Hi guys, I'm interested in this device but I'm planning using some widgets and some heavy RAM apps like FB and Skype, can you tell me if 1GB RAM is enough of are you getting some closes in the launcher or other apps?
Ty in advance
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For what you want to run you need one of those 100GB phones.
Its so annoying that all of us with a 1GB phone can't run any of those popular apps without our phones exploding.
Keep coming those toughs guys!
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It's enough, and if it isn't make a few changes and you'll be alright. The Moto G has incredibly quick onboard storage, like 100MB read 30MB write, there's very little slow downs.
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the title says enough...is there a way to achieve that much free space? sometimes i want to play a game what needs more RAM...but i only have 200 mb± with the latest coredroid...it is really dissapointing...:\
turkish-soldier said:
the title says enough...is there a way to achieve that much free space? sometimes i want to play a game what needs more RAM...but i only have 200 mb± with the latest coredroid...it is really dissapointing...:\
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Don't worry the games will be fine, Android will free up resources for processes that require it. And the status bar task manager(HTC) and settings show different amounts of RAM. In settings the value is significantly higher, seems a lot of apps are cached in RAM. Anyway you can still play those games and not worry.
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Don't worry the games will be fine, Android will free up resources for processes that require it. And the status bar task manager(HTC) and settings show different amounts of RAM. In settings the value is significantly higher, seems a lot of apps are cached in RAM. Anyway you can still play those games and not worry.
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Ok,but what you answered wasn't the answer what i want,i mean when i check it with es task manager i see only 200mb of free space....on my rooted dhd i have 360(!!)mb of free space...i just do not know why there is such a big difference while sensation is new...
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turkish-soldier said:
Ok,but what you answered wasn't the answer what i want,i mean when i check it with es task manager i see only 200mb of free space....on my rooted dhd i have 360(!!)mb of free space...i just do not know why there is such a big difference while sensation is new...
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Are you referring to internal memory or actual ram? If ram the sensation has qhd making sense use more ram. You can use supercharger v6 to change minfree values for more ram. And if you really mean internal mem, you can uninstall some apps or clear caches. Dhd and sensation have same amount of storage allocated to data partition.
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On a completely clean install with noa pps installed you'll only get 250MB free RAM - you'll never see 450MB free with a Sense-based ROM. End of
It's not necessary. If the game needs more memory, Android will free up the memory for it when the game is running. Keeping 450MB memory free all the time is highly inefficient use of the available memory. That basically means that 450MB memory is kept from being used. People really should stop obsess with large "free memory" number on Android.
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Are you referring to internal memory or actual ram? If ram the sensation has qhd making sense use more ram. You can use supercharger v6 to change minfree values for more ram. And if you really mean internal mem, you can uninstall some apps or clear caches. Dhd and sensation have same amount of storage allocated to data partition.
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I was referring to Ram,i will try supercharger v6(don't know what it is will give it a try ) no i am talking about the ram...not the internal storage for aps
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It's not necessary. If the game needs more memory, Android will free up the memory for it when the game is running. Keeping 450MB memory free all the time is highly inefficient use of the available memory. That basically means that 450MB memory is kept from being used. People really should stop obsess with large "free memory" number on Android.
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Ok thank you very much,this is what i wanted to know,
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well you might not get exactly 450mb free.
but i think in the developers forum, there is a custom rom you can port to your rooted phone that doesnt include the HTC sense and some apps to free up some space for you.
You deff won't get 450mb free even with an asop rom.
Like everyone else said, android does a pretty good job at memory management and clear memory when apps need more.
A lot of RAM is reserved for HW drivers first, then Android reserves some, an some processes are cached and then there's your free RAM which is less 300MB>Senny, but I use Supercharger MOD and get avg of 200MB on homescreen(w/ a lot widgets).
Ever since I upgraded to ICS, RAM consumption is high in my atrix2. It used to have free RAM around 300 to 350 MB but now in ICS the fee RAM is always around 150 to 200 MB.
I am having same apps which I used to have on GB. Nothing changed on my phone. Can anybody advice me whats wrong with my phone?
Ex. Games like Temple Run are little bit sluggish in ICS whereas it was running smoothly in GB even though I had some apps in the background. Now in ICS it is sluggish even though there no other apps running in the background.
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asdf20 said:
Ever since I upgraded to ICS, RAM consumption is high in my atrix2. It used to have free RAM around 300 to 350 MB but now in ICS the fee RAM is always around 150 to 200 MB.
I am having same apps which I used to have on GB. Nothing changed on my phone. Can anybody advice me whats wrong with my phone?
Ex. Games like Temple Run are little bit sluggish in ICS whereas it was running smoothly in GB even though I had some apps in the background. Now in ICS it is sluggish even though there no other apps running in the background.
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ics certainly consumes more ram..nothing wrong with your phone..i have not experienced any game lag
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devilhunter47 said:
ics certainly consumes more ram..nothing wrong with your phone..i have not experienced any game lag
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We used to have task manager in GB but that's now vanished in ICS.
Can you suggest me any good task manager?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1882626
[Q] ICS update eating up the RAM
Please read, and search.
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Apex_Strider said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1882626
[Q] ICS update eating up the RAM
Please read, and search.
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Thanks but that does not provide me any solution.... it just explains the reason for more RAM consumption... I am currently facing lags in games...any suggestion?
Also can you suggest me any good task manager?
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asdf20 said:
Thanks but that does not provide me any solution.... it just explains the reason for more RAM consumption... I am currently facing lags in games...any suggestion?
Also can you suggest me any good task manager?
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Android has its own task manager, which is quite sufficient. What people don't seem to understand about RAM, is that it is meant to be used, not the other way around. Android, like Mac OS and Ubuntu, wants to use all the RAM it can, because that's how it was designed to work. There are settings (in Android we call them "minfree" settings) to tell the system how much RAM to leave free and available, but the rest is designed to fill up as fast as possible and stay that way.
Android can manage memory rather well (and the settings are still there to tweak if you just have to touch stuff) and having up to 300 percent more RAM makes a huge difference. There will be a few times where killing off a handful of tasks will speed things up, but overall you'll get the best performance out of your phone or tablet if you stop worrying about it and let Android be Android. If you need to live on the edge (and I know a lot of you guys do) root and hack your phone with some amazing custom ROM that has everything tweaked and allows you to travel forward in time -- I'm right there with ya, 'cause it's fun as hell.
But don't worry about how many apps are running on your phone, or about using widgets that tell you these things, because it just doesn't matter anymore.
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Long press home button, it will appear. Swipe to close apps.
Try with debugging mode enabled along with force GPU rendering from settings...
Task managers/killers are completely useless in android.The only use of task killers is when a rogue app keeps running in background consuming lots of CPU cycles.
After the ics update my phone too was a bit slow but then I factory reset it & then wiped the cache partition. I don't know what did the trick but it works great now.
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Go to development, background applications, at most 4.
This way lag will stop.
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What are you guys doing to improve Ram usage/management?
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Not touching it and accepting that this phone is gimped and that Samsung is bad at programming.
Sounds like what I'm gonna have to do...
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Short of AOSP or a non touchwiz-based ROM, there is nothing we can do but tinker with minfree values. Android's RAM management is excellent, and the biggest problem we have is Samsung's bloated stock apps and modifications. There is a reason they are putting 2gb of memory on their phones while others are content with 1gb.
Running Tweaked 3 helps. When my phone was stock I was lucky to have 40 or 50 MB of ram free. With Tweaked I usually have 60 to 80. If it gets too low reboot your phone. After a reboot it usually has close to 100 MB free. It's just like a computer. The longer it's on the more ram it uses.
I've developed a habit of going straight to task manager and clear ram before using apps and stuff. Usually I start at 80-95ish mb.
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When I was on the custom kernels I had nothing but problems with ram. I came to rely on Gemini task killer widget. Now that I'm on tweaked 3 with stock kernel, all of that has gone away and I rarely need to use it.
I'm not sure where the post is on xda but someone asked a similar question and I went on a rant on all the things I had tried in the past
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The hardest lesson of all
chefthomas99 said:
What are you guys doing to improve Ram usage/management?
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This was the biggest "lesson learned" for me that's applicable to any phone I buy from now until I die.
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Basically you have a choice. You either except the bloatware from Samsung and Verizon and not install additional apps.
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You root the phone and get rid of the bloatware.
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However with the OTA updates the phone has got a lot snappier. I still stick with what I said above. From now on whenever I buy a phone I will check the run time memory and how much of it is being used out of the box. Samsung and Verizon should be ashamed of themselves.
I heard a software called ram expander...can anyone tell me what's that and how does it works?
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AW: Ram expander
it creates a swap file.
they claim that it will not loose performance with high end cards. i tried creating a swap file with an older tablet and a friends phone some time ago(manually) i was not expecting much and wasn't suprised. hm the tablet hat 256mb ram(good old days) with android 1.6 and the phone 512mb. perhaps it is really better with high performance sd cards but the throughout put of ram should be still a lot higher.
A swap partition is used to take some stuff from the ram memory to the sd card,
It will always lag your phone except gor the apps you set which will have moar ram
No matter how fast your sd card is, it will never work for everyday usage, only for gaming
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Thank you mat and bohm..I was thinking to use it for everyday usage but not now
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hotboyburnz said:
Thank you mat and bohm..I was thinking to use it for everyday usage but not now
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If your device has little amount of RAM you can surely use it..
I can't wait for a CM rom to come for this rom. There's so much junk on this rom I have so much unnecessary stuff running in the background. So 3gig ram and 2.8 is constantly used up. WTF. Battery doesn't even last more than a day. Metadata doesn't work. Friggin annoying.
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You'd prefer to have 1GB free ram and lags?
Err there shouldn't be 2.9GB constantly used up... mine uses about 1.3GB avg most of the time less, I'd look into why you're running so much all the time, cause that's not right.
More ram used = faster response for the apps in ram. So if more ram is used means the os is doing its job.
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Mines using 1.4gb with 1gb free. .. That's what it says. ..
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138 apps, 2gb RAM in use, still fast as hell (Nova Launcher). You Do know that RAM Management on Android is not comparable with RAM Management on windows, right?
Please search before creating a new thread.
There is a Buyer's remorse... thread here.
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