Don't bother with USB 3 OTG cables - Galaxy Note 3 General

I've spent a lot of time in the last week trying to see if my Galaxy Note 3 SM-N900T is actually capable of USB 3.0 in host mode. From my investigations to date, it isn't supported. Here is a brief summary of what I tried:
3 different USB 3.0 OTG Cables
[*]Custom built kernel to enable logging of xHCI driver​[*]Modified xHCI driver source to cause an extra reset on the USB 3 port when USB 2 port shows a connect
Never saw a change of the USB 3 port status register in the xHCI controller​[*]Modified xHCI driver source to disable USB 2 port when a connection happens then reset USB 3 port
Never saw a change of the USB 3 port status register in the xHCI controller​[*]Connected phone through USB 3 protocol analyzer to see if it was making any attempt to negotiate a USB 3 link.
No sign phone was trying USB 3 link negotiation.​[*]Used modified windows xhci driver to attempt to read the OTG Descriptor defined in the latest USB OTG Spec
Phone returned Stall, meaning it doesn't support that descriptor​
It's still possible that the phone will support USB 3 OTG. It may be that there is some signalling to switch the USB 3 port from device to host mode that isn't currently in the code. I did do some looking for this but haven't found anything yet.
I'll update this thread if I get any new, hopefully encouraging, information.
Eric

Thanks. I've almost bought disk due to OTG
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Ordered my cable yesterday it was only 5 bucks though.. will regular otg still work
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ktetreault14 said:
Ordered my cable yesterday it was only 5 bucks though.. will regular otg still work
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Yes it will work just fine. The new cable just won't work any better.
Look on the bright side. now if one cable breaks you have a backup.

Atleast the usb 3.0 cables work with 2.0
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Hi Eric,
Have you found out any more information on the subject? I've tried to get USB 3.0 OTG working on the N900 (Exynos) and N9005 (Snapdragon) variants with no success.
Do you know of any other developers who have had any success? Or does anyone know if contacting Samsung would be worthwhile?

SM-N900 Exynos..
Kitkat 4.4.2
Halaszk kernel
VN Rom v8.1
1TB harddisk with USB 2.0 OTG

Sorry for bringing up a very old thread I just want to know if it's conclusively affirmed that Note 3 cannot operate in USB 3.0 mode as host (OTG) for both Snapdragon and Exynos variants?
Thanks

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How to make nexus s support USB OTG -- somebody already success

any body successed ?
Bad news, there is no way to enable OTG
Because NS uses usb switch chip FSA9280A, and this chip doesn't support OTG.
ref:
1. http://www.promelec.ru/pdf/MUS_Micro_USB_Presentation.pdf
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431151
I made a mistake, there is a FSA9480 in the phone, so it support OTG in hardware.
ref:
1.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21503413&postcount=2#post21503413
I haven't had any luck getting this to work.
I tried hooking up a USB mouse, game pad (wired 360 controller) and a USB flash drive. However nothing happened when I plugged them in.
I connected them using a micro USB to USB adaptor and an externally powered USB hub.
Since the Galaxy Nexus appears to support OTG without issues, I'm guessing it's not working on the NS because of some sort hardware incompatibility.
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developersdevelopers said:
I haven't had any luck getting this to work.
I tried hooking up a USB mouse, game pad (wired 360 controller) and a USB flash drive. However nothing happened when I plugged them in.
I connected them using a micro USB to USB adaptor and an externally powered USB hub.
Since the Galaxy Nexus appears to support OTG without issues, I'm guessing it's not working on the NS because of some sort hardware incompatibility.
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first of all, are you sure your kernel configure support OTG ?
and then, the "micro USB to USB adaptor " is type-A(pin 4 connected with GND) ?
btw, the cup(S5PC110)'s datasheet shows it support OTG.
Ah, I did not realize there were different types of USB OTG adaptors. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
I did a bit of digging around and it seems that it's not too difficult to modify the adaptor from type B to type A, provided you have basic soldering ability (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092493). Perhaps I'll give that a go when I get some free time.
Has anyone else tried this feature on NS with any success?
This only applies to the Nexus S i9020.
i9023 seems to user another USB chip (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431151) for which are OTG kernels available:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1361477
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427352

[Q] Re: Nexus S usb host is not working

http://support.google.com/ics/nexus/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2386439&topic=2375623&ctx=topic
According to the official Google Help Page, it should support USB Host. However searching online have returned a lot of out-dated threads about how the USB chip works when it was still running Gingerbread.
I have purchased a USB adapter, tried to connect any USB device to my Nexus S, and nothing happens. The USB port will not be powered. However quoting Google's official help text :
You may need an adapter to connect the keyboard or other device to your phone's USB port. To connect more than one USB device at a time, use a powered USB hub to reduce the drain on your phone’s battery.
This implies that connecting devices to your Nexus S will drain your battery?
I am very confused. I have no powered USB hubs so I cannot try to see if the USB host function is purely limited by the lack of power or the USB chip.
I am sure I am not the only person who would love this to work. Is there anyone who knows what does it take to get USB Host to work on Nexus S upgraded to ICS? (Despite Google's help site indicating that it should just works out of the box)
Thanks a lot.
So, I spent some money and bought a powered USB hub.
No it didn't work.
I think the reason is that the power is not being transferred UPSTREAM. For example, I have connected the USB hub to my Nexus S, and a Logitech wireless mouse receiver to the powered USB hub.
Although I am sure that the Logitech wireless mouse receiver has power (from the USB hub), the Nexus S does not recognize the existence of the USB hub, since the power is not transmitted from the USB hub back INTO the Nexus S.
Feeling disappointed, I repacked everything nicely and exchanged my purchase for a slightly more useful 16GB SD Card.
Does anyone has any information to how is this supposed to work?
Or should we assume Google has made a stupid typo in their help articles, and that the Nexus S will not actually work in USB Host Mode ??
anyone please?
I too am looking for answers. Anyone?
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[Q] OTG USB Host Mode in ICS

I bought a cheap adapter female USB2.0 to Male MicroUSB so I can try the dslr controller apps in the market. I basically want to connect my DSLR to my phone.
I thought USB OTG is supported in ICS but somehow the app still can't recognize my camera or usb flash drive at all.
I am running ICS from mhx. Superlite 5.0
No other strange configurations.
Is this kernel related?
Can a dev/community englighten me?
I can confirm that usb devices work. Is your cable a OTG host adapter. Dslr controller requires you to have camera on then plug into phone. My usb stick shows up in /sdcard/usbStorage.
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which kernel are you using? and which software you running?
What i bought is a basic "Male microusb with a female USB regular size"
romracer's unsecure kernel
one of the original deodexed slightlyunbloated ics releases
i bought a USB OTG cable from newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0PG06U1118

How to connect usb 3.0 to galaxy note 10.1

I have a HDD 3.0 and I want to connect it to my galaxy note 10.1, but it isn't successful (usb 2.0 is ok). What must I do?
Hi,
Make sure the drive is formatted to Fat32.
If you are rooted you can use the paragon ntfs app.
Cheers
JK
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joker1973 said:
Hi,
Make sure the drive is formatted to Fat32.
If you are rooted you can use the paragon ntfs app.
Cheers
JK
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It's not successful. My HDD is 1Tb, so it's too big for note 10?
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It's not successful. My HDD is 1Tb, so it's too big for note 10?
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Correct. Note 10.1 does not have the power to handle a hdd, only flash drives.
You could try streaming from the drive to your note over wifi? Although that would only help at home.
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joker1973 said:
Correct. Note 10.1 does not have the power to handle a hdd, only flash drives.
You could try streaming from the drive to your note over wifi? Although that would only help at home.
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Use a hdd that has its own power.
cobra83hp said:
I have a HDD 3.0 and I want to connect it to my galaxy note 10.1, but it isn't successful (usb 2.0 is ok). What must I do?
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Are you asking how to connect the HDD to your Note 10.1 or how to connect it AND get USB 3.0 speeds? I see you say that USB 2.0 is ok, so does that mean you can get it connected?
If you're trying to get a USB 3.0 connection, you won't be able to unless your Note 10.1 USB adapter supports USB 3.0.
darksabre_x said:
Are you asking how to connect the HDD to your Note 10.1 or how to connect it AND get USB 3.0 speeds? I see you say that USB 2.0 is ok, so does that mean you can get it connected?
If you're trying to get a USB 3.0 connection, you won't be able to unless your Note 10.1 USB adapter supports USB 3.0.
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Yes, I'm asking how to connect the HDD 3.0 to my Note 10.1. I tried to connect it to Asus Slider, it's ok. Samsung doesn't support for Note 10.1, while Note 10.1's hardware configuration is stronger than Asus Slider
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Yes, I'm asking how to connect the HDD 3.0 to my Note 10.1. I tried to connect it to Asus Slider, it's ok. Samsung doesn't support for Note 10.1, while Note 10.1's hardware configuration is stronger than Asus Slider
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Do you have any other USB hard drives or USB flash drives you can try? It sounds like a problem with your adapter. What kind of adapter are you using to get a USB port on your Note 10.1?
darksabre_x said:
Do you have any other USB hard drives or USB flash drives you can try? It sounds like a problem with your adapter. What kind of adapter are you using to get a USB port on your Note 10.1?
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I tried with usb flash and it's ok. Adapter I'm using is origin from chine
Hold up, you have a USB 2 USB flash drive that works or a USB 2 HDD that works?
No-one that's been on here has said they can get a portable HDD working. A message, "High Powered USB Device Has Been Detected" comes up and the HDD doesn't work. It has to be a powered HDD...
So, if you can get a USB 2 HDD working, powered by the Note, we want to know what brand, size and adaptor brand and where you got it...
Otherwise, no you can't use a Portable HDDon the note 10.1 unless it's powered... Forget USB 2 or 3, it just won't work...
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So, if you can get a USB 2 HDD working, powered by the Note, we want to know what brand, size and adaptor brand and where you got it...
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Amen to that. My now-departed Toshiba THRiVE 10.1 had that capability and I miss having that feature on my Note.
Not sure you be lucky to get USB 3.0 to work since Note 10.1 has a 2.0 USB.
USB 3.0 is not backward compatible, same with PC that have only USB 2
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hygradeb said:
Not sure you be lucky to get USB 3.0 to work since Note 10.1 has a 2.0 USB.
USB 3.0 is not backward compatible, same with PC that have only USB 2
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USB 3.0 IS backward compatible with USB 2.0. I have a USB 3.0 HDD plugged into my PC's USB 2.0 ports right now. I just don't get USB 3.0 transfer speeds.
I'm with the majority on this one. I don't believe that the HDD being used is an externally powered HDD. The Note 10.1 can not power a USB HDD that large.
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I have a HDD 3.0 and I want to connect it to my galaxy note 10.1, but it isn't successful (usb 2.0 is ok). What must I do?
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USB 3.0 is compatible with USB 2.0.
The only problem is HDD power and file system.
get a IDE/SATA to USB 2.0 Cable! or a USB Y cable.
so you can supply extra power to HDD.
also OTG Cable:
APP: Paragon NTFS & HFS+
flymouse said:
USB 3.0 is compatible with USB 2.0.
The only problem is HDD power and file system.
get a IDE/SATA to USB 2.0 Cable! or a USB Y cable.
so you can supply extra power to HDD.
also OTG Cable:
APP: Paragon NTFS & HFS+
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Thus negating the portability of the note... If I want a Desktop I'll use the one I have already....
Only other option is to use a wifi enabled HDD (like Seagate Goflex satellite Pro in both 500Gb or 1Tb versions now)... Works fine but REALLY eats into your battery life....
Anybody ever tried with an external usb drive with ssd?
Still cheaper than sd cards and more convenient, but don't know if power from the note is sufficient
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Bit expensive for something I can use a hell of a lot cheaper usb drive for... Not even sure it would work if the note detects its a HDD..
The problem is not that it's a hdd (a friend of mine has a 250gb drive which works fine when attached to my note, though it's not manufactured anymore), the problem is power. As i assume that an external drive with a ssd draws less power, it *should* work, but before actually buying one, I'd like to be sure
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shouldn't this be a kernel problem ?
i also can trick my note to accept my xbox360 controller even while it should give the same message about high performance device.
(first i attach the x360 controller to the otg cabel and then i attach the otg cabel to my note...it works :victory
however i cant get my hdd to works with that method but many other tablets have no problems with high performance devices and thats because there is no restriction in the kernel.
is there a kernel for the note 10.1 that handles this problem ?
layercake87 said:
shouldn't this be a kernel problem ?
i also can trick my note to accept my xbox360 controller even while it should give the same message about high performance device.
(first i attach the x360 controller to the otg cabel and then i attach the otg cabel to my note...it works :victory
however i cant get my hdd to works with that method but many other tablets have no problems with high performance devices and thats because there is no restriction in the kernel.
is there a kernel for the note 10.1 that handles this problem ?
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with the use of a ssd i wanted to circumvent the use of another kernel, because hopefully the ssd just doesnt need that much power. However i'm not certain about that, hence the question
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ah someone else talking bout it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2307088

Do OTG cables work?

I've got an existing OTG cable with micro USB. Does that work for things like thumb drives and mice using the adapter?
If not, would this work?
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0194WSKOM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A21TE5CLHZDYA7&psc=1
thanks..
It comes with a USB-C to USB-A adapter in the box. You should be able to plug your thumb drive or mouse into that.
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I don't know why they would get rid of something as old as OTG support so I'm assuming that yes it will work.
yes otg works and the samsung smart switch lets you plug one phone into the other and transfer data
Just reading through the AT&T manual: it states clearly that OTG will not work through the supplied USB connector (p9). Nor can you use it to charge the Note 7 from a computer (p12).
With built-in battery too - hope the Note 7 isn't just another pretty fetish.
zamzenos said:
Just reading through the AT&T manual: it states clearly that OTG will not work through the supplied USB connector (p9). Nor can you use it to charge the Note 7 from a computer (p12).
With built-in battery too - hope the Note 7 isn't just another pretty fetish.
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Well all of the above work on my T-Mobile variant.
On my t-mobile Note 7, I cannot get my Dragonfly Red to work via USB OTG.
GermanGuy said:
On my t-mobile Note 7, I cannot get my Dragonfly Red to work via USB OTG.
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IDK what that is but my usb drive works fine.
Rydah805 said:
IDK what that is but my usb drive works fine.
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It is a DAC/Preamp. So you use the included microUSB to USB C adapter for your OTG cable?
Yup
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idk but all my jump drives work just fine, same as my s7 edge.
just plug them into the usb c otg and tranfer files via samsung file app
Ok. I just realized that there is an otg usb to usb c adapter in the box. That one actually works just fine with my external dac.
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I can't get my Oppo HA-2 DAC to work at all. I tried using the included adapters but nothing. I went and bought a USB - USB C cable and that also didn't work. The only way I have been able to get audio is to use a standard charging cable (USB - MicroUSB) and put the USB C adapter on the MicroUSB end. However this charges the Oppo from the Note 7 and I can't disable that. Will burn through the battery in no time! Not sure what else to try at this stage
+1 I have successfully used a SanDisk 8gb flash drive with an aftermarket Rankle usb adapter. I have an AT&T Note 7.
Cheers
BR
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I can't get my Oppo HA-2 DAC to work at all. I tried using the included adapters but nothing. I went and bought a USB - USB C cable and that also didn't work. The only way I have been able to get audio is to use a standard charging cable (USB - MicroUSB) and put the USB C adapter on the MicroUSB end. However this charges the Oppo from the Note 7 and I can't disable that. Will burn through the battery in no time! Not sure what else to try at this stage
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I use the included USB-USB C adapter with a USB -USB Mini(?) and my Fiio Alpen. As you mentioned, the Note7 charges the DAC. This also happened with my Note4. You should be able to use a wireless charging pad to charge the Note7 at the same time. That's what I did when I was transferring files between phones. It's transportable but not very mobile.
My little micro usb fan does NOT work with the included usb 3 to microusb connector. So, i'm gonna assume OTG doesnt work as it used to.

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