[Q] Bootloader Unlock Restrictions - Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Im considering getting this phone coming from a xperia T. On my xperia T I couldn't unlock the bootloader as it had been locked by the network and only phones that came factory unlocked could have their bootloader unlocked. Is there anything like that on this phone, as in if I buy this phone with a simlock (Meteor - Ireland) is there any chance that I wont be able to unlock the bootloader and therefore be stuck on stock based roms forever?

The website can refuse to offer unlock codes to some phones. If it's carrier locked, it may. Also it voids your warranty with Motorola even if it allows it, but you probably knew that.
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Yes I faced the same issue but there is a way workaround you can find it on the internet.
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CustomROM in a unlock SIM Captivate

Hello,
I bought a Captivate in USA, the cell works fine in my country (Chile). I want to install a customrom, but I don't know if it's possible considerating the problem of the Sim.
I appreciated if you help me
Thanks
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Hi, i bought a factory unlocked captivate from USA and never had a problem with custom roms. The sim never got relocked and i had flash over 20 roms on my phone. And i live in Argentina, without any access to an AT&T sim.
Though i would suggest, that you try to get your unlock code written down somewhere before you do custom roms, specially if you did not buy it factory unlocked. There is an app that gets the unlock code for you, I can't recall its name. Some of the phones get relocked after going back to stock; though I'm not sure if it is because they where manually unlocked instead of factory unlocked. What I do know is that when i tried to get my unlock code it wasn't anywhere, so I started flashing the phone hoping it didn't get sim locked.
If you don't get the code, flash and get sim locked there are several posts that explain how to unlock your phone. Those and the "universal sim unlock" gave me some peace of mind at the time.
Thanks!
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Back up your efs directory. It is possible to relock and be stuck if you don't. There is no factory unlock captivate. All are att and have to be unlocked via code.
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[Q] If I relock the bootloader of my Moto G, will my warranty be still void?

I have the Moto G Dual SIM XT-1033 and I want to unlock the bootloader to give full access to security app Cerberus. If my phn gets some hardware issues and i relock the bootloader again, would the Service Center guys be able to recognise it?
If yes, is there a way to sneak it?
Thanks in advance.
They will be able to make out that the BL is relocked.
You could try your luck. YMMV
You can try..... 9 times out of 10 they would not pay attention.... I have heard of people availing warranty even with an unlocked bootloader.... Though There are ways to determine wether your bootloader has been relocked..... You can always try your luck. Make sure to unroot ur phone before giving it to the service center though.....
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Fastboot mode will tell a trained eye that it's been relocked.
Status:
0 - locked, untouched
3 - unlocked
2 - locked, has been previously unlocked
The boot logo will also say that its been unlocked, but I'll leave taking care of that part as an exercise to you.

[Q] Bootloader unlock impossible?

Hi guys, my new Z3 has just arrived today and I am looking to remove the bloat. I went to the Sony site to unlock my bootloader but aparently it cannot be unlocked (using service menu to check). I am new to Sony products, does this mean I will never be able to unlock my bootloader? Is this caused by a hardware difference?
Thanks
damonsmith666 said:
Hi guys, my new Z3 has just arrived today and I am looking to remove the bloat. I went to the Sony site to unlock my bootloader but aparently it cannot be unlocked (using service menu to check). I am new to Sony products, does this mean I will never be able to unlock my bootloader? Is this caused by a hardware difference?
Thanks
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Plenty about this on the forums already.
If service menu says "bootloader unlock allowed: no"
You can't do anything.
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My Z3 is D6653 android 4.4.4 build 23.0.A.2.108
i have unlock boot b4.. after than i was lock it back to restore back original ...but now i wan unlock back it not working d
just show me the error have rooted is that only can unlock one time???after lock back its not working any more??
Can someone clearify to me what i lose or what dont work if i unlock my bootloader and root my Z3... Some camera elements dont work? I lose TA and DRM things? What else? Now i have rooted Note 4 without losing anything (okay, Knox but i dont even need it) but i havent never unlock Sony Xperia Devices and i can't live without root.

Rooting Moto G LTE (XT1045) without unlocking Bootloader?

I would like to keep my limited Motorola warranty. So I don't want to unlock the bootloader.... I just want root for basic things. But rooting this phone seems twice as difficult than my Galaxy S5.
I've searched around and found temp root methods. But no permanent ones.
I wouldn't mind unlocking the bootloader if it could be locked again and Motorola wouldn't know.
So I could use some help/guidance.
Thanks
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xmguy said:
I would like to keep my limited Motorola warranty. So I don't want to unlock the bootloader.... I just want root for basic things. But rooting this phone seems twice as difficult than my Galaxy S5.
I've searched around and found temp root methods. But no permanent ones.
I wouldn't mind unlocking the bootloader if it could be locked again and Motorola wouldn't know.
So I could use some help/guidance.
Thanks
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Sorry bro, when you wish to unlock the boot loader, you send your device id to Motorola, so even if you relock the bootloader, they'll still have it in their records....
To get permanent root, the only current method is through unlocking the bootloader to be allowed to flash root.
Cheers
I used to worry about warranty too.
Now I just don't care anymore, and I've never regretted unlocking, on some 25+ test devices now.
If the device was returned to a store, I don't think they'll check Moto's database.
If I was worried about a bootup warning, and I didn't feel there were any moral issues (device is broken already anyway), I would just brick the phone. They can recover from that at the service centre anyway.
I DID return a phone to a store once which would not boot at all. They FREAKED out because they said they needed to boot it to see a number. Maybe they were just looking for tamper evidence, I don't know.
Anyway, that's 40 minutes of my life (plus the drive) I'll never get back, because they could not follow the normal return procedures.
And in the end they had to accept the return of course. You'd think they must have had SOME returns of completely dead phones before...

Unlock Bootloader with unlock allowed says NO

Just got mine today and it looks like the value is NO even I have allowed OEM unlock in developer options. A quick search showed if the value is no, you will never be able to unlock.
A very bad news for me. A few questions:
1. is that really not possible to unlock it? Who shall I contact? Sony or Carrier?
2. Can I root with locked Bootloader? And flash TWRP and ROMs?
Thanks
Kan
No, there is no way to root or unlock your bootloader if it reads 'No' on 'bootloader unlock allowed?'
seanwuk said:
Just got mine today and it looks like the value is NO even I have allowed OEM unlock in developer options. A quick search showed if the value is no, you will never be able to unlock.
A very bad news for me. A few questions:
1. is that really not possible to unlock it? Who shall I contact? Sony or Carrier?
2. Can I root with locked Bootloader? And flash TWRP and ROMs?
Thanks
Kan
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I would RMA the device if it's not unlockable.
Unless u don't want to modify anything ever.
Did u got it branded from your network provider?
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langeveld024 said:
I would RMA the device if it's not unlockable.
Unless u don't want to modify anything ever.
Did u got it branded from your network provider?
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RMA means what, return? I got this from an individual, no way to return but to resell.
The carrier is Bell, a Canadian carrier. I don't see their logo on the phone.
DannyCanuck said:
No, there is no way to root or unlock your bootloader if it reads 'No' on 'bootloader unlock allowed?'
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I had lots of devices before. Most of them allow root with unlock bootloader. Sony is an exception?
seanwuk said:
I had lots of devices before. Most of them allow root with unlock bootloader. Sony is an exception?
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Yes it is.
On older Z series it was possible to root on stock kernel and therefore Unlocking bootloader wasn't required for rooting.
Since Z5, they implement Sony RIC and DM-VERITY, which prevents modification to system and therefore root.
To root, we need a kernel supporting root inside the boot image.
We can't flash any kernel other than stock (signed by Sony) on locked bootloader.
seanwuk said:
RMA means what, return? I got this from an individual, no way to return but to resell.
The carrier is Bell, a Canadian carrier. I don't see their logo on the phone.
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That's a bumm.
RMA means sending phone back and receive the money in return.
Did the seller told u it's carrierlocked phone?
Mostly on carrier locked phones there's no sticker or logo from the carrier visible on the outside.
U can try to contact Bell and explain them what's the problem. In some cases a carrier can unlock it for u. (they might charge a little fee for it)
Good luck!
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seanwuk said:
RMA means what, return? I got this from an individual, no way to return but to resell.
The carrier is Bell, a Canadian carrier. I don't see their logo on the phone.
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If you've got the Bell Z5 then you're in the same boat as myself. No way to unlock the bootloader, thus no way to root, meaning I can have ZERO fun with this device. I even paid Bell for a SIM Unlock thinking it might trigger the bootloader unlock option to change to 'Yes' Allowed, but no such luck.
DannyCanuck said:
If you've got the Bell Z5 then you're in the same boat as myself. No way to unlock the bootloader, thus no way to root, meaning I can have ZERO fun with this device. I even paid Bell for a SIM Unlock thinking it might trigger the bootloader unlock option to change to 'Yes' Allowed, but no such luck.
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So I guess you have contacted Bell for unlocking it but no success? Even we would like to pay a fee for it?
langeveld024 said:
Yes it is.
On older Z series it was possible to root on stock kernel and therefore Unlocking bootloader wasn't required for rooting.
Since Z5, they implement Sony RIC and DM-VERITY, which prevents modification to system and therefore root.
To root, we need a kernel supporting root inside the boot image.
We can't flash any kernel other than stock (signed by Sony) on locked bootloader.
That's a bumm.
RMA means sending phone back and receive the money in return.
Did the seller told u it's carrierlocked phone?
Mostly on carrier locked phones there's no sticker or logo from the carrier visible on the outside.
U can try to contact Bell and explain them what's the problem. In some cases a carrier can unlock it for u. (they might charge a little fee for it)
Good luck!
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Thanks for sharing with me. You are very knowledgeable. I bought from a guy who bought from Bell. I doubt Bell will actually support my request. I will try to use it for a bit and resell if I cannot live without root. I have been using root devices since HTC G1.
All phones from carriers usually have locked bootloaders, except for nexus devices. This is why you never buy from a carrier if you want custom roms.
seanwuk said:
Thanks for sharing with me. You are very knowledgeable. I bought from a guy who bought from Bell. I doubt Bell will actually support my request. I will try to use it for a bit and resell if I cannot live without root. I have been using root devices since HTC G1.
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It's worth trying, just see how they react
I got pretty used to root too, since my first Android a galaxy S i9000 lol
Though, when I bought this phone (my second Sony) I decided to use it without root too and in the beginning it was a bit of a struggle but later I didn't miss it at all.
I only unlocked my bootloader after a few months, just to use another kernel.
You can disable most (if not all) bloatware via settings.
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langeveld024 said:
It's worth trying, just see how they react
I got pretty used to root too, since my first Android a galaxy S i9000 lol
Though, when I bought this phone (my second Sony) I decided to use it without root too and in the beginning it was a bit of a struggle but later I didn't miss it at all.
I only unlocked my bootloader after a few months, just to use another kernel.
You can disable most (if not all) bloatware via settings.
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I think Android 6 did a good job controlling app permissions. But thats the thing as you mentioned, you cannot try variety of optimizations from community. sigh.
My boootloader unlock status is also NO.
Is there anyway to flash Androplus kernel with own recovery via fastboot flashtool to get recovery and than trough him install super su zip and with that way root Z5?
Allek84 said:
My boootloader unlock status is also NO.
Is there anyway to flash Androplus kernel with own recovery via fastboot flashtool to get recovery and than trough him install super su zip and with that way root Z5?
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If this or anything simmilar possible?
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Allek84 said:
If this or anything simmilar possible?
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Unfortunately not only way is change the device to one that says Bootloader unlock allowed YES the only carrier/network I know of that supply devices with unlockable Bootloaders for all there handsets whether payg or contract is three UK+Ireland as they only supply devices that are sim free network unlocked devices like what you would get from Sony store one of the main reasons I'm with them

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