Awful charger for the Sony SW (1st gen) - Sony Smartwatch

The charger lead for the 1st gen Sony SmartWatch is dreadful! Barely makes contact unless you physically squeeze the watch and the back-clip together. I'm guessing there's no better alternative, due to the fact it's a non-standard connector, but thought I'd ask??

Same for me but they had changed the design in smartwatch 2 because of awful design in first version. I have the same problem while charging.
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biker750 said:
Same for me but they had changed the design in smartwatch 2 because of awful design in first version. I have the same problem while charging.
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It's rubbish isn't it!
Thing is, I don't use it enough to warrant upgrading to the Smartwatch 2 - which I'm aware uses a standard micro-USB port - as I only use it when I go running which is very rare, so like I said no point me upgrading.
Just frustrates me how flimsy the connection is, it never gets a proper charge because of it.

alex_ncfc said:
The charger lead for the 1st gen Sony SmartWatch is dreadful! Barely makes contact unless you physically squeeze the watch and the back-clip together. I'm guessing there's no better alternative, due to the fact it's a non-standard connector, but thought I'd ask??
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You can solve it by rubbing the hole gently with some none sharp metal. No need to squeeze your watch so hard. It will charging normally.

There was in this forum explained a way to make the charger as mini usb but I'm not able to found it now :S
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alex_ncfc said:
The charger lead for the 1st gen Sony SmartWatch is dreadful! Barely makes contact unless you physically squeeze the watch and the back-clip together. I'm guessing there's no better alternative, due to the fact it's a non-standard connector, but thought I'd ask??
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I clip a clothespin on it when I charge it. It's not pretty, but it's simple and it works.

I also have the Smartwatch mn2 and the charging connection is not very good. You can say what you like about the Live View but at least it uses a micro USB connection.
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Switch between USB and ac charge

I am installing a tab 2 7 as a permanent fixture to my car dashboard. I would like to charge the tablet in ac mode when the ignition is on and, trickle (USB) charge while the ignition is off.
As well as saving my car battery, this will also be my trigger for tasker to activate / deactivate the display.
My question is this, if I use a relay to short the two data pins on the USB cable will this switch to ac charge mode.
An alternative may be to use a standard Car charger and use a relay to break the continuity in the middle cores when the ignition is off
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KrisPerry said:
I am installing a tab 2 7 as a permanent fixture to my car dashboard. I would like to charge the tablet in ac mode when the ignition is on and, trickle (USB) charge while the ignition is off.
As well as saving my car battery, this will also be my trigger for tasker to activate / deactivate the display.
My question is this, if I use a relay to short the two data pins on the USB cable will this switch to ac charge mode.
An alternative may be to use a standard Car charger and use a relay to break the continuity in the middle cores when the ignition is off
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OK I'm guessing no one has tried this yet. I have ordered the parts and will post my findings in due course
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27443722&postcount=4
This may help you.
bark777 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27443722&postcount=4
This may help you.
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Yeah thanks I had already read this, although it is still unclear what is actually going on
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I'm going to be attempting the same thing with a Droid X I'm using as a DVR in my car. Any updates? According to this, once AC charging is initiated, removing the short will not revert the charging mode back to the lower rate without interrupting the connection.
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I'm going to be attempting the same thing with a Droid X I'm using as a DVR in my car. Any updates? According to this, once AC charging is initiated, removing the short will not revert the charging mode back to the lower rate without interrupting the connection.
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I haven't had a chance to look at it yet. But this sounds like it may put a spanner in the works. I may have to rethink
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KrisPerry said:
I haven't had a chance to look at it yet. But this sounds like it may put a spanner in the works. I may have to rethink
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I'm still waiting on the boat from China for my parts, but had an idea in the meantime. Perhaps a second relay to simply interrupt the +5V wire (and a capacitor to add even more of a delay?) would do the trick. I'm no EE, but it seems like this may do the trick.
MasterTactician said:
I'm still waiting on the boat from China for my parts, but had an idea in the meantime. Perhaps a second relay to simply interrupt the +5V wire (and a capacitor to add even more of a delay?) would do the trick. I'm no EE, but it seems like this may do the trick.
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The basic principal doesn't work anyway. No matter if the d cores are disconnected
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My new plan is to switch in a resistor to trick the Tablet into thinking it's docked. Then use this to trigger events in tasker
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KrisPerry said:
My new plan is to switch in a resistor to trick the Tablet into thinking it's docked. Then use this to trigger events in tasker
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@KrisPerry - Can you elaborate more on how to accomplish this with the Galaxy Tab 2? I have seen threads on how to do this for the S2/S3 with the micro USB connector, but nothing for the the Galaxy Tab 2. I would be very interested if this works for you.
Cheers!
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@KrisPerry - Can you elaborate more on how to accomplish this with the Galaxy Tab 2? I have seen threads on how to do this for the S2/S3 with the micro USB connector, but nothing for the the Galaxy Tab 2. I would be very interested if this works for you.
Cheers!
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Ok first I ordered the breakout board from http://www.podgizmo.com. this allows components to be soldered directly to the relevant pins.
I simply used a 33 and a 10ohm resistor to give approx 7.5 ohm resistance. When the ignition is started a relay switches the resistance across the deviceID pin. The Tablet then thinks it has been car docked and subsequently runs a specific tasker profile
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Ok first I ordered the breakout board from podgizmo. this allows components to be soldered directly to the relevant pins.
I simply used a 33 and a 10ohm resistor to give approx 7.5 ohm resistance. When the ignition is started a relay switches the resistance across the deviceID pin. The Tablet then thinks it has been car docked and subsequently runs a specific tasker profile
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@KrisPerry - Brilliant, this is exactly what I have been looking for. Do you already have this working? Just to confirm, is the deviceID pin you reference pin 13 (ACCESSORY_ID)?
I'd love to learn more about your setup if you have it documented somewhere (I didn't find anything on XDA).
Cheers!
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@KrisPerry - Brilliant, this is exactly what I have been looking for. Do you already have this working? Just to confirm, is the deviceID pin you reference pin 13 (ACCESSORY_ID)?
I'd love to learn more about your setup if you have it documented somewhere (I didn't find anything on XDA).
Cheers!
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Correct, between pin 13 and ground. I have it working on the bench. Next step is to test in the car before installation. I'll maybe document the whole process once completed
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Update so far.
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How to make DIY charging dock

First of all sorry for my bad english
The things that you need to fabricate charging dock are as follows:
1) Old CD case
2) Old sony ericsson data cable
3) Some fast glue
1) Disassemble CD case in order to use only the back side
2) From data cable remove plastic fixing legs
3) Mesure with the phone and mark the correct position of the cable ( the picture of the cable should be upwards)
4) Using some fast glue bond the connector to de CD case and voalla the dock is ready
And hese are the pictures. Maybe tomorrow i will make it like stand but for now is working ok for night charging
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Yeah, nice work!
Did you see this topic ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38501016
There are other DIY charging systems.
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Now, I will adapt this for car holder !
TurboKan said:
Now, I will adapt this for car holder !
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Share the result after that
There is already a thread to share these. Let's keep them in one place.
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There is already a thread to share these. Let's keep them in one place.
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Ok if possible delete my tread i will continue posting in another
It works! But, what's the voltage? Isn't it low?
Why would the voltage be low? USB is a standarized port so there's no difference between chargers when it comes to voltage.
The other thing is the current that varies from 500mA (USB 2.0 port) and 900mA (3.0 port) up to 3mA. The current depends on the charger not the cable.
I tried making this and the charging time takes a long time. I am gaining about 10% per hour. Is this normal?
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I tried making this and the charging time takes a long time. I am gaining about 10% per hour. Is this normal?
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Depends. Which charger do y use, more precisely how many amps does it output? Maybe you contact surfaces are to small. A pic would be welcome
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I don't think the charger has any effect, I believe the pins are set up to draw a maximum of 1A, probably due to it being a dock, it wants to "slow" charge.
As for it taking a long time, I found that the cable had a huge effect, switching to a better cable made it charge correctly.
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I am using the stock charger. It would probably be the contact point. I don't want to scrach my XZ so I didn't push it all the way down. I'll try again when I get home
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I don't think the charger has any effect, I believe the pins are set up to draw a maximum of 1A, probably due to it being a dock, it wants to "slow" charge.
As for it taking a long time, I found that the cable had a huge effect, switching to a better cable made it charge correctly.
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Ah, correct, wiring, to small section causes more energy loss. So taking a thicker wire isn't l luxury. But standard usb wire should work.(I used a Sony Ericsson fastport data wire)
Could also be the soldering, if it isn't sold properly you get bad contracts.
I'm using a 750mA charge ( from the x10) and it never takes so long to charge even over my custom system running a sleep taking app over night.
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Do anyone know the model number or name of the old ericsson cable?
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Do anyone know the model number or name of the old ericsson cable?
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The connector was called FastPort, so look for something like FastPort usb data wire
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naphets8 said:
The connector was called FastPort, so look for something like FastPort usb data wire
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I think it's sony dcu-60 am I right?.
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I think it's sony dcu-60 am I right?.
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Can't tell you from scratch. Wanna say Google is your friend.
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Does anyone have any ideas because I found an old DIY speaker and I was wondering if anyone had ideas for a dock in which it could be used.
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I wanted the same dock+speaker end result so I ended up using my BT speaker and using tasker (but can use smart connect) to auto on BT when docked which it then reconnects to speaker when in range then turns BT off when undocked. Obviously totally different than wjatbtou have to work with but I already had the speaker so it cost me nothing to do.
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Does anyone have any ideas because I found an old DIY speaker and I was wondering if anyone had ideas for a dock in which it could be used.
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Hi, I would go with something like the attachment. Using a sbh20(or similar) for wireless sound transmission. Speaker on the side. ( if you thing is stereo, one on each side), and the phone in landscape mode on a inclined surface with the pins on the bottom.
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iBOLT Dock'n Play Samsung cable now available as stand alone product

Hello all XDA friends! Finally, the 9ft microUSB-to-aux-out cable is available as a stand alone product. There has been tons of requests for this as many of you already have a phone holder in the car and you only need the cable so you can play music/gps sound (app sound) through the car-speakers. The microUSB end plugs into the phone phone and it will charge the battery when the standard USB end is plugged into a car-charger or into the vehicle's USB port (although some USB ports have slow charging rate!).
We've also seen a huge interest in using this cable together with a home stereo or with the "old boom box". Very cool application is to connect the Galaxy phone to a boom-box and put the handset into the beach bag (9ft is a loooong cable!).
When you inserted the cable the "DockMode" will start. Download an app like the iBOLT Dock'n Drive and mange your favorite apps this way. You can also set Slacker Radio, TuneIn or Ulysee Speedomter or CarHome Ultra as default "home screen". Note that you can also set WiFi and Bluetooth to go on or off automatically when handset is connected to the cable.
This new version of the "Dock'n Play" cable should be static free and will provide great sound quality. Feel free to use this thread to ask any questions about Samsung DockMode, aux-out etc. The developer for CarHome Ultra and Ulysee Speedomter can also chime in and answer questions if there's a need. Have fun!
The price is $19.95 and it's available for Amazon Prime for a few days (only a few hundred in stock).
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009PN6APM
I want to buy the iBolt dock itself. Does this cable come with it?
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le0.br4zuc4 said:
I want to buy the iBolt dock itself. Does this cable come with it?
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Yes, if you buy the xProDock this cable comes with the Dock. However, if you buy the sPro or the ProDock it does not come with the holder. We have a lot of people wanting this as they either don't want to use a holder/dock in the car or they already have something else that works well.
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Yes, if you buy the xProDock this cable comes with the Dock. However, if you buy the sPro or the ProDock it does not come with the holder. We have a lot of people wanting this as they either don't want to use a holder/dock in the car or they already have something else that works well.
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The xProDock I see on amazon (prime) says is comes with a usb cable and it has a picture of a regular usb cable.
I want to buy the dock because I know I will be able to use with my and my wife's phone but I want to make sure I get this cable too
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You guys should check out in-depth review of iBolt xPro Dock I just posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2349447
This one is universal Samsung dock for S3, S4, and Note 2. Bar none - the best car dock and the best value with cable already included. New Dock'n'Drive free app is slick as hell, and I tested it to work great with S4!
be careful !
I have a 2amp charger but with the iBolt cable, my phone charging to 0.720 amp -_-'
Do you have any available for Canadian buyers
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nico3838 said:
be careful !
I have a 2amp charger but with the iBolt cable, my phone charging to 0.720 amp -_-'
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Are you talking about original Sammy 2A charger or some ebay $4 charger that claims to be 2A while in reality current limited to under 1A (and thus due to losses and conversion efficiency down to 720 mA)?
I have a cheap charger for 5€ but with simple USB cable : 1.9amp.
With iBolt cable (for car mode and audio out) just 0.7amp
Tested with Galaxy charging current
In other thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42633527&postcount=44
Confirmed, I'm getting crap charging rates , I'm so disappointed
no shipping to UK? I think I'll make my own one, 9ft is a bit too long for me and I can also use quality components to cut down on interference and lowered charging rates.
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no shipping to UK? I think I'll make my own one, 9ft is a bit too long for me and I can also use quality components to cut down on interference and lowered charging rates.
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Would like to see what you build. Pictures please.
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I'd been emailing the company about this for a few weeks when I first heard they were going to launch the standalone cable and they never got back to me. I guess this is why. Disappointing!
nico3838 said:
I have a cheap charger for 5€ but with simple USB cable : 1.9amp.
With iBolt cable (for car mode and audio out) just 0.7amp
Tested with Galaxy charging current
In other thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42633527&postcount=44
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Look guys, stock Sammy firmware limits charging in smartdock mode to .7A. If that is unnaceptable, run a custom kernel like Perseus or Devil and you can up it to 1.7A.
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I cannot get audio from my GS4 out using this cable... is there anything I am missing?
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Did you enable it in your Accessory settings?
le0.br4zuc4 said:
I cannot get audio from my GS4 out using this cable... is there anything I am missing?
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Anyone know how to enable dock mode on the i9505G? I don't have an accessories menu so I'm thinking I'm screwed.
the dock isn't well made.. if you live anywhere that gets hot, the suction cup vibrates on bumps when hot.. its cheaply made for a 40$ product in my opinion..
I have no complaints with the quality of the dock. I live in south Florida where it's crazy hot now and my car stays all day long outside. I have no problems with the dock losing suction at all
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I'm getting a ground loop buzz with this. Anyone else?

Power/usb cable

just a simple question( I hope) but can you use a usb cable from ipad/iphones to charge the tab 2 as they seem to have same connection?
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lohtse said:
just a simple question( I hope) but can you use a usb cable from ipad/iphones to charge the tab 2 as they seem to have same connection?
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I asked the salesman that question when I bought mine last year and he told me no. I've never tried though
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I've physically with my eyes seen 2 people do it, but I've never tried it myself.
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Hmmmmmm interesting
Yesterday I was watching the chargers of the ipad and the tab and the connector and is exactly the same, the only detail is that the metal connectors of both are inverted.
what do you mean by inverted
lohtse said:
just a simple question( I hope) but can you use a usb cable from ipad/iphones to charge the tab 2 as they seem to have same connection?
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The simple answer is NO. Connectors are different, both electrically and physically. Sammy pinout can be found here. Google for Apple pinout, I have it in ElectroDroid on my phone, but don't have a link...
Painman1963 said:
I asked the salesman that question when I bought mine last year and he told me no. I've never tried though
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Sometimes sales people actually know what they are talking about. This is one of those times.
veritasaequita said:
I've physically with my eyes seen 2 people do it, but I've never tried it myself.
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I won't comment on what you saw, but let me say I am having a hard time believing that (that's a politically correct version). You can't fit an Apple 30-pin connector into a Samsung tablet without damaging either a cable, or a socket. And even if you somehow manage to hammer it in, the leads are totally different, both for charging and data signals.
Bottom line: a pretty stupid idea, don't do it.

Loose USB-C cables are correct, to a degree

This has been bugging me for a few weeks now and I've been getting rather upset at the thought of returning my phone thinking there is something wrong with the charge port. Every (all three of mine) USB-C cable eventually slides down off the port just enough to make it kind of loose or wobbly. But there's good news, apparently it is designed that way to prevent what is called a 'friction fit'...
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/phone-by-google/a4nlyABPKJ0
This could be a cop-out too, I've had some USB mini cables that were less than stellar. As for now though, it's comforting thinking it was made that way.
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404 error on the link.
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Thanks man. Try this.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/phone-by-google/a4nlyABPKJ0
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Thanks man. Try this.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/phone-by-google/a4nlyABPKJ0
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That one works, thanks.
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cptkian said:
This has been bugging me for a few weeks now and I've been getting rather upset at the thought of returning my phone thinking there is something wrong with the charge port. Every (all three of mine) USB-C cable eventually slides down off the port just enough to make it kind of loose or wobbly. But there's good news, apparently it is designed that way to prevent what is called a 'friction fit'...
https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/phone-by-google/a4nlyABPKJ0
This could be a cop-out too, I've had some USB mini cables that were less than stellar. As for now though, it's comforting thinking it was made that way.
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You might not be pushing the cable in all the way. You slide it in to the end, then push it a little bit more. It should have a bit of a "click" when it latches in, and sit fairly firmly.

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