Has anyone managed to get foldermount working with OTG on the n5? If so, how? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm no stranger to mounting obb to external sdcard on devices that have them but I am unable to get it to work using OTG.
Has ANYONE managed to get this working so they can mount obb games from OTG? If so, please can you share the following info:
- what method of mounting OTG do you use?
- please give example of source / destination of obb based game you have successfully moved and mounted
- was OTG mounted when you created the pair?
- must OTG be mounted before or after foldermount mounts?
- must you reboot before you can mount?
Any other info gratefully received. My issue is that foldermount fails to mount the pair after boot. I was assuming the otg must be mounted first.
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You tried a custom kernel or rom? Everything works perfectly for me

Juansegovia20 said:
You tried a custom kernel or rom? Everything works perfectly for me
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Always. Please can you answer the questions in post 1 if you have it working? I don't really need if its working (I know it should). I need to know how it is working
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You tried a custom kernel or rom? Everything works perfectly for me
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That's great... Now can you please share how you did it like the op asked
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rootSU said:
I'm no stranger to mounting obb to external sdcard on devices that have them but I am unable to get it to work using OTG.
Has ANYONE managed to get this working so they can mount obb games from OTG? If so, please can you share the following info:
- what method of mounting OTG do you use?
- please give example of source / destination of obb based game you have successfully moved and mounted
- was OTG mounted when you created the pair?
- must OTG be mounted before or after foldermount mounts?
- must you reboot before you can mount?
Any other info gratefully received. My issue is that foldermount fails to mount the pair after boot. I was assuming the otg must be mounted first.
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1i got an otg cable and connect a usb storage to it
2 Data and Obb folders mounted successfully and both working when mounted
3 source: android.. Destination: android/data or android/obb on usb storage that i created manually
4 OTG was mounted when i created the pair
5 must be mounted before creating the pair
6 no reboot (for me )
7 using mahdi rom and tried with a few others as well
8 one thing i created the pair manually in storage/usb disk/android

Juansegovia20 said:
1i got an otg cable and connect a usb storage to it
2 Data and Obb folders mounted successfully and both working when mounted
3 source: android.. Destination: android/data or android/obb on usb storage that i created manually
4 OTG was mounted when i created the pair
5 must be mounted before creating the pair
6 no reboot (for me )
7 using mahdi rom and tried with a few others as well
8 one thing i created the pair manually in storage/usb disk/android
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What app to mount otg?
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Sorry i was working, no app, it's in the kernel that comes with the rom, after you connect the otg if you go to storage in your setting, you will see there is a external storage
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I believe you can also use chaos kernel to mount your otg
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What app to mount otg?
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Juansegovia20 said:
Sorry i was working, no app, it's in the kernel that comes with the rom, after you connect the otg if you go to storage in your setting, you will see there is a external storage
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I believe you can also use chaos kernel to mount your otg
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Ah that makes sense. Nothing mounts on my kernel without an app....
I'll check out chaos
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K please do let us know if you get it working? if the kernel itself doesn't work for you please try mahdi rom and i promise you will see the results, and one last thing, i bet you were using stick mount and that app mount my otg as one more folder in my internal storage and not as a external storage, well that's what i think.
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Can't wait to get my meenova thing. Thanks for sharing how to use it. I'll have to check out those custom kernels. I've just been using the one that came with omnirom because I didn't feel like messing with any extra features but I'll try those other ones unless OmniROM has it which I don't think it does.
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and that app mount my otg as one more folder in my internal storage and not as a external storage
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Yes, this is exactly the problem.
Thanks

OK It sort of works with Chaos. By sort of, I mean it works "enough" for me.
Here are my notes...
When the phone boots and foldermount does it's mounting, the message will say "none" in the folder mount Toast message (if the USB stick is not connected)
When I plug the USB stick in, the mounts don't change. I have to manually go into foldermount and press the little "pin" icon in the bottom left corner to turn all the pin icons green, which signifies the mounts are then active. Games work as expected.
If I unplug the USB, the /sdcard/Android/obb folders for each mounted game appear as empty. When I reinsert the stick, this remains the case, so I must manually go into folder mount and press the "un pin" icon in the bottom right corner, then press the "pin" icon again in the bottom left corner.
It's not quite plug and play, however, given I was manually copying folders back and forth previously, this is definitely an acceptable manual step for me.
FYI, USB storage still doesn't show in settings > Storage, however it IS at least mounted to the correct location. A much better solution to stick mount.

rootSU said:
OK It sort of works with Chaos. By sort of, I mean it works "enough" for me.
Here are my notes...
When the phone boots and foldermount does it's mounting, the message will say "none" in the folder mount Toast message (if the USB stick is not connected)
When I plug the USB stick in, the mounts don't change. I have to manually go into foldermount and press the little "pin" icon in the bottom left corner to turn all the pin icons green, which signifies the mounts are then active. Games work as expected.
If I unplug the USB, the /sdcard/Android/obb folders for each mounted game appear as empty. When I reinsert the stick, this remains the case, so I must manually go into folder mount and press the "un pin" icon in the bottom right corner, then press the "pin" icon again in the bottom left corner.
It's not quite plug and play, however, given I was manually copying folders back and forth previously, this is definitely an acceptable manual step for me.
FYI, USB storage still doesn't show in settings > Storage, however it IS at least mounted to the correct location. A much better solution to stick mount.
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OK so before you play you gotta click on the pin then when your done and want to unplug you press the un pin before unplugging and everything works?
Just want to make sure I understand right. Also is it possible to view the external storage like an SD card on other devices so you can see what's on it and move stuff to it? Or did you just use the pair option on folder mount to move your obb files to the otg?
Sorry for all the questions just want to make sure I know how to set it up
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OK so before you play you gotta click on the pin then when your done and want to unplug you press the un pin before unplugging and everything works?
Just want to make sure I understand right. Also is it possible to view the external storage like an SD card on other devices so you can see what's on it and move stuff to it? Or did you just use the pair option on folder mount to move your obb files to the otg?
Sorry for all the questions just want to make sure I know how to set it up
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You dont HAVE to unpin before unmounting. You can simply unplug the OTG stick. However, next time you plug it in (if no reboot between) you will need to unpin then repin. If you unpin and remove, you only have to reping when you plug it back in. You will always need to unpin as a step (using this kernel) however, its just a case of whether you do it as you unplug or when you insert.
You can browse it, yes. I use Solid Explorer myself so I just set my second panel to default to /storage/USBdisk

Jaja sorry guys, the folder mount developer should update folder mount to be more compatible with the nexus 5
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Jaja sorry guys, the folder mount developer should update folder mount to be more compatible with the nexus 5
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It would be good if a mount could be triggered by tasker...
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OK I've ordered a meenova but it seems like it's gonna take forever...
While I wait I'd like to know if I moved all my titanium backups and twrp backups to the external storage would I be able to restore them from it? Like can twrp mount it? So if I got in a boot loop and needed to restore would plugging it in allow me to mount with twrp and restore?
I hope that makes sense because I know folder mount won't work since the phone will be off.
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A mount is basically a redirect. It works by moving the folderA content into folderB and then it basically "points" folderA to folderB, a bit like a shortcut. So when an app looks inside folderA, it will see folderB's content.
Since foldermount runs in android, yes titanium backup will work but no, TWRP will not.
However, you could use philz recovery (see signature) and backup directly to otg
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A mount is basically a redirect. It works by moving the folderA content into folderB and then it basically "points" folderA to folderB, a bit like a shortcut. So when an app looks inside folderA, it will see folderB's content.
Since foldermount runs in android, yes titanium backup will work but no, TWRP will not.
However, you could use philz recovery (see signature) and backup directly to otg
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Alright thanks I've used philz recovery on my nexus 10 and it's really reliable so I won't mind using it here as well
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[DEV] Native usb storage otg

Made some progress with USB storage without the use of an app. Setup so far is really simple. Add a line to /system/etc/vold.fstab that looks like this:
dev_mount usbdrive /mnt/usbdrive auto /devices/platform/tegra-ehci.0
Still need work on getting the external storage managed by the system.
WARNING:
This is just a first step and with no way to unmount using Android's storage manager you may corrupt your external storage.
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Made some progress with USB storage without the use of an app. Setup so far is really simple. Add a line to /system/etc/vold.fstab that looks like this:
dev_mount usbdrive /mnt/usbdrive auto /devices/platform/tegra-ehci.0
Still need work out how to unmount. hope this helps someone.
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Does that mean I can back up and restore stuff via otg as if it were my external sd card?
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Does that mean I can back up and restore stuff via otg as if it were my external sd card?
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u can with the new twrp
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u can with the new twrp
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NOOOO! I Seriously! And you tell me this now. Thanks I'll give it a whirl.
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Wow I JUST got my OTG yesterday. Fantastic timing.
what this means... hopefully
As it stands now, adding this line will cause your N7 to automount a usb drive to /usbdrive. You will see "preparing usb storage" in the notification bar and your file explorer of choice will see the data in /usbdrive. Unmounting is an issue at this point. I hope to fix that in a few days when I get the time.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.stickmount
I believe this works on the N7 I am waiting on my cable to test. I realize you want to do it without a app but the syntax should be close.
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Made some progress with USB storage without the use of an app. Setup so far is really simple. Add a line to /system/etc/vold.fstab that looks like this:
dev_mount usbdrive /mnt/usbdrive auto /devices/platform/tegra-ehci.0
Still need work out how to unmount. hope this helps someone.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that CM10 already has USB Storage OTG built into it with the last few nightlies.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that CM10 already has USB Storage OTG built into it with the last few nightlies.
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Yes it does from what I know
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a day late and a dollar...
Haven't been following the cm10 builds. Still gonna push forward for the exercise.
People who don't run CM10, can use this method. Would be cool if unmount is done.
Guys, quick question as I'm receiving my N7 tonight, the usb stick format can be ntfs? Or only fat32? Thanks
EDIT: saw from other thread, ntfs seems ok as well. i already got the tab and will start unlock and root.
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Versatile1 said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.stickmount
I believe this works on the N7 I am waiting on my cable to test. I realize you want to do it without a app but the syntax should be close.
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Just wanted to confirm that stickmount works well with the N7.
I have it installed and I've used it on two different usb drives.
A 32GB PNY USB2.0 Flash Drive Stick
And an 8GB uSD card inserted into an elago II USB Reader.
Both worked without any issues.
However, I'm still intrigued by a method to get usb mass storage support natively w/o an app
That does it...I give in! I gotta try the twrp recovery. Feel like I just decided to cheat on my girlfriend.
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I will be following your progress.
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As it stands now, adding this line will cause your N7 to automount a usb drive to /usbdrive. You will see "preparing usb storage" in the notification bar and your file explorer of choice will see the data in /usbdrive. Unmounting is an issue at this point. I hope to fix that in a few days when I get the time.
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But stickmount already does that and it unmounts it as well.
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Can someone point me to an otg cable thats on a uk site pleae?
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Can someone point me to an otg cable thats on a uk site pleae?
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I saw a post about it somewhere around here. Referenced Amazon.uk, the title was USB otg that work and ones that don't I believe. Google can probably get it. If I wasn't using the app I would hook you up.
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calmfury said:
Made some progress with USB storage without the use of an app. Setup so far is really simple. Add a line to /system/etc/vold.fstab that looks like this:
dev_mount usbdrive /mnt/usbdrive auto /devices/platform/tegra-ehci.0
Still need work on getting the external storage managed by the system.
WARNING:
This is just a first step and with no way to unmount using Android's storage manager you may corrupt your external storage.
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Can I ask, does this support NTFS r/w? or r/o.
Everything I've tried, aside from USB OTG Helper--including a CM10 kang rom that claimed to support ntfs OTG--will only mount r/o.
Including the command $ mount -t ntfs /dev/block/sda1 /usbdisk. I guess it's the ntfs driver or something? but it will only mount r/o. Even $ mount -o remount,rw /dev/block/sda1 /usbdisk does not work, it still is ro.
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Can someone point me to an otg cable thats on a uk site pleae?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812609
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[Q] usb mass storage mode?

How do enable this so I can transfer some files on my computer? I only get mtp or some other camera option. I just want it to show up as a normal drive. Is there a different driver to be installed?
google removed mass storage mode from android (jellybean(?) and later)
(i think it was b/c mass storage mode does not allow the phone to mount /sdcard while connected to PC.... so apps using /sdcard for storage may become unstable... MTP allows both phone and computer to access /sdcard together, with the phone controlling access)
custom kernels/roms may still include this feature
It can't be done on a FUSE file system
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abmone said:
How do enable this so I can transfer some files on my computer? I only get mtp or some other camera option. I just want it to show up as a normal drive. Is there a different driver to be installed?
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Via Developer Options and enabling USB Debugging, mine shows up as you say "like a normal drive". To see everything, you'll want to make sure "Media Device (MTP)" is selected. Also make sure you have the drivers for your device installed on your computer.
If that still doesnt work, try using: SG USB Mass Storage Enabler, available for free on the app store (play.google.com)
That worked for me on my Galaxy S4 on the GPE Rom.
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google removed mass storage mode from android (jellybean(?) and later)
(i think it was b/c mass storage mode does not allow the phone to mount /sdcard while connected to PC.... so apps using /sdcard for storage may become unstable... MTP allows both phone and computer to access /sdcard together, with the phone controlling access)
custom kernels/roms may still include this feature
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this is just all kinds of wrong.
google didnt remove it, there's just no sdcard slot so there is no mass storage mode. end of discussion.
This is also wrong. The one x had no sdcard slot but still had mass storage mode.
The reason it's gone is because of the fused sdcard partition. It is actually an ext4 partition which cannot be read by windows in mass storage mode.
The reason they did this was firstly better performance and less limitations than fat in android. And that the partition can be dynamically changed so no risk of /data becoming full and not being able to install anymore apps etc..
There are several other reasons but I'm not going into the boring stuff
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The reason it's gone is because of the fused sdcard partition. It is actually an ext4 partition which cannot be read by windows in mass storage mode.
The reason they did this was firstly better performance and less limitations than fat in android.
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Exactly. Windows blows, we all know that.
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There are several other reasons but I'm not going into the boring stuff
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I think I pretty much covered the reasons in my n5 data thread in general if anyone wants to read it
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[Q] USB mount on stock

Hello, i want to be able to mount usb storage like CM10, 11 on stock rom and still be able to update OTA.
Is there any MOD around here?
you cannot mount a fused storage system like the nexus has as a USB mass storage.
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you cannot mount a fused storage system like the nexus has as a USB mass storage.
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i meant to mount USB OTG sorry i wasn't specific
Stick mount
Usb otg helper
Media importer
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danydani90 said:
i meant to mount USB OTG sorry i wasn't specific
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Get stickmount by chainfire
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Get stickmount by chainfire
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i would have prefered a MOD (not as an extra app installed)
but i think this will work thanks

[Q] What's a file explorer that can r/w to OTG USB?

I have the meenova micro SD OTG reader and the only way i can access files from through my phone is from TWRP when i flash roms and such. I want to be able to move files back and forth from my phone using the Meenova but i've only seen peopl;e suggest nexus importer but it doesn't really work for me that well, I'm using root explorer right now and it doesn't let me access my usb otg. Basically i want a file explorer that let's me use the meenova to move files and not have to boot into twrp to have to do it and i dont want to have to pay a fortune for an app that will let me do this.
Hi,
Take a look for these apps: https://play.google.com/store/search?q=stickmount&c=apps&hl=fr.
Apps like Stickmount have a free version, you can test... After that I use Root Explorer without any issue.
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Hi,
Take a look for these apps: https://play.google.com/store/search?q=stickmount&c=apps&hl=fr.
Apps like Stickmount have a free version, you can test... After that I use Root Explorer without any issue.
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Thanks ! Some great results came out
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Thanks ! Some great results came out
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Re,
Yes , for my usage I use Stickmount (the free version). Once the USB is mounted I can move, copy, delete the files. With Root Explorer the path is /sdcard/usbStorage/sda1.
Depends what you want to do. Apps like stickmount are ok if you just want to read/write data on the card through a file explorer. However since these apps dont mount correctly (mount in sdcard for non-root users), they're useless if you want to move game data onto usb otg. Fir that you need it mounting in /storage so custom kernel like chaos is what you'd need
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rootSU said:
Depends what you want to do. Apps like stickmount are ok if you just want to read/write data on the card through a file explorer. However since these apps dont mount correctly (mount in sdcard for non-root users), they're useless if you want to move game data onto usb otg. Fir that you need it mounting in /storage so custom kernel like chaos is what you'd need
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How can I tell if its mounting to storage or not. I'm on purity using stock purity kernel.
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zolo185 said:
How can I tell if its mounting to storage or not. I'm on purity using stock purity kernel.
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Im sorry, I don't understand the question. Does purity say it automounts USB otg in its list of features? Most roms / kernels do not offer this.
I only know 1 kernel and 1 rom that does. Chaos kernel and Mahdi rom. This doesn't mean more don't do it but I don't know the features if every rom or kernel.
Browse to /storage on the root of your device to see what's there
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rootSU said:
Im sorry, I don't understand the question. Does purity say it automounts USB otg in its list of features? Most roms / kernels do not offer this.
I only know 1 kernel and 1 rom that does. Chaos kernel and Mahdi rom. This doesn't mean more don't do it but I don't know the features if every rom or kernel.
Browse to /storage on the root of your device to see what's there
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Sorry, and it does not mention it in the ROM features and I don't have the USB otg with me at the moment I'm in school. But here is what it shows me now.
*note* the SDA 1 is what I just added to see if it would mount there later on as vicking said above.
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If you use stickmount, it will mount to /storage/sdcard0/usbStorage/sda1
Chaos kernel mounts to /storage/USBdisk
You don't create anything yourself. It creates as and when required
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[Q] OTG Problem?

Hi guys! Just got a new USB OTG cable and also got stickmount PRO, and i connected my flash drive to my phone and stickmount detected it and i clicked mount and after i was done i clicked unmount and the flash drive got unmounted and so did my sdcard partition and it wouldn't be mounted unless i reboot my device, i've heard of this problem before but never found a solution. Also i'm running the latest version of slimkat and franco kernel, If there's a rom and, or kernel that supports OTG could you point it out for me please cuz i don't want to use stickmount because of this problem. I also tried usb OTG helper and the app crashes when i mount. Please help me and i'm sorry for asking a noob question.
Chaos kernel supports otg. I haven't tried it though.
Chaos is a CAF kernel so you'd have to use an old version on slim.
I use elementalx on slim which also automounts otg via the storage menu.
I still use stickmount too though because elementalx hasn't exported external storage in the correct way yet so can't use foldermount. If you simply want to browse though, elementalx is fine.
I've never had this problem with stickmount. I've never used franco though
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rootSU said:
Chaos is a CAF kernel so you'd have to use an old version on slim.
I use elementalx on slim which also automounts otg via the storage menu.
I still use stickmount too though because elementalx hasn't exported external storage in the correct way yet so can't use foldermount. If you simply want to browse though, elementalx is fine.
I've never had this problem with stickmount. I've never used franco though
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Thanks! I'm gonna flash elementalx and report back, also would you mind telling me what rom you're running just in case it didn't work for me.
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Thanks! I'm gonna flash elementalx and report back, also would you mind telling me what rom you're running just in case it didn't work for me.
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Ha ha. Already mentioned it in the 2nd line of my first post
Have another look
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Ha ha. Already mentioned it in the 2nd line of my first post
Have another look
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LOL I didn't see that. also i flashed elementalx and i'm still getting the same problem:crying:, i unmount and then a popup shows saying that youtube crashed and when i go to es file explorer it's the same problem. Is there another kernel which isn't CAF that natively supports usb otg?
You're unmounting via storage menu and not using stickmount?
No.point looking at kernels. This isn't a kernel problem. This is a you problem. By you, I.don't mean you yourself. Rather, I mean there is a problem with your config. Usbotg works fine with latest slim and elementalx without issue. Must be an app or something.
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You're unmounting via storage menu and not using stickmount?
No.point looking at kernels. This isn't a kernel problem. This is a you problem. By you, I.don't mean you yourself. Rather, I mean there is a problem with your config. Usbotg works fine with latest slim and elementalx without issue. Must be an app or something.
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Thanks for telling me bout elementalx unmounting and mounting via storage menu works now, but the problem is still there with stickmount, it seems like it's stickmount's problem. You also mentioned that elementalx had a problem with external storage does that mean that i can't use apps like GLtoSD so that i can put my game data in my flash drive?
I only use stickmount because of a setting that's missing that prevents foldermount mounting folders from /sdcard to USB. You don't need to use it simply to browse.
No idea why stickmount causes this problem for you. Works fine for me.
No idea what gltosd is. You'll have to test it yourself
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rootSU said:
I only use stickmount because of a setting that's missing that prevents foldermount mounting folders from /sdcard to USB. You don't need to use it simply to browse.
No idea why stickmount causes this problem for you. Works fine for me.
No idea what gltosd is. You'll have to test it yourself
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GL to SD does the same thing as foldermount except it's a more user-friendly interface made for games
Probably wont work then without stickmount
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rootSU said:
I only use stickmount because of a setting that's missing that prevents foldermount mounting folders from /sdcard to USB. You don't need to use it simply to browse.
No idea why stickmount causes this problem for you. Works fine for me.
No idea what gltosd is. You'll have to test it yourself
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Just found out that the main problem was my explorer (after i unmount with stickmount es file explorer tells me sdcard not found but other explorers show it normally) it wasn't the kernel's problem nor stickmount's. Godammit i feel so stupid *facepalm*. Anyways thanks for helping me, also elementalx is amazing, really good battery life and performance.
Yep good kernel
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