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Android Rom Tool

Hello everyone,
I'm not new to this forum, i have used it for many years now. Yet i have never made any contribution to the community.
I was fiddling with my G1 again when i found out my rom folder was a complete mess filled with update.zip packages, roms i didn't even know i downloaded. So i though, hey lets develop an application to manage all my roms and radio's with a quick button to upload a rom or radio to my g1.
Something like this:
Sorry i could not post a link, it's restricted. My account is still blocked for that. Admin??
I wonder if anyone would be interested in such an application? And if you are interested could you come up with suggestions to make it better/ help me debugging (i'm a student, i don't have a lot of spare time).
If anyone is interested i will seriously think about further developing this app,
it's now in pre-pre-alpha stage or so .
Greetings from holland.

zuenaerox said:
Hello everyone,
I'm not new to this forum, i have used it for many years now. Yet i have never made any contribution to the community.
I was fiddling with my G1 again when i found out my rom folder was a complete mess filled with update.zip packages, roms i didn't even know i downloaded. So i though, hey lets develop an application to manage all my roms and radio's with a quick button to upload a rom or radio to my g1.
Something like this:
Sorry i could not post a link, it's restricted. My account is still blocked for that. Admin??
I wonder if anyone would be interested in such an application? And if you are interested could you come up with suggestions to make it better/ help me debugging (i'm a student, i don't have a lot of spare time).
If anyone is interested i will seriously think about further developing this app,
it's now in pre-pre-alpha stage or so .
Greetings from holland.
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First off, I am not sure if this is in the right section...perhaps putting it under General might be a better option, as it does not have to do specifically with developing a ROM.
Secondly, the idea seems promising. I am not fluent with ADB, but if you can flash roms with it (IE: boot the phone into recovery, and use adb to flash the rom), then yeah, I think it would be a great idea. And again, depending on what ADB can do, haev it control nandroid/bart as well for backing up and restoring. I know ADB has the shell command, so if you can use stdin/stdout to read/write to that shell prompt, it would be feasible.
But that is forcing every user to go ahead and keep a db of the ROMs they download...perhaps using an external host to manage the images (keep a listing, changelogs, etc) of the individual roms would be an idea...then you can have the application pull roms directly from that repo. This, of course, would require you to manage the remote repository and keep it up to date.
Thats my $0.02

jmhecker said:
First off, I am not sure if this is in the right section...perhaps putting it under General might be a better option, as it does not have to do specifically with developing a ROM.
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This is ANDROID Development, not ROM Development.
My $0.02.

Bavilo said:
This is ANDROID Development, not ROM Development.
My $0.02.
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Thats why I said "I'm not sure"...I stand corrected though.

If we want to get technical, this is Htc Dream (G1) Android Development. If we want to be nitpicky this should be in Android development unless it is only for the Dream (G1) and will not work for any other Android phone, which I doubt. But who's being nitpicky anyway?

JAguirre1231 said:
If we want to get technical, this is Htc Dream (G1) Android Development. If we want to be nitpicky this should be in Android development unless it is only for the Dream (G1) and will not work for any other Android phone, which I doubt. But who's being nitpicky anyway?
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First off, I love the last line of your signature...classic
I just know that the mods and certain 'Senior Members' like to trash talk about threads in the wrong section, rather than simply stating that it would be more appropriate elsewhere. I was just trying to stop the bashing before it started, heh.
This thread is getting sidetracked though. I do think that the idea is a good one, whether it be strictly for G1, or across the board for all Android devices.

Sorry...
Sorry for posting this in the wrong section, i thought it should be in this section becouse it involves rom's.
Putting up a rom repo, would involve PHP and Mysql(a large one, saving all roms and radio's).
I would be very interested starting this project. I could use some help however. I don't mind building such a repo, but the content should be community managed.
I think android is going to be the mobile future so building such a repo would pay off since we're getting more and more rom's. Ill experiment with php and mysql tonight. I don't have a host, i run it locally.
Maybe someone with mysql/ bandwith to spare?
greetings

zuenaerox said:
Sorry for posting this in the wrong section, i thought it should be in this section becouse it involves rom's.
Putting up a rom repo, would involve PHP and Mysql(a large one, saving all roms and radio's).
I would be very interested starting this project. I could use some help however. I don't mind building such a repo, but the content should be community managed.
I think android is going to be the mobile future so building such a repo would pay off since we're getting more and more rom's. Ill experiment with php and mysql tonight. I don't have a host, i run it locally.
Maybe someone with mysql/ bandwith to spare?
greetings
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It wouldn't necessarily have to be done with MySQL/SQLite/etc...XML would work just as well, but can be a bit more tricky to manage. SQL probably would be the better option now that I think about it.
This idea would have 2 parts to it then, correct? The backend (database hosted online somewhere), and the frontend for the user desktop.
As far as the bandwidth required, there are plenty of places on the net that are geared towards hosting of open source projects...perhaps you could use one of their offerings.

The idea first involved a client managed application only. However the idea in the other post about a web based repo liked me better . Ill try to develop a simple web application to add rom's,track changes. I will try to put a test application online tomorrow.
I hope this repo will be used and managed. I like this forum very much and the community could not live without it. This repo would absolutely be and addition to xda!
Using the repo, you could view all available rom's, installation instructions, track changes.
Check the thread tomorrow. Ill try to upload an example
Have a nice day

zuenaerox said:
The idea first involved a client managed application only. However the idea in the other post about a web based repo liked me better . Ill try to develop a simple web application to add rom's,track changes. I will try to put a test application online tomorrow.
I hope this repo will be used and managed. I like this forum very much and the community could not live without it. This repo would absolutely be and addition to xda!
Using the repo, you could view all available rom's, installation instructions, track changes.
Check the thread tomorrow. Ill try to upload an example
Have a nice day
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I think anything is better than what we have now: Threads scattered all over the place with new ROMs getting posted. We need something more centralized.

bro you look like a fake maxisma .. hahahhaha .. sorry had to point that out

@georgegreco86
Well thank you for your kind reply...
@jmhecker
I've put together a quick php,mysql script on a temporary host. It's not possible to add roms. But you can view rom information in an organized way.
This is just an example of what is possible. Never mind the layout.
Its just a quick preview.
androidrepo.zxq.net/index.php
Greetings

Great idea!!!
im not a developer, but im a flashaholic he he, cant wait for this info....

zuenaerox said:
@georgegreco86
Well thank you for your kind reply...
@jmhecker
I've put together a quick php,mysql script on a temporary host. It's not possible to add roms. But you can view rom information in an organized way.
This is just an example of what is possible. Never mind the layout.
Its just a quick preview.
androidrepo.zxq.net/index.php
Greetings
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The one thing to think about with this is when you allw people to add/update/delete their roms. You will have to have some sort of permission system in place that would prevent UserA from deleting a ROM that was created and uploaded by UserB.
Also, this creates another login/password that the rom creators need to remember.

Yeah i thougt about that, unfortunatly we live in a world where you can't trust people. So yes i need to build an user auth system
This was just preview
I'm going to bed now, ill be working on it tomorrow
have a nice day

I like to help
well I am just putting a new linux server online in the next day or so
toss one of my google adds on the page and you can host it there
and as space requirements grow I can add more np
it would at ther very least get it hosted so you guys can get it off the ground
by the way I have been lurking around here for months
some of the stuff you guys have done is truely sweet my phone
will never be the say again unless rogers has its way

Hello guys,
I've been working very hard on the repo and i'm glad to announce that the admin part is allmost fully finished!!
@Broncosis
Thank you for your reply!!!!
i hope your host can run php, and mysql. I use the mysql to upload foto's and roms are saved to the server harddisk. Will this be possible?
Thanks in advance for helping get this project off the ground !!
greetings

zuenaerox said:
Hello guys,
I've been working very hard on the repo and i'm glad to announce that the admin part is allmost fully finished!!
@Broncosis
Thank you for your reply!!!!
i hope your host can run php, and mysql. I use the mysql to upload foto's and roms are saved to the server harddisk. Will this be possible?
Thanks in advance for helping get this project off the ground !!
greetings
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If I may make a suggestion: When you are working on the frontend (what the users (not devs) will see, code it using proper XHTML standards, and utilize classes from within your CSS. The reason I say that is I would be willing to make a desktop application that would scrape your webpage at load, and obtain the ROM categories, rom information, download links, etc, and the user would then be able to simply choose a ROM from the application, which in turn would download it, and create a nandroid backup of the phone, move the ROM over, and flash it, without any user interaction. (thats assuming I can work out a few of the troubles I am running into with ADB and Fastboot)

zuenaerox said:
Hello everyone,
I'm not new to this forum, i have used it for many years now. Yet i have never made any contribution to the community.
I was fiddling with my G1 again when i found out my rom folder was a complete mess filled with update.zip packages, roms i didn't even know i downloaded. So i though, hey lets develop an application to manage all my roms and radio's with a quick button to upload a rom or radio to my g1.
Something like this:
Sorry i could not post a link, it's restricted. My account is still blocked for that. Admin??
I wonder if anyone would be interested in such an application? And if you are interested could you come up with suggestions to make it better/ help me debugging (i'm a student, i don't have a lot of spare time).
If anyone is interested i will seriously think about further developing this app,
it's now in pre-pre-alpha stage or so .
Greetings from holland.
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You may want to partner with the guy who built Droid Explorer. This sounds like a natural extension to that tool (if it's not already baked in). I know you can push things like APKs to the phone from Droid Explorer.

maxawesome said:
You may want to partner with the guy who built Droid Explorer. This sounds like a natural extension to that tool (if it's not already baked in). I know you can push things like APKs to the phone from Droid Explorer.
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Do we know who it was that created Droid Explorer? I would love to be able to improve upon what he has already done.

An application challenge for an altrustic purpose!

Hi.
I am using an HTC HD2.
So here's the challenge - or maybe not!
These guys (communicationautism.com) released PixTalk (see there download section), a WM application for children with Autism to allow them to communicate. The dark side (aka IPhone) have released a commercial application called Grace which achieves the same thing.
PixTalk is Open Source and the licence allows modification and redistribution.
The issue is this: I have been advised that it will not run on 800x420 screens (which is the HTC HD2). I get the following script:
ArgumentOutOfRangeException at System .IO.FileStream_Position(Int64value)
at Pixtalk>Form1.ctor()
at Pixtalk.Program.Main()
I am running it on an HTC HD2 1024Mhz with 800x480 display.
OS version is 5.2.23554.
I am running Microsoft .NET CF 3.5 (which is built into a customized ROM).
One thing I guarantee - I will be donating to the first person who can assist me as I have a 4 year old with Autism and I don't want to buy an IPhone!
Thanks in advance
Andrew

i'm sorry i'm not a developer, otherwise i would help you surely to make the app work, without any donation of course, the biggest one is the opportunity to can help your son.
bye!

ajt320 said:
ArgumentOutOfRangeException at System .IO.FileStream_Position(Int64value)
at Pixtalk>Form1.ctor()
at Pixtalk.Program.Main()
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Doesn't sound like a screen related error, sounds more like you have a file that its trying to open and it's either missing or corrupt. You say it's open source, but I don't see the source available on their site ... do you have it or can point me to it? If so I'd be happy to take a peek.
-Chuck

I only have the CAB file and associated images at this stage. I have requested the program co-ordinator for the code and will get back to you as soon as I have it.
EDIT: Sorry it is not a CAB but an EXE.
The licence reads:
PixTalk is a software application for Windows Mobile 6 that allows people to communicate using icons. PixTalk has been funded by a grant from Microsoft Research.
Copyright (C)
Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA Claremont Graduate University, Claremont, CA, USA
This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the BSD License as published by the Open Source Initiative.
This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
See the Open Source Initiative OSI - The BSD License: Licensing
for more details opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php

Although I've never developed for compact .net, if you will be able to obtain the source, I'll do my best to help.

My uncle has Autism, Just wanted to thank you for putting this up!
Much respect!
I would donate to help If i wasnt so broke with 11 month old son..
Best of luck in your development!

I'll happily look at this once the source is available.
No donations required - I'm just a sucker for a good cause.

ajt320 said:
ArgumentOutOfRangeException at System .IO.FileStream_Position(Int64value)
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it seems that the app tries to read data from a position in the file which is beyond the filesize.
e.g.
the file being read has a size of 2.000 bytes, and the app tries to read from position 2.500.

hebbe said:
it seems that the app tries to read data from a position in the file which is beyond the filesize.
e.g.
the file being read has a size of 2.000 bytes, and the app tries to read from position 2.500.
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Or trying to read from a file that doesn't exist, and is being created by the stream object (whatever type of stream it actually is). It's pretty much guesswork until we see the source code.

Thanks
Thanks everyone for your great support.
The source code is on its way!
I just have to agree that the fix or updated version will be available to communicationautism.com for public download off their site.
The developer has said full credit will be attributable to those of you involved in the fix. I am hoping that will be some good cudos for you guys and gals!

ajt320 said:
Thanks everyone for your great support.
The source code is on its way!
I just have to agree that the fix or updated version will be available to communicationautism.com for public download off their site.
The developer has said full credit will be attributable to those of you involved in the fix. I am hoping that will be some good cudos for you guys and gals!
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Nice one mate. It'll be like a busman's holiday

Source Code
Here is the source code for Pix Talk.
Please read the earlier posts for the condition attached to further development and also what the problem is all about.
rapidshare.com/files/381341025/pixtalk.zip
Please feel free to PM me with any questions or requests for other information.
To give you some idea of the IPhone applications check out: //blog.steventroughtonsmith.com/2010/03/grace-picture-exchange-for-non-verbal.html#comments
Thanks in advance to all who contribute to this extremely beneficial application. I will ensure that your names are revered far and wide!!!!!

Still Going
Hi all.
johncmolyneux is on board and it would be good to get some other members involved - good for the developers and good for XDA as this is truly a worthwhile application.

HELP
OK.
John M is unfortunately unable to assist.
Is there anyone else who may be interested?

Can you please re-upload the source code because it is no longer available for download.

Good Luck
Hope someone can help you with the app

Source Code
Hi.
Here is the code:
http://rapidshare.com/files/412861773/pixtalk.zip
Let me know if you need any assistance in any way whatsoever and I will see if I can oblige.
Thanks for your interest!

Please check your PM's. I have uploaded an initial working version for you to test.
Once any problems are fixed I will provide a public download link as well as a link to the source.

Thanks
Thanks a bunch!
Have downloaded and will test first thing in the morning.
Mate I appreciate the time you have put into it so far!
Greetz

Where can I find this updated version
Hi,
I just downloaded the app from the site, and seem to have similar issues. This is for my autistic son. I found this thread. Can I get the updated app - also for the HD2. I do have dev experience too, so if the source code is available, and the problem is not fixed, I can look at help at fixing it too.

I want to team up to develop android apps !! Anyone interested Can JOIN

Im new to application development (for android), (im a noob.. fr now ;-) ) So i thought it would be good if i team up with a experienced group or developers. Im ready to work for you(whoever is willing to recruit me first)
Wht i know
-photoshop
-flash
-dreamweaver
-maya
-c/c++ (theoritically strong)
- little java
Thanks

jenod said:
Im new to application development (for android), (im a noob.. fr now ;-) ) So i thought it would be good if i team up with a experienced group or developers. Im ready to work for you(whoever is willing to recruit me first)
Wht i know
-photoshop
-flash
-dreamweaver
-maya
-c/c++ (theoritically strong)
- little java
Thanks
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I'm in the same situation
- C/C++
- SQL
- Java

Would be helpful if you also included the types of programs you were interested in working on.

Good idea
Its a good idea if we all freshers hook up together. wht you say? and after that we will get some experienced developer to lead us

RoboPhred said:
Would be helpful if you also included the types of programs you were interested in working on.
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For android always java is best(according to the arcticles i read) so obviously JAVA

I know an app I would pay for is one that could control the video functions of a PS3 with my phone. I would think it is possible since the the PS3 remote uses bluetooth, but I'm not a developer so it might not be possible.

I don't know if you've done this already but google provides all the sdk material on their android developers site. They also give instructions on how to get started using the sdk. Pretty much everything seems to be built on java. Have fun!
Google provides almost all the tutorials and instructions you could ever need to begin developing.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

yea you should start at http://developer.android.com/index.html if you know java you should be good to go after reading and doing the tutorials

Thanks
I already read those things. Anyway thanks for your support and encouragment. and im now done with
->installed eclipse
->installed android sdk
->connected both eclipse and android sdk
-> now reading a book on how to develop android apps(in chapter 3 now)
All i need
-> some good friends(those who like to develop android apps,its okay if you are noobs)
->One experienced developer to guide me [this is optional ;-)]

jenod said:
Im new to application development (for android), (im a noob.. fr now ;-) ) So i thought it would be good if i team up with a experienced group or developers. Im ready to work for you(whoever is willing to recruit me first)
Wht i know
-photoshop
-flash
-dreamweaver
-maya
-c/c++ (theoritically strong)
- little java
Thanks
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HAHA...pretty much me too. Been debating about getting started for just over a year now. (Fireworks, Dreamweaver, Flash, Actionscript3, HTML, javascript, ~coldfusion, ~php, learning C#, can read VB, etc.)
Coming at this from a designing for training view. Been 15 yrs in technical training and looking to learn more. I got a few project ideas already and two things I really want...(which is what I am using for motivation)
As for the google tutorials...hello worlds really don't get you very far and I have looked out on web for other tuts. They all seem to have issues though...
Would appreciate feedback on the following....
-- This site/tut seems to 'assume' a whole lot and the program doesn't even work:
=== http://androidcore.com/android-programming-tutorials/182-fancy-listviews-part-one.html
(this one seems to not be showing any errors in SDK [it was first time, but not after restart] but it force closes in my emulator every time)
--This site/tut looked a bit more promising but is also has stuff that doesn't seem to work:
=== http://androidwizard.net/2010/05/create-a-context-menu-on-top-of-a-listview/
(no such thing as a OnPopulateContextMenuListener according to SDK and google site, switch(aItem.getId()) is not a supported method according to SDK, .getItem(menuInfo.position) cannot be resolved...all things a newb is at a loss to fix)
So...I am actually looking either for better tuts that get more in depth than hello world or someone from those sites that I can correspond with (as a trainer my OCD is really bothered by missing info in what look like the right kind of tut.)
Anyway...jenod...if you get some newbs together to work on stuff...I'd be interested.

Thanks for your feedback.. wil surely PM u if i get some(i mean developers)..

(why) does Android
Know what would be totally awesome? If someone like (why the lucky stiff) wrote something poigniant, beautiful and easy-to-follow to lead someone into Android app development! Something that reads almost like his Poigniant Guide to Ruby or like Chris Pine's Learn to Program.

Ya I have just started in android development. I have had many years of experience in all sorts of languages java, perl, python, c++, c#, and c. I also have a start on one project that would be great to have a group of people to work together with. I am very interested with this. Hope this works out, shoot me a PM if you want.

Hey guys!
awesome idea, i study informatics in second year now and iam just done with my JAVA lessons. Maybe i could help u, cuz i want to learn programming apps for andoid in my holiday too.
I also have an Idea for an app.
So PM me if u still need some help.
mfg X

Please PM if you would like to make a team, I too am interested and have multiple ideas for apps that can be made and released quickly

Thanks
I have to really thank you ppl for your piceless support.
Interested ppl you can PM me your Personal info(ur name,age,interests and wht u know).
Thanks

jenod said:
I have to really thank you ppl for your piceless support.
Interested ppl you can PM me your Personal info(ur name,age,interests and wht u know).
Thanks
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PM'd, any suggestions for apps to make as our starting point?

Hey idk if you all have seen this yet, but it is worth checking out. Google has a free software developing tool in beta at the site http:// appinventor .googlelabs .com
The beta requires an invite much like google voice but it looks to have some potential.
(type the url into the internet, I had to add spaces because I cannot post urls yet)
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

Shadomastr said:
Hey idk if you all have seen this yet, but it is worth checking out. Google has a free software developing tool in beta at the site http:// appinventor .googlelabs .com
The beta requires an invite much like google voice but it looks to have some potential.
(type the url into the internet, I had to add spaces because I cannot post urls yet)
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
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It will not be as powerful as straight coding. It is meant to allow people to make little apps for themselves. One review I read even indicated that inventor apps will not be allowed in market.
(This is all early speculation, but hey it is what I read today as I went ahead and submitted my info for an invite...LOL)
Coming from Macromedia/Adobe...this would be kind of like Captivate is to Flash is to Actionscript. This would be Captivate...simple but simple.

Hey this sounds like a great idea, hope everything works out. We need take over apples app market!
JBlaze -- Evo 4G

[DEVELOPERS RECRUITING] AndroTech Development/research team

AndroTech is proud to announce its' first major appearance on xda! Kudos!
We are currently recruiting developers. Feel free to look at our website to read more about us and what projects we develop.
http://androtech.us/
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS...
Q: What exactly does AndroTech develop?
A: We build android applications. Our moddo is to build android apps that appeal to what the people want.
Q: How big is AndroTech?
A: AndroTech Development team is a small organization with very few people. But with some more recruitments, we will have our first application built in no time!
Q: So you haven't built even just one application yet?
A: Well in short, no. But like we said, our organization is small and just started! Give us a month or so, and we will have our first application on the android market before you know it!
Q: Sounds like you got your stuff together. But I don't want to be a developer, I just want to donate. Is that possible?
A: Not yet, because the donation portion of the website is still under maintenance, but check back later and it should be up!
Q: What skills exactly do you need to have to be accepted to join AndroTech?
A: It is actually very easy to join AndroTech! We are all small town people just like the average Joe, and we all have our strengths and weaknesses. As long as you have knowledge in Java, XML, HTML (or even just one of the 3) you can become one of us!
Once again, we are recruiting developers! You may join us by going to our website, located at the top of this post!
If I haven't answered all of your questions about my organization, you may feel free to post below to add any feedback or comments!

[DEVELOPERS][RECRUITING] AndroTech Development Team

AndroTech is proud to announce its' first major appearance on xda! Kudos!
We are currently recruiting developers. Feel free to look at our website to read more about us and what projects we develop.
http://androtech.us/
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS...
Q: What exactly does AndroTech develop?
A: We build android applications. Our moddo is to build android apps that appeal to what the people want.
Q: How big is AndroTech?
A: AndroTech Development team is a small organization with very few people. But with some more recruitments, we will have our first application built in no time!
Q: So you haven't built even just one application yet?
A: Well in short, no. But like we said, our organization is small and just started! Give us a month or so, and we will have our first application on the android market before you know it!
Q: Sounds like you got your stuff together. But I don't want to be a developer, I just want to donate. Is that possible?
A: Not yet, because the donation portion of the website is still under maintenance, but check back later and it should be up!
Q: What skills exactly do you need to have to be accepted to join AndroTech?
A: It is actually very easy to join AndroTech! We are all small town people just like the average Joe, and we all have our strengths and weaknesses. As long as you have knowledge in Java, XML, HTML (or even just one of the 3) you can become one of us!
Once again, we are recruiting developers! You may join us by going to our website, located at the top of this post!
If I haven't answered all of your questions about my organization, you may feel free to post below to add any feedback or comments!

im kind of noobish at building apps, i have build 2 but im willing to learn more and contribute
count me in if you like!