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I want to buy this device but it is overpriced here in the uk and t mobile in the usa have it a affordable price. I checked the bands and most uk phones have: 900, 1900 and 2100 for 3g
This one has : 1700 and 2100 for 3g
This concerns me a lot. Can I flash a radio from the original optimistic 2x or something to make it work in the uk? Do you think it will work on 3g out of the box? Some help please.
As you've noted T-Mobile uses non standard frequencies in the states. So, out of the box it's incompatible. As far as flashing an Optimus 2x radio, that appears to be a very bad idea due to file system differences.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've read the answer is no.
According to this:
http://www.wireless.att.com/travelguide/coverage/coverage_details.jsp?CIDL=1305&MNC=CING
uk carriers use 2100 primarily and according to gsmarena the bands this phone supports are:
1700 and 2100 for 3g
Wouldn't it still work out of the box even if it supports 2100 band?
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Also according to this:
http://www.mobileworldlive.com/maps...ma/gb/17016/comb/&layer_id=951&lstCountry=275
Most uk networks use 2100 band as suggested by at&t . The 1700 band is used by t mo for 4g network according to engadget. Any change of opinion now?
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"Band I" is 2100 MHz, which is supported by the G2x and is used all over Europe and Asia.
and according to this http://www.phonearena.com/phones/T-Mobile-G2x_id5272
the G2X supports 2100 UMTS (3G) or am I missing something?
The G2x supports 850/900/1800/1900 MHz for 2G/GPRS only, and supports 3G/4G UMTS/HSPA+ bands I (2100) and IV (1700). The G2x does not support AT&Tâs 3G bands.
G2X spec sheet
http://stadium.weblogsinc.com/engadget/files/T-Mobile_G2x_with_Google_FactSheet_FINAL.pdf
Yes it should work, I'm currently in Europe and my g2x connects to 3G, but of course there is no 4G...I'll be in the UK in a few days in fact
rashad1 said:
Yes it should work, I'm currently in Europe and my g2x connects to 3G, but of course there is no 4G...I'll be in the UK in a few days in fact
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Thanks for confirming
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Thanks to all who corrected me...I was under the impression most of Europe used the same 3G bands as AT&T do here. Stupid US centric assumption...I need to get out more....and keep my mouth shut when I'm not absolutely sure!
Anyway, sorry for my small contribution to internet misinformation...
bdkinney said:
Thanks to all who corrected me...I was under the impression most of Europe used the same 3G bands as AT&T do here. Stupid US centric assumption...I need to get out more....and keep my mouth shut when I'm not absolutely sure!
Anyway, sorry for my small contribution to internet misinformation...
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Both at&t and tmobile phones would be able to get 3g signals outside of the states. I had no problem using my old iphone 3g in Hong Kong,Beijing nor my tmobile blackberry 9700 in Italy.
jdaclutch said:
Both at&t and tmobile phones would be able to get 3g signals outside of the states. I had no problem using my old iphone 3g in Hong Kong,Beijing nor my tmobile blackberry 9700 in Italy.
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Yeah...now that's not quite right. Here's the deal:
Most of the world uses 2100 MHz 3G bidirectionally (for both sending and receiving data). This includes England, China, and Hong Kong.
In the U.S. AT&T uses Both 850 & 1900 MHz (depending on the coverage area) bidirectionally. Not compatible with "world standards". The reason you could use you iphone in China is because it has tri-band 3G. Not all AT&T phones support the 2100 MHz band.
T-Mobile uses 1700 MHz for uploads and 2100 MHz for downloading. However, all their current phones have the ability to use the 2100 MHz band bidirectionally when operating overseas.
So to sum it up T-Mobile phones will do 3G overseas, some AT&T Phones will work overseas, but most phones from overseas won't do 3G here.
I hope that makes things a bit more clear; and I apologize again for confusing T-mobile with AT&T in my earlier post.
Hello...
I just have a quick questions regarding the i9020 and 3G in Europe. This phone has 900, 17000 and 2100 mhz radios. So here in the USA it is meant for T-Mobile.
Will it get 3G in Europe? As far as I know Europe uses 900/2100 MHz for 3g, is that correct? So this phone should be all clear for that?
Thanks
yes, it should work flawlessly...
I'm dying to know, is the Telus version carrier locked? I have a sinking feeling it is, but one can hope, right?
I just bought one this morning. I will let you know when I get it. I unlocked my moto x for $8 and I'm assuming this should be just as easy and cheap to unlock.
my question too, i wanna buy one but use it on wind mobile i was wondering the same thing too.
I bought one today. It's locked (tested with a Rogers sim)
Yes, it is locked.
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unlock service
Cool! Which unlocked service did you use?
leppo said:
I bought one today. It's locked (tested with a Rogers sim)
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Yes, it is locked.
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Did you Buy it from telus or koodo?
avi30na said:
Did you Buy it from telus or koodo?
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Telus... bought outright
leppo said:
Telus... bought outright
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In for more info on unlocking it. I've never owned a Moto android phone, but I have owned Samsung HTC and Sony. I was looking to buy one outright from Telus as well and use it with my existing Rogers SIM... currently an i896 Captivate...
avi30na said:
my question too, i wanna buy one but use it on wind mobile i was wondering the same thing too.
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the g doesn't have AWS/1700 band, so it won't work with wind.
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the g doesn't have AWS/1700 band, so it won't work with wind.
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from Wikipedia
Wind Mobile provides UMTS wireless services with High Speed Packet Access (HSPA) for data, using its license on the UMTS IV frequency band, also known as Advanced Wireless Services (AWS). Using this band, user equipment transmits at 1710â1755 MHz, and receives at 2110â2155 MHz.
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Motorola UK website says the Moto G has UMTS 1700 and 2100.
http://www.motorola.co.uk/consumers/mobile-phones/moto-g-gb.html
Bands/Modes
CDMA: 850/1900 UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
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sporb said:
the g doesn't have AWS/1700 band, so it won't work with wind.
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sunnycheeba said:
from Wikipedia
Motorola UK website says the Moto G has UMTS 1700 and 2100.
http://www.motorola.co.uk/consumers/mobile-phones/moto-g-gb.html
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yeah ickecked too, on paper it should work but then again they r all locked to telus/koodo and looks like no one has unlocked theirs yet
Now that it's confirmed that there are 2 GSM models of this phone, can anybody confirm which one Telus is selling?
http://www.motorola.com/us/shop-all-mobile-phones-1/Moto-G/moto-g-pdp.html
Global GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
US GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 1700 (AWS), 1900 MHz)
If anybody can post the FCC ID, that would help... Or perhaps the sticker on the box lists the available bands?
Faruk88 said:
Now that it's confirmed that there are 2 GSM models of this phone, can anybody confirm which one Telus is selling?
http://www.motorola.com/us/shop-all-mobile-phones-1/Moto-G/moto-g-pdp.html
Global GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
US GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 1700 (AWS), 1900 MHz)
If anybody can post the FCC ID, that would help... Or perhaps the sticker on the box lists the available bands?
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Looking at the UK website for the retail Moto G http://www.motorola.co.uk/consumers/mobile-phones/Moto-G/moto-g-gb.html
It lists the following bands:
Bands/Modes
CDMA: 850/1900
UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
So that's penta-band 3G and EV-DO CDMA!
This may be a mistake and it seems more likely that the version for sale in Europe is actually the quad-band Global GSM model above?
I dropped by at a Telus store today and asked to see the box for a Moto G. The FCC ID on the label was IHDT56PF1.
From the "Exposure Test Report 1" you can see that the WCDMA bands tested were 850 and 1900MHz. (the FCC only tests the bands that are used in the USA): https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...rame=N&application_id=640163&fcc_id=IHDT56PF1
The US GSM version is IHDT56PF2 - differing only in the last digit. The SAR report lists 850, 1700, and 1900MHz: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...rame=N&application_id=836630&fcc_id=IHDT56PF2
So unless some trickery is possible such as flashing the radio ROM of one phone onto the other, the Telus-sold version of the Moto G won't have 1700MHz support out of the box.
The label also had the Industry Canada certification number on it, which was 109O-T56PF1. I searched it on Industry Canada's Radio Equipment List, and got this result:
http://www.ic.gc.ca/app/sitt/reltel...ssionid=0001VktzEWaH7HTarJ9DM_DcqaQ:6LBRFVSML
Edit: Looks like I can't link to a search result, but you can perform the search yourself here: http://www.ic.gc.ca/app/sitt/reltel/srch/nwRdSrch.do?lang=eng
Given that they have the same certification number, it looks like the XT1032 and XT1035 are probably identical hardware. My guess is that the latter will go to another provider like Rogers/Fido.
mik101 said:
In for more info on unlocking it. I've never owned a Moto android phone, but I have owned Samsung HTC and Sony. I was looking to buy one outright from Telus as well and use it with my existing Rogers SIM... currently an i896 Captivate...
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I just got the Moto G from Koodo for my niece to use on her Telus account. Hopefully, it will work without being unlocked.
I just sold a mint i896 to a friend of mine. That phone was awesome and is still heavily supported with the latest CM releases
Moto G versions
Hey Guys
I'm trying to make a list of Moto G versions, so that people can know which ones will work with their provider in Canada or other countries.
Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544708
If you can add your findings in that thread, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks again!
hello!
i ordered the Global GSM version of the moto G will it still work with US carriers?
lamaboy99 said:
hello!
i ordered the Global GSM version of the moto G will it still work with US carriers?
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Yes. I believe the difference is that the US version has the 1700AWS band for T-Mobile. Global has the 2100 band that works better overseas.
Ok thanks I don't have TMobile or one of their subsidiaries anyway and tend to travel over seas in the summer so looks like I made the right choice anyway
US radio specs:
Global GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
US GSM Model:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 1700 (AWS), 1900 MHz)
CDMA Model: CDMA/EVDO Rev A (850, 1900 MHz)
UK Band specs:
HSPA+ DL 21.1Mbps / UL 5.76Mbps- EV-DO Rev.A DL 3.1Mbps / UL 1.8Mbps
Bands/Modes CDMA: 850/1900 UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
Canada, Telus Only
HSPA 850/900/1900/2100 ; GSM 850/900/1800/1900
above information pulled from thread here by no1_cdn here........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544708
i own the uk 8gb version screen capture of preferred list bellow
Thanks for the help guys
I'm thinking of getting the G. I will use it in Germany for 3 wks next year, and use it once (2-3 wks) in Taiwan when I visit my friends and family. I will mostly use it in the US trying out different prepaid plans. I think I'd better get a US version, but is there any chance to get 3G in Europe or Taiwan with a US version?
Thanks.
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miinshiou said:
I'm thinking of getting the G. I will use it in Germany for 3 wks next year, and use it once (2-3 wks) in Taiwan when I visit my friends and family. I will mostly use it in the US trying out different prepaid plans. I think I'd better get a US version, but is there any chance to get 3G in Europe or Taiwan with a US version?
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No with the US version you will NOT get 3G in Europe or Taiwan. You will get 2G however. If you want 3G overseas you need to the global version but you lose T-mobiles AWS band support.
thanks. Is there a phone (moto x, nexus 5, or anything) that support 3G band of all carriers in all regions?
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A thing that I've noticed in the reviews is that the US versions of the phone, the cases (at least the black one) has a "metallic" look on that M on the back while the Global / European version that M it's only glossy.
Just got my US 16gb model yesterday via Amazon. Back cover has a glossy black "M" logo, nothing metallic about it.
Bummer to hear this phone won't do 3G in Europe, I went with the USA model since I just moved over to T-mobile, and a lot of the 3G signal in my area is still on 1700 mhz. My AT&T phone was getting 3G in a lot of areas, but just enough EDGE data to annoy me and make me buy the G.
hi friends,
i am going to US for the business trip and my question is will my international version Nexus 5 (D821) LTE or 3G work in either ATT or Tmobile?
Thanks for any helps.
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hi friends,
i am going to US for the business trip and my question is will my international version Nexus 5 (D821) LTE or 3G work in either ATT or Tmobile?
Thanks for any helps.
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I do not believe you will have any problems with LTE on those networks.
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I do not believe you will have any problems with LTE on those networks.
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The following is the difference between D820 and D821(what i have), so should i go with ATT or Tmobile? i will be staying in LA area.
North America (D820) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
cshih2 said:
The following is the difference between D820 and D821(what i have), so should i go with ATT or Tmobile? i will be staying in LA area.
North America (D820) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
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You will not get LTE from either ATT or Tmobile as the Tmobile uses Band 4 AWS for LTE while ATT mostly uses Band 17 700B+C, Band 2 PCS A-F, Band 4 AWS, and some Band 5 CL850.
WCDMA HSPA+ will be fine. T-mobile runs HSPA+21 while ATT runs HSPA+14.4. Both have a day to day prepaid service that you can use to test them out before you choose.
Sorry, I was wrong. Both AT&T and T-Mobile use Band 4 ( and AT&T has band 17) for LTE. I was mistakenly considering only the network frequencies, which was wrong when considering LTE. You won't get LTE on either carrier with the D821, and can only get DC-HSDPA with T-Mobile.
Sorry for the misinformation.
thanks alot all, so there are two options on tmobile for day to day pre pay, will the $3 option work on my international version N5 (D821)? i only see either 2g or 4g in Tmobile? no 3g in tmobile? i am kind of lost on this. (all i need is faster internet on my N5, whats the best option for me to choose?)
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/pay-by-the-day-cell-phone-plans
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thanks alot all, so there are two options on tmobile for day to day pre pay, will the $3 option work on my international version N5 (D821)? i only see either 2g or 4g in Tmobile? no 3g in tmobile? i am kind of lost on this. (all i need is faster internet on my N5, whats the best option for me to choose?)
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/pay-by-the-day-cell-phone-plans
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T-Mobile's "4G" will include HSPA+ (Upgraded 3g).
Same situatioin !
So happy to find this post !
I have EXACTELY the same "problem"
I do have the Nexus 5 D821 and I'm going to L.A. for one month.
Can you tell me wich solution did you choose and if it worked well for you ?
Also how much do you have to pay for how much Data ?
Thanks so much for your help !!!
I have some friends that went through this when they came to visit the States (also with D821). T-Mobile is your best option. You won't get 4g, but you will get fairly good H+.
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I have some friends that went through this when they came to visit the States (also with D821). T-Mobile is your best option. You won't get 4g, but you will get fairly good H+.
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Great thank you very much for your help !!!
Same thing goes for me. Going to LA area for an internship. I guess I will get a new phone then. I've been advised to choose either AT&T or Verizon.
Can someone confirm?
android.racer said:
Same thing goes for me. Going to LA area for an internship. I guess I will get a new phone then. I've been advised to choose either AT&T or Verizon.
Can someone confirm?
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Yes I can confirm it totally works !!!
Not for the 4G of course but for me it's fast enough with the 3G.
But maybe you'll have to make your APN manually like I had to do.
By the way I find a GREAT carrier, ultra.me
For $39 you can have :
+ Illimited talk & text
+ Illimited international calls and text !!!
+ Illimited Internet (not 4G)
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