but i always keep settings of this kind deactivated)