Hi All,
When I recently got a P500 I installed GingerBlurb V5 as that seemed to me the most complete ROM. Basically I need everything working (my network is 3G only, no 2G, need bluetooth working for car). With this ROM everything worked. Have made some enhancements to it to update where it didn't include the latest, and installed the v2.5.8-ta-vsyncOff-20121129 kernel (as this had the latest long term kenel compiled in 2.6.35.14). Everything works very smoothly.
But I wonder if I should move on from Gingerbread. I've read some opinions here that people believe the P500 is really a gingerbread device, and going beyond that isn't conducive for functionality and battery life.
So what do you guys think? If there is no Android 4.x ROM that has basically everything working the point is moot obviously. If there is, is there still any advantage on staying with Gingerbread?
ICS is about as stable as GB these days, the main difference being the battery life. ICS drains the battery faster than GB, especially with wifi or mobile data on. JB and higher, the battery life drops even further -- an hour with mobile data on, and I lose 10-15% or more battery. JB also has the occasional bug. The latest KitKat test builds seem more stable than JB, imho, but again, battery (though it seems to do better than JB).
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Depends what you use your phone for. If you use it for calls & messaging, and not to much for games and media, KitKat is not that bad. I leave my phone to charge every night although the batter drops to about 40% during the day. So 60% lasts about 15 hours for me in normal usage.
It depends on you, sometimes you may want the feel of GB much than after when you flash new roms. As the above person says.. some rom may be as stable as that of GB and can be used as daily driver. But in the end of the day you will still be the one to decide on whether you'll move on or not. If you really are satisfied with GB then stay at it.. Cheers.
The best thing you can do is try to find the most stable and smooth ROM for each of GB, ICS, JB and KK and test them all. Keep the one that best suits your needs. Good luck!
After more than a year trying every ROM released on XDA for my P500, I've found that P500 native ROM are in GB, and in GB the device will show it's full potential, but beside that, I've also found that the second most stable ROM are ICS. For JB and KK I thinks it's still in test and development phaze.
The ICS ROM I used:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833218
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Hi folks,
Somewhere along the line, with all the rom updates that have gone on, I seem to have hit a sour point.
It's as if all of the Sense 3.5 roms i've tried have a laggy app drawer. Like the scrolling feels off and unresponsive.
I've found them to have better battery life though, which is why i've felt the need to update.
I did have a Sense 3.0 rom and kernel combo months ago that was great for both, but I cannot recall which one it was amongst all the updates.
I've just changed from Pyramid 3D 8.30 + bricked 1.6 b6 kernel. Perfectly fast, stable. But the phone drained like 17% overnight in idle which is far too hungry. (Had data and wifi disabled)
That use to be more like 1 or 2% in comparison, i'm not sure if it was the rom or kernel but it's perfectly fast.
I've just gone onto the Energy rom, great rom but it has that awful app drawer lag that drives me nuts. No idea how people aren't bothered by it.
Seems the Sense 3.0 roms are much cleaner and swifter but there don't seem to be any of those around now.
Any ideas?
EDIT: I'm already using the Anker battery.
im on the same page as you but as you have stated sense roms are not perfect and need some work still, im hoping that ics will fix this but time will only tell..
For now i suggest looking at arhd 4.1.9 which imo is the fastest and most stable sense rom but you should also look into trips aosp rom just for a look, this rom shows the potential of the phone as it is super quick and responsive it actually made my gaw drop with amazemnt.
What's the camera like on those AOSP ones tho?
Like i said you should have a look at the aosp just to see what its like but as for its stability it does have a few problems, crashes here and there and the camera should work but for me it doesn't.
I've just changed from Pyramid 3D 8.30 + bricked 1.6 b6 kernel. Perfectly fast, stable. But the phone drained like 17% overnight in idle which is far too hungry. (Had data and wifi disabled)
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Actually Piramid 3D 8.30 is based on HTC official 3.0 Sense and official 1.73.401.2 XE ROM - Android 2.3.4, did you wiped battery stats after charging continously from less than 5% to 100% in 8-12 hours time? If you did this, only idea I have is to change kernel to Bricked-v1.5-ondmnd-1536-192.show-p1984 and installing cam-fix.zip straight after to have working camera. I'm using this one now with SENSEaY 2.1.0, installed Virtuous O/C flashable.zip and Virtuous Controller.apk by myself to get rid of SetCPU, everything runs smoothly. For me battery lasts for 30-40 hours of moderate use (3G + xda app, some calls, texts, internet). With screen off it seems to drain 1% every hour.
DANOFDANGER said:
Like i said you should have a look at the aosp just to see what its like but as for its stability it does have a few problems, crashes here and there and the camera should work but for me it doesn't.
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Do you know any stable ICS AOSP ROMs for the Sensation?
Have not seen a stable ICS AOSP rom yet, most ICS roms are like a beta so expect issues for a while.
Answering the original poster, RevertedASOP is a gingerbread 2.3.7 aosp build; it is my daily driver and has zero lag for me, even when underclocked on Faux's kernel. No sense components of course, but if it is speed you are after then try it out.
What ROM/Kernel setup are you guys using that you've found good stability with?
Any suggestions?
Skyrocketeer with flashed Rogers radio. It's very stable, had some slight issues with the sms timestamps but with the help of SMStimeFIX from market it was solved. Also still looking to confirm if i obtain full 50mb/s LTE speed but until i got back to that spot where i always get it, i wont be able to confirm. It's a nice looking rom, snappy, fast, good battery life, nice emprovements
Stock rom. I've tried a few, including sky ics. Good rom but I still found stock more stable. But it depends on the user. I don't like to search as to why apps keep fcing. I just like it when I use my phone that it runs smooth. The rogers stock is good. Isn't any bloaware to slow it down. However I did get rid of the odd app and widget installed
hey i tried some roms soo far. the roms/kernel id recommend is either use sky/tpc/rocketeer. kernel wise id stay away from all kernels i mean no offence given devs work hard on kernel, but unless you rogers folks wanted a heat around camera area for everyday i know i don't use stock rogers kernel its snappy @ 1.5ghz + no lags + my heavy day to day lasts me 1 and 1/2 day with full use of wifi,bt,browser and games. just remove all the bloatware and u'll see.
Stock Rom for me, although I have started to play with Go Launcher to spice things up a little bit. Waiting for ICS my self.
Stock here as well, tried a few roms, and aside from over or under clocking, which I love, there haven't been any roms or kernels as stable so far. If someone comes up with a great way to 'clock let's hear it!
Also, anyone have a comprehensive list of bloatware on the 727R yet? That's a post I'd love to see!
Sent from my rooted SGS2 I727R using stock, until something really stable comes along
Runnin skyicecream sandwich jugglin between faux and romracer kernel cant get the romracer to deepsleep. Running faux at 1.5gz max with setcpu and its pretty stable no fc or sod. Smooth and fast.
rooted using sky ICS
tried cyanogen for a bit and liked it but sky ics just looks so nice. i get a few fcs but it doesnt bother me cause it reboots the program real fast
really good battery life on it, 15 hours at 70%
I've been on Android for over 3 years now..
Had so many different roms on my devices. This one I've used syrocketeer, was nice, smooth stable, not many issues.
Tried SkyIce Cream Sandwich rom. Was pissed off it was just a theme of ICS on 2.3.6 IMO name is very misleading, but whatever, to each his own. Was a good stable rom if you want a nice overlay of ICS, had a few issues with FC but the dev gives pretty good instructions on how to fix it.
Most of these I was running primarily until Cyanogen team came out with something stable enough to put on my phone. As I've always found CM to be the best thing you can run.
Newest build for me has been very stable - running Da_G kernel. No issues except for the call issue posted in their forums. I think that was supposed to be fixed in the latest update, however I haven't gotten around to updating. Turning GPS on seemed to work to fix the issue tho. I would never change to anything else (unless real ICS rom came out, then would only stay on that till CM9 came out with a stable enough release)
I have confirmed in most parts of Toronto where reception is decent enough I'm getting an average of 30+ mbps. Closer to downtown core upwards of 40mbps and in a few cases up to 58mbps. So LTE works great on that ROM as well.
i use Bouyancy 1.2.1 with 360 launcher doesn't change baseband smooth and snappy
SkyRocket ICS 2.9.2
faux kernal 2.6.35.14......
max clock 1.296
min clock 384
screen off max 384
screen off min 192
runs smooth as hell, great battery life
not one issue with ANYTHING!!!
Sky is very smooth and nice with faux kernel no problems here
TPC V3 with Da_g 0.43 kernel. No issue at all. Very stable.
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using sky ics for a few weeks now with no fc's on either faux or rom racer kernal.
Rooted, stock rom & kernel, ADW launcher.
I was loving Darkyy on my SGS but even though I played with a couple ROMS and kernels on the SII LTE I went back to stock. Solid, fast, and good battery life.
I did freeze and uninstall most of what I could identify as bloatware and the horrid touchwiz slowpoke. I picked up ADW EX when it was on the 10 for 0.10 sale, and like it better (landscape mode and the ability to customize the dock easily is a big bonus).
Jamie
Using the Stock rom. Haven't had one issue with it and since I'm coming from a Touch pro 2 running WM 6.1 this thing is fast enough as is......For now.
Stock myself, played around with a few ROMs but ended up liking the reliability of the stock. Eagerly awaiting ICS and CM 9.
I have flashed almost all of the ROMs on here and in my opinion the snappiest one was the Quikwiz 1.0.3 and skyrocketeer was pretty quick as well. Right now im running stock though because as almost everybody said it is the most stable build for Rogers rightnow. I am trying to get the stock-ish kernel by romracer on my phone right now. If anybody has flashed that i would like to know how the battery and speed were? Thanks
Stock Rom for me, i tried Da_G's Kernel but got alot of SOD's. There were a few fixes such as deleting modules etc but none of those ever fixed it. Sadly I'm getting poor battery life on my Samsung Galaxy S2 LTE even with JuiceDefender Ultimate installed. Before JuiceDefender I was about to take the phone back, now it's just sub par battery life. As for now I'm done with messing around on flashing the phone , at least until we get our stock ICS ROM. It should be coming out soon, that's my hope.
I've flashed Sky and TPC. Both are fairly stable, but I'm not getting any where close to the battery life some of these AT&T guys are getting.
I'm a fairly heavy user—LTE on all day, but I have wifi on at work and home.
I personally don't feel that flashing a new ROM has done anything for my battery life, however it HAS improved my usability factor (both Sky and TPC have been able to grant me a sizeable performance increase).
I have galaxy skyrocket with 2.3.5 and pretty happy with it. A friend installed ICS on his and on a quick glance I have not noticed any major benefits.
In general I am all for using latest software, but this is my primary phone and my life almost depends on it. I had some bad experience with experimental ROMs on my previous phone (it started hanging up and battery life decreased significantly) and this time I am cautious to upgrade and weighting pros and cons.
So, my question is: what are the major benefits on ICS compared to 2.3.5?
What major features I will get which would make it worth updating?
Thanks!
Pro:
Cooler apps
More aesthetically pleasing UX
ICS!!!
Con:
Terrible battery if you keep bloat
Not too much kernel modding
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using XDA
I'll chime in. The GB rom's are MUCH better right now. ICS leak is slow, and tons of bugs. None of the devs are able to fix the bugs so the custom roms are simply themed, packages added/removed, etc, and all the ICS bugs remain. The only thing ICS really brings right now is a better launcher and the ability to run the few ICS apps out there. When I switched back to GB I couldn't believe how fast my phone was.
I tried the leak and was less than impressed by the difference.
I have been back on Gingerbread ever since.
Sky ICS speed, faux 010u.
Super stable and very modder friendly.
I was loving the nexusmod GB rom but i took the leap yesterday to jump up to ICS. i flashed the UCLA4 modem followed by superlite 5 and honestly, i'm loving it. its much more aesthetically pleasing, and zippy as hell. On top of that, add supercharger and the build.prop tweaks mentioned earlier in the general section and you have a blazing fast UI.
I haven't noticed any battery drain yet, i think that might've been fixed in this latest version. It's honestly draining the same rate as it did on nexusmod. I get through a day with about 20-30% while listening to music, texting my gf regularly, and connected to wifi to play words with friends/draw something.
My vote : get yourself up to superlite
I tried the ICS leak stock (rooted and debloated).
The negatives out weighed the positives I get. In particular the battery life was worse. I got 4-6 hours less life from each charge.
Also some of the bugs, such as losing root and restart/reboot lock ups did not show up for a few days after I installed ICS.
I am back to 2.3.5.
It works well for me, YMMV.
Hi all. Some advice from this community, pls. Need your advise on a great battery performing custom gingerbread ROM.
I need my phone to eek out whatever battery life it can give me. 3 to 4 hours of conference calls a day and the calls are critical because these conference calls can impact the company I work for in 7 figures and up.
Obviously I'm not some high school kid rocking the lastest rom to beat out my buds in quadran on dateless nights. But I do stay connected with my friends via social media means. I went back to GB based ROMS because ICS (even the new 4.0.4) just doesn't cut it when it comes to battery life and to me, offers no functionality enhancement over MIUI GB based ROMs.
Does anyone know if MIUI is still developing new ROMS on gingerbread? Can someone point me to a site? I've been to all the MIUI sites linked here and all I see is ICS ROMS. Or is there any other ROMS that are still being developed on GB you know of?
Thanks so much!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1181050 thats the best imo you can go if you whant gb rom.
i get 15hours from my battery on cyborg rom v10 ics.
Thank you!
elboss said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1181050 thats the best imo you can go if you whant gb rom.
i get 15hours from my battery on cyborg rom v10 ics.
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Thanks for your advice, that is the GB ROM I'm already loving. Just wish the development would continue to polish off some FCs.
I totally love CYBERGR's v9 (2nd only to MIUI due to MIUI apps), but the battery life was just poor compared to my all the GB ROMS I've already had prior to trying out CYBERGR. I'll keep an eye out for v10's user feedback along with yours. Thanks for sharing.
cheers!
While battery is important I just can't make sense of this.
For these very important conference calls daily you are not around a car charger/AC power/or even usb power?
Then you always get a extra battery or a extended battery or multiple battery's.
While battery life is important for someone that has your usage pattern/requirements there really is no reason to have to resort to going back to gb roms to get more battery life.
Thanks!
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While battery is important I just can't make sense of this.
For these very important conference calls daily you are not around a car charger/AC power/or even usb power?
Then you always get a extra battery or a extended battery or multiple battery's.
While battery life is important for someone that has your usage pattern/requirements there really is no reason to have to resort to going back to gb roms to get more battery life.
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Thanks for the comments but in my testing of all the GB vs ICS ROMs, I have found substantial more usage time out of GB ROMs. Otherwise, I would not be asking this question, right?
For those of you who care to know, the difference between my experience in all of the GB and ICS ROMS is just that: with any ICS ROM, I WILL NEED A/C with me at all times whereas with GB ROMS, most of them can get me through most days with only needing AC at the end of my work.
Have fun with your devices, all!
Hey I'm a noobie here but I wanted to ask if I upgraded to a 4.0/4.1 rom would I run into any performance issues? (lack of processing power/lack of ram, etc)
Also, should I expect a decrease in battery life or an increase?
Thanks!
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Hey I'm a noobie here but I wanted to ask if I upgraded to a 4.0/4.1 rom would I run into any performance issues? (lack of processing power/lack of ram, etc)
Also, should I expect a decrease in battery life or an increase?
Thanks!
edit: sorry I realized I posted this in the wrong section, can a mod please move it
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I experienced lower battery life and performance issues.
From apps taking longer to launch to general lagginess of the rom. Other users have complaints about that in the various dev threads.
I started a thread in general about my downgrade to cm7. I have to say it makes the cappy feel new after using various laggy ics/jb roms.
But as with all things your mileage may vary. Not everyone complains about the upgrades.
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I experienced lower battery life and performance issues.
From apps taking longer to launch to general lagginess of the rom. Other users have complaints about that in the various dev threads.
I started a thread in general about my downgrade to cm7. I have to say it makes the cappy feel new after using various laggy ics/jb roms.
But as with all things your mileage may vary. Not everyone complains about the upgrades.
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Thanks, that was definitely something I was worried about. I actually recently started to use the Captivate because my old iPhone 3GS just ran terribly choppy (along with a much decreased battery life) with the newer iOS that was forced onto it so I don't want that kind of situation to reoccur.
I'm personally running the Slim Bean 2.1 rom which is Android 4.1. Other than the small bugs listed on their site, my phone is running butter smooth with no issues. As a moderate user to heavy user, my battery lasts pretty much the whole day and some. You just gotta follow the dev instructions and do your research.
I am currently running slim Bean, but I also ran slim ics. Which I felt that my phone has never run better on either of these two roms... Battery life was about the same for me between gb, ics, and jb.
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One of the great features of ICS/JB is the battery settings option. From here, you can see what is draining your battery. When I flashed CM10 a few weeks ago, I noticed one of the widgets I used on CM9 was draining the battery big time (30-40%). So I disabled that widget and now I get battery life that is equal if not better then stock GB.
I've also ordred some 1800mAH batteries from Amazon which will definitely get me through a work day.
I'm currently Paranoid Android JB, and the battery life difference from 4.0 is negligible, but from 2.3, it's quite a change. As far as lag, it would be pretty bad if I was unable to OC it. Currently comfy at 1200MHz with the ondemand governor, and battery life is still better than GB.
I was stock GB for ages and had decent battery life. Then switched to CM 7.2 and had a horrible battery life. Switched to CM 9.1 and it isn't any better. So I ordered a 1800 battery, hopefully it will improve things.
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Just as a mini update for anyone viewing this thread, i've tried both CM9 and Jelly Bean Lanight rom. Both have been pretty fast, haven't really seen any lag issues and battery is relatively the same.
ICS update to sgh-i897 captivate
I updated my ATT captivate SGHi897 to ICS recently from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22555425
I am bit novice here on ROM .version build etc. but its running 4.0.3 Build - IML74K eng.
I notice my captivate is now bit laggy in opening up cameraand some apps but not that significant.
Actually It has solved many issues when i was running gingerbread earlier with too many forceclose issues , choppy signal , calls dropping etc.
Also I noticed my network signal is much better and shows " H " instead of 3g earlier. I did not know captivate is compatible for H and not just 3g.
I did notice te browsing is much much faster than gingerbread. ginger bread was horrible than the previous OS.
I was bale to browse in the same places where I was not even getting any signal to make voice calls , the Signal reception is great with ICS now . Not sure how a OS can affect the signal reception.
over all i am happy with ICS on my captivate.
My battery is so awful, I already bought an 1800mAh battery but it didn't really seem to help
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My wife runs cm9 loves it. Fastest ROM she's had. Swears by it. I noticed alot of roms only do 3g no 3g at home so it goes to edge. But cm9 let's her get 4g everywhere. I've been out of the scene since my cappy went swimming . I miss it very much! Great phone. Go cyanogen mod download gapps. You want galaxymtd btw.
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hsraghu said:
I updated my ATT captivate SGHi897 to ICS recently from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22555425
I am bit novice here on ROM .version build etc. but its running 4.0.3 Build - IML74K eng.
I notice my captivate is now bit laggy in opening up cameraand some apps but not that significant.
Actually It has solved many issues when i was running gingerbread earlier with too many forceclose issues , choppy signal , calls dropping etc.
Also I noticed my network signal is much better and shows " H " instead of 3g earlier. I did not know captivate is compatible for H and not just 3g.
I did notice te browsing is much much faster than gingerbread. ginger bread was horrible than the previous OS.
I was bale to browse in the same places where I was not even getting any signal to make voice calls , the Signal reception is great with ICS now . Not sure how a OS can affect the signal reception.
over all i am happy with ICS on my captivate.
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The ICS browser has been reworked and made better. It is faster and a lot more stable than the GB browser. Signal quality could be due to the fact that the i9000 with ics has newer and better modems. Btw im looking at your link and i noticed that you flashed a rom from the i9000 forums. I would suggest that you flash a rom from i897 forums. Even though both phones have similar spec they are very different and that could be the cause of your lag.