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Thunderbolt to New Cricket 4G LTE

There's is now 4G coverage in the Houston area.My thunderbolt is already fully flash 3G and stable. Want to enable 4G on this phone. Cricket says requires sim card to work. The only sim cards are with the new LG and Samsung S3 by cricket. I know this is possible by using a unlocked 4G cdma LTE phone with sim slot. Does anyone have a unlocked phone on 4G cricket successfully working!!!

willowtree001 said:
There's is now 4G coverage in the Houston area.My thunderbolt is already fully flash 3G and stable. Want to enable 4G on this phone. Cricket says requires sim card to work. The only sim cards are with the new LG and Samsung S3 by cricket. I know this is possible by using a unlocked 4G cdma LTE phone with sim slot. Does anyone have a unlocked phone on 4G cricket successfully working!!!
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This is in the wrong thread. Verizon 4g will only work with Verizon. Verizon owns the entire 700mhz band that 4g functions off. This makes it so no other network can use Verizon's 4g
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disconnecktie said:
This is in the wrong thread. Verizon 4g will only work with Verizon. Verizon owns the entire 700mhz band that 4g functions off. This makes it so no other network can use Verizon's 4g
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I dont think this is true as verizon can still lease their spectrum to other carriers like Straight Talk to piggy back off their network. The biggest problem for him is going to get a non-approved 4g device on verizons network. Verizon does not want people taking flagship devices to other discount carriers. Networks like Cricket dont actually own any spectrum, they just lease it from the bigger carriers at a discount. But verizon only allows a select group of ESN's to connect to it, usually for crappier phones. Some people will go so far as to clone their ESN to get it to work, but that requires special tools developed for your phone and can be quite tricky.

RunNgun42 said:
I dont think this is true as verizon can still lease their spectrum to other carriers like Straight Talk to piggy back off their network. The biggest problem for him is going to get a non-approved 4g device on verizons network. Verizon does not want people taking flagship devices to other discount carriers. Networks like Cricket dont actually own any spectrum, they just lease it from the bigger carriers at a discount. But verizon only allows a select group of ESN's to connect to it, usually for crappier phones. Some people will go so far as to clone their ESN to get it to work, but that requires special tools developed for your phone and can be quite tricky.
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Well its pretty obvious that Verizon isn't leasing any part of their lte spectrum since there isn't one single optional carrier that a Verizon 4g phone will work with.
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Is it possible to unlock all GSM bands to but used with Cricket 4G LTE service?
A possible NV Edit is probably all that is required
If I installed any other Sim Card Tmobile for example you get sim card unknown error and no signal
This is being done on other Verizon 4G LTE phones where people doing NV SEEM edits and unlocking all GSM bands. Using with prepaid carriers like Simple Mobile

willowtree001 said:
Is it possible to unlock all GSM bands to but used with Cricket 4G LTE service?
A possible NV Edit is probably all that is required
If I installed any other Sim Card Tmobile for example you get sim card unknown error and no signal
This is being done on other Verizon 4G LTE phones where people doing NV SEEM edits and unlocking all GSM bands. Using with prepaid carriers like Simple Mobile
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So far no one has managed to do this on the thunderbolt. Its not like other 4g phones and is the only one with svdo enabled.
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willowtree001 said:
Is it possible to unlock all GSM bands to but used with Cricket 4G LTE service?
A possible NV Edit is probably all that is required
If I installed any other Sim Card Tmobile for example you get sim card unknown error and no signal
This is being done on other Verizon 4G LTE phones where people doing NV SEEM edits and unlocking all GSM bands. Using with prepaid carriers like Simple Mobile
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Can the bands the radio receives be changed by software? Isn't the radio physically limited to a range of frequencies?
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I was pretty sure that the radio was locked in to stay at the 700mhz spectrum that Verizon owns. I wouldn't be the least but surprised if it were locked in using hardware as well.
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If memory serves, Cricket's LTE is courtesy of Verizon, I read it I think on Engadget a while back... Either way, it goes along with Verizon's Rural Coverage Plan to work with regional carriers to bring LTE to places where people would never expect it.
T-Mo works with AT&T phones because both are 1800Mhz or whatever for EDGE, so I would think if Sprint LTE is 700Mhz....
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jimmyco2008 said:
If memory serves, Cricket's LTE is courtesy of Verizon, I read it I think on Engadget a while back... Either way, it goes along with Verizon's Rural Coverage Plan to work with regional carriers to bring LTE to places where people would never expect it.
T-Mo works with AT&T phones because both are 1800Mhz or whatever for EDGE, so I would think if Sprint LTE is 700Mhz....
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Verizon owns the upper c block of the 700mhz spectrum. Read this.
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=187&p=230
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jimmyco2008 said:
If memory serves, Cricket's LTE is courtesy of Verizon, I read it I think on Engadget a while back... Either way, it goes along with Verizon's Rural Coverage Plan to work with regional carriers to bring LTE to places where people would never expect it.
T-Mo works with AT&T phones because both are 1800Mhz or whatever for EDGE, so I would think if Sprint LTE is 700Mhz....
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I doubt Sprint is using 700 they are probably using spectrum they got from the nextel acquisition (not looking stupid now lol). And of Sprint was using 700 and the had an lte roaming agreement, which they don't, with Verizon..... sprint lte phones would be working in allot more places, which they aren't.
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http://m.networkworld.com/news/2012/012312-lte-spectrum-255122.html?page=2
If the info from the above article is correct you can see Sprint lte is not compatible with Verizon or ATT. In my searching I also found that apple made 3 different variants of the iPhone 5 with different lte frequency combinations.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/09/iphone5-lte-model/
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willowtree001 said:
Is it possible to unlock all GSM bands to but used with Cricket 4G LTE service?
A possible NV Edit is probably all that is required
If I installed any other Sim Card Tmobile for example you get sim card unknown error and no signal
This is being done on other Verizon 4G LTE phones where people doing NV SEEM edits and unlocking all GSM bands. Using with prepaid carriers like Simple Mobile
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those other Verizon 4g Lte phones, like the moto Bionic, have radios and antenna that support those GSM frequencies, and the engineering software tools to perform those tasks have been leaked.
Afaik, but I haven't looked in a while, after making those seem edits it unlocks Gsm/Edge for Att, T-Mobile and global roaming. I think it also enables hspa for Att but not T-Mobile due to frequencies the bionic's radio supports or doesn't support. It does not enable Lte for any other carrier.
its my understanding that the radio chips and antennas in the TB only support Cdma/Evdo and VZW's upper 700mhz block LTE

It also doesnt help that ril for the thunderbolt is closed source because of the svdo capabilities in it.
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Anyone try getting/buying a sim card from cricket?

You would need a SIM for the phone to work at all, right, since it is needed for 3G and 1X on Verizon?
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jimmyco2008 said:
You would need a SIM for the phone to work at all, right, since it is needed for 3G and 1X on Verizon?
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The sim would be needed for 4g to work. Cricket will provide you with a sim but you will still only get 3g because they can't get Verizon's 4g signal.
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But my phone doesn't work at all without a SIM, is it different for cricket?
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I think to use the phone with cricket you will have to have the sim but still won't be able to use 4g.
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Quick Question
"There's is now 4G coverage in the Houston area.My thunderbolt is already fully flash 3G and stable. Want to enable 4G on this phone. Cricket says requires sim card to work. The only sim cards are with the new LG and Samsung S3 by cricket. I know this is possible by using a unlocked 4G cdma LTE phone with sim slot. Does anyone have a unlocked phone on 4G cricket successfully working!!!"
If you don't mind, I was hoping you might be able to tell me how you flashed your thunderbolt to Cricket. I have tried many times unsuccessfully, and to be honest I'm absolutely stuck. I'd appreciate any and all help I can find. Thank you so much Have a wonderful day!
,
Dave

[Q] verizon galaxy s3 on tmobile network help

Hi guys, so my mom has her gs3 on verizon and she bought a sim card for tmobile. We activated it and we get Edge data speed but nothing more. We live in a LTE area with great service but we just have edge. how do i get her data to LTE or HSPA+? Also when entering *#*#4696#*#* i dont get the option to change the LTE/CDMA radio like i use to

The vzw gs3 is not compatible with T-Mobile. Be glad you get edge
Different radios in the devices.
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+1. Edge is all you can get with any non Verizon US carrier.

[Q] Whether does I535 support Tmobile or ATT WCMDA

I just bought a I535, unlokced and rooted. But seems it can't support either ATT or Tmobile WCDMA. Ive set up a correct APN, but it can only work under Edge network.(no signal if I change to WCDMA only) Is there anyone who use Tmobile or ATT? How can I do? ROM 4.1.1 VRBLK3

goldslg said:
I just bought a I535, unlokced and rooted. But seems it can't support either ATT or Tmobile WCDMA. Ive set up a correct APN, but it can only work under Edge network.(no signal if I change to WCDMA only) Is there anyone who use Tmobile or ATT? How can I do? ROM 4.1.1 VRBLK3
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Hey lil buddy, i have probably 6 galaxy s3's one being my i535, and its my most pristine condition Gs3, i use a i747 which is an ATT GS3 as my main phone, all are unlocked, now from what i know about the i535 and i hope im wrong, is since its a CDMA phone, it doesnt support the same bands tmobile and att use for 3g/4g/LTE data, my i747 is on straight talk and works awesome, 2 of my tmobile T999's work awesome aswell, but only get HSPA+, which is 4g, but from what i hear on our i535's we cant get anything above EDGE when running on Tmobile or ATT.....i hope you find a solution cuz if you do please tell me!

Unlocked Galaxy S6 and S6 Edge from other Carriers

Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier

T33H00 said:
Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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My guess is the AT&T and T-Mobile variants don't have CDMA radios.

T33H00 said:
Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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They didn't block the bands. According to pdadb, the 920A and 920T don't have CDMA.

Unlocking att s6
Hi was it easy to get the att version unlocked from a 3rd party website or did you get it unlocked from ATT?

thats why i prefer buying unlocked phones from Amazon and use on any network on my choice. i wonder if this locking phones is cant be investigated for being anti competitive or messing with our rights somehow

zboy2 said:
Hi was it easy to get the att version unlocked from a 3rd party website or did you get it unlocked from ATT?
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musakilimanjaro said:
thats why i prefer buying unlocked phones from Amazon and use on any network on my choice. i wonder if this locking phones is cant be investigated for being anti competitive or messing with our rights somehow
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You guys are confusing "unlocked" terms. There's a carrier unlock and a bootloader unlock. VZW phones are carrier unlocked and work on any network as long as the radio has the proper frequency support. But VZW phones are bootloader locked, meaning you can't flash unsigned packages to the device i..e. no root yet.

S6 att unlock
hi was it easy to get the att s6 unlocked. Thanks.

Mostly correct except root does not necessarily depend on unlocked bootloader, which you somewhat implied by the end of your statement.

I'm thinking about purchasing a unlocked Sprint Galaxy S6 on craigslist and bringing it to Verizon. Does anyone know if this will work?
Thanks
~Tom

I want the S6 but not if the bootloader is locked. I know that Verizon and ATT are the two carriers who will lock the bootloader. I'm not sure if a T-Mobile line would work due to their using GSM rather than CDMA, but doesn't Sprint use CDMA? Would we be able to purchase a Sprint variant that doesn't have a locked bootloader and then use that phone on Verizon?

Would a Vzw version work on GSM carriers including LTE? I am thinking of buying one off contract for the wife, but want it to be able to go to a cheaper prepaid service later once our contract expires.

t mobile phone on Verizon network
Would the T mobile S6 work with Verizon LTE data only? Did you try to surf the Internet?

Will a Verizon S6 work on T-Mobile? LTE as well?

It should work fine but be aware that VZW uses different LTE bands than TMO. VZW uses Bands 13/4 with 13 as Primary and TMO uses primarily Band 4 but will enable band 12 soon.

geoff5093 said:
My guess is the AT&T and T-Mobile variants don't have CDMA radios.
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Well, when carriers started putting up powers that supported LTE, the phone manufacturers were releasing phones that supported CDMA and LTE because LTE wasn't widespread enough to get an LTE signal. CDMA technology will eventually be replaced by LTE. Qualcomm owns all the parents for CDMA, so whenever anyone makes a call using CDMA, QCOM collects their revenue checks, which used to represent 51% of total revenues. It's cheaper for the carriers to run LTE because QCOM doesn't own the entire technology and they won't have to pay the royalties to QCOM for using their technology (kind of like using H.265 vs VP9 for 4K video compression. Royalties using the older H.265 compression maxed out at $5 million a year. H. 265 maxes out at $25 million vs Google's VP9 free open-source technology for video compression.
Once enough towers are up that support LTE, handsets won't come with the availability to use CDMA technology anymore. Next thing we'll see are cable providers putting up hotspot all around the city (I've already seen it with Comcast, but this could really hurt the phone companies since people won't even be using LTE anymore, just like when people had to use much slower data connections in rural areas on their cell phones because they didn't have towers. VOIP will also hurt the carriers.
So, to answer that, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't built to support CDMA anymore. These balloons that just started being launched by Google to provide Internet access to everyone in the world will be interesting to see how functional it is. It would be nice top have a high speed connection anywhere in the world.

Sprint and Verizon uses CDMA while AT&T and T-Mobile uses GSM. So trying to use an unlocked S6 for Verizon won't work since unlocked versions are usually GSM. So nope.

T33H00 said:
Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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I had the exact same problem with my one plus one. I'm 99% certain it's not about the bands being blocked in the phone but about verizon network non-verizon phones. The fact that you can select verizon if you search for a network means the bands are compatible.
Verizon is being evil by blocking the phones. I'm just not sure how (could be that any phone not wishlisted cannot be activated i.e. s13 interface )
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T33H00 said:
Here is confirmation for anyone wonder if the Galaxy S6 unlocked from ATT or Tmoibile will work on Verizon just like the iPhones 6 6+ or Nexus 6
I have both ATT and Tmobile Galaxy S6 in hands, unlocked, inserted Verizon sim card in and there is no signal
However, when I check "About Device" it shows my phone number
Mobile Network Type: LTE
Service State: Out of Service
and LTE came up for a second and never came back on
I think they blocked the LTE bands or so to stop people unlock their phones using on another carrier
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pembertj said:
I'm thinking about purchasing a unlocked Sprint Galaxy S6 on craigslist and bringing it to Verizon. Does anyone know if this will work?
Thanks
~Tom
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99% sure it wont work, see my post above
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Droid_Evo_8 said:
Sprint and Verizon uses CDMA while AT&T and T-Mobile uses GSM. So trying to use an unlocked S6 for Verizon won't work since unlocked versions are usually GSM. So nope.
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Welcome to 2007 or 08...
phone has lte and is trying to connect to an lte network

SDRebel said:
I had the exact same problem with my one plus one. I'm 99% certain it's not about the bands being blocked in the phone but about verizon network non-verizon phones. The fact that you can select verizon if you search for a network means the bands are compatible.
Verizon is being evil by blocking the phones. I'm just not sure how (could be that any phone not wishlisted cannot be activated i.e. s13 interface )
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Problem is Verizon whitelists all IMEIs for phones that they'll "support." Even if you get it working, it 1) doesn't have CDMA, so you can't make calls unless you're strictly in VoLTE areas, and 2) you won't be able to make any plan changes or get a M2M discount since the phone would be a "Non-VZW Device."

SDRebel said:
Welcome to 2007 or 08...
phone has lte and is trying to connect to an lte network
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Oh yeah? Well then, how do you explain how come my Verizon S5 didn't work on T-Mobile when we tried it, huh?

Droid_Evo_8 said:
Sprint and Verizon uses CDMA while AT&T and T-Mobile uses GSM. So trying to use an unlocked S6 for Verizon won't work since unlocked versions are usually GSM. So nope.
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Berzerker7 said:
Problem is Verizon whitelists all IMEIs for phones that they'll "support." Even if you get it working, it 1) doesn't have CDMA, so you can't make calls unless you're strictly in VoLTE areas, and 2) you won't be able to make any plan changes or get a M2M discount since the phone would be a "Non-VZW Device."
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Right, that's been my speculation for a while, but i have no inside info. Whitelisting every device would be a major PITA though...unless they bulk-whitelist then using data from the manufacturers. ..that also doesnt explain why people report being able to bring an iphone 6 or a nexus 6 over from other nwtworks (not sure if rhey have only gotten lte working and not the cdma part)
I do know the cdma functionality wouldn't be available, but tthe discussion was more along the lines of why it attached to lte ans then nothing.
The strange part is that both OP and I saw LTE eveb if for a split second. ..i would expect N attach reject if it's due to the Whitelisting.
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Droid_Evo_8 said:
Oh yeah? Well then, how do you explain how come my Verizon S5 didn't work on T-Mobile when we tried it, huh?
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The most likely reason is that you did something wrong. I have personally used verizon s3, verizon s4 and htc rezound in tmobile and other gsm networks. (I will test my s6 soon for t-mobile and cricket)
it's well known that most verizon lte phones are unlocked and have gsm functionality.
My most logical guess is that you didn't set up something like the APN.
Your anecdotal experience does not a rule make. (most common fallacy i see in real life: it didnt work for me so it doesnt work!)

[Q] Galaxy S6 Verizon on AT&T

Bought a Verizon S6 to use on AT&T.
I setup AT&T's APN settings on the S6 and I have accessed H+ but not 4G LTE.
Can anyone offer any insight?

Most Verizon phones do not get att lte. However I do know the Verizon Droid Turbo, 2nd Gen. Moto CA and Vzw iphone 5s and up gets Att LTE.. .

AT&T SIM on VZW S6
Hello,
I have the same question how AT&T SIM would behave on VZW S6.
1. Which APN Are you using? Are you using phone or pta APN?
2. When receiving incoming calls, does the format look like example: +8085551212 missing 1?
your response is appreciated!!!

istundra said:
Hello,
I have the same question how AT&T SIM would behave on VZW S6.
1. Which APN Are you using? Are you using phone or pta APN?
2. When receiving incoming calls, does the format look like example: +8085551212 missing 1?
your response is appreciated!!!
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I got 4g lte .. I used both settings and when I make calls out it drops to 1x and then when receive calls I have 3G. Seems like the pta settings works better didn't see and h or h+ which. Did on the phone apn settings. I have a Vzw iPhone since I work there thought the s6 would be easy since know the turbo works. There's something missing and can't find it. Everything works I do get the +then the number tho. But haven't had issues sending or receiving texts. Just it should drop to 4g when on the phone and should work whether I get or receive calls. Minor issues happening I did switch it to gsm instead of world that may have been why h or h+ didn't occur with pta. I'll update what I figure out if you all do so as well

i remember seeing it somewhere, but can't find it when i need it, how do i permanently disable the non-verizon sim warning when using any other sim in the vzw gs6?
(i have succeeded on a one time basis by force stopping activation agent, but there's a permanent fix if i'm not mistaken)

Verizon variant doesn't support AT&T's original LTE layer which is Band 17. So you won't see LTE on your Verizon variant unless AT&T has either Band 2 or Band 4 deployed in your market.

At&t LTE worked just fine on Verizon S5. So why not S6?

joe3681 said:
At&t LTE worked just fine on Verizon S5. So why not S6?
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It is a hardware limitation

kenshin123 said:
Bought a Verizon S6 to use on AT&T.
I setup AT&T's APN settings on the S6 and I have accessed H+ but not 4G LTE.
Can anyone offer any insight?
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I think Band 17 is the issue. Most of AT&T LTE is on Band 17.
I am currently connected to LTE (Band 4) on my Verizon G6, using a AT&T sim.
I used the LTE Discovery app to get this info.
milan03 said:
Verizon variant doesn't support AT&T's original LTE layer which is Band 17. So you won't see LTE on your Verizon variant unless AT&T has either Band 2 or Band 4 deployed in your market.
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^^^^Pretty much confirmed what milan03 said.