Hi all,
I got a great Nexus 5 over Christmas and have been using it quite happily with the exception of terrible battery life, getting on average 3 hours on screen time just emailing, texting, redditing, and facebooking. I'm seeing massive drain, even sitting idle overnight (~20%) on wifi. I have auto-sync off, all notifications on apps off, brightness set at ~5-10% fixed, and location on battery saving.
I've asked around and tried remedying all these problems by changing to ART, rooting my phone, installing wakelock detector, BBS, and Greenify. Greenified almost every app, minus the messenging apps. These steps didn't do anything for me, so I installed Franco kernel, which also hasn't done much for me either. I got rid of Facebook, which didn't do much (seeing a trend? hehe). Finally set my phone into safe mode last night to see if battery was just as bad, and lost 23% in 8 hours (still a far far cry from the whole sleep like a baby), so it's not some rogue app issue.
Now I've read a number of things related to terrible battery life on 4.4.2 and that the best remedy is just a factory reset. What does that do exactly aside from wipe out data? If I just end up reinstalling the same apps, and going back to my old settings, won't I get the same problems again? And if I go ahead with a factory reset, should I be sticking with Dalvik or ART? Should I try flashing back to a 4.4 image provided by Google (can I even do that?)? Or should I be returning my phone to get a replacement?
Many thank yous in advance for thoughts and sorry for any noobish questions
Sometimes settings existing before an upgrade conflict with the upgrade causing things to act incorrectly. I would always recommend a reset after an OTA but most simply won't do it.
You could post your bbs log
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battery life is dependent on how you personally set up your phone, what apps you chose to install(facebook is the worst app for draining your battery. itll drain it even if you never open facebook), the way that you manage your apps, and very importantly, battery life depends a whole lot on the quality of your phone and data signal.
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Sometimes settings existing before an upgrade conflict with the upgrade causing things to act incorrectly. I would always recommend a reset after an OTA but most simply won't do it.
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That makes sense. Would my unlocking bootloader/rooting my phone count as my factory reset after updating to 4.4.2? Or should I do it one more time after having switched kernels? Thanks!
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battery life is dependent on how you personally set up your phone, what apps you chose to install(facebook is the worst app for draining your battery. itll drain it even if you never open facebook), the way that you manage your apps, and very importantly, battery life depends a whole lot on the quality of your phone and data signal.
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Totally understand that. I thought that doing safemode effectively just makes all third party apps disabled and thus my phone is about as stock as can be then? Would this be saying something about the quality of my battery then?
Unlocking bootloader resets, yes
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That makes sense. Would my unlocking bootloader/rooting my phone count as my factory reset after updating to 4.4.2? Or should I do it one more time after having switched kernels? Thanks!
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a. it factory resets when you unlock the bootloader.
b. factory resetting after switching ketnesls makes no sense. you dont even have to wipe anything for flashing a kernel.
c. your setup, your apps, and the quality of your signal is most important for battery life. if you factory reset, then set your phone up the same way again, and have the same signal quality as before, you will just have the same battery life as before.
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a. it factory resets when you unlock the bootloader.
b. factory resetting after switching ketnesls makes no sense. you dont even have to wipe anything for flashing a kernel.
c. your setup, your apps, and the quality of your signal is most important for battery life. if you factory reset, then set your phone up the same way again, and have the same signal quality as before, you will just have the same battery life as before.
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I guess then my question is then, did my experiment in safe mode actually tell me anything? I have nearly everything off, my settings should techncially reflect a more power saving state, and I figured a safe mode overnight at home, on my own wifi network, would tell me if it was something with my battery or something with my apps... am I wrong?
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I guess then my question is then, did my experiment in safe mode actually tell me anything? I have nearly everything off, my settings should techncially reflect a more power saving state, and I figured a safe mode overnight at home, on my own wifi network, would tell me if it was something with my battery or something with my apps... am I wrong?
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i wouldnt really call it a power saving state. its more of a "safe" state, against badly behaving apps. all your normal processes are still active. anyways, 3h sot is normal, can be better, but can be worse. your signal will have a huge impact here. some people in some location will never have 5h sot, no matter how hard they try, if their phone and data connection dont support it. and again, that facebook app can be a battery slaughterer just by itself. i uninstalled it two plus years ago when i didnt open the app for over a month, yet it continued to drain my battery(averaged around 7-15% battery use, one day it used 22%, so i uninstalled it from all my devices and have been happy since).
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Maybe this is due to my lack of experience, but maybe not. It seems like every time I put a new ROM on my phone it goes to hell in about a month. I'm not a technician but I can follow directions for installation, patches, etc. So far I have had 0 long term success in installing a ROM that ends up being any better than stock after 30-60 days.
For example, I've had issues with battery drain, random booting while the phone is powered off, redraw issues, serious lag, data connectivity issues, and a few other things. It seems like its always something.
The only phones I've toyed with are my old Eris and my Charge. Is this a phone issue, noob issue, or is this par for the course? If it is par I'll end up back at stock and have mediocre performance rather than have a buzz saw that ends up needing constant tweaking and maintenance.
Btw this isn't a knock on developers. I appreciate them sharing all their hard work. I just want to know if everybody else goes through this or am I holding a bag of stupid.
Just rooting does nothing more than give you superuser access. It doesn't even do anything that uses the root specifically. Different roms do different things, but nothing to use battery...mostly they take things out rather than put things in.
Best thing to do is look at BetterBatteryStats and track partial wakelocks. That will tell you what is waking up your system and if there's anything spiking it, you can deal with it. Most of what really drains battery on this phone, other than bad apps, is somewhat random, and it will affect non-rooted phones just as much as rooted.
Must be something you did, picking a good rom make a big different. In my case. I flashed tweakstock to my daughter's phone since the first day it released (with tweakstock kernel), and never, I repeat never have any issue, when tweakstock 1.4 released, this is the second time I touch her phone and up until now she hasn't have any issue. If you use eclipse rom, PBJ kernel, Imonsey kernel, you're going to have issue. They are not bad roms or kernels, but they do have bugs. This is my experience.
Yeah, I think it's you. On stock, I'll be lucky to get 12 hours usage in a low signal environment. On a custom ROM, with custom kernel, I'll make it through the day. Of course, I've had a couple of random total crashes where I had to go at it again, but I deal with it.
PROTIP: the Facebook app needs to be told to stfu constantly. I would get an app like System so you can kill it easily-it still stays in RAM and in wakelock, taking clock cycles, even if you close it by backing out. I found that this was one of the best battery savers.
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Yeah, I think it's you. On stock, I'll be lucky to get 12 hours usage in a low signal environment. On a custom ROM, with custom kernel, I'll make it through the day. Of course, I've had a couple of random total crashes where I had to go at it again, but I deal with it.
PROTIP: the Facebook app needs to be told to stfu constantly. I would get an app like System so you can kill it easily-it still stays in RAM and in wakelock, taking clock cycles, even if you close it by backing out. I found that this was one of the best battery savers.
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Yes, I agreed with kvswim, Facebook is a big battery drainer, I ended up using the browser for facebook, it's not as nice as the FB app, but once you get a hang of it. It's fine. I suggest if you want trouble free, ODIN pit file and original factory image, then upgrade to tweakstock with tweakstock kernel, then install Go launcher for smoothness. To save battery even more install battery saver by Antutu.(keep all default settings, don't play with it). You will see big improvement with both battery and smooth trouble free phone.
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Yes, I agreed with kvswim, Facebook is a big battery drainer, I ended up using the browser for facebook, it's not as nice as the FB app, but once you get a hang of it. It's fine. I suggest if you want trouble free, ODIN pit file and original factory image, then upgrade to tweakstock with tweakstock kernel, then install Go launcher for smoothness. To save battery even more install battery saver by Antutu.(keep all default settings, don't play with it). You will see big improvement with both battery and smooth trouble free phone.
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you really find a battery saver to be helpful. Every time i try one it ends up costing me more battery life than it saves.
As for the phone issues. Are you wiping data, cache, and dalvik before you flash? Not doing so can really muck things up. And a lot of times its just an annoying app that sucks up all ur juice, ie words with friends and facebook. I use them alot so I deal, but u can definitely tell the difference when u dont have those apps installed.
No i dont think its u...i have problems also.i jus made a post about my home/hard key...its always seems to b something after the next.but it looks like people find ways to deal and eventually conquer.also i appreciate wat the developers do.its alot of work and headaches.on top of posting and replying to many many people.its the roms that cause problems...constant tweaking and toying around...alot of times things jus need to b debugged a little it seems.but its all in the nature of what were all doing here.good luck to u
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you really find a battery saver to be helpful. Every time i try one it ends up costing me more battery life than it saves.
As for the phone issues. Are you wiping data, cache, and dalvik before you flash? Not doing so can really muck things up. And a lot of times its just an annoying app that sucks up all ur juice, ie words with friends and facebook. I use them alot so I deal, but u can definitely tell the difference when u dont have those apps installed.
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Hey. how about give the "battery saver" app by Antutu a try. This is one of the kind. It does not kill processes like others. It actually readjust cpu frequency during usage and put your phone in heavy deep sleep, after installed, let it run for 2 days, you will notice at least 3-4 hrs more during usage and 10+ if you let your phone sleep. I have test this app with wifi,4g,gps on 24/7 and I still have good battery life.
I downloaded betterbatterysaver to check my stats. Now to figure out how to read the data. Any suggestions? I've searched Google and it seems to be a mystery for many. It appears that Dolphin HD is using most, but I kill the program when I'm done???? I switched to mini and froze HD to troubleshooting. I only use FB browser too. I ditched the app long time ago.
Before I flash I wipe dalvik cache, data, and then wipe it again. I follow directions closely since I can't figure my way out if something goes wrong. I'm running tweakstock's latest right now and I'm really enjoying it. Very stable and snappy. However, the battery problem is killing the experience. It drained fro. 69% to dead in 6 hours overnight! Switched from 1.1 because the phone got very laggy and the hand off between 3-4g was getting dropped and I was losing data connection.
I will try the battery saver app. Just got battery calibrated and still not any better. My need to have a phone that doesn't suck will keep me playing with this thing until I get it right. My Charge is used so much it's like my third hand.
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I downloaded betterbatterysaver to check my stats. Now to figure out how to read the data. Any suggestions? I've searched Google and it seems to be a mystery for many. It appears that Dolphin HD is using most, but I kill the program when I'm done???? I switched to mini and froze HD to troubleshooting. I only use FB browser too. I ditched the app long time ago.
Before I flash I wipe dalvik cache, data, and then wipe it again. I follow directions closely since I can't figure my way out if something goes wrong. I'm running tweakstock's latest right now and I'm really enjoying it. Very stable and snappy. However, the battery problem is killing the experience. It drained fro. 69% to dead in 6 hours overnight! Switched from 1.1 because the phone got very laggy and the hand off between 3-4g was getting dropped and I was losing data connection.
I will try the battery saver app. Just got battery calibrated and still not any better. My need to have a phone that doesn't suck will keep me playing with this thing until I get it right. My Charge is used so much it's like my third hand.
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Did you try to disable(freeze) SDM app and also Google service? May need to backup all your apps and do a factory/data reset, If not help, possible to re ODIN factory image (see pos # 5) since you have data drop issue. Some thing is mess up in your OS.
For betterbatterystats look at wakelock and see what process used the most.
If it died overnight then something is definitely eating your battery. Are you in a low signal environment? Go to settings, about phone, then battery usage. If anything besides display is taking more than around 5-10% (can be more if you use it a lot) then that's your main problem. If your cell standby is more than 25% it's the low signal that's killing the battery.
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Data is up and running smooth after flashing newest tweakstock. My home has a strong signal and my bedroom is sometimes 4G so I don't believe the signal was low, unless the transition between radios killed it. However, it wasn't a problem 3 weeks ago.
I did freeze SDM and noticed some improvement. Buhohitr, did you mean freeze Google services framework?
Battery usage seems to be normal for now. I am noticing Dolphin is no Singer sucking down 35% or more since I switched to Mini. It doesn't even show up on the list.
I'll see how it goes today and report back on wakelocks. If it doesn't get any Beyer ima Odin to stock and root/flash tweakstock again.
Also, the battery doesn't drain unusually fast wile in use, browsing, music, etc. But when it sits it drains at 3-4% an hour.
I would try manually calibrating your battery. It really worked for me. On average I get about 18-19 hours on one charge with medium to heavy data usage throughout the day. There is a thread in the General section.. I'll post a link in a little bit.
EDIT: Here is the link. It's a stickie but I figured I'd save you a little extra time. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187698
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I would try manually calibrating your battery. It really worked for me. On average I get about 18-19 hours on one charge with medium to heavy data usage throughout the day. There is a thread in the General section.. I'll post a link in a little bit.
EDIT: Here is the link. It's a stickie but I figured I'd save you a little extra time. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1187698
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Wiping battery stats is a complete placebo. All the battery stats stores is the state of apps as related to various things that affect battery life (like display on time, screen brightness over time, and wakelock states). It does nothing that will actually affect your battery life one iota. It is actually cleared every time you charge your battery to 100%, so manually wiping it is completely pointless.
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Wiping battery stats is a complete placebo. All the battery stats stores is the state of apps as related to various things that affect battery life (like display on time, screen brightness over time, and wakelock states). It does nothing that will actually affect your battery life one iota. It is actually cleared every time you charge your battery to 100%, so manually wiping it is completely pointless.
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I'm well aware of the post of Dianne Hackborn debunking the myth of wiping the battery stats; however, if you actually read the post on the steps to calibrating your battery, it's not just wiping your battery stats. There's actually a few more steps involved. You're right though, if you just wipe the battery stats and expect better battery life you're just wasting your time.
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donkason said:
Data is up and running smooth after flashing newest tweakstock. My home has a strong signal and my bedroom is sometimes 4G so I don't believe the signal was low, unless the transition between radios killed it. However, it wasn't a problem 3 weeks ago.
I did freeze SDM and noticed some improvement. Buhohitr, did you mean freeze Google services framework?
Battery usage seems to be normal for now. I am noticing Dolphin is no Singer sucking down 35% or more since I switched to Mini. It doesn't even show up on the list.
I'll see how it goes today and report back on wakelocks. If it doesn't get any Beyer ima Odin to stock and root/flash tweakstock again.
Also, the battery doesn't drain unusually fast wile in use, browsing, music, etc. But when it sits it drains at 3-4% an hour.
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To disable Google Service, go to settings -> location&security and uncheck Google service. Do not freeze Google framework. Also seems like your phone is not in deep sleep, please install "battery saver" by Antutu and let it works for 24 hrs, you should see huge different when your phone is sleeping. BTW what kernel are you using? If you're using PBJ kernel you can install "CPU tuner" to further keep your phone in deep sleep. I'm talking about 1% for 3 hrs sleeping.
I'm curious as to what Battery Saver actually does. The app's market page doesn't say. I'd be curious if it would interfere with my IMAP push email or SetCPU's overclock settings.
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I'm well aware of the post of Dianne Hackborn debunking the myth of wiping the battery stats; however, if you actually read the post on the steps to calibrating your battery, it's not just wiping your battery stats. There's actually a few more steps involved. You're right though, if you just wipe the battery stats and expect better battery life you're just wasting your time.
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I've done that and never seen an actual difference. Like I said before, I have no reason to believe that any of it is anything other than placebo. My normal daily variability in use is more than enough to account for any perceived differences. On top of it all, bump charging is not good for a Li-Ion battery, so if anything, those instructions are a good example of how to lose long-term battery life for short term gain.
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I've done that and never seen an actual difference. Like I said before, I have no reason to believe that any of it is anything other than placebo. My normal daily variability in use is more than enough to account for any perceived differences. On top of it all, bump charging is not good for a Li-Ion battery, so if anything, those instructions are a good example of how to lose long-term battery life for short term gain.
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Personally, I believe that most of the time the procedure does nothing. I think there are times, though, that corrupt data gets into the battery stats. For instance, I had an app lock up my phone and force a hard boot. When the phone came back up, it showed 22% more battery than it had previously. I believe that bad data such as this can over time affect how Android reads your battery life. In that instance, I believe clearing battery stats would help. I don't think doing it just because a new ROM was flashed actually does anything, though.
Hi guys! I've created this as a thread to discuss the so far mysterious and specific to 5.0 battery issues many seem to have.
Here you can discuss it, test theories and try to track down causes.
I made this to keep the clutter out of the Battery Life Help Thread sticky. As this is muddying the waters there.
Same things apply... Screen shots are helpful, specifically app wakelock screens. (need root for that though)
Also, Chances are there will eventually be an update to fix this from Google. So when that happens, or the issues are solved by members, then this thread will be closed and info added to the Battery Life Help Thread.
Thanks!
I won't be active very much in this thread BTW. I'm very busy here on XDA. I've created it for community discussion. ?
By all means... If you are rooted, and have Gsam and Gsam root companion installed.... You can post your app wakelock screen shots here......
[Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
Here we go. There's some proof about Wifi issue for ones who don't or want to believe and became angry to talking about this issue. As you can see No deep sleep wakelocks without Wifi. As clear as it should be.
And yes, everything is off. GNow, location, G+; any google services disabled. Also all notification or syncing options of 3rd party apps are closed. And it's a smartphone by the way.
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Here we go. There's some proof about Wifi issue for ones who don't or want to believe and became angry to talking about this issue. As you can see No deep sleep wakelocks without Wifi. As clear as it should be.
And yes, everything is off. GNow, location, G+; any google services disabled. Also all notification or syncing options of 3rd party apps are closed. And it's a smartphone by the way.
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It would be a good idea to change your language to english before you take a screen shot. Many people that have no idea what the text in your screen shot means. Just an idea
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It would be a good idea to change your language to english before you take a screen shot. Many people that have no idea what the text in your screen shot means. Just an idea
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I don't think so. I saw too many french, spanish, german, portuegese screenshots and if you know the ordering you may tell which is which.
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I don't think so. I saw too many french, spanish, german, portuegese screenshots and if you know the ordering you may tell which is which.
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It's up to you ofc. I'm still on KitKat and don't know by default which is which, therefor my question. Just think you'll be able to get more help when Everyone can understand your screenshots, but that's me
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It's up to you ofc. I'm still on KitKat and don't know by default which is which, therefor my question. Just think you'll be able to get more help when Everyone can understand your screenshots, but that's me
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Thanks but I'm not sure that I'll get some help though. Turkish or english, this issue will take much battery in these days.
For what it's worth, people who need to theorise / suggest / confirm 'issues' must do so LOGICALLY, and preferably with numbers and specific setup.
- The laws of physics apply in all cases, regardless of ROM / kernel. Work out WHAT is using your battery instead of just complaining of drain. This helps no one....similarly only quoting SOT is USELESS. It is how you use your device.....
- Any initial 'testing' needs to be done first on full stock factory images, with no additional apps installed. If there really is a WiFi bug....test standby drain with WiFi on / off over a long period of time. Only then can you actually compare logically. Any difference in your actual day-to-day setup can then be narrowed down to an app issue, with in 99% of cases is the real cause.
Well i narrowed it down tot google now. I did a clean install. I did my setup as i usually do. But first without google now. Because i don't use it. My SOT was then about 4 hrs. Then i was thinking. Hmmz lollipop is beter then KitKat. And maybe its fun tot use google now. So i setup google now. My SOT drops instantly to 2 hrs SOT. So i disabled google now. But my SOT stays at 2 hrs. I did again a clean install. Without touching google now and my SOT is beter then ever. 5 hrs. And i came tot understand that if you don't setup google now. The SOT became normal but if you setup google now SOT drops. And i think there a program from google now that keeps beeing active. Even with shutting google now off. Or google now keeps active even while you shut if off
Anyone know of an app that can control individual apps permissions, similar to the xposed module app settings? Fighting privacy/battery issues.
App ops? Can be found in the store
I have no 3rd party apps installed and also tested in safe mode. If wifi is on the battery drains with wakelocks. If wifi is off the battery drain goes away and wakelocks stop. That's not a theory or something. I'm testing this issue till I bought my Nexus 5. I'm lucky because I bought my Nexus 5 1 week ago and I flashed Lollipop images clearly. Also I relfashed 2 times more . There's a wifi issue in this version in Nexus 5 and it must be fixed immediately. That's the result. No need physics laws or something. There's to many person lives it and cannot use their smartphone properly. If I must close the wifi manually to save battery life and block wakelocks why I'm calling that thing a "smartphone"? By the way it's not the phone's fault. The OS is faulty for Nexus 5. The worst part is the fact that Google said this issue has been fixed. But it's not true. At least for most users. We saw some users doesn't have this issue but more of them has been rooted their phone or flashed custom ROMs and kernels etc... Personally I don't want to root my phone or use a custom ROM and kernel. I think it's my right as a Google Nexus 5 and Android final consumer. And also it's my right to sound off this issue. I cannot understand why some people are huffing to users like me?
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I have no 3rd party apps installed and also tested in safe mode. If wifi is on the battery drains with wakelocks. If wifi is off the battery drain goes away and wakelocks stop. That's not a theory or something. I'm testing this issue till I bought my Nexus 5. I'm lucky because I bought my Nexus 5 1 week ago and I flashed Lollipop images clearly. Also I relfashed 2 times more . There's a wifi issue in this version in Nexus 5 and it must be fixed immediately. That's the result. No need physics laws or something. There's to many person lives it and cannot use their smartphone properly. If I must close the wifi manually to save battery life and block wakelocks why I'm calling that thing a "smartphone"? By the way it's not the phone's fault. The OS is faulty for Nexus 5. The worst part is the fact that Google said this issue has been fixed. But it's not true. At least for most users. We saw some users doesn't have this issue but more of them has been rooted their phone or flashed custom ROMs and kernels etc... Personally I don't want to root my phone or use a custom ROM and kernel. I think it's my right as a Google Nexus 5 and Android final consumer. And also it's my right to sound off this issue. I cannot understand why some people are huffing to users like me?
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Apologies my post wasn't actually directed at you, more at those who post without any detail and just conclude that it must be drain, I've seen many...
You have tested logically[emoji106], and you're absolutely right that full stock factory image should work without issue and without the need for root to fix anything.
Can you confirm also that the same drain happens on any Wi-Fi network? It shouldn't be a solution but with investigating. Can you determine which built in app is keeping your device awake?
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Apologies my post wasn't actually directed at you, more at those who post without any detail and just conclude that it must be drain, I've seen many...
You have tested logically[emoji106], and you're absolutely right that full stock factory image should work without issue and without the need for root to fix anything.
Can you confirm also that the same drain happens on any Wi-Fi network? It shouldn't be a solution but with investigating. Can you determine which built in app is keeping your device awake?
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No need for apologies or something. We're all here to solve some issues and make things better.
By the way my wifi issue happens if the wifi is on. There's no need to be connected to any network. If the wifi is on there's massive wakelocks in sleep mode and battery drains quickly. I tried anything but root or customizing ROM or kernel. Even I flashed 4.4.2 radio image with 5.0 stock ROM. I'M using it that way now. Same results.
And my tests are not only logical but I also have some quantitative clues. When I open the wifi I can see the wakelocks in stock battery graphic when the screen is off. If ı close the wifi wakelocks decrease and incomprehensible battery drains stops.
I agree. I'm getting an extra hour SOT without WiFi.
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SOT is not a main parameter. Especially in this issue.
For this wifi battery drain issue our main parameter is wakelock intensity when wifi is on and screen is off (standby) therefore battery drain in deep sleep mode. So you must check your off screen battery drain.
Any idea why Google play services is keeping my phone awake almost continuously? My location is set to battery saver. I've left it exactly the way it was on KK, Play services used to be around 2% on KK. Now on L, it's always in the top of the charts at ~20%. It says that mobile radio is continuously on. Does it have anything to do with the radio version?
Location History: On
Location Tracking: On
Gmail sync: on
Contact sync: On
Everything else is always off.
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SOT is not a main parameter. Especially in this issue.
For this wifi battery drain issue our main parameter is wakelock intensity when wifi is on and screen is off (standby) therefore battery drain in deep sleep mode. So you must check your off screen battery drain.
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Oh I see. Well I think Wi-Fi is just more of a drain overall. I got more SOT yesterday and idle time it seemed like.
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Any idea why Google play services is keeping my phone awake almost continuously? My location is set to battery saver. I've left it exactly the way it was on KK, Play services used to be around 2% on KK. Now on L, it's always in the top of the charts at ~20%. It says that mobile radio is continuously on. Does it have anything to do with the radio version?
Location History: On
Location Tracking: On
Gmail sync: on
Contact sync: On
Everything else is always off.
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Tracking and history have always been drains. Maybe not as bad as on 5.0...but still.
Try with those off to compare. ?
Darth said:
Tracking and history have always been drains. Maybe not as bad as on 5.0...but still.
Try with those off to compare. ?
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That is true, but KK never had that big of a drain solely based on location and tracking.
Does anyone else have the issue where android system is consuming 35+% of the battery? Looking at the stats it seems like one of the bundled services is keeping the radio on for 14/18hrs its been on.
Have the same isssue
Yeah, I'm having this issue too. Android System is consuming HUGE amounts of battery for me.
Thought I was the only one but glad that's not true! Still got good battery stats with the android system drain nonetheless.
Charged mine to full last night right before hitting the sack.
Woke up 7½ hours later and it had consumed 33% of the battery just sitting doing nothing bar getting email & polling (presumably) for Facebook updates.
And that was with Power Saving enabled. Bit disappointing, hoping when I disable auto-sync that it'll kill the drain.
There's lots of services running under Android Systems disable the ones u don't use, I have disabled some got better battery life, still testing some others...
The hardware on the phone is great, but touchwhiz drives me up the wall. I'll be happy if and when we get anything AOSP based, CM being the holy grail. Nice to know I'm not the only one getting this battery drain. I've disabled pretty much everything that's able to be disabled, as all I use is google services.
Same problem here.... Huge Android System battery drains.
I've played around with several things, and as of yet I haven't gotten it to stop other than turning off WiFi. Anyone found a fix?
Mine's more a combo of Android System and Google Services... both take up a majority of my usage... Services typically being a bit more.
Why are there two android systems? wtf...
Is there any way to reduce cell standby?
polaric said:
Does anyone else have the issue where android system is consuming 35+% of the battery? Looking at the stats it seems like one of the bundled services is keeping the radio on for 14/18hrs its been on.
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Same sh*t here. Went to bed last night fully charged, and 7-8 hours later, wake up with 23% of my battery gone.
I'm starting to wonder if moving away from the Nexus line was a mistake. I started running again and the N6 was just too big to lug along with me, on arm or in a waste band, so I decided to try Samsung.
Just got my S6 and I noticed this right away. Last charge I had 2:42 of SOT and "Android Systems" used 47% of the battery. I was just watching Netflix and YouTube mostly. My overnight drain is also quite high, about 1% every 30-40 minutes of standby.
Is that normal for most S6 owners?
To all:
Turn off VoLTE, turn off WiFi calling, install CPU Spy, ensure your phone is going into deep sleep. If it isn't, flash the stock recovery with Flashify, wipe the cache with it, then flash TWRP back with Flashify.
Post your results.
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To all:
Turn off VoLTE, turn off WiFi calling, install CPU Spy, ensure your phone is going into deep sleep. If it isn't, flash the stock recovery with Flashify, wipe the cache with it, then flash TWRP back with Flashify.
Post your results.
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Is this only for people who already flashed TWRP? I'm stock rooted and seeing this.
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Is this only for people who already flashed TWRP? I'm stock rooted and seeing this.
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This is for everyone. If you haven't flash TWRP, then simply wipe the cache with stock recovery.
I just assumed most people would have TWRP flashed, my bad.
I am guessing that that this is an Android problem as the Galaxy S6 Edge has the same problem with battery drains.
Paradoxumical said:
To all:
Turn off VoLTE, turn off WiFi calling, install CPU Spy, ensure your phone is going into deep sleep. If it isn't, flash the stock recovery with Flashify, wipe the cache with it, then flash TWRP back with Flashify.
Post your results.
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I'm not rooted and I don't plan on doing so. I'm not sure of any other options. I unplugged it last night an let it sleep. Android system used about 14% of the battery. And I lost 20% charge. Cpu run time was 38 minutes too. and I never even woke it up post unplugging it.
I believe this Battery Drain Issue is a Lollipop issue. Was haing it with my One Plus One, I fixed it by going into privacy Guard, and going to Google Play Services and not allowing it to stay awake, and start by itself.
Ill find the actual thread and post it, same issues happening with a lot of phones using lollipop
Battery drain on a new device = bad flash (very common on android devices, first run)
1 wipe the devices and start it again from factory problem should go away. (at least the excessive drain anyway)
2 Ensure you have updated the Samsung Services app (this was responsible for most if not all battery drain issues if you reset your device)
3. Turn the bloody Screen brightness down and turn off Adaptive display (way way way too much battery drain using them)
4. LTE off and Cell data off if you on wifi, your wasting battery power communicating with cell sites you arnt using, the weaker the signal the more power you will drain for no benefit
6. GPS / Loc data off unless you need it even then wifi / AGPS is usually more than accurate, remember GPS + poor sky visibility = more power used to get a loc.
5 NEVER measure battery life for the first 24 hours way too much stuff syncing and updating to measure with any accuracy.
I get a solid 2 days out of the S6 with mixed use and a screen on time of 2:30 could get that upto 3 hours but i have a hearthstone addiction
As mentioned above, I highly recommend wiping the cache, even when not rooted.
Also, worst comes to worse, i'd completely redo the phone from scratch via the Smart Switch software samsung provide.
After updating my Z3's firmware to Lilipop, I'm facing huge battery drain. In kitkat, when returning home battery remained 55%. After update, I found it 30-35%. Note that my usage pattern didn't change.
How can I get rid of it?
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After updating my Z3's firmware to Lilipop, I'm facing huge battery drain. In kitkat, when returning home battery remained 55%. After update, I found it 30-35%. Note that my usage pattern didn't change.
How can I get rid of it?
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There is another thread for this issue.
Does there have the solution? Please share the link.
Many users reported that a factory reset fixed their problems. Only downside is that you have to reconfigure your phone
done factory reset manytimes but the drain remains..
seems like radio being active by apps is the problem
i'd love to post screenshots but since i am new here you know i am unable
Have you tried using BBS (better battery stats) to isolate the drain? And also try setting "keep wifi in sleepmode" to never or only when connected. Have heard of that working wonders for some.
And the screenshot thing can be overcome by uploading it to a different site and posting only the links
Preper yourself for NO notifications, if you put WI-FI to sleep.
I have wifi asleep and still get notifications. Maybe a little less frequent, but that's because stamina mode is working better (in my opinion) and only checks once in a while for new notifications
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I have wifi asleep and still get notifications. Maybe a little less frequent, but that's because stamina mode is working better (in my opinion) and only checks once in a while for new notifications
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That' s the Queue background data option that is doing that.
So there ARE notifications Vs what you said that there would be none. I rest my case here
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@ OP, I also ticked the option that other apps may not use wifi for location even when wifi is off. I believe that may also cost you some juice
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crazymister said:
Have you tried using BBS (better battery stats) to isolate the drain? And also try setting "keep wifi in sleepmode" to never or only when connected. Have heard of that working wonders for some.
And the screenshot thing can be overcome by uploading it to a different site and posting only the links
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thanks for suggestions ..
It's funny how my phone ran normal for the first week now the phone is being drained by Facebook and feedly, I have made no changes in any settings and its happening now. Haven't looked into the problem yet but don't even know is it third party issues lol.
One thing I found out is that the battery tend to drain at a lesser rate if you leave the phone charged for an extra 20 mins or more after hitting 100%. Just a speculation
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It's funny how my phone ran normal for the first week now the phone is being drained by Facebook and feedly, I have made no changes in any settings and its happening now. Haven't looked into the problem yet but don't even know is it third party issues lol.
One thing I found out is that the battery tend to drain at a lesser rate if you leave the phone charged for an extra 20 mins or more after hitting 100%. Just a speculation
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So, blame facebook for the battery drain.
There is an option where you can make the phone play a sound when is fully charged.
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Just clean flash stock ftf.. Ota just sucks. I did it and my battery returned to prime life again.
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I doubt that the reason we have the same problem is the same, but since I know how to post a screen cap, here's mine:
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Hey everyone,
It's been a while since I posted on the forum since although I wasn't overly happy with my battery life, it wasn't giving me too many problems. However the last couple of days have been a nightmare! For the record, my phone is not rooted.
I've attached some screen shots which I took on the fly, but I've been getting some really weird results from GSam. Since the 500% result I've reset the cache and the other images are what the battery is currently using.
However since its draining so fast I can barely see myself able to go anywhere without a charger!
I usually leave wifi and 4g off overnight anyway so when I woke up earlier I was surprised to see it with a 10% drain from doing absolutely nothing. I had to put it into power saving mode last night as I needed my alarm for the morning and was worried the phone would drain too quickly.
As far as I can tell the phone is sometimes entering deep sleep and sometimes not. It wasn't at all last night and isn't currently either. I really have no idea what the problem is and wanted to feel out some ideas before I factory reset the phone for the second time. I kind of wanted to avoid it if poss but am beginning to think it might be the only option. I'm also now worried there's something wrong with the battery
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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Hey everyone,
It's been a while since I posted on the forum since although I wasn't overly happy with my battery life, it wasn't giving me too many problems. However the last couple of days have been a nightmare! For the record, my phone is not rooted.
I've attached some screen shots which I took on the fly, but I've been getting some really weird results from GSam. Since the 500% result I've reset the cache and the other images are what the battery is currently using.
However since its draining so fast I can barely see myself able to go anywhere without a charger!
I usually leave wifi and 4g off overnight anyway so when I woke up earlier I was surprised to see it with a 10% drain from doing absolutely nothing. I had to put it into power saving mode last night as I needed my alarm for the morning and was worried the phone would drain too quickly.
As far as I can tell the phone is sometimes entering deep sleep and sometimes not. It wasn't at all last night and isn't currently either. I really have no idea what the problem is and wanted to feel out some ideas before I factory reset the phone for the second time. I kind of wanted to avoid it if poss but am beginning to think it might be the only option. I'm also now worried there's something wrong with the battery
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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Try debloating stock rom, use free debloater from XDA (You dont need root to use it). I've uploaded my list of debloated apps as reference, double check what You'r using and if You'r not sure what app does what try google-ing it.
You can also try disabling stock Chrome browser and install Chrome Beta (I've been using it for few years and never had any problems with it)
Also beware of disabling Samsung Store etc. as some members of XDA pointed that after disabling it, it won't work untill factory reset.
Check my previous posts, I've uploaded screenshots of my battery life with debloated rom from this list.
Does it work on Mac? I don't have a Windows computer. I've not done this sort of thing before, is it easy to do? :/
I'll look up chrome beta but I don't know if it's anything to do with that since it's pretty bad even when I'm not using anything. I wish I could tell what was rinsing my phone battery. Maybe I should attempt to root it after all.