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oi.
Have found 2 topics on my matter, but none offer a reasonable explanation, so I'm going to ask again in hope of getting one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1084683
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=491350
The later one is only for some G1, so I guess it'd brick my phone, which I do not really feel doing.
So basically my question is:
1. After using Revolutionary to get s-off, will I EVER be able to get back to stock, i.e. S-ON, firmware?
2. Also, if I would use Revolutionary and HTC decides to push out an unlocked bootrom, can I switch to that one afterwards?
3. If the above is true, would some well-experienced user post a guide how to gain factory-like phone ?
This one talks about s-off and s-on. Not sure about switching bootloaders though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192565
Just run an RUU to undo it.
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In that thread are people saying that ruu does not restore warranty i'll wait for htc to officially unlock the device then
Thanks for the insight
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Does anybody have AT&T stock 2.20 nandroid backup? I'm trying to make my phone complete stock for a reason. I cannot flash RUU, because previously I flashed Asian 2.42 RUU, and that's why its not letting me to downgrade even with super cid. Backup would be appreciated if anybody can provide it.
Thanks in advance.
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Nandroid is not going to return you to stock like an RUU would. You would still be rooted and have custom recovery.
What you are asking for would not really have any different result than flashing a stock rooted ROM, so you can do that, if you just want to get the ROM back to stock.
redpoint73 said:
Nandroid is not going to return you to stock like an RUU would. You would still be rooted and have custom recovery.
What you are asking for would not really have any different result than flashing a stock rooted ROM, so you can do that, if you just want to get the ROM back to stock.
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To be more specific, I want complete stock, non rooted, odexed and with AT&T bloatware backup, that some people my have as a backup.
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kaiser347 said:
To be more specific, I want complete stock, non rooted, odexed and with AT&T bloatware backup, that some people my have as a backup.
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No one is going to give you their nandroid, since that would have all their personal settings and Google password.
The 2.20 AT&T RUU should work. Are you sure you've got HTC sync installed?
iElvis said:
No one is going to give you their nandroid, since that would have all their personal settings and Google password.
The 2.20 AT&T RUU should work. Are you sure you've got HTC sync installed?
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I'm not noob, and I pretty sure know how to run RUU. I have all the drivers installed. And currently running JB custom ROM on 2.42 ICS firmware with 1.14 bootloader. I can not run AT&T 2.20 RUU, because I will getting bootloader error. You will have same problem if you run different region RUUs with newer firmware. I don't want personal information. Some people may have clean stock nandroid without any personal stuff.
I had the same problem with my ONE S and there were people who had such nandroids, and they did help me with it.
That's why we call it community. We try to help each other as much as we can.
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kaiser347 said:
I'm not noob, and I pretty sure know how to run RUU. I have all the drivers installed.
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Relax man. He's asking for the easy stuff first, since the best solution is very often the easiest one. Better to ask the seemingly 'obvious' question right off the bat, rather than go down some complicated road needlessly.
Re-installing HTC Sync fixes up the issue for the huge majority of people with RUU errors. Not in your case, as you are correct that trying to run the RUU with a lower hboot version number that what is already installed, will cause it to fail. But he is just trying to be helpful.
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Relax man. He's asking for the easy stuff first, since the best solution is very often the easiest one. Better to ask the seemingly 'obvious' question right off the bat, rather than go down some complicated road needlessly.
Re-installing HTC Sync fixes up the issue for the huge majority of people with RUU errors. Not in your case, as you are correct that trying to run the RUU with a lower hboot version number that what is already installed, will cause it to fail. But he is just trying to be helpful.
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I'm relaxed, thank you for understanding me. The reason for this request is that there might be, and its might be an update from At&t in a future eventually. I'm just trying to be prepared for this, because I can not run 2.20 RUU and the only way to get this future update would be from a system setting. I like clean stock, rooted Rom with all the unneeded apps uninstalled. Once I got the update I can just unlock the bootloader and root it and install insecure kernel along.
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Here is a ruu link, hope it helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
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I didnt't realize 2.42 contained an updated hboot. That would obviously prevent running an earlier ruu. Sorry for the confusion.
iElvis said:
I didnt't realize 2.42 contained an updated hboot. That would obviously prevent running an earlier ruu. Sorry for the confusion.
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It seems hboot is the same 1.14 in both 2.20 and 2.42 RUUs. I think with the latter some other partitions were updated as well, which prevent downgrading.
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DESERT.TECH said:
Here is a ruu link, hope it helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
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Thank you for the link. I do have a RUU. But can not install.
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I bought this phone outright, and I don't like the Telstra network so I put an Optus SIM in. Which works just fine, however I now have an issue which may or may not be related. I have unlocked my bootloader, and have obtained root. I cannot get s-off however, tried all the methods in this forum. And when I try to install a new Rom, such as cm10 and all nightly versions, venom viper, and all other Roms I have tried I cannot get passed the start up logo (or I just get a pure black screen). Yes I have waited and waited for extended periods of time but it won't load. No I'm not new to rooted phones, and have followed all insructions properly. Pls help me, I really hate all the Telstra bloatware on my phone.
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you have to fastboot flash the boot.img when you are s-on
Only problem is I used that stupid one xl one click toolbox for my root. Which has completely stuffed me up.I should have done it the hard way like I did with my incredible s. I just got lazy. Don't suppose you know how to get s-off, without the one click fixes. Unfortunately they arnt working on this phone to acheive s-off
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pretty sure you need supercid to s-off here is the s-off thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155071
and how to get supercid on non att
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2212737
Thank you will give it a try tomorrow.
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your welcome
jerrycoffman45 said:
you have to fastboot flash the boot.img when you are s-on
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Not necessarily. It depends on your hboot version I believe.
I've never had to flash the boot image and I haven't done s-off.
@OP - did you need to s-off for any specific reason? You don't need to do this to flash a custom ROM. It's not required unless you want to reove the tampered text from the boot loader.
It makes life easier to have s-off. Besides I have issues with not having full access to something I have bought outright....lol
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I s-off'd my HOXL because it makes it much safer from my own boneheaded mistakes. If I had done something silly like flashing the OTA RUU then I wouldn't be completely screwed.
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I am having trouble connecting to Wifi since I've started using 4.2.2 roms. There was no trouble when I was using a 4.2.1 rom. My wifi switch will not move to on. When you click it, it says turning on wifi but nothing happens.
I am currently using [Official PACman All-in-1-ROM Ver. 22.0.1[4-3-13] .
I have Hboot 1.14, S-On. Do I need to have S-Off to connect to Wifi?
Thanks
Anybody have an idea of what's wrong? I'm running Rohan's test kernel C
I'm not sure how to fix it, my fiance's phone has the same problem. I can tell you that having s-off won't fix it though, that merely turns security checks off, it's completely unrelated.
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You have to flash boot.img through fast boot
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You probably need to update your firmware to JB. There is a conflict between ICS firmware and the JB base that can cause your wifi to go haywire.
You do need to be s-off first, however, or you may get a brick running the RUU.
Megadoug13 said:
You have to flash boot.img through fast boot
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i always do "fastboot flash boot boot.img", not working.
iElvis said:
You probably need to update your firmware to JB. There is a conflict between ICS firmware and the JB base that can cause your wifi to go haywire.
You do need to be s-off first, however, or you may get a brick running the RUU.
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how can i go about upgrading the firmware?
zooobair said:
how can i go about upgrading the firmware?
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Run the 3.17 (non-US) or 3.18 RUU (AT&T), depending on what phone you've got. You need to be s-off first or you may brick if you are supercid. You'll lose root, but getting it back is just a matter of pushing custom recovery back on and flashing superuser. You'll also need to downgrade your touchscreen firmware to use an AOSP rom; there's a thread in the Original Development forum on how to do it.
I'm not guaranteeing this will solve the problem, but I was having similar issues and this solved it.
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Run the 3.17 (non-US) or 3.18 RUU (AT&T), depending on what phone you've got. You need to be s-off first or you may brick if you are supercid. You'll lose root, but getting it back is just a matter of pushing custom recovery back on and flashing superuser. You'll also need to downgrade your touchscreen firmware to use an AOSP rom; there's a thread in the Original Development forum on how to do it.
I'm not guaranteeing this will solve the problem, but I was having similar issues and this solved it.
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i figured out getting s-off. so after i run the 3.18RUU, do i have to use the following root method?http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2285086? Sorry if I'm asking so many questions, just a little confused.
No. You can just flash recovery after ruu. Then either flash a rom or flash superuser if you want to stay stock rooted.
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Correct, once you're s-off, you can never permanently lose root. No need for any exploits as you'll always have the ability to push a custom recovery back on and flash what you like.
iElvis said:
Correct, once you're s-off, you can never permanently lose root. No need for any exploits as you'll always have the ability to push a custom recovery back on and flash what you like.
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I've been thinking about RUU'ing and starting over. Been having wifi and connection problems in general. Seeing as im s-off, do i need to change my cid back before running the att RUU? I seem to remember there being a conflict when the JB ota came out.
venelar said:
I've been thinking about RUU'ing and starting over. Been having wifi and connection problems in general. Seeing as im s-off, do i need to change my cid back before running the att RUU? I seem to remember there being a conflict when the JB ota came out.
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No need to change cid
Don't need to relock bootloader, change cid or anything else if your phone is s-off, to ruu.
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ronnie498 said:
No need to change cid
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exad said:
Don't need to relock bootloader, change cid or anything else if your phone is s-off, to ruu.
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Word. Weekend project.
Thanks
so i did everything mentioned, put on the 3.18RUU, installed recovery, downgraded the touchscreen firmware, flashed new rom and kernel. still no wifi working. any other ideas guys?
Sounds like a hardware fault to me if the RUU didn't fix it unfortunately.
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I would think so as well, but it is working fine for me if I use 4.2.1 roms. Do you think that's still the case?
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If it's working PERFECTLY on 4.2.1 then I would say it's not a hardware issue. And I'd also say I'm completely stumped as to what's causing your problem.
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Damn. It's definitely working ok on both the 3.18RUU and 4.1.2 rom. Not sure what other measures I can take to try to get it right.
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Which 4.2.2 ROMs have you tried so far?
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Hi, I recently purchased an HTC one X and I get a message with red letters saying "this build is for development purposes only do not distribute outside of htc", also my htc has been ramdomly rebooting, I want to go back to the stock ROM because I think I might have a custom one and that can be the cause of the random rebooting.
I have the 4.1 oficial firmware but I am affraid to flash it because my phone can become a brick.... The phone was rooted with SuperSU but I have uninstalled it and checked with titanium and I can no longer get superuser rights(I suppose I have succesfully unrooted my phone), I have also checked on bootlader and I have S-ON so I dont know if I am under conditions to flash the oficial firmware without risk(I dont want a brik). I want the original firmware because of the upcoming 4.2 and sense 5.0 update HTC will be releasing.
Thanks in advace for your help.
DillingerErick said:
Hi, I recently purchased an HTC one X and I get a message with red letters saying "this build is for development purposes only do not distribute outside of htc", also my htc has been ramdomly rebooting, I want to go back to the stock ROM because I think I might have a custom one and that can be the cause of the random rebooting.
I have the 4.1 oficial firmware but I am affraid to flash it because my phone can become a brick.... The phone was rooted with SuperSU but I have uninstalled it and checked with titanium and I can no longer get superuser rights(I suppose I have succesfully unrooted my phone), I have also checked on bootlader and I have S-ON so I dont know if I am under conditions to flash the oficial firmware without risk(I dont want a brik). I want the original firmware because of the upcoming 4.2 and sense 5.0 update HTC will be releasing.
Thanks in advace for your help.
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Do s-off before you go stock or you will brick
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Really just that?
31ken31 said:
Do s-off before you go stock or you will brick
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Is that all??? with S-OFF there is absolute no risk of briking??
Nonononono there's a tradeoff. Because once you supercid you brick if you ruu while s-on. So you need to s-off so as not to brick while RUUing. Technically because there are no longer security checks you have a greater amount of risk If you do something stupid.
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Just flash a stock rooted Rom would be my advice.. what are you gaining from ruu? Look at cleanrom, it's forsurely the most stable for this phone... Just my 2 cents cause if ya don't know what you're doing or are comfortable using adb odds are is you will booger up your new to you phone..
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sinco54 said:
what are you gaining from ruu? Look at cleanrom, it's forsurely the most stable for this phone...
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Updated firmware that is not part of the ROM. If you read the top post of CleanROM, its recommended to RUU first. Its not "required", but some folks have found it helpful to resolve some issues, like random reboots.
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DillingerErick said:
with S-OFF there is absolute no risk of briking??
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Nothing you do to your phone can remove all risk of bricking when you flash. There is always a risk.
But if you have S-On and SuperCID, and try to install certain OTAs or RUUs, a brick is certain (known brick condition).
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Updated firmware that is not part of the ROM. If you read the top post of CleanROM, its recommended to RUU first. Its not "required", but some folks have found it helpful to resolve some issues, like random reboots.
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Nothing you do to your phone can remove all risk of bricking when you flash. There is always a risk.
But if you have S-On and SuperCID, and try to install certain OTAs or RUUs, a brick is certain (known brick condition).
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2181399
Maybe I'm mis reading it or not seeing where it says ruu is recommended..
If I've missed it my apologies but I hve never ruu'ed and I've flashed every available Rom more then once for this handset since last April...
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sinco54 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2181399
Maybe I'm mis reading it or not seeing where it says ruu is recommended..
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You are confused about what CleanROM is. That is just the stock rooted ROM, not CleanROM.
This is CleanROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1655011
In the top post you will see under Installation: •Highly recomend lates Jellybean firmware and S-Off!
Scrosler doesn't explicitly say "RUU", but this is what he means.
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You are confused about what CleanROM is. That is just the stock rooted ROM, not CleanROM.
This is CleanROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1655011
In the top post you will see under Installation: •Highly recomend lates Jellybean firmware and S-Off!
Scrosler doesn't explicitly say "RUU", but this is what he means.
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Oh ok, I didn't know that's what that meant lol, I thought it meant something entirely different. Thanks for clarifying for not only me but also the opie..
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First TY all for the responses, Is not my first time flashing custom roms but this is my first HTC phone and I am a little confused with all the s-off and ruu stuff
That is my software info and I have S-on, also I have unrooted, the phone had supersu but no more, what else do I have to do and what Rom do you recomend???
I really want to be able to install oficial updates without trouble.
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you are currently on the latest software. I would recommend S-OFF if you plan to take official updates. If you're confused about terminology, there's a thread in my siganture "Are you ready to root?" That explains a lot of the terminology.
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So I just need to s-off for oficial updates is that watt you are saying?? If so how can I s-off??
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There's a sticky in the android original dev section.
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So I just need to s-off for oficial updates is that watt you are saying?? If so how can I s-off??
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If you are S-on and SuperCID (which your phone likely is), and try to take the 3.18 Jellybean OTA, or run the 3.18 RUU, you will brick.
S-off will at least prevent bricking from this particular condition. The other option is change back to the AT&T CID.