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Threads... why?

Ive seen MS chose to combine IM and SMS and to me this looks really messy.
First of all the integration of IM is quite nice but I wish it was kept seperate from SMS conversations since these are to the majority of people still different than IMs and used on different devices or apps. I dont want to continue a conversation automatically on a different app or something. This will be very annoying to the other user.
Certainly if somebody just left his/her pc on or IM on accidently....
They should have added facebook private messaging as well and IM/SMS seperated like it was and just added a chat pivot in the messaging hub.
to me an sms is still something every user has always with him her, like when u send somebody an address or something it should be on their phones and not deliverd trough IM and its annoying having to switch first.
Its kind of short sighted implementation, the idea is good but the reality will be very annoying the way it works now.
you will get a ton of sms like notifications for every IM which can be annoying since on a chat conversation people send much more messages per minute than trough sms. Having to toggle online offline all the time will be a pita
am i the only one who thinks this will be garbage? Instead they should have allowed third party apps like whatsapp to use this on user permission. I hope I can switch off the live messenger. Or just revert back to the original sms screen

I like the idea to have an overview of my messages regardlessly whether they come via SMS, Windows Live or Facebook. Although I agree that getting notifications for all those messages shown on the SMS tile would be kind of overwhelming. But I can imagine Microsoft changes the way the tile works. So it still shows the number of SMS, but in addition to that shows an icon or something when you recieve a chat message from Facebook or Windows Live.

In my opinion.. the best feauture ever, of every OS. Loved that!

I love it as well, and think its nice not to have to go to 4 different places for my facebook, text, wlm & (eventually skype).
While I hope they either have a toggle setting for separate 'rows', or add it soon after Mango for those who really don't like it, I honestly doubt they want to mess it up by having too many places for messages. It fits in pretty perfectly with their vision for the overall UI design imo.

For me,M$ thread is not a new idea,it just copying the messaging app in the HP webos...however HP webos messaging is better,they can download apps that support HP connect and integrate into the messaging app(so,this means they can have more than 1 im clients in 1 messaging app).
Feel so sorry to HP webos,always being copied by others,even the UI design of playbook has been copied

Marvin_S said:
First of all the integration of IM is quite nice but I wish it was kept seperate from SMS conversations since these are to the majority of people still different than IMs and used on different devices or apps. I dont want to continue a conversation automatically on a different app or something. This will be very annoying to the other user.
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Threading will be the beginning of the end for SMS IMNSHO. Most people still use SMS because it's what they know and are used to.
My wife is a great example, she keeps sending me SMSes while I'm out because that's what she's used to. Even though I've had email (and to some extent IM) on my phones since forever. With a "messaging hub" it takes all the guesswork out of the equation - she'll write the message as she normally does and the phone will decide whether it should deliver via FB, Messenger, Skype or SMS.
Now, if you don't want to continue the conversation if the user has moved to a different device you don't have to. The phone will tell you how the message was sent as well as what services the recipient is currently logged on to.
Marvin_S said:
to me an sms is still something every user has always with him her, like when u send somebody an address or something it should be on their phones and not deliverd trough IM and its annoying having to switch first.
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This just proves my point - you're used to SMS. And again, you can choose whether to send as SMS or IM.
Personally I find this feature great. Two things should be done to make it even better though;
1. Implement a industry-wide protocol so it doesn't matter if you're on a crackberry, iphone or windows phone. Sure, Skype and Messenger goes a long way towards achieving this but there are still people who use smaller IM services only.
2. Allow third-party apps to hook in to the messaging hub - there's a few apps out there today that are not chat apps as such but still implement messaging. Being able to receive (and reply to) these messages from the same place would be great. It would also make it easier for other IM services to integrate with the OS.
dkp1977 said:
Although I agree that getting notifications for all those messages shown on the SMS tile would be kind of overwhelming.
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But why? Are you less likely to want to read a message coming in thru Messenger than one delivered via SMS? I for one don't care how my messages are delivered, I just want to be notified. It's a bit like having three post boxes outside your house - one for deliveries by DHL only, another for Deutsche Post and a third for everyone else - i.e. pointless

I really like this new feature as well. I am confident that any replies you send to someone will use the same service they used to "text" you, unless you choose to change it. People on non-WP7 phones won't suddenly need to be jumping all over the place.
On the other hand, when other people send you messages from multiple sources (SMS, FB, WLM, etc), you will be able to get all of the messages in one convenient place. I like that.

A capable dialer / contacts app needed!! Please help!

Hello,
I am desperately looking for a dialer / contacts app, which has the following features:
- Display the Names of contacts, TOGETHER with their phone numbers.
- Provide a detailed call summary (time of outgoing calls / incoming calls, all calls, SMS counter!)
- Has the ability to allow calls and SMS messages ONLY for certain contacts, so that only a few people can disturb me while I'm sleeping.
I don't care if this will be a paid or a free app.
I'm new to Android, my previous phone had WM 6.1 and I'm really DESPERATE how poor the contacts and dialer of Android are!!! I don't need a 4.3" screen to see the names of my contacts as HUGE banners, but to see as much info as possible on the screen (like the phone numbers of my contacts!!) Nokia had this in 1998 !!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks a lot for all your replies and I apologize if I have posted this in the wrong thread.

i don't know if this will do all that your asking but ex dialer is really good, my friend likes go dialer/contacts. i hope this helps.

Hello,
thank you VERY MUCH for your reply!! I'll give your recommendation a try!!
Meanwhile, I have tested several application and Rocket Dialer is the closest one to my expectations.
I'm using just the contacts app. For dialing/keypad, the original app is OK, I found out that it has at
least counters for outgoing and incoming calls, no SMS counter though.
For blocking calls, I've downloaded Call Blocker, which has a whitelist, this is all I needed. I can put
2 numbers on the white list and disable all other incoming calls.
Thanks again!

Hello,
I've checked this ex Dialer and it's really potatic... Again ONLY names of the contacts and no option to change this.
There is also another program - DW Contacts. This is really a high-end app with a lot of options and highly customizable. I didn't find a way to display all the letters on one side of the screen for faster index search, as Rocket Dialer has it.
So, for me, Rocket Dialer is OK.

Try "Dialer One" by Yermek Zhumagulov. It displays "contacts, TOGETHER with their phone numbers", the way you want. You can have different colors for the contact and the phone nos. Seleting two stand-out colors, I found it very easy to read them against the dark background (selectable). Pretty cool and very fast. I'd been trying many dialers and uninstalled all of them after spending half-an-hour with this one.

Thanks a lot! I have looked at the screenshots on google play. It would do, but I prefer Rocket Dialer. It has many amazing options, together with the black list Thanks anyway! Now I'm searching for a task manager to be able to list all running processes and kill them

Apps that edit incoming SMS based on keyword?

Hi, so basically this is my issue - I have a huge, huge pet-peeve over text speech (lol particularly). I have a couple of friends who use it excessively and I guess that is the trend these days, like the teen who got arrested over posting to facebook, "Got a dui and hit a car, lol!"
I'd like an app that could edit any incoming texts and just delete the lol (or any other keyword, or replace it, etc) so I never have to see it.
I did find one app called SMS Corrector, but the free version was limited and did not seem to work correctly on my device.
Are there any other apps that could do this?

[APP][MOD] LightFlowLITE Sms off only when read

Hey fellow xda-ers!
I love and use the LightFlowLITE app from rageconsulting found on the Google Play store, i absolutely love it!
However, if i were to receive more than one SMS, i would reply to the one SMS but not the other, my notification light would turn off. So i modded the apk to check if ALL the SMS are read before turning off the light.
i have tested this with GO SMS and it works perfectly. I do use the Accessibility service option, as if i don't it won't shut off my light. This being said, it should work with Stock SMS apps. If not, just reply with the SMS app you are using, ROM, and device information and i will see what i can do. Thanks everyone!

elesbb said:
Hey fellow xda-ers!
I love and use the LightFlowLITE app from rageconsulting found on the Google Play store, i absolutely love it!
However, if i were to receive more than one SMS, i would reply to the one SMS but not the other, my notification light would turn off. So i modded the apk to check if ALL the SMS are read before turning off the light.
i have tested this with GO SMS and it works perfectly. I do use the Accessibility service option, as if i don't it won't shut off my light. This being said, it should work with Stock SMS apps. If not, just reply with the SMS app you are using, ROM, and device information and i will see what i can do. Thanks everyone!
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I do plan to add this into the main app (really old versions v1.x actually did this, but it went with contact specific notifications to being based on what was viewed instead of what was read as many people leave conversations as unread and got confused to why it wouldn't clear.

andrewpmoore said:
I do plan to add this into the main app (really old versions v1.x actually did this, but it went with contact specific notifications to being based on what was viewed instead of what was read as many people leave conversations as unread and got confused to why it wouldn't clear.
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Thanks for planning on adding it! Really love this, keeps me from forgetting to reply. And im not sure what you mean by "people leave conversations as unread" if you open the conversation, it marks the message as read.. and by default, i think if you have an unread SMS it still keeps the LED on. Anyway, can't wait to see the update!

[Q] Android App Request: SMS Auto-Archiver

Hello XDA community!
First, I am uncertain if I have the correct forum for this; I was debating posting it under Android Apps but it gave the appearance of being a place to get applications that have been developed, not to request for a particular app to exist. If it needs to be moved, please let me know.
Here is the problem: I've got 20,000 text messages on my phone. This is intentional. As ridiculous as it sounds to have that many text messages, I've found it to be a life saver. In one case, I saved an address from a few months ago that enabled me to bring comfort to a friend in need. In another instance, I was able to clear a dispute between my friend and my employer. Still other cases are simply nostalgic, and I know of other people who have used SMS threads as evidence in court proceedings. There is utility in keeping as many text messages as possible at hand.
The problem is that, once this many texts are on a phone, the messaging app slows down quite noticeably. Additionally, restoring from a Titanium Backup or similar can take nearly an hour to write the database back into memory. Having the texts is wonderful, but having them resident along with more recent discussions causes undesirable consequences.
What I'm looking for is an app that will copy messages to an archive and then delete them. For example, if I have 200 messages between myself and Alan, and he texts me again, I'd like message 201 to be archived and deleted. However, if Bill and I are only at message 28, that can grow without archiving until I hit 200, at which point *it* starts getting archived. Ideally I'd like this to happen in real time, but if it happened hourly or daily I can certainly deal.
The two ways I've kinda found to do this were either to make daily backups with MyBackup Pro or similar, or make them on my computer using MyPhone Explorer. MBP is nice because it keeps it on the phone, but one of the core functions I'm looking for is to be able to browse the archive as if it were a regular set of text messages - still threaded, time-stamped, and categorized by sender - just not in the regular SMS database. With MBP, it makes the messy situation of having to restore messages until you find it, which gets very difficult after more than a few weeks. MyPhone Explorer is a better tool for this and it can be searched, but it does require my laptop to do it, which is a bit challenging as synchronization has to be performed manually.
I've tried most of the add-in applications to address this; neither Go SMS Pro nor HandCent nor Fusion nor Chomp nor Textra provide this functionality.
Yes, I'm willing to pay for an application that will allow for this, so if anyone either knows of a program that can do what I'm asking or feels like writing one, please let me know.
I appreciate your time and consideration in this matter.
Joey

I have an App Request too
An On-Screen Floating Object-Oriented Toolbar, with Back, Home, Menu, & Directional keys, + additional keys depending on active screen or current app
including a 'cycle-through elements' button then hit enter on the one you want to activate
things that can be done with your thumb from one small location.
then tap & hold contracts it into a smaller set of buttons
and you can select the number of buttons & their default positions for both the expanded state and the compacted state.
so it could be used to navigate around programs, select different elements, or used as a game controller, or keypad enhancement, or enhanced navigation etc