Dear developers,
I'm just wondering, is it just me or is everyone else facing the same problem. I felt that my Nexus 5 battery is draining so fast. In 1 day I can charge my phone twice. Sure, I played Asphalt for a bit. But I think the battery drain is still too quick.
I'm using Cataclysm ROM and Franco Kernel.
Should I use kernel controller such as FKU full version?
Any other tips maybe?
Have you tried setting the Wifi such that it is off when your phone is asleep. How about the setting to always allow scanning for Wifi networks? Did you turn off Google location history? One thing I've found is that the Wifi radio eats through the battery like crazy, even at idle, and changing these settings seems to make the biggest difference of anything.
flamechamp said:
Dear developers,
I'm just wondering, is it just me or is everyone else facing the same problem. I felt that my Nexus 5 battery is draining so fast. In 1 day I can charge my phone twice. Sure, I played Asphalt for a bit. But I think the battery drain is still too quick.
I'm using Cataclysm ROM and Franco Kernel.
Should I use kernel controller such as FKU full version?
Any other tips maybe?
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I'm assuming you're on the latest 4.4.2? It's a common issue with the nexus devices so you're not alone there. But what you can do to minimize it is that to set your cpu governor to something modest like 'conservative' and put your i/o scheduler to "row" those settings have worked for me on my s4 to reduce battery drainage. If you have the ktoonservativeq option for Cpu governor then that's a good choice as well.
joemon871 said:
I'm assuming you're on the latest 4.4.2? It's a common issue with the nexus devices so you're not alone there. But what you can do to minimize it is that to set your cpu governor to something modest like 'conservative' and put your i/o scheduler to "row" those settings have worked for me on my s4 to reduce battery drainage. If you have the ktoonservativeq option for Cpu governor then that's a good choice as well.
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Which apps should I use to change those settings? FKU full version?
Post here your problem and they might help you fix it
There's plenty of free apps out there that'll do the job. But for example, in cyanogenmod roma if you have developer settings enabled, there will be an option all the way down at the bottom that says Performance. You can change some settings over there as well
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joemon871 said:
There's plenty of free apps out there that'll do the job. But for example, in cyanogenmod roma if you have developer settings enabled, there will be an option all the way down at the bottom that says Performance. You can change some settings over there as well
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some example would definitely be a great help
which one you suggest too.
I'm not using CM yet
Playing a game like asphalt will drain your battery in no time, that's to be expected, if you play san Andreas is still worse
Try using greenify to greenify your apps through it's widget, I'm on beanstalk with Franco kernel and i get around 24 hours playing games like clash of clans and battle of zombies, but if play San Andreas i get only like 45 minutes, probably an hour
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flamechamp said:
some example would definitely be a great help
which one you suggest too.
I'm not using CM yet
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I can finally post links! Lol but here it is, hope that helped
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/15733-wh...ed-and-governor-on-kernel-other-than-francos/
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Hello there..
i just rooted my nexus S 9020T..i flashed CyanogenMod-7-08312011-NIGHTLY-NS,Build number GRJ90,Android version 2.3.5
my problem is the battery keep draining faster..
fully charged at 7.00AM..10% at 4.00PM
i using Juice defender ultimate (said longer my battery 1.5x)
please help me...
Juice defender is a waste IMO. You could try an undervolted kernel like matr1x or Trinity.
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I suggest teuv kernel by Trinity, best battery life I've seen.
The nexus is a battery hog, especially with all kinds of background apps people have like whatsapp and facebook. If you get Trinity, follow instructions and you wont news any outside monitoring app as the kernel is very good about ram and CPU allotment
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Nexus S is hardly a battery hog.
al_madd said:
Hello there..
i just rooted my nexus S 9020T..i flashed CyanogenMod-7-08312011-NIGHTLY-NS,Build number GRJ90,Android version 2.3.5
my problem is the battery keep draining faster..
fully charged at 7.00AM..10% at 4.00PM
i using Juice defender ultimate (said longer my battery 1.5x)
please help me...
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There are numerous ways to increase battery life. Firstly, you(Android) do not need battery apps and task managers/killers.
Secondly, try this.
Rem3Dy said:
Juice defender is a waste IMO. You could try an undervolted kernel like matr1x or Trinity.
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how if i want to change my kernel??
flash new ROM??
al_madd said:
how if i want to change my kernel??
flash new ROM??
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1067813
try this for GSM
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yes...i just can see the link for download for the kernels..
but i cant guides how to change kernels..
al_madd said:
yes...i just can see the link for download for the kernels..
but i cant guides how to change kernels..
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Flash through recovery. Make a backup first. Choose the correct kernel for your device. Disclaimer: I'm not responsible for your flashing mistakes.
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any other tips how to save battery longer??
Any further tips after a new kernel and rom would be cutting on the use of the phone and are therefore meh. I want to use the phone, not use it less.
So Trinity is better than Netarchy???, what about Pete #5 which is built in Formels MIUI, so far this is the best Rom I have tried on my NS, stable and fast+good battery compared to the others, also I have my phone OC at 1.2G via Setcpu.
Set wifi sleep policy to never.
Turn off auto brightness
Turn off sync and just refresh your gmail manually when you need to and refresh your contacts from time to time. You still get app updates from the market with sync turned off.
Go through all your apps that update regularly (facespace, twitter etc.) and reduce the sync frequency to something that is acceptable for you. I don't need my twitter updating every 15 minutes and can just manually sync whenever I want.
EDIT: Turn off NFC.
... and buy one or two of these: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-1440m...TUEW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1316132022&sr=8-1
Make sure to condition them properly - it really makes a difference.
Wifi Sleep Policy to never fixed alot of my battery issues
Turning off NFC will do nothing as NFC does only consume power (like GPS) when used.
Uni7 said:
Wifi Sleep Policy to never fixed alot of my battery issues
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Issue #1
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PROTIP: Stop using the phone so much. None of these tips are going to do squat if you're using the screen and wifi/3G all day.
Trust me on this. I easily get 12+ hours of use with battery to spare (usually around 30-40%) with the following usage:
NOTE: Matr1x Kernel with the stock undervolting settings, and TSM Pool Party ROM running on top.
The screen is on (a little over 1/4 brightness) with wifi/3g blasting, surfing bright white web pages for about 2-3 hours total. I may play 30 minutes of Furious Neornithes D), screw around on the market for a few minutes, check FB updates, etc. I also probably take/make about 10 short phone calls and send/receive about 50 texts. The remaining time, the phone sits in standby.
Not bad, considering the phone is beefier than most home computers from 10 years ago. Also worth noting: The battery scale isn't the most accurate thing in the world. Battery percentage drops off sharply up until about 60%, where it seems to level off.
So what's the best kernel to use???, Trinity or Trinity UV?, Netarchy?, Matrix?, is not only about the battery but also stability, doesn't matter if u can make ur phone last forever if u can't use BT while browsing cause the thing crashes so u either have to use one or the other.
As this is the save battery thread, there's only one answer: lowest voltage trinity kernel.
method2madness said:
PROTIP: Stop using the phone so much. None of these tips are going to do squat if you're using the screen and wifi/3G all day.
Trust me on this. I easily get 12+ hours of use with battery to spare (usually around 30-40%) with the following usage:
NOTE: Matr1x Kernel with the stock undervolting settings, and TSM Pool Party ROM running on top.
The screen is on (a little over 1/4 brightness) with wifi/3g blasting, surfing bright white web pages for about 2-3 hours total. I may play 30 minutes of Furious Neornithes D), screw around on the market for a few minutes, check FB updates, etc. I also probably take/make about 10 short phone calls and send/receive about 50 texts. The remaining time, the phone sits in standby.
Not bad, considering the phone is beefier than most home computers from 10 years ago. Also worth noting: The battery scale isn't the most accurate thing in the world. Battery percentage drops off sharply up until about 60%, where it seems to level off.
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do you use juice defender???
al_madd said:
do you use juice defender???
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Don't.
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I want to share my setup with you guys for getting good battery life which lasts the day without making you compromise on the features. The primary things I've seen on the forums so far has a lot of involved setup and frankly by the time you get it perfect, you will flash a new ROM and have to re-do a lot of it and so on, overall it's not the worth the hassle.
This is usually what my days look like and I manage to last the entire day:
I keep wifi and GPS on always, regardless of whether I'm using it or not.
Get a fair bit of calls because I live away from family so they all call a lot (I have a massive family, so we are talking about 5-6 hrs of talking everyday).
I like to read news from news republic and I'm subscribed to a lot of stuff there so I go through like 2000+ articles in a given day.
XDA like every few hrs (damn ICS!).
Text messages are also flowing throughout the day with the woman being on the other side of the country and all (100+ a day?).
I have facebook on push (not an addict but active enough to mention)
My gmail, school and exchange are all on push for email so they I see a fair bit there
The setup is VERY easy to setup and replicate. It doesn't require you to lose out on features or use your phone at an anorexic level either. You don't need a task manager or watch your processor non-stop either.
So without further delay, here we go:
Pick a ROM
I'm using Seanster_GBaxe EX v1.5.1 from the T-Mobile section, you can find it here.
Get faux's kernel
The reason for this particular one is because it's given the best results when it comes to undervolting and overclocking without SOD. You can find the kernel here.
Get System Tuner
This is available on market. There are alternatives but for this post, I will be making all the references from this app.
Get the AGPS patch from crypted
This isn't for battery directly but it does get locks VERY fast and you waste less clock cycles getting the signal. Less clock cycles wasted, more battery saved. The patch is available here.
I personally use the v3.0 Google CWM Build (scroll down his post and you will see it)
Get the V6 SUPERCHARGER from zeppelinrox
This is available here. Why the beta one? It works fine.
Okay, at this point you can pretty much store these things together in a neat little folder on your SD card because it makes a perfect library. So let's get started, I'll assume that we are starting from scratch. The order for everything will be as follows:
Get into recovery and install your ROM
This I shouldn't have to explain, the instructions you can find on the ROM thread.
Install the kernel
Same with this, read the kernel thread.
Install the GPS patch
Same with this as well
Boot into ROM
Hmm.... hopefully you can manage this
Restore all your backups and apps, accounts and whatever else
Using titanium here is always good
Install System Tuner
Okay, let's get started. Although faux has done an amazing job with the kernel, there's always the personal bias that goes into making things so his balanced settings might not reflect yours (nor mine but you will be tweak even those soon).
Inside System Tuner, go to CPU:
The first you thing you should choose is whether you want to keep the 1.72 GHz OC or not. I kept it but if you want to get even more you can lower to stock 1.56 GHz or go even lower, your choice. Once you set the max, set the min to 384 MHz. Set it once and you don't need to do it again after. Leave the governer to ONDEMAND.
Now go to the Voltage tab:
Be careful here, this can crash you if you go too far. What we do here is globally undervolt, you can do that by hitting the -12.5 mV button over and over. I use -75 mV (press the button 6 times, for those bad at math). Keep in mind that all chips are NOT THE SAME!!! -75 mV might be too much for you or you might even be able to get to -100 mV, find out by doing it.
Now go back to the CPU tab and hit Boot Settings:
Hit Screen-off behavior:
Governor - No changes
Max frequency - 384 MHz (push doesn't lag at all still so don't worry about notifications)
Max frequency/in call - 384 MHz (yes, calls don't require full blast, they work fine even under 500 MHz)
Now go back
Hit Governors behavior:
Sampling rate - Unchanged (faux has it done perfect)
Up-threshold - 75 (what's this? This means that the CPU will scale to higher frequencies when the load is above 75%)
Power-save Bias - 70 (what's this? This means that the CPU will be "biased" towards lower frequencies when load is below 70%)
Setting the Power-save Bias higher than the Up-threshold is obviously stupid so make sure you did it right.
Now go back
At the bottom, there is a whole bunch of tweaks:
Hit Re-apply CPU settings, choose init.d script (you can choose boot too but init.d works 100% of the time)
Hit Boost app loading, choose init.d
Hit Clear cache, choose init.d
Now go back
Find the Startups section and disable whatever you don't want running at boot (this is purely a personal thing).
Install V6 script
His instructions are very good so I'll assume that you have gotten it installed. Once you have it running, choose option 9, the 1000 HP one. Reboot. Run script again, make sure you've got it at 100% supercharged. Done. Reboot just to be sure again.
All done! Now, I know that was lengthy but here's the awesome part. Make a titanium full backup of System Tuner and you NEVER have to do that again for ANY ROM as long as you use the same kernel!! The script is unfortunately the only thing you have to re-apply, probably that has a quick setup too but I'm new to it so I can't give you shortcuts on it.
Hope you have luck with this and it works for you. I promise nothing and if you break your phone please don't come crying to me because you chose to do this yourself. It works for me so I shared it!! Any suggestions are welcome of course.
Note: NO task manager required!! I will modify this for cm7 if needed.
nice job. thanks a lot!
You're using the rc6.1 correct?
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Thanks for the detailed write-up.
Are you in an LTE market? A full day on LTE would be pretty awesome.
For the screen-off behavior, do you think one can get away with using the smartass governor instead?
I'm using the RC6, tad older I guess.
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jedah said:
Thanks for the detailed write-up.
Are you in an LTE market? A full day on LTE would be pretty awesome.
For the screen-off behavior, do you think one can get away with using the smartass governor instead?
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I'm not in LTE area :-(... Would be nice because that's why I got the phone but then I had to move so can't say anything about LTE.
As for smartass, what kernel are you using? Smartass works very similar to the modified ondemand settings that I set up so it wouldn't make a difference as far as I forsee.
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I tried this, will post results later. Thanks for the great tutorial
If you could post screen shots of your CPU Spy that would be helpful! How well does your phone do on going into deep sleep? On average from what to what time does yours last you? I'm just skeptical about setting the screen off behavior cause that usually prevents the phone from going to Deep Sleep.
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DANIEL133337 said:
If you could post screen shots of your CPU Spy that would be helpful! How well does your phone do on going into deep sleep? On average from what to what time does yours last you? I'm just skeptical about setting the screen off behavior cause that usually prevents the phone from going to Deep Sleep.
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You're right about the deep sleep, don't let it go into deep sleep. It lasts me 12 hours normally. I'll get you screenshots when I get a chance.
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Mine goes into deep sleep with screen off behavior setup.
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kr3w1337 said:
You're right about the deep sleep, don't let it go into deep sleep. It lasts me 12 hours normally. I'll get you screenshots when I get a chance.
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Dont you think the phone waste alot more battery though when it doesn't go into deep sleep? I've also found that WiFi tends to create a nasty wake lock. My set up is Sky ICS Speed with Faux Clock 1.296 ghz max -384 mhz min. -37.5 u/v LTE on all day, extremely heavy usage. 12 hour battery life on average.
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InstigatorX said:
Mine goes into deep sleep with screen off behavior setup.
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Which kernel are you using?
kr3w1337 said:
Which kernel are you using?
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Using faux kernel with foxstar rom.
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DANIEL133337 said:
Dont you think the phone waste alot more battery though when it doesn't go into deep sleep? I've also found that WiFi tends to create a nasty wake lock. My set up is Sky ICS Speed with Faux Clock 1.296 ghz max -384 mhz min. -37.5 u/v LTE on all day, extremely heavy usage. 12 hour battery life on average.
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From what I've noticed with the faux kernel, it goes into deep sleep after some time on it's own, regardless of the screen-off behavior. I haven't opened up the source to check it out for a better explanation but that's something I doubt is worth exploring since the performance doesn't take any hit.
I haven't chosen to underclock to 1.2 but it should do better than the 12 hrs I get now if I did do that. I have a tendency to start GTA 3 and start playing whenever I get bored so that's why I went OC rather than under. For others looking strictly to use the phone with minimal gaming, this would be a good option. LTE isn't available in my area so I can't test with it but the WiFi radio uses just as much battery as the LTE, if not more I have a feeling.
Trying eugene's kernel from today to see if the lionheart governor does better than the current setup. I will know in a couple of days because every ROM flash needs a couple of charge cycles before it accurately shows battery status.
InstigatorX said:
Using faux kernel with foxstar rom.
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Do you get any SOD? Everything working okay? Is the setup different than what I've got up there? Would like to know and try it out, can update the OP accordingly.
Just finished with eugene's kernel and the results were pretty disappointing. Looks like the second core is always kept on regardless, faux's kernel turns the second core offline until usage demands need it.
If anyone knows how to tweak eugene's to stop that from happening, do share.
kr3w1337 said:
Just finished with eugene's kernel and the results were pretty disappointing. Looks like the second core is always kept on regardless, faux's kernel turns the second core offline until usage demands need it.
If anyone knows how to tweak eugene's to stop that from happening, do share.
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Can you clue me location of his latest ROM? Or is it somewhere in the Macnut thread on TMO side of the fence?
InstigatorX said:
Can you clue me location of his latest ROM? Or is it somewhere in the Macnut thread on TMO side of the fence?
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Using darkside ROM at the moment with the faux kernel, had the Eugene kernel but I noticed that the second core is kept alive regardless of usage and that wasn't helping so I changed back to faux.
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thanks for the awesome write up!
Did it last night, and lasted the day without a sweat! However, my min frequency wont stick? I have it set to stock frequency 1.5, using faux kernal, and my voltages arent as low as yours (im not a crazy user like you.. maybe an hour of talking a day, lots of texts and emails tho), but i cannot get my min frequency of 3xx to stay. Suggestions?
Thanks!
edit- running stockMod v1.0
im sorry, i have a hard time believing you talk for 6 hours and scroll thry 2000 pages of web and get a day of use. I myself could get about 1.5 days on battery strictly by staying home, connected to wifi all day and barely talking on the phone. i would like to see a screenshot of battery usage at the end of your day
I've taken the liberty to root my GS4 and have some time spent on tweaking kernel parameters.
For these settings you need to be rooted and have downloaded a kernel tweaking app, such as Trickster Mod.
I believe these settings should make some pretty significant changes to your experience.
Follow the screenshots for the configurations:
Any heat issues?
akira02rex said:
I've taken the liberty to root my GS4 and have some time spent on tweaking kernel parameters.
For these settings you need to be rooted and have downloaded a kernel tweaking app, such as Trickster Mod.
I believe these settings should make some pretty significant changes to your experience.
Follow the screenshots for the configurations:
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Since the changes have you noticed any significant heat or rapid battery drain?
john.082896 said:
Since the changes have you noticed any significant heat or rapid battery drain?
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Still testing. I am charging the device now and I'll report later but i'm guessing hardly anything noticeable.
Thanks for the post!
I am however curious about the use of ZRAM as this phone should easily have enough built in RAM to where that is not needed..
ZRAM generally gets used when a system is RAM deficient.. ZRAM will also be noticeably slower than using the built in RAM as well...
Looking forward to you reporting back..
raqball said:
Thanks for the post!
I am however curious about the use of ZRAM as this phone should easily have enough built in RAM to where that is not needed..
ZRAM generally gets used when a system is RAM deficient.. ZRAM will also be noticeably slower than using the built in RAM as well...
Looking forward to you reporting back..
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I think you may be confused about ZRAM.
ZRAM is used for swapspace instead of placing the swap on the "disk" it is placed in RAM for a performance boost.
akira02rex said:
I think you may be confused about ZRAM.
ZRAM is used for swapspace instead of placing the swap on the "disk" it is placed in RAM for a performance boost.
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I don't think I am confused... Why use swap space for RAM when this phone already has plenty?
Then again, I may be confused..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZRam
Going to give this a shot for a little while.
Baldilocks said:
How do you get to the Interactive Control screen?
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I believe you have to set the CPU governor to interactive, apply by pressing the check at the top right, then going into governor control at the bottom.
tysj said:
I believe you have to set the CPU governor to interactive, apply by pressing the check at the top right, then going into governor control at the bottom.
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Yeah, I found that right after I posted. Thanks!
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This mod has reduced stutter and sputter by like 90% on my device. Will keep pushing it.
Thanks. Really seems to help alot on mine. I did leave the min cpu at default speed though.:thumbup:
Only downside is that after reboot you have to change the settings again.
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You can set at boot in the settings from the menu.
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Only downside is that after reboot you have to change the settings again.
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You can set at boot in the settings from the menu.
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Indeed. Just hit the menu capacitive button to get to the menu pictured below:
Your menu looks so different in terms of the interactive controls... I have none of those values or menus but an even longer list.
Why does your say you have power savings enabled? Why not turn power savings completely off? I still run my galaxy for like 2 days with Music playing like an 8 hour day.
Been running this since last night..
I am not really noticing any difference but will keep testing..
Disclaimer:
I already had 101 apps / processes frozen, animations set to zero, force GPU enabled and am using a different launcher. I think most, if not all, of my lag was done away with by doing that..
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Been running this since last night..
I am not really noticing any difference but will keep testing..
Disclaimer:
I already had 101 apps / processes frozen, animations set to zero, force GPU enabled and am using a different launcher. I think most, if not all, of my lag was done away with by doing that..
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Yea my phone was fast to begin with but with this my battery life has been amazing
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Hers mine. Geared more towards battery. Never had lag issues even from day one prior to rooting.
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slider2828 said:
Your menu looks so different in terms of the interactive controls... I have none of those values or menus but an even longer list.
Why does your say you have power savings enabled? Why not turn power savings completely off? I still run my galaxy for like 2 days with Music playing like an 8 hour day.
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On the general settings, after you've selected interactive you have to hit the check mark on upper right. Then click governor control at the bottom, you should see the interactive settings.
Cant wait to find out what settings gives best battery life and performance.
Yeah. Gotta keep hitting that check mark or nothing takes.
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Seems to not go into deep sleep on interactive. Is this happening to uou?
Hi guys!
I was looking for ways to increase battery life.
As far as I know you can undervolt and decrese CPU speed
Undervolt does not affect performance but does increase temperature right?
Decrease CPU speed obviously decreases the speed of the phone.
Both these things can be achieved by using a custom kernel right? I heard of franco kernel as being the best for these things...
Any other ways of increasing battery life?
Cheers!
nad4321 said:
Hi guys!
I was looking for ways to increase battery life.
As far as I know you can undervolt and decrese CPU speed
Undervolt does not affect performance but does increase temperature right?
Decrease CPU speed obviously decreases the speed of the phone.
Both these things can be achieved by using a custom kernel right? I heard of franco kernel as being the best for these things...
Any other ways of increasing battery life?
Cheers!
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Why not try Franco first before starting to tweak. The kernel's default settings are reputedly optimal for that elusive balance between performance and battery life.
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PhilipTD said:
Why not try Franco first before starting to tweak. The kernel's default settings are reputedly optimal for that elusive balance between performance and battery life.
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yeah well im using stock now so it was just a matter wether changing to franco would make a difference
nad4321 said:
yeah well im using stock now so it was just a matter wether changing to franco would make a difference
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Yeah, give it a try. Since I installed it, the phone (and my N7, too) has become snappier, and battery life on standby is awesome (like 1-2%/hr). SOT, on the other hand, is still lamentable, even at dim levels. If you do go Franco, I recommend getting the FK updater app on the Play Store.
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PhilipTD said:
Yeah, give it a try. Since I installed it, the phone (and my N7, too) has become snappier, and battery life on standby is awesome (like 1-2%/hr). SOT, on the other hand, is still lamentable, even at dim levels. If you do go Franco, I recommend getting the FK updater app on the Play Store.
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Cheers! Do you know any good tutorial to unlock bootloader, root and instal custom recovery + kernel? Long process hahaha
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Cheers! Do you know any good tutorial to unlock bootloader, root and instal custom recovery + kernel? Long process hahaha
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There's a tutorial on this in the forum. I'd link it to you but I am on my tablet at the moment.
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nad4321 said:
Cheers! Do you know any good tutorial to unlock bootloader, root and instal custom recovery + kernel? Long process hahaha
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508284
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PhilipTD said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508284
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Thanks again From your own experience what would you recommend TWRP or CWM
nad4321 said:
Thanks again From your own experience what would you recommend TWRP or CWM
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TWRP, without a doubt. It's completely stable, and easy to use. CWM used to be really wonky; that's why I switched.
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PhilipTD said:
TWRP, without a doubt. It's completely stable, and easy to use. CWM used to be really wonky; that's why I switched.
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I guess all of these CPU speeds and undervolt can be changed at any time withouth erasing anythign right?
nad4321 said:
Thanks again From your own experience what would you recommend TWRP or CWM
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Philz touch. Its cwm based, more features than twrp and cwm put together and more stable than both too.
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nad4321 said:
I guess all of these CPU speeds and undervolt can be changed at any time withouth erasing anythign right?
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You can set up virtually any configuration with Franco. But, again, I suggest you try his default settings first. He put a lot into figuring it out, and his findings likely are the most reliable. I've never felt the need to customize the kernel any differently.
Some people, however, really like to mess around with the settings as a kind of hobby. I used to do so, and it's a lot of fun (and headaches). So, if you want to get into it, go for it. There are numerous apps you can use to tweak all those settings.
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rootSU said:
Philz touch. Its cwm based, more features than twrp and cwm put together and more stable than both too...
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I know, I've been meaning to check out out. Thanks
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PhilipTD said:
You can set up virtually any configuration with Franco. But, again, I suggest you try his default settings first. He put a lot into figuring it out, and his findings likely are the most reliable. I've never felt the need to customize the kernel any differently.
Some people, however, really like to mess around with the settings as a kind of hobby. I used to do so, and it's a lot of fun (and headaches). So, if you want to get into it, go for it. There are numerous apps you can use to tweak all those settings.
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I know, I've been meaning to check out out. Thanks
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I noticed that by default it has 2 cores working and then uses the other 2 when required... This might sound stupid but did stock already do this?
Try greenify and xposed framework.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify‎
Im running the catalysm rom + franco kernel undervolted (which by the way decreases the temperature) and under clocked to 1728mhz. I also am using greenify + xposed. Finally I turn off location reporting, touch sounds, always scanning wifi and set location to "battery saving" mode. Without any gaming I get around 5hr of screen on time. Straight gaming gives me around 2.5hr of SOT. Usually I get around 4hr from my regular day. Any other tips for battery?
Wondering if any of the color apps (Faux/Franco) will work with a rooted ROM using stock kernel? Noticed that on the N4 that stock 4.4.4 is amazing (lost 4% in 12 hours!), compared to my N5 using elementalx at 28% over same period.
I just hate stock colors and hoped to still be able to change them?
yes, but you need a custom kernel that supports color change/gamma. with just stock, no. its code thats added to a kernel that gives you the feature, not rom related at all.
simms22 said:
yes, but you need a custom kernel that supports color change/gamma. with just stock, no. its code thats added to a kernel that gives you the feature, not rom related at all.
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Thanks. That's kinda what I thought.
I might just try going back to pure stock to see if the N5 can come close to the deep sleep of the N4 running 4.4.4 stock. Then decide if deeper colors are worth average battery life.
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Globespy said:
Thanks. That's kinda what I thought.
I might just try going back to pure stock to see if the N5 can come close to the deep sleep of the N4 running 4.4.4 stock. Then decide if deeper colors are worth average battery life.
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why would colors affect battery life? unless you are talking about the kernel that you were using in general. anyways, battery life most is dependent on how you personally use your device, how you set it up, what apps you use, and very much your data/phone signal quality. the kernel will play just a little when it comes to battery, unless the kernel itself is just plain bad, with bad code. deep sleep could be kernel related, but it could be related to the services you are running as well. google play services has an issue lately with constantly checking for your location. this constant checking constantly wakes your device. maybe this is the issue with your non deep sleep? i know i had it, until i disabled certain services.
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why would colors affect battery life? unless you are talking about the kernel that you were using in general. anyways, battery life most is dependent on how you personally use your device, how you set it up, what apps you use, and very much your data/phone signal quality. the kernel will play just a little when it comes to battery, unless the kernel itself is just plain bad, with bad code. deep sleep could be kernel related, but it could be related to the services you are running as well. google play services has an issue lately with constantly checking for your location. this constant checking constantly wakes your device. maybe this is the issue with your non deep sleep? i know i had it, until i disabled certain services.
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Colors wouldn't change battery life, I was wondering if the stock kernel could use the color apps.
But to your point, it must be something in the ROM (KangaKat) or one of the apps I'm using rather than the kernel. I think it must be an app although I can't tech l track it down as it's just a bunch of system processes that are eating the juice and nothing pointing to an app in particular. Thanks though.
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