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[Q] Is it necessary to charge the phone for 24 hours?

Hi, I'm getting a Nexus 5 today, and by some reason, everyone in my country (sales person) recommends to charge a new phone for 24 hours to "maximize" the numbers of hours that the phone's battery will last after this initial charge, however, I've always find that theory not so logical, could you tell me if this actually works, or a simple full charge would do the job? Thank you, I appreciate the help!

I suppose that would be true if it were 1998 when all phones had NiCd batteries. Charge and go my friend and figure out what your friends are smokin' (sounds like some high grade stuff).
good day.

chopper the dog said:
I suppose that would be true if it were 1998 when all phones had NiCd batteries. Charge and go my friend and figure out what your friends are smokin' (sounds like some high grade stuff).
good day.
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Haha, thanks! I will give it a regular full charge then!

Yea, it no longer matters at all. Charge whenever you are near power. Even if its only for a few %, it makes no difference. The days where you have to condition a battery by charging it to the top and then letting it drain all the way are over. Now you charge whenever you can and it makes absolutely no difference.

muyoso said:
Yea, it no longer matters at all. Charge whenever you are near power. Even if its only for a few %, it makes no difference. The days where you have to condition a battery by charging it to the top and then letting it drain all the way are over. Now you charge whenever you can and it makes absolutely no difference.
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Thank you, it's good to know that I'll do it that way!

best battery option without adding bulk

I was wondering if anyone can recommend to me a good extended battery that doesn't add bulk or the requirement of a special backplate to the s4?
I don't seem to have as much success as most people here on the phone with battery life, and if i'm lucky I make it to 3 hrs screen on time on each battery (I carry around spare batteries but this is still annoying).
Appreciate the recommendations

theraker007 said:
I was wondering if anyone can recommend to me a good extended battery that doesn't add bulk or the requirement of a special backplate to the s4?
I don't seem to have as much success as most people here on the phone with battery life, and if i'm lucky I make it to 3 hrs screen on time on each battery (I carry around spare batteries but this is still annoying).
Appreciate the recommendations
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I don't believe there are any options for extended battery without bulk. You could do the zerolemon 3000 mah batteries. You get two of those and then you could always have a spare battery ready to swap when the other one dies. Other than that, you're going to add bulk if you want an extended battery.

Bl00dRunzC0ld said:
I don't believe there are any options for extended battery without bulk. You could do the zerolemon 3000 mah batteries. You get two of those and then you could always have a spare battery ready to swap when the other one dies. Other than that, you're going to add bulk if you want an extended battery.
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I have the zerolemon 3000mah I stream media via Bluetooth from 7 to 330 get home and play gamed and stuff don't charge till 10 at night.
they work great

Any Double Power battery ??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221230267842?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Just ordered one of these. Hope my phone does not explode! I will report back but it will take time to arrive, maybe 20 days or more...

loumbas said:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221230267842?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Just ordered one of these. Hope my phone does not explode! I will report back but it will take time to arrive, maybe 20 days or more...
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Let us know how that goes.

loumbas said:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221230267842?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Just ordered one of these. Hope my phone does not explode! I will report back but it will take time to arrive, maybe 20 days or more...
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I would advise you not to use batteries by this brand. I've opened up an extended battery they made for the i9300 and discovered that they use spacers to add weight to the batteries instead of using two batteries like the reputable brands(anker,hyperion, zerolemon). The closest you would get to an extended battery is the 3000mah zerolemon.

The battery arrived today and I am giving it the first charge. I will see how it goes and report. I hope it does not mess up my device ...
So far I am using it for 30-40 minutes and it is charging and charge progress seems normal and the temperature also.
I will be back after a couple of days to share the whole experience
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theraker007 said:
I was wondering if anyone can recommend to me a good extended battery that doesn't add bulk or the requirement of a special backplate to the s4?
I don't seem to have as much success as most people here on the phone with battery life, and if i'm lucky I make it to 3 hrs screen on time on each battery (I carry around spare batteries but this is still annoying).
Appreciate the recommendations
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This one -> http://opteka.com/s4batt.aspx
I have it and it extend the life and works great.

Is this opteka s4 battery safe any more report/reviews ? Btw. how many hrs on screen time u got with this opteka ?
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hare89 said:
Is this opteka s4 battery safe any more report/reviews ? Btw. how many hrs on screen time u got with this opteka ?
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Would like to know how it performs as well
If its got a 2 year performance warranty they must be pretty confident in it

On their site it says i9500 ,does it work with i9505 and it fits on original back case ? I would buy it instantly if i could get over 4+hrs on screen with stock rom my max with stock rom is 3.5 but awerage is 3hrs.
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hare89 said:
On their site it says i9500 ,does it work with i9505 and it fits on original back case ? I would buy it instantly if i could get over 4+hrs on screen with stock rom my max with stock rom is 3.5 but awerage is 3hrs.
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It depends on your screen brightness. I am using an 100% stock rom. I get on a full day around 5 hours screen on time with my brightness ranging from 0% to up to 20%.
I also tried this, use the phone with the brightness set to 0%. I managed a staggering 1 hour screen on time while just losing 15% (was whatsapping for an hour).
I don't like the stock battery life as I have to recharge my phone twice a day.... I usually go leave the house at 7AM and come back at around 6PM with around 10% left. Then, I charge it fully and by time I go to bed, the phone already has lost around 40% battery (I use the speaker alot and download Torrents). Then I start chatting with friends in bed and go to sleep with around 10-20% left on the same day (although that's at around 2AM). Thus, even with my battery life, I can't make a full day.
Although I must say, I am a heavy user. I use whatsapp, browser, music player, snapchat, facebook and the camera to take pictures alot on a daily basis. I use my phone with the lowest brightness possible as long as I can see what's on the screen to prolong the battery life.

@hare899500 and 9505 has the same battery

theraker007 said:
I was wondering if anyone can recommend to me a good extended battery that doesn't add bulk or the requirement of a special backplate to the s4?
I don't seem to have as much success as most people here on the phone with battery life, and if i'm lucky I make it to 3 hrs screen on time on each battery (I carry around spare batteries but this is still annoying).
Appreciate the recommendations
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As far as the battery issue, not much you can do.
Try another rom!
I'm on latest crash rom and look

hare89 said:
Is this opteka s4 battery safe any more report/reviews ? Btw. how many hrs on screen time u got with this opteka ?
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Sorry I didn't get back sooner.
I use the Opteka exclusively and am able to get a full day, but it depends on how you use your phone.
They don't advertise a huge upgrade, it's only marginal. you will not get anything above ~2800-3000mAh to fit inside the existing back cover.
That being said, I have yet to have any issue with the Opteka brand.
They also make camera batteries and accessories.

tech_head said:
Sorry I didn't get back sooner.
I use the Opteka exclusively and am able to get a full day, but it depends on how you use your phone.
They don't advertise a huge upgrade, it's only marginal. you will not get anything above ~2800-3000mAh to fit inside the existing back cover.
That being said, I have yet to have any issue with the Opteka brand.
They also make camera batteries and accessories.
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So you think it is better than stock?
Going to replace my original at some point. I never really have issues, though. But they are so cheap I might as well do it before it starts to become a problem, I only go above an hour or two of screen time when I travel by air (can't imaging spending 20%+ of my waking life looking at a 5" screen...don't know how you guys can stand it, lol).

i have polarcell 2900mAh battery for about 2 months, and I am really pleased with it.
Ok, I dont have stock rom, but compared to stock battery it gave me a great results.
About 35 hours without charge, and 2h 40min screen on

Good luck with this one. Most ebay battery is faking the capacity, if the size is just same as the original battery, there is no way it can be 3000mah, u can't beat the physics law.
But I just got another ZNC battery from amazon for $3.99 for a deal [I'm a new user, can't post the link here, if you guys interested, can search 'ZNC battery' at amazon to get the deal]. I have been using it for 3 days from now, works great so far and last just like the original one. I'll report it back this weekend, if I got time for the capacity test.

briannaharbor said:
Thats a crazy amount of use. Way to go.
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Definitely pretty impressive.

Samsung wireless charging battery case

So for the s7 edge I opted to get the mophie battery case because neither was water resistant and the mophie charged faster and gave more protection. With the Note 7 the mophie one isnt out yet, but the samsung one does have water resistance now. With 3100 mah i think itll be enough to get some good screen on time. It does come halfway charged so i recommend charging it before use. It works as simple as putting it on and turning it on.
I purchased this on amazon with prime shipping because the samsung website is so backed up they couldnt even give me a date when they might send it.
First up is the packaging. Its nothing special just the normal samsung packaging we've grown accustomed to.
Package contents
How it looks installed
Side comparison view
Bottom view (doesnt cover usb type c port)
Overall this will do its job but dont expect very much protection as the front is totally exposed. The charging is very slow. It does make the phone both heavier and thicker as is to be expected and makes 1 handed use harder but its a phablet so who cares. I do reccomend this case, but it is a tad expensive. On the other hand though you have to pay to play. Let me know what ya'll think. Will you get one?
Here is the amazon link https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ICERRPG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_.B2VxbV2D5CCX

Sorry for some of the pics looking bad, i think photobucket messed em up. Shots taken on z force

Congrats man... Can you please let us know how does the battery lasts? From what i i know it does say battery is 3100mAh but on the back its also written that usable is a lot less than 3100. Anyhow let us know how much total time you could get without plugging it back in.
Also can you confirm does the backpack charges wirelessly or no.

From what I read this only outputs at 1.0a which is gonna be reaaaally slow compared to the standard 2.0a or fast charge. Does it show any specs on the box anywhere?

The backpack itself does not charge wirelessly, only charges the phone wirelessly.

aznmode said:
From what I read this only outputs at 1.0a which is gonna be reaaaally slow compared to the standard 2.0a or fast charge. Does it show any specs on the box anywhere?
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Standard wireless charging 5v/1A

aznmode said:
From what I read this only outputs at 1.0a which is gonna be reaaaally slow compared to the standard 2.0a or fast charge. Does it show any specs on the box anywhere?
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It is slow, but the way i look at it is, does it need to be super fast if its on your phone like all day?

About 3 hrs to full from 16 percent.. idk if it would even make it to full if you are using it but there you go.

shoaibar said:
Congrats man... Can you please let us know how does the battery lasts? From what i i know it does say battery is 3100mAh but on the back its also written that usable is a lot less than 3100. Anyhow let us know how much total time you could get without plugging it back in.
Also can you confirm does the backpack charges wirelessly or no.
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I had this for one day and took it back for the Samsung fast charge power brick. The case made the phone very warm and just slowed the drain of the phones battery while in use.

kitchencop said:
I had this for one day and took it back for the Samsung fast charge power brick. The case made the phone very warm and just slowed the drain of the phones battery while in use.
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This is exactly what I was going to ask, if I'm out using data, gps, running apps will it even charge....
Thanks!

Femmetechstic said:
This is exactly what I was going to ask, if I'm out using data, gps, running apps will it even charge....
Thanks!
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Yeah at one point I was just cruising Facebook and I kept getting notifications about the device charging too slow. And this was while on wifi with the display at about 50%

Alright, so update. The charger doesnt charge fast we all get that. But it does work well enough that i started today at 500am and it is now 624pm with what i would consider pretty heavy usage. Probably a good 5 hrs screen on time and my phone is at 61 percent with the charger totally depleted, i started the charger at about 80 percent battery. I didnt browse the internet too much i was playing a game called dokkan battles pretty much the whole time with screen at about 25 percent brightness because the room i work in is dark. Just some figures for you guys i will keep updating as info is necessary.
As far as the power bricks go they are nice. And significantly faster, but i like not having to carry them around or plug them in, just one button and im charging.

I think for less than half the price with more capacity and 1.8a output, I would rather have this. It isn't waterproof and no access to spen though.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01J...ttery+case&dpPl=1&dpID=41AMCPW1qQL&ref=plSrch
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aznmode said:
I think for less than half the price with more capacity and 1.8a output, I would rather have this. It isn't waterproof and no access to spen though.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01J...ttery+case&dpPl=1&dpID=41AMCPW1qQL&ref=plSrch
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That could be legit

the samsung backpack charges the phone from 0 to roughly 40% - just tested it with my completely drained note 7 - charging....did not use while charging......turned phone on - battery level was 41% on the phone for about 30 seconds, then dropped to 40%.....
backpack was completely drained at the end of this.
i agree with the OP that it is MUCH easier to have this on the back of the phone rather than lugging around a power bank and cord. however, the backpack battery case is really expensive given the mAH it provides.....
i bought two of them b/c i'm on the phone all day talking to clients from my car.....my two cents is that the cost is worth the convenience, but most others will likely disagree......
cheers.

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biswasd said:
the samsung backpack charges the phone from 0 to roughly 40% - just tested it with my completely drained note 7 - charging....did not use while charging......turned phone on - battery level was 41% on the phone for about 30 seconds, then dropped to 40%.....
backpack was completely drained at the end of this.
i agree with the OP that it is MUCH easier to have this on the back of the phone rather than lugging around a power bank and cord. however, the backpack battery case is really expensive given the mAH it provides.....
i bought two of them b/c i'm on the phone all day talking to clients from my car.....my two cents is that the cost is worth the convenience, but most others will likely disagree......
cheers.
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I'm just curious, if you're in your car, why can't you just get a fast charger for your car and charge it while you're in the car?

monkeyhandler said:
I'm just curious, if you're in your car, why can't you just get a fast charger for your car and charge it while you're in the car?
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Cords

Cords.....hate having to plug snd unplug. Also in in and out of my car all day. This way I have one backpack on my phone while the other one is connected to my fast charger in my car....

My Samsung backpack charger took the phone from 20% to full with 1 dot left. I changed wireless charging settings to slow charge only. Used it a few times while charging for light stuff. Gets a little warm while charging. I'm pretty happy with it. No cables and has pass through charging if you need it. Makes it twice as heavy though. I recommend it.
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Fast charging

Is fast charging on the S7 ok for the battery or it damages it by time ? I mean i want my phone to hold on for at least 3 years.
Should i disable this option to increase the total battery health ?

With or without fast charging...batterys dont last 3 years.
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olafsand said:
With or without fast charging...batterys dont last 3 years.
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Umm yes they do... They last way longer than that actually. They just won't have the capability to hold the full charge amount (in mAh) anymore.

InsanePostman said:
Umm yes they do... They last way longer than that actually. They just won't have the capability to hold the full charge amount (in mAh) anymore.
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It may not have dawned on you yet but that battery does not "hold the full charge amount (in mAh) anymore" is in most users mind the very definition of "my f****** battery is gone"!
With the all the pressure on the manufacturers to make the batteries small and the urge to build faster units the usable battery lifespan takes a hit. Even a 20% shorter battery charge time feels frustrating when heavy users may already struggle to make it last a full day with some phones.
So, "way longer than that" (3 years)…? I don’t think so!

So as a conclusion should I DISABLE FAST CHARGING OR NOT?

RootNightmareX said:
So as a conclusion should I DISABLE FAST CHARGING OR NOT?
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I have never heard anyone being able to prove fast charging causing shortened battery life. There are a lot of guessing around, but the only difference I have seen is that the phone gets slightly warmer to the touch both after fast charging with cable and wireless. Not so hot so that I would suspect damage. After all, since the charging ends a lot faster the total amount of heat surely isn't higher than that with slow charging. Using the phone will sometimes make it warmer than this.
One could perhaps suspect a higher risk for fire with fast charging, but there is no proof for that either.
The choice is yours!

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So as a conclusion should I DISABLE FAST CHARGING OR NOT?
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If you want battery to last longer you do not need to disable anything, instead follow these steps
1. Charge battery to 80 - 85% and not 100%. Stop leaving it overnight.
2. Don't let it fall to 0%, keep it between 20 - 80% charge.
3. Do use phone while charging. You do not want battery heating up.
4. Top up the battery in between your day but keep it within the range above.
5. Keep phone away from to much subglight or warm temperatures. Heat is the biggest enemy of Li-on batteries.
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takerhbk said:
If you want battery to last longer you do not need to disable anything, instead follow these steps
1. Charge battery to 80 - 85% and not 100%. Stop leaving it overnight.
2. Don't let it fall to 0%, keep it between 20 - 80% charge.
3. Do use phone while charging. You do not want battery heating up.
4. Top up the battery in between your day but keep it within the range above.
5. Keep phone away from to much subglight or warm temperatures. Heat is the biggest enemy of Li-on batteries.
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This might have been true many years ago for on old generation of batteries and phones, not for the batteries and smart phones of today. You cannot damage the battery by over charge, there is automatic over charge protection.
You equally cannot do harm to the battery by using it all the way down. There is protection against this also. The system will sense when it is approaching the level that will do any damage at all to the battery and shut down.
No need to worry, just use your phone. There is nothing you can do to make the battery better or worse!

gerhard_wa said:
This might have been true many years ago for on old generation of batteries and phones, not for the batteries and smart phones of today. You cannot damage the battery by over charge, there is automatic over charge protection.
You equally cannot do harm to the battery by using it all the way down. There is protection against this also. The system will sense when it is approaching the level that will do any damage at all to the battery and shut down.
No need to worry, just use your phone. There is nothing you can do to make the battery better or worse!
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So i can enable fast charge and full charge/discharge the phone without any risk?

gerhard_wa said:
This might have been true many years ago for on old generation of batteries and phones, not for the batteries and smart phones of today. You cannot damage the battery by over charge, there is automatic over charge protection.
You equally cannot do harm to the battery by using it all the way down. There is protection against this also. The system will sense when it is approaching the level that will do any damage at all to the battery and shut down.
No need to worry, just use your phone. There is nothing you can do to make the battery better or worse!
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No you are getting it wrong. Don't leave overnight not because it over charges but the fact that you don't want to go upto 100%. Plus everytime you go to 0 battery loses it one cycle. Whatever I say is based on Google research and latest research so it still holds true. For battery longevity never take it to extreme and avoid heating it.
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So i can enable fast charge and full charge/discharge the phone without any risk?
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You should Google or see YouTube videos. What I advise you is based on that research. Almost 99% people advise what I said. Rest is upto you.
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takerhbk said:
No you are getting it wrong. Don't leave overnight not because it over charges but the fact that you don't want to go upto 100%. Plus everytime you go to 0 battery loses it one cycle. Whatever I say is based on Google research and latest research so it still holds true. For battery longevity never take it to extreme and avoid heating it.
You should Google or see YouTube videos. What I advise you is based on that research. Almost 99% people advise what I said. Rest is upto you.
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So the most recommanded tips are: stay at 25-75% battery and try to not heat battery and disable fast charge?

RootNightmareX said:
So the most recommanded tips are: stay at 25-75% battery and try to not heat battery and disable fast charge?
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Disable fast charging if it heats up your battery too much. Otherwise no need.
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gerhard_wa said:
It may not have dawned on you yet but that battery does not "hold the full charge amount (in mAh) anymore" is in most users mind the very definition of "my f****** battery is gone"!
With the all the pressure on the manufacturers to make the batteries small and the urge to build faster units the usable battery lifespan takes a hit. Even a 20% shorter battery charge time feels frustrating when heavy users may already struggle to make it last a full day with some phones.
So, "way longer than that" (3 years)…? I don’t think so!
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That is a generalization based upon nothing but your personal opinion. All I said is that batteries absolutely last longer than 3 years.

Try this app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digibites.accubattery&hl=pt_PT
It gives information about charge/discharge and also battery health based on your use.

case or any way to improve battery life

hello guys.
i am satisfied with mi 5 battery life while using wifi.
but when i use simcard net ( 3g or lte ) , the battery drains so much fast.
less than 3-4 hours of sot.
so i want to know is there any way or external power case for increasing the battery life ?
ty.

I second this. I haven't been able to find any "battery case" for this phone. Any help would be awesome.

Just curious to what ROMs and apps are you guys using regularly?

at getting regularly about 6 hours SOT in like 2 days of usage....
using Mi-Globe Rom stable 8.1.6.0
better flash a good rom and optimize it...

I have the same small battery life trouble..
I tested w/ many miui and custom roms and optimized as much as possible but it did not help.
My case is quite weird that even power on or off, with sim inserted or not and Flight mod on or off does not differ the usage grafic drop down line and time..
Total battery life is 5-7% per hour.
Despite replacing battery w/ a new one the result remains the same..

I would recommend do a complete wipe even for internal storage and flashing global stable or nauget beta from miflash tool......Then give it a few days ...Should work

What rom you use? im used MultiROM 8.1.6.0 only charge 1 time for 2 day use.
Everyday my mi5 just for call 2 hours, spotify 2 hours, checking email and other stuff like facebook, xda, miui forum 2 hours.

Why don't consider getting those power bank case? Those that slip behind the phone and a charger tip goes to the charging port.
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Http://s.aliexpress.com/3EJB3M7F just ordered a battery case will make review soon

Received battery case and it has correct capacity and works really good I can charge it and charge the phone aswell and it stops charging when it has full battery

kewlpanda said:
Received battery case and it has correct capacity and works really good I can charge it and charge the phone aswell and it stops charging when it has full battery
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Hey bro I also want to buy this case can you tell me what is the capacity of this case? And how much screen on time do you get using this case ?

Talha7866 said:
Hey bro I also want to buy this case can you tell me what is the capacity of this case? And how much screen on time do you get using this case ?
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4200mah because I'm a heavy user I get about a day and a half

James Weinreich said:
I second this. I haven't been able to find any "battery case" for this phone. Any help would be awesome.
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/420...32802660677.html?spm=2114.13010308.0.0.HjFSyx

[AKT] Advanced Kernel Tweaks v1.4 BETA | Insane Battery & Performance (SD820/1|OP3/T)
I found this. I think it works with the SD820/820 Lite inside the Mi5. I will take my Mi5 next week and try this.

kewlpanda said:
4200mah because I'm a heavy user I get about a day and a half
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How big does the phone get with it?
Also is it compatible with QC 3?
I'm considering buying it..