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PTV - Free Mobile TV Service

I've been working for some time developing a web-tv service. It started only available for Windows XP/Vista and now it is available on Windows Mobile, Linux and Mac OS X.
In terms of the Windows Mobile version some of the more interesting features are:
- live TV streaming at 128 kbps and 512 kbps (suitable for EDGE/3G/HSDPA/WIFI)
- users can play back content that was aired a maximum of 7 days before
- available for Windows 5/6
- support for VGA devices such as the Diamond Touch
I hope you can enjoy this service.
http://www.pbxtelecom.ro
Setup instructions:
1) Download and install the the right version for your handset by pointing your mobile browser to http://www.pbxtelecom.ro (or alternatively download the CAB to your computer and copy and install it on your handset).
2) Go to Options - Options and choose International in the PBX Network dropdown.
3) Create an account if you already don't have one by going to Options - Options - Options - Create Account.
4) Depending on your location choose the closest Publishing Point to you by going to Options - Options - Options - Refresh Servers and choose a Publishing Point from the dropdown.
5) Choose either broadband or mobile from the Connection Speed dropdown.

doh!
Hello there,
The link to download brings up a download site - I have been able to find the qvga version but no matter what I search, I cannot get the VGA version for ma advantage!
Otherwise I would test it!
Thanks

Does the program support English. I noticed the site does not (as I can not find an option to change language). So just curious as to whether the program has adjustable language or at least a seperated language file where users can make their own conversions?

The VGA version is the last one: http://pbxtelecom.ro/tv/updates/ptv_mobile.htm
SiliconeClone, Windows Mobile and Linux versions are exclusive in English. Windows XP/Vista has a language selector (it pops up the first time you run the application) and defaults to English. Perhaps you are using older versions of the software.
LE: there was a DNS problem that denied the serving of the CAB and sent the user to another project that I am currently working on ( http://www.sharemobile.ro ). Press refresh on the download page and try again. This only occured with some hosts. Sorry for the confusion.

stargatesg1 said:
SiliconeClone, Windows Mobile and Linux versions are exclusive in English. Windows XP/Vista has a language selector (it pops up the first time you run the application) and defaults to English. Perhaps you are using older versions of the software.
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I wasn't using any version. Just wanted to know about English before I downloaded it. Sorry at work and couldn't test it so was trying to get a little more info.
Thanks

Has anyone had a chance to give this a try? I'm far from a programmer or developer and would prefer to not crash my phone. Maybe I'll be a guina pig and try it. If it matters, I'm running Win Mobile 6.1 on my XV6800.

How could you crash your phone by viewing streaming? It's a simple CAB file that installs on your phone - nothing more.

stargatesg1 said:
How could you crash your phone by viewing streaming? It's a simple CAB file that installs on your phone - nothing more.
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It is an application and can mess things up if it has real problems. I'd just prefer to not have to hard reset if there's a serious glitch in the software.

I downloaded and installed it, but I have no idea how to use it lol. What server am I supposed to be logging in to and where do I get a name / pass etc..? I was expecting something oldschool winampish but I think I might have misunderstood what the program is.

Tap 'options', 'PTV options', 'options','create account'.
Enter the details you want to use and you're god to go.
enter your details again in the boxes and select save details and then 'connect'.
You get a list of what appears to be Euro channels, select one and 'connect'. WMP opens and starts to buffer.
That's as far as I got, nothing would play.

I have it working, but I can only find one channel: Realitatea. It's also choppy and buffering a lot. This happens using both EV and Wifi. And it's set to the lowest connection speed.
Where would I get a better channel list? As an FYI, I'm using the Win 6.1 ROM supplied by verizon.

The buffering happens because of the long distance between Romania (where the servers are) and US. We should have the service running in a few weeks in US as well.
TIP: in the mean time you can try viewing the re-runs since they are not live and although it will buffer more in the beginning, the playback should be more smooth. Another tip is to go to WMP and choose 56 kbps connection - forcing the streaming server to stream at 34 kbps (lowest speed).
For those that just want to see it as a demo and don't want to go through the hassle of creating a new account try logging on with username "test" and password "asd".

PBX TV version 1.01 released:
- fixed an issue that prevented the correct launching of WMP
For setup instructions please view the first post of this thread.

[REQUEST] Remote foobar

I would donate money to someone who made a remote app to foobar2000 for android.
Maybe there already is but I've searched a lot and cant find it =(
There is this http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=38114 control.dll wich handles some commands and the connection over tcp/ip.
But the rest I can't do on my own

I also would like a foobar remote. I've done the android tutorials on the sdk website but I'm by no means an experienced developer.
I thought I would base it around the android-vlc-remote interface.
Perhaps a google code project is a good idea?

I have written a remote controller for foobar2000 a while ago. It's not very beautiful, but at least it works. It's not a plugin for foobar though, it's a server program written in Java. It still just has the basic controls, but I'm about to make it good and release it after my exams (in a couple of weeks or so).

Try out foo_httpcontrol. Then there are a few templates that look good on the Android (I use the ones by KEVO).
I can't post a link, but here is the URL, but Google and there is a thread on Hydrogen Audio dot org

tberman333 said:
Try out foo_httpcontrol. Then there are a few templates that look good on the Android (I use the ones by KEVO).
I can't post a link, but here is the URL, but Google and there is a thread on Hydrogen Audio dot org
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i am using that too , but do u have resolution problem, becoz it is designed for G1

beware, shameless self-plug follows:
i've written an app to control foobar2k over wifi. uses the foo_httpcontrol plugin to send commands/get data.
the website is: foodroid.net84.net (has the QR-Code). or simply search for "foodroid" in the market.
please note, if you already have foo-httpcontrol installed: you also need to have the "ajquery" template installed.
if you don't have it installed: i made a setup to install foo-httpcontrol including "ajquery".
it's currently in beta, but pretty useable IMHO.
cheers, bugramovic

bugramovic said:
beware, shameless self-plug follows:
i've written an app to control foobar2k over wifi. uses the foo_httpcontrol plugin to send commands/get data.
the website is: foodroid.net84.net (has the QR-Code). or simply search for "foodroid" in the market.
please note, if you already have foo-httpcontrol installed: you also need to have the "ajquery" template installed.
if you don't have it installed: i made a setup to install foo-httpcontrol including "ajquery".
it's currently in beta, but pretty useable IMHO.
cheers, bugramovic
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Big thx!!! Need cover

Check this out, you might like it.
foobar2000controller.blogspot.com

RemoteTracker for Android -Antitheft software

Hi there,
This software is an Antitheft and you can use it to track your device when it was lost or stolen. It works catching a formated SMS/EMail sent from any phone/computer and then receiving useful informations back.
You can use it to others objectives, like keep your eye in your child. Use your imagination!
You can set up to four emergengy contacts to receive SMS if the thief change your SIM card and you still can track your device.
The RemoteTracker for Android is an evolution from an old project for Windows Mobile 6 (If you want to see the entire history, please click here).
I'm justing starting this project. There are much more to come.
To send a command to RemoteTracker, send a SMS with the syntax: RT#(command)#(phone or e-mail)#(password). Example: RT#EGP#[email protected]#1234. This version answer the commands below:
help - send to you a list of commands available in Android platform;
ehelp - same as 'HELP', but send the list by e-mail;
fhelp - same as 'HELP', but send the list to your FTP server;
gp - try to get GPS coordinates and send back to cel number passed as parameter;
egp - same as 'GP', but send the list by e-mail;
fgp - same as 'GP', but send a file to your FTP server;
gi - Send informations about your phone: IMSI, IMEI and ICCID;
egi - Same as 'GI' but the answer goes by e-mail;
fgi - Same as 'GI' but the answer goes to your FTP server;
cb - your phone will make a Call Back to you. Just make a call and let the microphone open;
cellid - Retrieve informations (CELLID, LAC, MNC and MCC codes) about the tower your phone are connected. Send to you by SMS;
ecellid - same as 'CELLID', but the answer goes by e-mail;
fcellid - same as 'CELLID', but the answer goes to your FTP server;
secret - if you forget your password you can use this command to receive by SMS your personal secret question;
lostpass - used to receive your password if you forgot it. You must send the answer for your secret question, so, you can use the secret command to help you;
Commands available only in PRO version:
PICSON - Makes RemoteTracker (only PRO version) watch for new photos and send them to Default EMail Address;
PICSOFF - Makes RemoteTracker (only PRO version) stop to watch for new photos;
EPICSON - Same as PICSON, but send an E-Mail back;
EPICSOFF - Same as PICSOFF, but send an E-Mail back;
FPICSON - Same as PICSON, but send the answer to FTP server;
FPICSOFF - Same as PICSOFF, but send the answer to FTP server;
PCALLSON - Makes RemoteTracker (only PRO version) takes a photo on a call is receive or made and send it to Default EMail Address;
PCALLSOFF - Makes RemoteTracker (only PRO version) stop to take photos on calls;
EPCALLSON - Same as PCALLSON, but send an E-Mail back;
EPCALLSOFF - Same as PCALLSOFF, but send an E-Mail back;
FPCALLSON - Same as PCALLSON, but send the answer to FTP server;
FPCALLSOFF - Same as PCALLSOFF, but send the answer to FTP server;
WIPEDATA - This command will return your device to factory default and format your SD Card.
There are another features inside RemoteTracker, like:
- SIM CARD change observer;
- Automatically restore your preferences if you reinstall it. This feature is particular useful if you have a custom ROM with RemoteTracker inside. Once configured, everytime your devices boots up, your preferences will be restored;
- Works as Device Admin, so it can't be uninstalled if you don't know the password;
- And more...
This project can be multi-language. In this version there is only English (sorry about it, my english is very bad because this is not my mother language). If you want to make your own translate, I can tell how. Very simple.
If you decide to try RemoteTracker, I would like to read reviews, comments and suggestions. Remember this is a beta version and may contain bugs. Use at your own risk and with caution.
--> It is a work in progress. In future versions I will make a lot more.
Support this project
You can support this project making a donation clicking here or clicking the banners in the project website: http://remotetracker.sourceforge.net
All the best,
Joubert Vasconcelos

Hello friends!
To test RemoteTracker please download it from here:
http://remotetracker.sourceforge.net/RemoteTracker.apk
Before your tests, please turn on the Debug option. It will make RemoteTracker write the remotetracker.txt file in the root of your memory card.
All the best,
Joubert

I just released the second beta!!!
Now, RemoteTracker can automatically turn on the Mobile and WiFi network to try get location and send EMails!
For older phones RemoteTracker also will automatically turn on the GPS! Unfortunately this is impossible if you are using new Android versions (2.3.x or so).
A few minor bugs was fixed.
All the best,
Joubert

joubertvasc said:
For older phones RemoteTracker also will automatically turn on the GPS! Unfortunately this is impossible if you are using new Android versions (2.3.x or so).
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GPS can be enabled in 2.3+ - but only if device is rooted. That's what it says in the Cerberus entry in "AppStore" [edit: AndroidMarket].

Hi!
Yes, if you have a rooted device is very easy to enable GPS remotely. But I do not recommend in any way for users to root the phones for security reasons.
I think you are talking about Market, not AppStore We are talking about Android not Apple
All the best,
Joubert

New beta 0.3!!!
Hello again,
I just released version 0.3. Now we got FTP answers back!
In Configurations I added a session to input your FTP server details. The example commands GI and GP now works with FGI and FGP as well.
Once again minor bugs was fixed. If you want to try please download the APK here: http://remotetracker.sourceforge.net/RemoteTracker.apk
As soon as possible I'll make a TODO list and a Road Map.
All the best,
Joubert

Copying my post form the old thread so I can subscribe to this one:
Wow, nice to see this make it to Android.
Some suggestions,
1: Name it something that isn't obvious in the market. Don't want a thief easily finding it in the installed apps list. Going to the market and then buying "my apps" shows you exactly what's installed. So you should name it something totally different that nobody would suspect or want to remove. Like "memory maximizer" or something like that. Probably want to keep it in the middle of the alphabet so it's not at the top or bottom of the list.
2: Maybe make a way to remotely monitor the front/rear camera. Then you could get the thief on video (and also see if it's a crowd, or some huge guy you don't want to mess with, lol).
I'll try to help test when I get another phone and more time. Right now I don't have a lot of time to work out bugs. And more importantly I only have the 1 phone, and I can't afford to have it malfunctioning (I need it for work). I'll buy a used extra phone for testing and then I'll help test.

Thank's!
Be sure I'm worry about the Name I'll post on Market. Not now. I'm trying to make it working and I'll see what I can do later.
About cameras, yes, I think we can control them. At least take pictures and send to an e-mail account. To remotely monitor the cameras, may be I need a server to receive/transmit stream. Of course this is in my todo list
All the best,
Joubert

joubertvasc said:
Thank's!
Be sure I'm worry about the Name I'll post on Market. Not now. I'm trying to make it working and I'll see what I can do later.
About cameras, yes, I think we can control them. At least take pictures and send to an e-mail account. To remotely monitor the cameras, may be I need a server to receive/transmit stream. Of course this is in my todo list
All the best,
Joubert
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I would rather set up my own server (or even directly stream peer to peer from the device). That way you don't get stuck with hosting fees and the app doesn't die if you decide to stop supporting it someday (not that you would).

There are many possibilities. I'll try all of them.
All the best
Joubert

Another beta
Hi all,
I release another beta. Once again, if you decide to try it, please download from http://remotetracker.sourceforge.net/RemoteTracker.apk.
I edited the first post to add new features. And I have a notice...
I created a free and pro versions. The free version will have the most common commands we had in Windows Mobile. Only specific commands for Windows Mobile I can't write for Android. Pro version will have new features to come (I don't know yet).
But I don't want to charge my friends, so, if you are a beta tester or help me with anything, I'll give the PRO version for free. But it's for future now I'm engaged to finish RemoteTracker free as best as I can do.
All the best,
Joubert

Possible Bugs
Hi Joubert,
Thank you for have been developing so useful application. I believe everyone here is excited about what you are doing.
I tried your better version and here what I have to say:
1) You stated that the command format is RT#EGP#[email protected]#1234, but what if I want to use command to upload that info to FTP? Then,theoretically, I don't need to indicate my email or phone in the command. At the same time commands like "RT#FGP#1234{this is a password}", "RT#FGP##1234{this is a password}" are not recognized as valid RT commands or even failed with fatal exception. How can I upload this info to FTP, what should be the format of the command in this case?Indicating an email inside the command or phone number when sending to FTP seems a kind of redundancy.
2) Once an Fatal error appeared, it started appearing for each further VALID command which were working before. Error states the following:
Fatal error: Call to a member function query() on non-object in /celerra/webstor/root.dev/usr/sms core.php on line 234, most likely there it has some null reference there.
3) In the log file I see that its trying to send messages to invalid address substituting "@" at "?". Does it mean it sends to correct address but it writes to the logs incorrectly or is it really a bug? Because I don't receive any emails at all.For example, when sending RT#EGI#[email protected]#De41Be02AF in the logs I see that it mentioned it sent the message to "test?test.ru" instead of "[email protected]"
This is it for now. I can try to help you out with programming. I have no experience in Android development but have been developing in C# for 7+ years.
Again thanks for you effort.

ser-j said:
Hi Joubert,
Thank you for have been developing so useful application. I believe everyone here is excited about what you are doing.
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I'm stuck right now. I can not go ahead because I'm not finding some answers. But soon I return to search. Very good to know there are people wainting my work to be done, because there are lots of good programs in Google Market (now Google Play).
ser-j said:
I tried your better version and here what I have to say:
1) You stated that the command format is RT#EGP#[email protected]#1234, but what if I want to use command to upload that info to FTP? Then,theoretically, I don't need to indicate my email or phone in the command. At the same time commands like "RT#FGP#1234{this is a password}", "RT#FGP##1234{this is a password}" are not recognized as valid RT commands or even failed with fatal exception. How can I upload this info to FTP, what should be the format of the command in this case?Indicating an email inside the command or phone number when sending to FTP seems a kind of redundancy.
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You should use: rt#fgp##1234 The double # are still necessary. I'm working on a simpler syntax to be used in final version.
I'm worried about fatal errors. That's why I released beta versions. Please use Configurations Menu and check the Debug Options. After that you will see in the root of your memory card a file named remotetracker.txt. Send that file to me please.
ser-j said:
2) Once an Fatal error appeared, it started appearing for each further VALID command which were working before. Error states the following:
Fatal error: Call to a member function query() on non-object in /celerra/webstor/root.dev/usr/sms core.php on line 234, most likely there it has some null reference there.
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I really don't know what is this. Please send the log file to me. I wrote RemoteTracker for Android in Java, not PHP!!!
ser-j said:
3) In the log file I see that its trying to send messages to invalid address substituting "@" at "?". Does it mean it sends to correct address but it writes to the logs incorrectly or is it really a bug? Because I don't receive any emails at all.For example, when sending RT#EGI#[email protected]#De41Be02AF in the logs I see that it mentioned it sent the message to "test?test.ru" instead of "[email protected]"
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Are you sending the command using another phone, the same phone or using some WEB service (like your carrier website)? There is no code to change '@' to '?'.
ser-j said:
This is it for now. I can try to help you out with programming. I have no experience in Android development but have been developing in C# for 7+ years.
Again thanks for you effort.
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Thank you very much for your tests. I need that! There are lots of Androids around the world and make something secure for everyone will be a journey.
All the best,
Joubert

Notices
I almost finished writing the commands that existed in RemoteTracker for Windows Mobile (at least the ones Android can execute).
But I'm still trying to make the security of RemoteTracker to be more robust. I had Features in Windows I can't write for Android yet:
- Prompt for password when uninstalling;
- Lock / Unlock the unit with the LOCK / UNLOCK commands;
I'm not able to use the camera without the need to provide a preview to the user. According to the source code of Android that is impossible, but I saw some programs doing that, so there is a way to do that and I'm looking for this information.
If anyone knows how please help me
All the best,
Joubert

Answers to the questions
Hi Joubert,
Sorry for being silent for so long.
joubertvasc said:
Are you sending the command using another phone, the same phone or using some WEB service (like your carrier website)? There is no code to change '@' to '?'.
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I am using Web service of my sim provider to send SMS. Didn't have a chance to try with sending SMS from the phone.
joubertvasc said:
Thank you very much for your tests. I need that! There are lots of Androids around the world and make something secure for everyone will be a journey.
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Yes, you are right.
As to the log file I will send it to you shortly.

Thank you. I'll wait for your log to see details. You can send it directly to my e-mail.
All the best,
Joubert

Hide Remote Tracker Application
Hi Joubertvasc:
Are you planing to make a feature to hide the Remote Tracker from the drawer and from any place of the phone. Like with the Theft Aware; you can access the application by dialing from the Phone Dialer. You enter your four code number then hit call. This will open the apllication without calling the number.
Regards;
Willie

Sounds good. I will take a look about how to do that.
Thank you.

Hi!
After a long time I'm back with a new version. This one has lots of bug fixes:
http://remotetracker.sourceforge.net/RemoteTracker.apk
My problem now is Android 3.1 and later, because they don't intercept messages all the time. They need human access the configuration module once to work. Security issue Google said... I'm trying to find an exit.
Best regards,
Joubert

G'day mate.
Long time no see. Great work on this app so far.
I've finally gotten around to installing it and play around with it a little.
I'm testing this on HTC One X with Revolution HD ROM
Here are a few ideas and tips for you to incorporate into your next version.
1. Include an option that allows users to set how many replies to get back from your software.
For Example. If I were to use #RT#GPS#1234, it currently only sends 1 reply. The problem with this is that most GPS units are accurate withing 5 - 10 meters. I tested it on myself where I am and it picks me up as being 2 houses down. If there was an option to send me 3 replies, in 60 second intervals, at least I would get the average GPS location of the phone. If your phone is stolen, it would also be a good idea to have unlimited SMS replies with 60 second intervals so I can get real time minute by minute location on where my phone is. Maybe this might be an idea for your Pro version. Have the option for how many replies to get and also an option for interval time between each reply.
2. Another idea for Pro version. Hide the RemoteTracker Icon from the Apps menu, or disguise it as a useless setting so if a thief were to look in the Apps menu, they wouldn't see it straight away, so wouldn't be forced to reset the ROM. Most thieves aren't smart enough to reset the phone as soon as they steal it, They normally wait till they get home..... but if he saw a tracking program, it would make them either turn the phone off right away, or reset the ROM right away.
3. I dont know much about Android programming, but an idea for capturing the Camera is to embed the photo into an MMS, or as an attachment in an email. Trying to muck around with FTP would be a waste of time because the average user wont have an FTP server, and you dont want to set up a central one because it would give every noob hacker a target to try and get into.
I will keep playing around and get back to you with any other problems or ideas for you.
Keep up the great work.
Loved the software on WinMo and looks like the Android version will be just as great.

[Jbed] Adapt Mobile Jar files for Touch input

mohammadN said:
In the name of Allah
hi there,
Jbed an app to running java mid-let on Android device.
installation:
download Jbed.apk from attachment and install it.
if last section not working for you,
download Jbed.zip and flash it with CWM!
I created a signed flash-able package for easy install it!
Tested on my wildfire and 100% working!
you can press on Thanks button and download it from attachment.
you can flash this package on all clockworkmod recovery version (2 and 3 and 4)
enjoy!
Note :
It isn't my own app!
please read my post carefully!
I only created Flashable package to easy to install this app for all
sorry for my bad English!
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some screenshot from a java app!
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In the name of Allah, God and who is called Yahweh by the Jews, as written in Mark 3:35 and said by Jesus Christ "For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother."
Hello brethen, after reading through the thread some people can not use your program due to the phone structure not having certain buttons. I then remembered a program I came across long ago, when I sinned in the past, stole, illegally downloaded java mobile games and used KEmulator Lite 0.9.8 to play them (Some games didn't work so I was thinking about getting a Java Phone and something that could change screen resolution of certain phones).
The program is called Java Adapter for Mobile 2.2 and works on Windows XP.
It was this that I remembered that the program could adapt Jar games that use numpad only to take input from touchscreen phones.
Download Link for Java Adapter for Mobile 2.2
Google Mediafire gizxiznnwrx or Java Adapter for Mobile 2.2
10 post rule
In fact I was playing around with the and remember seeing this, but I can't remember what I wrote a while ago...I log in and then I get logged out while making this post...I should copy before posting...Oh yeah this good for Android touchscreens that don't have numpads, keyboards or left/right keys.
This is a picture of configuring the touchscreen.
Google 2mcwtmr-500x500.jpg
...Sadly though I myself can not use this program because I don't have a computer with admin rights, but keep up your works
(Please build this into the app though also cause most phones are 320px by 480px, use the 260px left for an onscreen touch d-pad or numpad and also allow keyboard configure/input...also I've seen your homepage which allows me to choose Jbed for a certain OS, but I can't find it, Please post that unless Jbed works on all Android OSs)

I haven't Tested this
I haven't tested this so don't know whether it works or not, but if anyone test Java Adapter for Mobile, have mods stick it at the top or something that let it standout. Also possibly post what you adapted

[BETA] RT Desktop Store (moved from RT General forum, NOT Subvert)

(got enough posts so I could move this thread here)
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(didn't habe the brains to come up with a nice name like "Subvert", if you have something good in mind, tell me, but I still would be glad to merge with toxickills project, even if it's only for the cool name )
Screenshots
Program Download Links:
RT Desktop Store Installer
Features
50 apps packaged
install/uninstall packages
all items on the startpage get shuffled
tile creation
start apps directly from the store
Todo
sometimes uninstalled packages are still displayed as installed (restarting the store currently fixes this)
tile management (delete, check for already existant tile)
add store tile to the start screen
add screenshots to existing packages
pack the remaining packages
distributed repositories
package/installation updates
and much more - if you have ideas, tell me
How can you help?
If you would like to help me with the packages until I release the package manager: send me screenshots from the packaged applications available in the store, as this is hard for me to do (I don't even use every application myself).
Here are some criteria for screenshots I would like you to check before sending them to me:
make the size exactly 1366x768 or 683x384, so that they don't scale bad in the screenshots control
If the app can't run fullscreen or maximized window, its always nice to have the pc property window in the background showing the Windows RT logo text
you can also make only screenshots from the application window itself and place them on a canvas complying to point 1., maybe applying a nice dropshadow
don't edit the screenshots in any other way, let them look natural
and if you can: screenshot them in a productive/properly used scenario, that's always the best to see
Mail adress should be viewable in my profile, just sent it there, or if you have mailbox space issues, sent me a link to the screenshot(s), Thanks!
Further information:
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Hey guys, so i have been sitting some hours and tried to take up what djboo (thread) had no time to continue on.
I've build a little RT Desktop Store based on his idea on getting a repository to present packages and let you download them via a custom store client.
If you are confused: No this is not the store called "Subvert" build by Toxickill, which he posted on this thread.
So what's the reason for this "duplicate" ? Well i wrote my own store during the same time Toxickill did, but when i released my first screenshots, i saw he had released his first beta only a few hours earlier. We used the same UI Framework it seems, so our applications even look similar. I wrote him asking what to do, if we could work together, etc. because it would be dumb not to use our resources together, to make this work for you even better. But since he hasn't been answering my PM and I don't have the permission to post in his development thread as of yet, I thought i could at least release what i have build so far, let you review it and maybe even Toxickill will notice me And if not? Well i don't mind doing this alone since I already spent all this time doing it this way, and im so glad of being able to give back something to the community (This is my first ever publicly released application!). If you like my store (or don't like it), please comment so that I can make it better
And while I'm on the road, i can as well earn my 10+ posts, so that i can post in the development threads
If you are interested in working together: i have setup a TFS on my server which we can use for working on this project.
Ok now for the application.
Concept
Basically, it's the same concept djboo originally pointed out: have a repository with packages, let a store client download, unpack and install them. So far so good.
I've gone a bit further and tried to make the client look & feel like the normal windows store app (still a lot to be done, but it really looks alike).
The current repository is hosted on my server. While i have plans to release my the package creator too, i will first release the client, because the package creator is not that, erm, user friendly right now. In fact i have, because of my store client design, divided packaging and the repository, because the basic packages that can be build contain more that what is needed to simply install the application. After building a package you can add it to a repository (using a repository manager) which then will unwrap all that is only needed for the store client presentation of the package (tile images, screenshots, etc.) and present the rest of the package as downloadable file for the store client.
If you want to see it, here is a screenshot from my package builder application that I will release once all the applications available have been packaged and added to my repository (thinking of a simple package creation service that spawns new guids, so that ppl creating packages for the same application will get the same application guid to prevent presentation of duplicate entries by the store client)
Installation & Files
First and foremost: you need to jailbreak your device (Windows 8.0 only, hopefully 8.1 will follow soon)
To install the store client, simply download and run this Installer from my server.
The store client will get installed under your Program Files folder, creating a new Folder named "RT Desktop Store". Installation consists of 2 steps:
The Installer downloads and then and runs the launcher for the store client
The Launcher downloads the latest store client files and starts the RT Desktop store (this will happen every time you start the store client)
Packages that you install from the store will not be installed under your Program Files folder, but a Folder called "Program Files (RTDS)" (same parent directory as your Program Files folder). This is for not confusing the packages installed from the store with any existing applications in your Program Files folder. Uninstallers for all all installed packages will be held in the "__storepackages" folder of your RT Desktop Store installation directory (like C:\Program Files\RT Desktop Store\__storepackages).
If you install an app, the store client will also create a Tile on your start screen, using the command line interface of OblyTile - if a tile is supported by the package. If no tile is specified by the package, the application will start after installation, so that you can at least pin it directly to your task bar. Unfortunately, programmatic removal of tiles via OblyTile is not possible as of yet, so you would need to unpin them yourself. The same goes for checking of already existing tiles. The same tile will just get created a gain. But the will most likely be pointing to the same file, so just delete all but one of the tiles.
Shortcuts
As long as i dont release a proper installer that creates shortcuts, start menu entries and/or a live tile, you will have to pin the store client yourself. I recommend you to create a shortcut to "RTDStore.exe", not "RTDStore.Launcher.exe", because the launcher application may get renamed during an update process. That aside, it doesn't matter if you run the launcher or the store client directly, the launcher will be called either way to check for updates.
Packages
I have yet to package every application that has been ported already, but i got roughly 1/3 of them already packaged (they may not all include screenshots, tiles etc, but that will follow this week, along with the remaining ported apps i think.
Finally
Have fun and i hope everything works well. If you experience any errors, please comment here or sent me a PM, so that i can fix them and let the new versions get pushed to you by my launcher as soon as possible
Disclaimer
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NICE WORK BRO!!!
Question) after installing an app though your store, could we specify the desktop-shortcut-Icon in your package Manager? (Im asking this because some of my Projects use a cmd file to start the app, and the Icon is pretty boring)[subvert has NOT this Feature]
Cheers
Blade
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Just tested it. it Looks AWESOME
Notes:
-No Settings available (how to add own repo-URLs?)
-We Need your Package-Manager
Improvements:
-small visual bugs while going through. Perhaps you can include a "wait-till-loaded"-function, this will solve all visual bugs and make it all soo much smoother
-Possible to add "touch-scrolling"? that would be soo cool, if we dont Need to use the scrollbar at the bottom and are able to also scroll via dragging in the middle...just like the real store
(also the scrolling brings visual bugs while moving. Bug disappear on stopping...)
I think this has got a HUGE potential! Please Keep it up the good work.

BIade said:
NICE WORK BRO!!!
Question) after installing an app though your store, could we specify the desktop-shortcut-Icon in your package Manager? (Im asking this because some of my Projects use a cmd file to start the app, and the Icon is pretty boring)[subvert has NOT this Feature]
Cheers
Blade
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Hi Blade! (Cheers from Cologne)
If I understand you correctly, you use some kind of launcher for some of your programs, which in turn starts your program (i guess you mean something like ClassicStartMenu, where you need to restart the explorer after launching the start menu, because otherwise it won't show up in the taskbar). And because of this, you pin, of course, your launcher to the desktop instead of the program that's getting started - makes sense. In my package manager you can specify a list of applications that are included in the package and, as of now, a small and normal sized tile for OblyTile to generate the start screen tile for each application. I guess i could extend this to support desktop shortcuts, but would have to look into the windows shortcut file format (.lnk) - which I had planned anyway, because I need more control over the created tiles than simply creating them, and they're essentially .lnk files, too. Currently you can put a launcher in the package and run it via the tile that will get created for it - I will show you how that works once I've released the package manager.
BIade said:
EDIT:
Just tested it. it Looks AWESOME
Notes:
-No Settings available (how to add own repo-URLs?)
-We Need your Package-Manager
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As I've written in my todo-list above, distributed repositories are yet to come, I just have to find a way to make the packages unique - maybe by providing a packaging service for the package manager, that spawns a GUID for a given application name, so that the same package doesn't get listed twice in the store. But that in turn would create a new problem: how do you decide from where to get a package? As there is no real server behind an application that could work as some kind of load balancer. I would display a message from which hosting the package is being retrieved upon installation, but rather not show them as separate repositories in the store. But I think it would be reasonable to give the user the opportunity to select from which repository to get the package if he wants to install it - if a package is broken, or not available on the repository automatically selected by the store.
But furthermore, what about a package where someone includes a nice launcher and someone else doesn't? Need to think about it.
Today I will try to get over with packaging most of the remaining apps. After that's done, I will take up getting the package manager ready to release accompanied by a distributed repository mechanism, as those two go hand in hand.
BIade said:
Improvements:
-small visual bugs while going through. Perhaps you can include a "wait-till-loaded"-function, this will solve all visual bugs and make it all soo much smoother
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Yeah I did most of it with the new async-feature of C#, for the smaller installations that works perfectly, but larger ones make the application hang - that was to be expected because async just executes on the GUI thread too, just does lazy evaluation. I already moved a part of the installation to background threads, but will move the whole thing. And the last few days were just dirty hacking, so i don't have a centralized installation overview as of yet, that's why the installation messages start bugging once you switch to another app page.
BIade said:
-Possible to add "touch-scrolling"? that would be soo cool, if we dont Need to use the scrollbar at the bottom and are able to also scroll via dragging in the middle...just like the real store
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I guess that's somehow possible, just wasn't on the top of my list.
BIade said:
(also the scrolling brings visual bugs while moving. Bug disappear on stopping...)
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I daresay that's an issue with the not-so-lightning-fast ARM processor, as this runs perfectly fine on my desktop pc. Surely GDI+ related, but i guess there is something that can be done for some smooth animation.
BIade said:
I think this has got a HUGE potential! Please Keep it up the good work.
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Thank you very much!

Cheers back from Cologne
For the repos:
Adding a Settings-tab with a list of repos, where only your repo is listened, but where users can add/delete custom repos.
For the "not duplicated" and the "from whom" problem:
Custom-repos could get their own tab like:
[Available(perhaps rename it to "Main") | Custom1 | Custom2 | Installed | Settings]
And Custom-Titles could been set in settings to make it look like:
[Main Apps | Blade's Apps | xda-Apps | Installed | Settings]
Totally off topic:
On the 12.12 I write an important exam in the uni. But after that I would like to meet you for a coffee, if you want. Since we both live in cologne, perhaps we can share some ideas or/and learn something from each other. I would love to help you with your store, and perhaps i got some cool stuff for you:
(ps3-hacking, Android-app-development, Micro-controller-programming, home-automation, and many many more....)

Your idea for the different repositories is quite nice, I will implement this soon, as it will be quite easy I think. But for the long run I will still be looking for a more integrated solution.
Offtopic too:
Sure why not! Just PM me the details of the approximate when and where and we'll go for it You can also write your PM in german

Hit the 50 packages mark! Hurray!
And ~160 RT Desktop Store Downloads!
If you would like to help me with the packages until I release the package manager: send me screenshots from the packaged applications available in the store, as this is hard for me to do (I don't even use every application myself). Here are some criteria for screenshots I would like you to check before sending them to me:
make the size exactly 1366x768 or 683x384, so that they don't scale bad in the screenshots control
If the app can't run fullscreen or maximized window, its always nice to have the pc property window in the background showing the Windows RT logo text
you can also make only screenshots from the application window itself and place them on a canvas complying to point 1., maybe applying a nice dropshadow
don't edit the screenshots in any other way, let them look natural
and if you can: screenshot them in a productive/properly used scenario, that's always the best to see
Mail adress should be viewable in my profile, just sent it there, or if you have mailbox space issues, sent me a link to the screenshot(s), Thanks!

Hi
Tried to install it today but cannot.
My device is nokia lumia 2520
Before installation i did jailbreak, looks done well.
When im trying install desktop store getting info there is it not possible, please visit market etc.8

wojtas29 said:
My device is nokia lumia 2520
Before installation i did jailbreak, looks done well.
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You didnt do the jailbreak then. the jailbreak works on RT 8.0 only, it does not function on 8.1 and the lumia 2520 comes pre loaded with 8.1.

wojtas29 said:
Hi
Tried to install it today but cannot.
My device is nokia lumia 2520
Before installation i did jailbreak, looks done well.
When im trying install desktop store getting info there is it not possible, please visit market etc.8
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Just as SixSixSevenSeven mentioned: if you didn't downgrade your lumia to Windows 8.0 (don't know if it's possible), it won't work. Maybe you ran the jailbreak, but it failed for sure. If not, this would be breaking news for Myriachan and the others xD

Short update:
I'm currently working an a packaging modification. I'll package the apps directly as .appx files using the windows store package builder shipped with visual studio. Toxickill told me, that despite this, the Original Windows store won't install the packages directly, so I'll be building an appx installer afterwards. And if we ever get the Windows Store to install our custom .appx packages without a custom installer, we will already have the correct package format Furthermore, the windows store package format is quite convenient regarding structure of package information and files. And in any case better than me trying to reinvent the package-format-wheel.
For the store client/repositoriy, the packages will be wrapped with additionaly info (images and other stuff, and I'm modifying my package builder to be a combination of the visual studio built-in package manifest editor and the devcenter web page for publishing windows store apps (some of you may know what I'm talking about, the others will just get to see the new package builder in a few days^^). This way, ppl can create packages of ported apps, without needing their own repository to publish it, but send it to someone hosting a package repository, who can simple import the package, which then gets unwrapped and put into the repository, presenting it's information to the store client.
In my opinion, microsoft has done some nice work, streamlining the app creation and publishing process for the windows store. And by trying to comply to their application, packaging, redistribution standards, I hope we may be able to get something out of them regarding jailbreak and such, making them see, that, if correctly managed, desktop apps are not lowering the user experience on windows rt at all, but are an enrichment instead

Fasin said:
if you didn't downgrade your lumia to Windows 8.0 (don't know if it's possible)
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It isn't possible unfortunately :/

SixSixSevenSeven said:
It isn't possible unfortunately :/
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That's rather unfortunate :/ Then the only hope for you, wojtas29, is the next jailbreak...

Just to let you know, I'm not dead yet Sadly I don't get as much time as I would like to. I'll package some more apps when I have some spare minutes at work this week and hopefully I will get a huge step done with the package manager this weekend, so that you can use it. Bear with me

Yeah!
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not installing on surface rt
I don't if your still working on this project or not but I need your help!!
I can't install this app on surface rt 8.1 jailbreak.
when I want to run this app it sez "this app can't run on your pc to find apps on this pc, open the windows store."
and then I tried to open it using the x86 emulator and then the notepad opened. at the last line it seas :
[ 6500]E: Error loading program: 1168
(I don't known if this in the emulator error or D.stores error.
helllllp!!!!

Dead horse LoL
Anyway, I did get the installer to launch after signing the file using the 'signtool', however it looks like the dependencies aren't available (probably dead server). Stuck at 'Downloading Launcher' ... 0/0B
Windows 8.1 Jailbroke.
Happily, the 2017 community edition of Visual Studio still let's us compile apps as 'Any CPU', so at least I can still build stuff.

brandoncomputer said:
Dead horse LoL
Anyway, I did get the installer to launch after signing the file using the 'signtool', however it looks like the dependencies aren't available (probably dead server). Stuck at 'Downloading Launcher' ... 0/0B
Windows 8.1 Jailbroke.
Happily, the 2017 community edition of Visual Studio still let's us compile apps as 'Any CPU', so at least I can still build stuff.
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hey did you get it to work Im having the same problem .

trying this in 2019 on my surface RT Win8.1 jailbreak with no luck. Is the app dead?

frayes said:
trying this in 2019 on my surface RT Win8.1 jailbreak with no luck. Is the app dead?
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Yes

frayes said:
trying this in 2019 on my surface RT Win8.1 jailbreak with no luck. Is the app dead?
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It says it can only work on Windows 8.0, not 8.1. Did you also try that? I want to try this on my RT too but I am reading into the downgrade first.