Did a Google and forum search and couldn't find anything concrete. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Did a Google and forum search and couldn't find anything concrete. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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With 4.3, the bootloader is locked permanent and at the moment there's no way to unlock. Once on 4.3 you can't downgrade or flash custom rom/kernel or custom recovery, however, you can root 4.3 with saferoot here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
So no CWM? Is anyone working on it? What about this "Safestrap"?
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So no CWM? Is anyone working on it? What about this "Safestrap"?
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Yes no CWM or TWRP since the bootloader is locked. Safestrap is a method of installing a separate loader from the locked one, it's working on some model like att S4, note, but not Verizon S3. The software is not stable yet, still have many bugs and glitches. I won't touch it...not just yet.
Lol ok. Well at least we have root.
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Lol ok. Well at least we have root.
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I'm still keeping my ears open for an unlocked bootloder. Root is all well and good, but I'm getting jittery about flashing a different rom. Any news about progress on this?
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I'm still keeping my ears open for an unlocked bootloder. Root is all well and good, but I'm getting jittery about flashing a different rom. Any news about progress on this?
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The bootloader will never be unlocked. The original bootloader on the Verizon s3 wasn't even "unlocked." It was a completely different boot image that was leaked. AFAIK, no bootloader has ever been unlocked through hard coding. There are simply loopholes & workarounds. Kexec and Safestrap are two examples of workarounds. They are pretty much just as good as the real thing so there is still hope for those crack-flashers taken off guard by the new update.
Still, I can't sympathize with people who start threads like these: There have been countless "I took the 4.3 update. How do I flash ROMs?" posts. If you were really into flashing, you would never be in this situation.
It's the cardinal rule. NEVER ACCEPT OTAs!!!!!!
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The bootloader will never be unlocked. The original bootloader on the Verizon s3 wasn't even "unlocked." It was a completely different boot image that was leaked. AFAIK, no bootloader has ever been unlocked through hard coding. There are simply loopholes & workarounds. Kexec and Safestrap are two examples of workarounds. They are pretty much just as good as the real thing so there is still hope for those crack-flashers taken off guard by the new update.
Still, I can't sympathize with people who start threads like these: There have been countless "I took the 4.3 update. How do I flash ROMs?" posts. If you were really into flashing, you would never be in this situation.
It's the cardinal rule. NEVER ACCEPT OTAs!!!!!!
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You didn't have to word it in that way. You sounded as if you were talking to a child, and then told me, in not so many words "Boo hoo, cry about it". This thread is old and I've learned quit a bit since then so next time you necro post, how about not being such a ****?
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You didn't have to word it in that way. You sounded as if you were talking to a child, and then told me, in not so many words "Boo hoo, cry about it". This thread is old and I've learned quit a bit since then so next time you necro post, how about not being such a ****?
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Didn't mean to come off as a ****. I was just responding to the bootloader comment and went off on a rant. Sorry if you were offended.
I was, but you are one of the few who take responsibility for offending someone, so it's cool.
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Still, I can't sympathize with people who start threads like these
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This was the part that offended me the most. Now, I'm by no means a noob, but I am man enough to admit there are LOTS of things I don't know. This phone was my brothers. HE took the OTA then traded it to me. So I was trying to find a way out of it. I've come to terms (I think) with being stuck with a locked bootloader but I am hopeful about kexec. Who knows?
Apology accepted.
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Yeah since I didn't even know your whole story, I wasn't necessarily referring to you (even though it sounded like that). I was more referring to people that said they knowingly accepted the OTA. I just worded it very poorly.
That's unfortunate how you ended up with the locked bootloader, but the devs we have are outstanding and I'm sure they'll get a workaround going very soon. :good:
Haha This is what happened when no one unlocked the boot loader..lol
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Don't do it!!!I unlocked the boot loader with ez unlock app and booted into recovery and hard bricked my sch i535. Just got it back got fixed with jtag. Gabbyanne on eBay is a life saver... Don't do it to yourself. Trust me
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Germanlopez007 said:
Don't do it!!!I unlocked the boot loader with ez unlock app and booted into recovery and hard bricked my sch i535. Just got it back got fixed with jtag. Gabbyanne on eBay is a life saver... Don't do it to yourself. Trust me
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Out of curiosity did jtag get you back to 4.1.2? I don't think anyone has reported one way or the other. From what I understand it should be impossible even for jtag but it's always good to verify.
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Out of curiosity did jtag get you back to 4.1.2? I don't think anyone has reported one way or the other. From what I understand it should be impossible even for jtag but it's always good to verify.
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It is impossible, you can't jtag the bootloader over the 4.3 baseband. It's more complicated after the update because the hardware keys are different. Changing the bootloader is only changing the software.
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It is impossible, you can't jtag the bootloader over the 4.3 baseband. It's more complicated after the update because the hardware keys are different. Changing the bootloader is only changing the software.
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I know just waned to make sure. You can never be sure until it is tried. For example invisiblek said that the ml1 firmware will brick the phone if you upgrade from a phone with the insecure bootloader because that's what happened to the s4 that took a 4.3 upgrade. Well I know from experience that wasn't true. Theory is just that until it has been tested who knows what samsung might have forgotten to do that might allow jtag to do that. Plus I have yet to hear if anyone has tried. Not saying it hasn't been done I just haven't seen anyone say more than got it back and it works.
*edit* I just found that thread he said you will brick and I must of missed the part where he said you probably wont if you upgrade the entire boot chain. But how would you end up in that scenario of being bricked? The root66 tars took out the entire boot chain and added only the insecure bootloader.
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I know just waned to make sure. You can never be sure until it is tried. For example invisiblek said that the ml1 firmware will brick the phone if you upgrade from a phone with the insecure bootloader because that's what happened to the s4 that took a 4.3 upgrade. Well I know from experience that wasn't true. Theory is just that until it has been tested who knows what samsung might have forgotten to do that might allow jtag to do that. Plus I have yet to hear if anyone has tried. Not saying it hasn't been done I just haven't seen anyone say more than got it back and it works.
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I get what you're saying, if it wasn't hardware coded then it could theoretically work.
The same thing could be accomplished through Odin though by flashing boot chains, ez unlock also proves it's hardware signed. Jtag would do the same thing ez unlock does, just on a more holistic level.
Best bet would be to Jtag a 4.3 developer edition bootloader, but I don't think it exists, because making one widely available for developer edition phones would be handing us an unlocked bootloader. They'd have to be made on a per phone basis with specific keys for each device. I highly doubt it exists, but if it did it might work if we could figure out how it's getting around the bootloader, like what step it's bypassing.
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I get what you're saying, if it wasn't hardware coded then it could theoretically work.
The same thing could be accomplished through Odin though by flashing boot chains, ez unlock also proves it's hardware signed. Jtag would do the same thing ez unlock does, just on a more holistic level.
Best bet would be to Jtag a 4.3 developer edition bootloader, but I don't think it exists, because making one widely available for developer edition phones would be handing us an unlocked bootloader. They'd have to be made on a per phone basis with specific keys for each device. I highly doubt it exists, but if it did it might work if we could figure out how it's getting around the bootloader, like what step it's bypassing.
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Truth but I had a idea a couple months ago but I don't have the balls to try it. With these qualcomm gs3 phones there is a emergency boot from sd card for the aboot. If you were hard bricked it might be possible to boot to the insecure bootloader that way. You could never do the flash back trick with terminal emulate so it wouldn't be a true fix but who cares unless you need your sd card (I do but I have learned to love 4.3).
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Truth but I had a idea a couple months ago but I don't have the balls to try it. With these qualcomm gs3 phones there is a emergency boot from sd card for the aboot. If you were hard bricked it might be possible to boot to the insecure bootloader that way. You could never do the flash back trick with terminal emulate so it wouldn't be a true fix but who cares unless you need your sd card (I do but I have learned to love 4.3).
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Really?
Ya, if you could do that you could simply run straight from the aboot file without the secure checks. That might actually work, but you'd have to get the insecure aboot loaded without it locking the phone, you'd have to try it immediately after loading the aboot image before a reboot.
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Really?
Ya, if you could do that you could simply run straight from the aboot file without the secure checks. That might actually work, but you'd have to get the insecure aboot loaded without it locking the phone, you'd have to try it immediately after loading the aboot image before a reboot.
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well you would need the debrick file from the insecure bootloader. that is what the debrick image is its the aboot image. So now that I think about it a little more the only way that would work is if qualcomm has its own bootchain and I would not doubt if it did but I am not technical enough to figure that out. the only way for people like me to find out is try and I will not purposelessly brick to try. I cant even justify asking someone who is hard bricked to try it. They are already mad it happened why add that extra stress.
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holy cow its 3:23 here I better go to bed so I can wake up at 9 and hopefully not fall asleep driving tomorrow.
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Hi All,
OK, bootloader is unlocked, I am working on recovery, so the next challenge is....................S-OFF!!! Aw, f%@ck, I thought i had my life back...
I invite all users with ideas and/or knowledge to jump in and tell me what they think I am doing right and what makes me a moron. I have no pride, so lay it on me.
I will post progress reports in Post #2.
Anyway, here's to getting this done quickly.
Steve
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JSLEnterprises said:
Excellent.
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Thought I'd get out of your thread and the root thread....
sk806 said:
Thought I'd get out of your thread and the root thread....
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I had to send another message to red not to reopen the think tank thread (title would have been edited obviously), but to still go ahead with the cleanups... lol
Sorry if I'm totally off base here but I do believe reading on XDA somewhere that with the HTC One series phones when you unlock the bootloader it locks the phone from being able to flash recoverys.
This is the reason why I have waited to do the bootloader unlock I didnt want to screw myself from ever being able to flash custom roms.
you have to use this unlock method for the bootloader so why would it screw anything else up? It opens up all possibilities, not close them.
killathenoob said:
Sorry if I'm totally off base here but I do believe reading on XDA somewhere that with the HTC One series phones when you unlock the bootloader it locks the phone from being able to flash recoverys.
This is the reason why I have waited to do the bootloader unlock I didnt want to screw myself from ever being able to flash custom roms.
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Nope. I have flashed CWM recovery at least 4 times on an international One X AFTER unlocking the bootloader. I wish that were it....
I think you may be thinking of firmware, which is a real mess, because unlocking your bootloader can set your CID to "none", and thus, you can't flash different firmware (i.e., an EU firmware on an Asian phone)...not that that would matter for these carrier-branded phones...
Good job and great progress. Unfortunately, none of us AT&T users can join in on the fun.
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Sorry if I'm totally off base here but I do believe reading on XDA somewhere that with the HTC One series phones when you unlock the bootloader it locks the phone from being able to flash recoverys.
This is the reason why I have waited to do the bootloader unlock I didnt want to screw myself from ever being able to flash custom roms.
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If that was completely true, then the Tegra 3 model's would not have cwm recovery... yet they do.
We just havent figured out a working method for ours.
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If that was completely true, then the Tegra 3 model's would not have cwm recovery... yet they do.
We just havent figured out a working method for ours.
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i think what Killathehnoob is trying to say is that its only the ROGERS version of the ONE X that when unlocking the BLer HTC has somehow lock the other partitions so that custom recoveries and kernels are not able to be flashed to the phone...which essentially could be the case because all they said they will "unlock" the BLer...BUT they never said they would NOT do anything else in the process. maybe its a possibillity that has been over looked...just THINK TANKING is all
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i think what Killathehnoob is trying to say is that its only the ROGERS version of the ONE X that when unlocking the BLer HTC has somehow lock the other partitions so that custom recoveries and kernels are not able to be flashed to the phone...which essentially could be the case because all they said they will "unlock" the BLer...BUT they never said they would NOT do anything else in the process. maybe its a possibillity that has been over looked...
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I understand what you mean
I wonder if the fact that its new proprietary qualcomm chip is the reason why its being 'limited'... so we may have to rethink the whole initialization process.
we cant even get to the point that the logcat is able to start logging. So we're flying blind.
We've extended the time between loading to the soft reboot after the flash... but that doesnt tell us much.
I found the artice I read check it out
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/05/02/i...bootloader-unlock-tool-on-one-series-devices/
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I found the artice I read check it out
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/05/02/i...bootloader-unlock-tool-on-one-series-devices/
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Interesting. I think the lack is fastboot boot is what they are referring to. This would prevent custom kernel development on an s-off device, but should still allow flashing of insecure stock boot images, as with the int. HOX, althoug i read it again, anf maybe they are talking about more than that. I am not sure that the article is saying that there is something different with the Rogers version vs other versions, but it seems like there may be, and obviously with the Att version. I think I will spend a day just reading, trying to pick other devs' brains, and start fresh...thanks for the input.
Steve
sk806 said:
Interesting. I think the lack is fastboot boot is what they are referring to. This would prevent custom kernels being flashed on an s-off device, but should still allow flashing of insecure stock boot images, as with the int. HOX. I am not sure that the article is saying that there is something different with the Rogers version, but it seems like there may be, and obviously with the Att version. I think I will spend a day just reading, trying to pick other devs' brains, and start fresh...thanks for the input.
Steve
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The 'fastboot boot' command works however, its how we got root in the first place.
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killathenoob said:
I found the artice I read check it out
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/05/02/i...bootloader-unlock-tool-on-one-series-devices/
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Here is the actual rootzwikk article
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/articles/dear-htc-can-we-have-our-phones-back-r709
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The fastboot boot command works however, its how we got root in the first place.
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Whoa, very interesting. I was certain it did not on the Int one x.
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The 'fastboot boot' command works however, its how we got root in the first place.
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Just to be clear, you are not referring to fastboot flash boot, right?
Edit, nevermind, jut looked at Paul's post, it is fastboot boot. Wow.
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I found the artice I read check it out
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/05/02/i...bootloader-unlock-tool-on-one-series-devices/
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Again thanks for this. Back to the drawing board!!!!
Ok I got overly excited with the news of the bootloader being unlocked. So I flashed the unsecure boot loader to my phone and everything went fine. So I decided to go ahead and extract the the kernel I was using from the zip so I didn't have to use kexec anymore. Anyway I read a post incorrectly and flashed the kernel to the wrong partition on my phone and got a hard brick. I can't get into odin or clockwork recovery, only a black screen. I saw another post I accidently flashed it to dd if=/sdcard/aboot.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p5
If I plug it into my computer I get the popup to install the QHSUSB_DLOAD. If there is anyway to recover this please let me know!
Time to get your story straight.... "I just turned it off and it won't turn back on??? Maybe my chargers broken?"
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Ok I got overly excited with the news of the bootloader being unlocked. So I flashed the unsecure boot loader to my phone and everything went fine. So I decided to go ahead and extract the the kernel I was using from the zip so I didn't have to use kexec anymore. Anyway I read a post incorrectly and flashed the kernel to the wrong partition on my phone and got a hard brick. I can't get into odin or clockwork recovery, only a black screen. I saw another post I accidently flashed it to dd if=/sdcard/aboot.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p5
If I plug it into my computer I get the popup to install the QHSUSB_DLOAD. If there is anyway to recover this please let me know!
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Not to be a **** but damn dude WTF..Why would you do that. Anyways i think the only way to recovery is jtag since you are getting qhsusb_dload but i dont know. pm adam and ask him maybe he can help you out
Wait you tried to unzip the kernel in your pc? For what exactly? How did you flashed it back unzipped?
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jgrimberg1979 said:
Not to be a **** but damn dude WTF..Why would you do that. Anyways i think the only way to recovery is jtag since you are getting qhsusb_dload but i dont know. pm adam and ask him maybe he can help you out
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Yeah I effed up majorly. I was on a droid x for 2 years before so I'm new with kernel flashing. So jtag is the only option?
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Yeah I effed up majorly. I was on a droid x for 2 years before so I'm new with kernel flashing. So jtag is the only option?
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You can try a USB Jig to force your phone into Download mode, but if it's truly hardbricked then JTAG or getting a replacement are your only options.
I hate to go off topic and say this but this could be one potential reason as to why the idiots at Verizon want to lock stuff.
Why not wait for things to settle down before trying it out without knowing?
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I hate to go off topic and say this but this could be one potential reason as to why the idiots at Verizon want to lock stuff.
Why not wait for things to settle down before trying it out without knowing?
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we're only human if i had this phone and saw this unlocked bootloader i would get excited about it as well lol i feel for the man/woman
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I hate to go off topic and say this but this could be one potential reason as to why the idiots at Verizon want to lock stuff.
Why not wait for things to settle down before trying it out without knowing?
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Yeah thanks I realize I screwed up. I guess I was overconfident after two years of flashing stuff. I just need to know if there are any tools to reflash the aboot I effed up.
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Yeah thanks I realize I screwed up. I guess I was overconfident after two years of flashing stuff. I just need to know if there are any tools to reflash the aboot I effed up.
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Does pressing power home + vol down not do anything?
Contact Adam he might be able to help
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Not to be a **** but damn dude WTF..Why would you do that. Anyways i think the only way to recovery is jtag since you are getting qhsusb_dload but i dont know. pm adam and ask him maybe he can help you out
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Sucks, OP.
And don't even bother writing Adam. I don't know him, but I read his threads. He just had a major accomplishment (with help) and he will probably not even respond. Let him have his day/peace. He earned it. You admit that you jumped the gun.
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I hate to go off topic and say this but this could be one potential reason as to why the idiots at Verizon want to lock stuff.
Why not wait for things to settle down before trying it out without knowing?
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Ohhh..c'monnnn- he/she was a Droid X user. As a fellow X2 encrypted bootloader ****ing never unlocked I was excited as **** about it being cracked too.
I'm not ****ing with my kernel or nothing.. but.. I couldn't resist. Been on lock down for 2 years- pre ordered the phone and come to find out they locked this ****er too.
Don't be so hard on the guy/gal.. :angel:
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Does pressing power home + vol down not do anything?
Contact Adam he might be able to help
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I sent him a message but no response yet. I tried that and I still get nothing thanks though. I've read every page of the bootloader research by adam I saw this on his original post:
"op5= aboot
This block is signed by Samsung, we will not be able to modify it
This block contains HTML information. It would appear that it is possible to put the device into a mode where it will provide a webserver which displays state information.
This block appears to be a complete operating system
This block contains the Loke Daemon which communicates with Odin3."
I take this to mean there is no way for me to communicate with odin now and jig wouldn't be able to force it into odin either since I overwrote the 0p5 block. I guess thats it since I don't have a jtag set up.
Have you considered inquiring about JTAG rates from these folks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnA8Djs55Ds&list=UUpntFTjw320ZgqHUEndzg0g&index=2&feature=plcp
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You flashed the kernel to the aboot partition, most likely meaning no booty booty to get into a state (download mode) where you can ODIN to stock. That being said, looks like you'll be JTAGing in your near future. Curious about prices, if you do it!
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Have you considered inquiring about JTAG rates from these folks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnA8Djs55Ds&list=UUpntFTjw320ZgqHUEndzg0g&index=2&feature=plcp
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It's $60
http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-jtag-brick-repair/
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Have you considered inquiring about JTAG rates from these folks?
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Thanks for the link, it looks like thats my only option for getting it fixed.
This is why using dd to flash stuff can be dangerous. "I'm fairly certain it will flash Tetris.Apk to your bootloader partition if you tell it to" to quote one of the devs from my Thunderbolt days.
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This is why using dd to flash stuff can be dangerous. "I'm fairly certain it will flash Tetris.Apk to your bootloader partition if you tell it to" to quote one of the devs from my Thunderbolt days.
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It will and it will ENJOY it.
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This is why using dd to flash stuff can be dangerous. "I'm fairly certain it will flash Tetris.Apk to your bootloader partition if you tell it to" to quote one of the devs from my Thunderbolt days.
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dd = disk destroyer :laugh:
Just got an upgrade from my carrier (a small local carrier) and I chose the s3. Came from some Motorola peice of fail. I'm looking to root and flash an insecure bootloader but I have encountered a confusing conflict. Having a Verizon model phone with a us cellular build of android loaded. And yes I'm certain it is a Verizon model phone (google schi535mbb if you don't believe me) with us cellular stock rom loaded (with some tweeks like 4g disabled). Rom and software model say the following R530 & d2usc. Bootloader is I535VRALE6 baseband I535VRLF2. This as far as I can tell was acomplished by a company called ultimobile. Which customizes devices to function on small mobile carriers. If anybody has any ideas or suggestions on what I might try, please let me know. I just don't want to screw something up and have a brick, just coming from a device that was all but brickable.
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Just got an upgrade from my carrier (a small local carrier) and I chose the s3. Came from some Motorola peice of fail. I'm looking to root and flash an insecure bootloader but I have encountered a confusing conflict. Having a Verizon model phone with a us cellular build of android loaded. And yes I'm certain it is a Verizon model phone (google schi535mbb if you don't believe me) with us cellular stock rom loaded (with some tweeks like 4g disabled). Rom and software model say the following R530 & d2usc. Bootloader is I535VRALE6 baseband I535VRLF2. This as far as I can tell was acomplished by a company called ultimobile. Which customizes devices to function on small mobile carriers. If anybody has any ideas or suggestions on what I might try, please let me know. I just don't want to screw something up and have a brick, just coming from a device that was all but brickable.
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Interesting. From the sound of it it may just be software blocked. Verizon root and unlock should work. The trick is gonna be finding software that will work with that carrier. If it is using straight UC Cellular may be able to run what those guys are running. If it is that small carrier that controls access then that would be the problem. Without a backup of the stock rom don't know how you would get it running again. According to the numbers it is a Verizon S3 running Us Cellular. Good luck.
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Interesting. From the sound of it it may just be software blocked. Verizon root and unlock should work. The trick is gonna be finding software that will work with that carrier. If it is using straight UC Cellular may be able to run what those guys are running. If it is that small carrier that controls access then that would be the problem. Without a backup of the stock rom don't know how you would get it running again. According to the numbers it is a Verizon S3 running Us Cellular. Good luck.
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The recovery that's on it right now has built in options for nvbackup. From what I've read that is the radio, imei, and other files used to connect to the network. I was gonna make several backups of everything as soon as I gained root control. The real problem comes down to when I go to throw cm on here. Figuring out which vzw or usc will cooperate with the carrier files.
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The recovery that's on it right now has built in options for nvbackup. From what I've read that is the radio, imei, and other files used to connect to the network. I was gonna make several backups of everything as soon as I gained root control. The real problem comes down to when I go to throw cm on here. Figuring out which vzw or usc will cooperate with the carrier files.
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Make a nandroid backup and maybe post to see what your running as?
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Make a nandroid backup and maybe post to see what your running as?
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Was definitely gonna make a nandroid, but as for 'post to see what I'm running as' what do you mean?
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Was definitely gonna make a nandroid, but as for 'post to see what I'm running as' what do you mean?
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Maybe the build.prop?
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Maybe the build.prop?
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Here ya go. Have fun http://pastebin.com/eUj5z2VT
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Here ya go. Have fun http://pastebin.com/eUj5z2VT
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Looks like us cellular under the ultimobile ID?
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Looks like us cellular under the ultimobile ID?
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It's weird though right? I'm not sure how to go about suggesting how to flash roms. I have to side with prdog1 and say it's a VZW GSIII running USC. I really can't suggest a good way to proceed since it's hard to tell what you would use to revert back to stock in case of emergences.
Anyone familiar with Team US Cellular? Any input from there?
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Looks like us cellular under the ultimobile ID?
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thats what i saw too. the difficult thing to figure out is if to use the verizon unlock and root or the us cellular model. it is most definately a verizon model of phone just loaded up with us cell software. ive flashed verizon a based rom over a locked down motorola peice of fail, but that couldnt touch the kernel, base band, or anything but the system with out it requiring a complete reflash to stock. i dont exactly have that option if every thing screws up in the process of gaining root. id have to take it into the store and wait till they can reflash it there.
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thats what i saw too. the difficult thing to figure out is if to use the verizon unlock and root or the us cellular model. it is most definately a verizon model of phone just loaded up with us cell software. ive flashed verizon a based rom over a locked down motorola peice of fail, but that couldnt touch the kernel, base band, or anything but the system with out it requiring a complete reflash to stock. i dont exactly have that option if every thing screws up in the process of gaining root. id have to take it into the store and wait till they can reflash it there.
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I'm fairly certain you should use the unified toolkit to root and maybe unroot. In your build.prop, I noticed it reads on the fifth line:
ro.build.version.incremental=R530UVXALK5
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and the toolkit supports LK5 build for the d2usc. I think they're both locked down the same but on Team US Cellular's website that's what I'm seeing some people have used too. Idk about your specific case using another carrier but a d2usc GSIII but I'm thinking that's a start. Idk about returning to stock though.
Edit: Gonna add this, this means there is an Odin flashable of LK5 available somewhere.
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I'm fairly certain you should use the unified toolkit to root and maybe unroot. In your build.prop, I noticed it reads on the fifth line:
and the toolkit supports LK5 build for the d2usc. I think they're both locked down the same but on Team US Cellular's website that's what I'm seeing some people have used too. Idk about your specific case using another carrier but a d2usc GSIII but I'm thinking that's a start. Idk about returning to stock though.
Edit: Gonna add this, this means there is an Odin flashable of LK5 available somewhere.
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really i need to gain fastboot access to the phone. there are some files i need to check and i need to pull the special recovery that came with the phone. if i can do that i should be able to pull what i need from the phone to be able to return to stock. im also gonna perform an nvback up, a qpst backup and the synergy back up. but first things first i need fastboot access to the phone. i know how to get into recovery and download mode but for the life of me i cant figure out how to get to a fastboot compliant mode. from there i can figure how im gonna proceed to root.
edit: what i see in download mode
odin mode
Product name: sch--i535
custom binary download: yes (1 counts)
current binary: custom
system status: custom
Qualcom secureboot: enable
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really i need to gain fastboot access to the phone. there are some files i need to check and i need to pull the special recovery that came with the phone. if i can do that i should be able to pull what i need from the phone to be able to return to stock. im also gonna perform an nvback up, a qpst backup and the synergy back up. but first things first i need fastboot access to the phone. i know how to get into recovery and download mode but for the life of me i cant figure out how to get to a fastboot compliant mode. from there i can figure how im gonna proceed to root.
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Product name: sch--i535
custom binary download: yes (1 counts)
current binary: custom
system status: custom
Qualcom secureboot: enable
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Here's a left field suggestion, could you call this UltiMobile company and ask about what they used?
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Here's a left field suggestion, could you call this UltiMobile company and ask about what they used?
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havent done that yet. its on a list of things to do the problem is that everywhere they put information out they say to contact the carrier not them for everything. i may just have to wait till the phone isnt so new at my carrier and let the IT department play around with it for a while. i can then get information from them.
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havent done that yet. its on a list of things to do the problem is that everywhere they put information out they say to contact the carrier not them for everything. i may just have to wait till the phone isnt so new at my carrier and let the IT department play around with it for a while. i can then get information from them.
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That's real tricky but sounds like your best option. At least you're rooted and unlocked with the VRALE6 bootloader and can debloat. Out of curiosity, what recovery are you using that has all these options?
As an aside, this table tells you where the recovery partition is. I've heard of people using dd commands to pull whatever partition they want to their sdcard but idk how viable an option this is in terms of pushing a recovery to that partition. I'm not recommending you try it either.
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That's real tricky but sounds like your best option. At least you're rooted and unlocked with the VRALE6 bootloader and can debloat. Out of curiosity, what recovery are you using that has all these options?
As an aside, this table tells you where the recovery partition is. I've heard of people using dd commands to pull whatever partition they want to their sdcard but idk how viable an option this is in terms of pushing a recovery to that partition. I'm not recommending you try it either.
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The vrale6 is unlocked? If so then why does it say that the qualcom secure boot is enabled. And I haven't rooted just yet but am working on it. Its a recovery built by ultimobile.
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Lrs121 said:
The vrale6 is unlocked? If so then why does it say that the qualcom secure boot is enabled. And I haven't rooted just yet but am working on it. Its a recovery built by ultimobile.
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Yes indeed. VRALE6 is the prerelease bootloader that was leaked which EVERY d2vzw (d2usc I suppose too) uses in order to allow flashing of roms/kernels. It's a little weird to explain but basically everyone's Download Mode reads almost the same. Mine reads "custom binary: Samsung Official" though and I'm rooted/unlocked. Idk the technical or even the proper way to explain it but the unlocked VRALE6 bootloader has no bearing on what Download mode says. Although your custom binary should be at 0 if/when you do warranty exchanges.
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Yes indeed. VRALE6 is the prerelease bootloader that was leaked which EVERY d2vzw (d2usc I suppose too) uses in order to allow flashing of roms/kernels. It's a little weird to explain but basically everyone's Download Mode reads almost the same. Mine reads "custom binary: Samsung Official" though and I'm rooted/unlocked. Idk the technical or even the proper way to explain it but the unlocked VRALE6 bootloader has no bearing on what Download mode says. Although your custom binary should be at 0 if/when you do warranty exchanges.
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Ah makes sense now it just doesn't do a hash/encryption check. I've dealt with a lot of bootloader stuff with my old phone. the phone came like that with the count at 1. Was like that before I tried anything. Probably was triggered when the d2usc stock was flashed onto it. Which probably means I should stick with d2usc builds to ensure compatibility with connecting with my carrier.
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okay i upgraded to 4.3 OTA and tried to revert back and soft bricked my phone. I still have access to download mode and the stock recovery. I know now that i can not revert but is there any way of getting it back to 4.3 so i can have a phone again?
thanks for the future help.
This is similar what happened to me. I have never done anything with my phone as far as rooting and I tried reverting to stock 4.1.2. In Odin I kept getting the "Nand Start! Fail (Auth)" because of the locked bootloader I guess. I flashed some other firmware that was unofficial with the locked bootloader and now I get the "unauthorized software detected" and I cant do anything but enter Odin download mode. What should I do?
that is exactly what is happing to me. same error and all.
Once you took the OTA 4.3 you got locked in. No way of going back.
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I dont want to go back just get rid of the soft brick so i can use it
im having the same problem and need to get it fixed please help anyone???!!!! im leaving for florida in two days and have nothing else. HELP!!!!
If you took the OTA and tried to flash 4.1.2 Odin or unlock bootloader you are Hard bricked , no method or recovering it yet.
If you have stock recovery and download mode , only hope is wait for 4.3 .tar file
Theres no custom recovery I can flash and flash some other software or something?
Elemt said:
Theres no custom recovery I can flash and flash some other software or something?
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Nope , once you take 4.3 OTA you done , no flashing anything. And once you try to flash recovery or revert to older software you are bricked.
Sorry to be the bear of bad news.
There is a full thread of why and how so many devices have been bricked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575661
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Nope , once you take 4.3 OTA you done , no flashing anything. And once you try to flash recovery or revert to older software you are bricked.
Sorry to be the bear of bad news.
There is a full thread of why and how so many devices have been bricked
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2575661
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Do you know if anyone is working on a fix? or a .tar file of 4.3?
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Do you know if anyone is working on a fix? or a .tar file of 4.3?
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Thanks for the info. hopefully a fix will be done soon. And do you know how i should keep to see when the work around is finished .
thanks in advanced guys.
This might give you a chance to unbrick.... possibly
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2581166
I got the "unauthorised software detected" on my phone like 3 days ago from messing up on a recovery and all I did was go into the Verizon store and said idk what happened and they called technical support and they asked me if I flashed software on my phone and I just said "no, I just plugged it into my laptop and it did this" so they said they will just send me a new sgs3 and I just got it today.
Pretty simple.
And I don't have insurance .
Hit thanks if I helped
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ScubaSteev said:
I got the "unauthorised software detected" on my phone like 3 days ago from messing up on a recovery and all I did was go into the Verizon store and said idk what happened and they called technical support and they asked me if I flashed software on my phone and I just said "no, I just plugged it into my laptop and it did this" so they said they will just send me a new sgs3 and I just got it today.
Pretty simple.
And I don't have insurance .
Hit thanks if I helped
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Funny thing is Verizon can tell if phone was hacked with, and can choose to add the cost of phone to your bill so this method is not highly recommended.
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Funny thing is Verizon can tell if phone was hacked with, and can choose to add the cost of phone to your bill so this method is not highly recommended.
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Any break throughs????
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Any break throughs????
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None that I have seen
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jlyle said:
Funny thing is Verizon can tell if phone was hacked with, and can choose to add the cost of phone to your bill so this method is not highly recommended.
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Not to mention it is basically fraud, and is the main reason Verizon decided to start locking down phones in the first place.
I understand everyone is taking risks when flashing custom, and flashes can go wrong even when you do everything right, but there is VERY little chance of bricking your phone if you take your time and do a bit of research before you hit any buttons. And if you do manage to brick your phone, man up and pay for a new phone or pay for it to be fixed. Otherwise stop treating your $600 piece of technology like a toy.
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Not to mention it is basically fraud, and is the main reason Verizon decided to start locking down phones in the first place.
I understand everyone is taking risks when flashing custom, and flashes can go wrong even when you do everything right, but there is VERY little chance of bricking your phone if you take your time and do a bit of research before you hit any buttons. And if you do manage to brick your phone, man up and pay for a new phone or pay for it to be fixed. Otherwise stop treating your $600 piece of technology like a toy.
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The first time I ever rooted, I was worried about bricking. So i read everything I could find relevant.
Why in the world anyone would flash without reading is beyond me. Every single thread in Verizon Galaxy S3 at least mentions, if not totally devoted, to how bad 4.3 is and if you flash something on it you will brick.
I just don't get it.
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If you do a battery pull and start back up in download mode (might take a couple of times to get it to work) then use the Verizon software upgrade assistant it should fix it but you will be stuck with 4.3. Worked for me
I should start by saying I am by no means experienced with unlocking bootloaders or hacking firmware, so if this is a completely noob idea then forgive me but I thought I might as well see if I could help. Anyways, on to my idea; as we all know, the 4.3 bootloader is locked for good. So what if one was to corrupt the bootloader, like brick it on purpose to a point where the bootloader doesn't recognize any update being pushed, and then unbrick the phone with an older unlockable bootloader. Am I losing my mind due to having the locked 4.3 or is this plausible?
And while I have a thread open, could someone explain a few questions I have about knox? If knox is what is causing the bootloader to be locked and there's ways to disable knox, then wouldn't disabling knox make the bootloader unlockable?
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I should start by saying I am by no means experienced with unlocking bootloaders or hacking firmware, so if this is a completely noob idea then forgive me but I thought I might as well see if I could help. Anyways, on to my idea; as we all know, the 4.3 bootloader is locked for good. So what if one was to corrupt the bootloader, like brick it on purpose to a point where the bootloader doesn't recognize any update being pushed, and then unbrick the phone with an older unlockable bootloader. Am I losing my mind due to having the locked 4.3 or is this plausible?
And while I have a thread open, could someone explain a few questions I have about knox? If knox is what is causing the bootloader to be locked and there's ways to disable knox, then wouldn't disabling knox make the bootloader unlockable?
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This won't work.
The new update changes the keys on the entire bootloader, it's impossible to corrupt the bootloader to a point of failure because the entire thing is hard coded into the board itself. The processor is specifically able recognize the vrucml1 bootchain, and it won't boot without it, unless someone finds a way to bypass that entire mechanism (which I would consider nearly impossible.
Knox is not causing the bootloader to be locked. Verizon patched our work around for unlocking the bootloader and pushed it. Knox is simply a non reversible flash counter for rooting your device. It's coded in the bootloader and system apps to detect this.
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Ah I see. I guess I had trouble understanding that an OTA could completely and irreversibly lock a bootloader. There's got to be some kind of exploit for this at some point right? I'm not sure I can handle this 4.3 nonsense anymore!
And thanks for the knox explanation, I used to hate sprint for the things they did (like booting me for roaming) and now verizon is starting to tick me off.
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Ah I see. I guess I had trouble understanding that an OTA could completely and irreversibly lock a bootloader. There's got to be some kind of exploit for this at some point right? I'm not sure I can handle this 4.3 nonsense anymore!
And thanks for the knox explanation, I used to hate sprint for the things they did (like booting me for roaming) and now verizon is starting to tick me off.
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There is probably no chance for an exploit to completely unlock a bootloader.
Hardware hacking is almost impossible because of the type of encryption it takes to make the processor and bootchain recognize each other. It's sensitive, and you need to match the numbers specifically to perform a boot. Everyone is familiar with an md5 code, this is a fairly simple algorithm, and we all know that the slightest change in a bad download will generate a completely different md5 sum. In this case, the algorithm is much more complex, and pretty much impossible to match and trick the phone into booting an incorrect bootloader. This is why straight up hacking a bootloader an impossible feat, so we mostly make work arounds.
All our unlocked bootloader was is a very early aboot block. The bootchain trusts the aboot file, and the aboot file trusts anything you put in the recovery and system partitions. Since the new bootchain requires a signed aboot file for ML1, it makes this exploit insignificant and the aboot file doesn't trust anything else you stick in the recovery or system partition.
Loki was another exploit that was patched. Kexec is an example of a work around, and so is safestrap, but these types of workarounds won't unlock the bootloader and allow aosp Rom flashing.
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BadUsername said:
There is probably no chance for an exploit to completely unlock a bootloader.
Hardware hacking is almost impossible because of the type of encryption it takes to make the processor and bootchain recognize each other. It's sensitive, and you need to match the numbers specifically to perform a boot. Everyone is familiar with an md5 code, this is a fairly simple algorithm, and we all know that the slightest change in a bad download will generate a completely different md5 sum. In this case, the algorithm is much more complex, and pretty much impossible to match and trick the phone into booting an incorrect bootloader. This is why straight up hacking a bootloader an impossible feat, so we mostly make work arounds.
All our unlocked bootloader was is a very early aboot block. The bootchain trusts the aboot file, and the aboot file trusts anything you put in the recovery and system partitions. Since the new bootchain requires a signed aboot file for ML1, it makes this exploit insignificant and the aboot file doesn't trust anything else you stick in the recovery or system partition.
Loki was another exploit that was patched. Kexec is an example of a work around, and so is safestrap, but these types of workarounds won't unlock the bootloader and allow aosp Rom flashing.
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You are a bundle of endless info. Thank you for breaking it down like this!
Edit: I have been curious for awhile about the technical aspect of everything you detailed.
That was amazing lol thanks for clearing all that up. Now I guess the race is on to find safestrap compatible roms. I'm running wicked sensations right now through safestrap and it seems pretty good but I was looking for a rom that could force 4g
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You are a bundle of endless info. Thank you for breaking it down like this!
Edit: I have been curious for awhile about the technical aspect of everything you detailed.
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I wish I knew more coding details, like what this stuff specifically looks like, but it's interesting researching all this material.
These are the kinds of questions I like, they really make you think about what's happening. I wish more users posted questions like these. One day someone might post something that might actually work. It's good creative thinking.
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Kexec will allow flashing of aosp roms in addition to safe strap.
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Kexec will allow flashing of aosp roms in addition to safe strap.
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Kexec might be able to, but it depends of that exploit has been patched or not, that kernel mechanism can also be shut down to disallow booting of a 2nd kernel. If the modules are written a certain way you're stuck with that initial boot.
Safestrap can't, it relies on a stock kernel to run, so unless someone makes an aosp rom to run with a 4.3 touchwiz kernel it won't work.
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How did hashcode get cm 10.2 on the droid 3 using kexec and safe strap?
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I love this thread so much. Thanks BadUsername and everyone else! So why exactly can't we use Kexec?
YevOmega said:
I love this thread so much. Thanks BadUsername and everyone else! So why exactly can't we use Kexec?
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Getting kexec functionality isn't the easiest process. The holes that allowed kexec on 4.0.4 may have been patched due to the new Linux 3.0 kernel updated in newer versions.
Some developer would have to work on finding that loophole and enabling a second kernel to run.
Hashcode was able to do this on Motorola devices by rewriting the kernel modules to run differently. The way he did it wouldn't work for us anyway because they used OMAP devices. We have a qualcom processor, the loophole he used to enable kexec is completely different then what we would need to enable.
Additionally, it may not even be possible to enable kexec. The whole idea of a locked bootloader is to prevent this from happening. Loopholes constantly get patched, making enabling these types of workarounds increasingly more difficult.
Eventually the loophole that allows safestrap to even run will likely get patched. It's just the nature of making phones increasingly more difficult to root and unlock.
I hope someone has the time and passion to work on kexec, but I wouldn't necessarily count on it. There's likely a reason why it was never implemented on the s4.
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Getting kexec functionality isn't the easiest process. The holes that allowed kexec on 4.0.4 may have been patched due to the new Linux 3.0 kernel updated in newer versions.
Some developer would have to work on finding that loophole and enabling a second kernel to run.
Hashcode was able to do this on Motorola devices by rewriting the kernel modules to run differently. The way he did it wouldn't work for us anyway because they used OMAP devices. We have a qualcom processor, the loophole he used to enable kexec is completely different then what we would need to enable.
Additionally, it may not even be possible to enable kexec. The whole idea of a locked bootloader is to prevent this from happening. Loopholes constantly get patched, making enabling these types of workarounds increasingly more difficult.
Eventually the loophole that allows safestrap to even run will likely get patched. It's just the nature of making phones increasingly more difficult to root and unlock.
I hope someone has the time and passion to work on kexec, but I wouldn't necessarily count on it. There's likely a reason why it was never implemented on the s4.
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*Sigh*
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*Sigh*
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It's not the worst thing. In my opinion this phone runs really well on touchwiz roms anyway. Give some time for more roms to come out. Tkrom, cleanrom and jellybeans will all be spectacular when they come out.
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It's not the worst thing. In my opinion this phone runs really well on touchwiz roms anyway. Give some time for more roms to come out. Tkrom, cleanrom and jellybeans will all be spectacular when they come out.
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I totally agree with you. With root and a different launcher, I'm doing fine right now. Really wanted that new quick settings on Paranoid though.
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Anyone else think that the information that BadUsername posted should be made a sticky?
Should have just rooted when you first got the phone haha
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Should have just rooted when you first got the phone haha
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You can gain root access on 4.3, but still can't unlock the bootloader.
The 4.3 OTA has truly downgraded the performance of my phone, so I'm not holding out much hope that 4.3 safestrapped ROMs will do much else - Samsung has rather let me down with this update (even outside of working with Verizon to lock the darn thing down much more tightly).
I used to say that custom ROMs were not needed, because the stock OS ran so well. Since the 4.3 OTA, it feels slower than when it first came with 4.0.4 (?) and has some of the old WiFi and Bluetooth issues back, again. On both of our Galaxy S III phones, btw. Not quite so fun, anymore.
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You can gain root access on 4.3, but still can't unlock the bootloader.
The 4.3 OTA has truly downgraded the performance of my phone, so I'm not holding out much hope that 4.3 safestrapped ROMs will do much else - Samsung has rather let me down with this update (even outside of working with Verizon to lock the darn thing down much more tightly).
I used to say that custom ROMs were not needed, because the stock OS ran so well. Since the 4.3 OTA, it feels slower than when it first came with 4.0.4 (?) and has some of the old WiFi and Bluetooth issues back, again. On both of our Galaxy S III phones, btw. Not quite so fun, anymore.
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Oh, I didn't catch that. Thanks for the info. And ooofest, were you over at overclockers.uk? I thought I recognized that name from there, maybe it was only here though.
I've honestly lost track of the rooting requirements for this phone after I rooted. Best decision I've made with this phone! But I was nervous to do so...
I agree, it wasn't too terrible when it had 4.0.4, but compared to Cyanogenmod there's no comparison on which is smoother!
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Oh, I didn't catch that. Thanks for the info. And ooofest, were you over at overclockers.uk?
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Not that I recall, sorry. I used to be more active here and about, but then decided to go back into stock for 2013 and ramp up the rooting, unlocking, optimization, etc. in 2014.
It would always be ready to re-root and unlock, yes?
Well, never say "always."
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I agree, it wasn't too terrible when it had 4.0.4, but compared to Cyanogenmod there's no comparison on which is smoother!
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Indeed.
- ooofest