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The thunderbolt's LTE flies when using the web, will the sprint 4g come close in speeds?
I had the evo when it first came out and the 4g was a laugh here in Chicago. I have the nexus s on T-Mobile and their 4g speeds are TERRIBLE! Specially indoors, it crawls!
JasjarMan said:
The thunderbolt's LTE flies when using the web, will the sprint 4g come close in speeds?
I had the evo when it first came out and the 4g was a laugh here in Chicago. I have the nexus s on T-Mobile and their 4g speeds are TERRIBLE! Specially indoors, it crawls!
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It's the same WiMax network as the Evo - I wouldn't expect to see any sort of increase over what the current Spring 4G phones pull. Spring has plans to implement an LTE network but everything is still currently WiMax.
T mobile 4g on average is better than sprints 4g. No it wont be the same, its on two different networks and lte vs wimax
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JasjarMan said:
The thunderbolt's LTE flies when using the web, will the sprint 4g come close in speeds?
I had the evo when it first came out and the 4g was a laugh here in Chicago. I have the nexus s on T-Mobile and their 4g speeds are TERRIBLE! Specially indoors, it crawls!
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funny, on my nexus s, on tmobile 3G, average speeds are from 4-6mbps in the nyc area. also, ive regularly been seeing speeds near 7mbps. so i have to say that this is just as fast if not faster than sprints 4G.
simms22 said:
funny, on my nexus s, on tmobile 3G, average speeds are from 4-6mbps in the nyc area. also, ive regularly been seeing speeds near 7mbps. so i have to say that this is just as fast if not faster than sprints 4G.
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Yeah same here. Its most likely because of the 42mbps so its increasing the speed of the network overall.
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When Clear first launched, they had download speeds similar to what you are seeing now on Verizon's LTE network. I used to get between 9-13 megs downstream on Clear when they first came out. The speed of their network gradually became worse and worse as they got more suscribers (from Clear and Sprint). I believe history may repeat itself again in that Verizon's speed may come down lower and lower as they gain more and more suscribers. Time will tell.
I recently noticed that my 3G speed is much faster than ever before and I live in one of the city that recently added T-Mobile HSPA+.
I was just wondering if Nexus S supports HSPA+. Thanks!
I believe that the NS (I9020 and I9023 variants) have a max download speed of 7.2Mbps and max upload speed of around 5 Mbps, so it is not HSPA+ capable.
It's true the NS, has a max download speed, of 7.2. However, T-mobile's network (at least where I live, supports 21 mbps theoretical speeds (and will be, updating to 42 mbps soon...woohoo) and I regularly see speeds in excess of 6mbps... Upload speeds of almost 2 mbps (1.75 ) so, technically not HSPA + but, not bad either....
Everytime T-mo updates their network everyone sees a boost. You just won't, ever see speeds above, 7 mbps cuz the phone isn't capable of it.
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HSPA yes. HSPA+ no.
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Ok so I bought an HTC inspire 4G and it has hsdpa network and I'm normally getting 2.3 Mbs download. I went into the ATT store and the Samsung infuse uses utms and it was getting up to 5-7 Mbs download speed.
I read other forums that said hsdpa was suppose to be better. If so can anyone please explain it to me. I'm all about network speed and I wanted to know if I should just get the infuse or will the hsdpa improve later on.
Hsdpa will get faster speeds once its turned on in your area. For example in Austin, Texas I get 6mb down with the inspire. The Infuse also has hsdpa. In some areas utms is faster. I'm a huge HTC fas so I will always choose HTC over other brands. If your leaning toward Samsung wait until the Galaxy S 2 comes out for ATT.
Overall you will not feel much of a difference on the phone... you can have a nice and fast looking speedtest but the difference will be within seconds.
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ThEiiNoCeNT said:
Overall you will not feel much of a difference on the phone... you can have a nice and fast looking speedtest but the difference will be within seconds.
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agree on that
att stores also setup their own in store micro cells so it looks like they have phenomenal service when you try stuff out in stores.
I'm getting about 6M down, 1up in good coverage area
I am speaking HSDPA with AT&T in east suburbs of Portland, OR. I do hit 7M down though somewhat routinely. Giddy / tingly when that happens . Oh and phone is still totally stock. Since Gingerbread OTA reportedly coming in a couple weeks by this forum, gonna wait until after that to root...skert...never rooted before, but I'm fairly certain I will at some point.
Edit: With Inspire 4G
I've had UTMS coverage on my Inspire 4G...
I saw it one time when I geekin over starting to get such high speeds, and checking what kind of network I was on a lot in the >About Phone setting. There is a youtube of a dude with an Inspire 4G when testing network speeds (and *****ing that it was slow...probably because HSDPA was not turned on in his area yet) that had this show up on camera. He acted surprised and didn't know what that meant. So my conclusion is that Inspire 4G supports UTMS...why I duuno
EDIT: The youbute video where a guy has UTMS coverage on camera on his Inspire 4G is entitled "Is AT&T Misleading about HSPA+ on the Inspire 4G"...well I'm happy with my speed so whatev's.
I was getting speeds like the OP with HSDPA at first
but lately i think AT&T has been sprinkling the magic "4G" dust on the towers around here, because my speeds have obviously improved dramatically, and the HSDPA status hasn't changed...
UMTS = 384 kbps.
HSDPA = 3.6 Mbps (much higher lately on att).
So I'm not sure what was happening with the phone you saw.
RogerPodacter said:
UMTS = 384 kbps.
HSDPA = 3.6 Mbps (much higher lately on att).
So I'm not sure what was happening with the phone you saw.
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I wasn't speed testing when I saw it it in my About Phone menu. I was in my employers cafeteria showing someone else where to check for what network one is currently on, and I saw the UMTS on my phone. Only saw it one time. The video name I posted is about how the H+ icon(in his opinion) is a sham, because it doesn't specify "3G". When he popped about settings it was on UTMS was visible in his About Phone menu. He made some comment about he didn't know what that was all about.
Hey guys!
Is there a way we can disable the 4G connection and only use 3G? Any help that you guys can as provide will be greatly appreciated!
There is no 4G in Atrix2. Is just a marketing ATT does.
4G = 3G
Shaliuno said:
There is no 4G in Atrix2. Is just a marketing ATT does.
4G = 3G
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4G LTE = LTE (our phone doesn't support it)
4G = 3G + extra stuff to be better... but still techically 4G as it's AT&T's 4th generation of technology
3G = 3G
But I don't think that there's a way you can disable "4G" and only use 3G... you can disable 3G/4G and only use 2G though.
ATRIX 2 supports 21mbit hspa+ that's what they call 4G. 3g is really just slower versions of hspa+ for us. Post above is correct about LTE. LTE is better than hspa+ also.
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Shaliuno said:
There is no 4G in Atrix2. Is just a marketing ATT does.
4G = 3G
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my wifes iphone 4 must suck then.
hers is a "3g" and gets about 1.25 mbps
my atrix 2 4G gets 4.45 mbps
i think 4g is a bunch faster than 3g.....
or its just that the iphone a generally crap.
take your pick i suppose.
matt99017d said:
my wifes iphone 4 must suck then.
hers is a "3g" and gets about 1.25 mbps
my atrix 2 4G gets 4.45 mbps
i think 4g is a bunch faster than 3g.....
or its just that the iphone a generally crap.
take your pick i suppose.
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Well it's both really .
But our phone is about as fast as you can get on AT&T's network without using LTE. The OG Atrix also was "4G" but it was only 14.x mb/sec while our A2's radio supports up to 21.x mb/sec (or something around there). The iPhone X's only support 3G.
extide said:
ATRIX 2 supports 21mbit hspa+ that's what they call 4G. 3g is really just slower versions of hspa+ for us. Post above is correct about LTE. LTE is better than hspa+ also.
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Not too sure what you guys are meaning when you say better....
I was interested in the differences a while back and after researching around quite a bit, found that the speeds really depended on the phone's programming more so than whether it was LTE or HSPA+.
cowenby said:
Not too sure what you guys are meaning when you say better....
I was interested in the differences a while back and after researching around quite a bit, found that the speeds really depended on the phone's programming more so than whether it was LTE or HSPA+.
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LTE has higher bandwidth, and is less populated. HSPA+ can go up to 21mbit, yes, (which is less than LTE) BUT most AT&T HSPA+ deployments are 7mbit or 14mbit.
HSPA+ users typically see ~4-5mbit or so, maybe up to 7mbit on a 14.4mbit cell, but LTE users typically can see 9-11mbit+.
The best speedtest I have ever gotten on my phone was in the 5mbit range. SLC only has 7mbit HSPA+ from what I can tell, and since AT&T is going to LTE, it appears they wont be upgrading the HSPA+ network any more.
you're lucky. Around my area all you can get is 2-3 mbs.
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you're lucky. Around my area all you can get is 2-3 mbs.
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Thats what I usually get too, but if I am right near a cell tower I can get the ~5mbit speeds.
Yeah, "4G" is actually HSPA+, which AT&T actually was going to call 3G+. The 4G crap came around because T-Mobile marketed it that way and if AT&T stuck with 3G+ they took the risk of people thinking T-Mobile was faster and losing customers. LTE was what they planned to call 4G.
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Thats what I usually get too, but if I am right near a cell tower I can get the ~5mbit speeds.
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Yeah, i'm in Orlando and normally getting 2-4 mbps...
I visited Boston a few Weeks ago and was getting 13!!!!!
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Their hspa+ is like 3.5 g its def better then reg 3g
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I feel as if their labeling of 4g was a bit deceiving as well but its understandable if it was meant to keep up with TMobile because of all the confusion between 4g and 4g lte.
The good news is that I don't believe our 4g is as battery-consuming as 4g lte, its probably about the same as regular 3g.
If you're wanting to limit it to 2g though there is a way to do it even though the menu is left out from our 'Settings'. Use anycut to get to network settings directly and choose GSM only.
At least T-Mobile's HSPA+ is significantly faster than "3G" - not an entirely undeserved title for them. ATT...not so much.
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At least T-Mobile's HSPA+ is significantly faster than "3G" - not an entirely undeserved title for them. ATT...not so much.
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i got 13mbs on at&t so it works good for me
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kwiggington said:
i got 13mbs on at&t so it works good for me
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That's pretty good. Max I've seen is 11mbit down.
I didn't believe it at first so I reran the speedtest a couple times to make sure.
Mine has topped out around 9Mbps, sadly.
It's not throughput that's bad on a decent 3G network, a lot of time's it's the latency. Meh. Whatever. Long live LTE.
I ran just ran the speedtest.net app and I have 7.20 mbps down and 1.13 up here in Atlanta. Thats even better than basic dsl albiet cable beats it easily....
My 3g has been worse than usual. Its like unbearable at times. Sprints 3g isn't fast yes but its been even worse than usual and has been slower to connect to 3g coming from 4g. Sending messages through fb messenger isn't very reliable and failed in yahoo messenger at least once. 4g is more reliable but sucks more power. I don't want 4g to have to be on all the time. Anyone else been having problems like this? This is messed up, 3g performance for me lately is horrid, its not 3g, something worse.
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i get good speeds, ive been through like 5 cities today and lowest speeds i got were about 560 kbps. Im also on a nexus s 4g flashed to boost mobile with a bunch of speed tweaks and prl 12121. Highest i got today had to be over 1 mbps. Those are fine speeds for me. Faster than dialup
I have found that in cities that have 4g, Sprint's 3G is extremely slow.
I am a little perturbed at Sprint because the 3G speeds when I first got this phone were much much faster than they are now.
Sprint is so slow now that the phone is almost unusable. 4G coverage does help some, but the 4G coverage is so spotty, that it is a crap-shoot on usability.