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Hi!
I hope some someone can explain me:
Why is it obviously so difficult (or not possible?) to root the XT925 Razr HD without downgrade to ICS if you are already on JellyBean? I read a lot of things and there everytime the poeple wrote about the VoodooKeeper thing and the downgrade.
wemsinho said:
Hi!
I hope some someone can explain me:
Why is it obviously so difficult (or not possible?) to root the XT925 Razr HD without downgrade to ICS if you are already on JellyBean? I read a lot of things and there everytime the poeple wrote about the VoodooKeeper thing and the downgrade.
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I am also quite interested in this this! In particular, as going back ICS will require that i unlock the bootlock and loose the warranty (at least that is my understanding). I do not wish to sacrafice warranty "just" to get root, something that was very easily done on my old xperia (with or without locked bootlock)
I still love my razr hd (xt925) for lots of other reasons though!
You don't have to unlock or loose warranty to go back to ICS. You do however have to root.
IMO, their is not JB exploit so far because it is so easy to roll back to ICS root.... then use root keeper to hold root thru the update. So no real reason for anyone to work on a root exploit yet. Takes maybe 10-15 minutes if that.
clintonroche said:
You don't have to unlock or loose warranty to go back to ICS. You do however have to root.
IMO, their is not JB exploit so far because it is so easy to roll back to ICS root.... then use root keeper to hold root thru the update. So no real reason for anyone to work on a root exploit yet. Takes maybe 10-15 minutes if that.
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I just got a XT295 from germany just to fix the damned ril issues ive been having in my root call management apps. But it was running 4.1.2 out of the box, with a locked boot.
Am i right in assuming theres a way to root it with that RSDLite tool? I have never owned a moto device, so know nothing about this tool or how it works with a locked bootloader.
clintonroche said:
You don't have to unlock or loose warranty to go back to ICS. You do however have to root.
IMO, their is not JB exploit so far because it is so easy to roll back to ICS root.... then use root keeper to hold root thru the update. So no real reason for anyone to work on a root exploit yet. Takes maybe 10-15 minutes if that.
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In don't really understand your statement. If you're unrooted on JB, in order to root you definitely have to rollback to ICS... and this requires an unlocked bootloader.
So if you're unrooted, with a locked bootloader, on JB, there is no way you can rollback to ICS if you don't wish to void your warranty by unlocking the bootloader ?? (once you're on ICS, root/voodo/ota upgrade is good to go)
Or maybe I have missed something and there is a way to downgrade to ICS with a locked bootloader ??? If so, i'd be *very* interested...
There is a way to downgrade with locked bootloader. Use Matt's tool.
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I've tried already, but it doesn't work. T my understanding (and after reading a bit the thread dedicated to Matt's tool) I'd say you must have an unlocked BL to downgrade...
CoinCoin88 said:
I've tried already, but it doesn't work. T my understanding (and after reading a bit the thread dedicated to Matt's tool) I'd say you must have an unlocked BL to downgrade...
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It is definitely not necessary on the 926 Consumer Edition as of course it is not currently possible to unlock the BL at this time. It may be different on the 925, but u doubt it.
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Regardless of what you do your gonna void your warranty no matter what,if its a simple root or flash anything your voiding it,and you don't need to have an unlocked bootloader to downgrade back to ics
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It is definitely not necessary on the 926 Consumer Edition as of course it is not currently possible to unlock the BL at this time. It may be different on the 925, but u doubt it.
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Ok, so p-maybe the problem is not the locked BL... but the fact that probably many people here aren't using the Verizon 925 but the "international" XT-925 model (which is disclamed as "not supported" in Matt's tool's thread).
I'd definitely be willing to give it a try again to downgrade it, but IIRC the last time I tried, option 1 started well then ended up with some errors (can't actually remember what was written). Took like 5 minutes, a bunch of errors here and there on prompt, rebooted the phone, and was still on 4.1.1.
So either this is the "international XT-925 not supported thing", or there's somethign I did wrong (like, extracting a bug report with the key combination or i-don't-now-what-else). Just to be sure we're on the same page, are we all talking about the international XT-925 ? Or is this where we are misunderstanding ??
I'm using xt926 maxx and downgrade many time with no trouble,
Hope my information is helpful ^^
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unlocked or rooted?
HELP!
I have gone around with a motorola RAZR M only to be told by motorola that it couldn't be rooted. I have several posts in the general discussions area of the RAZR M. Motorola told me that I HAD to have a developer edition phone to unlock the bootloader. I did that. They told me that with the bootloader unlocked it would be considered rooted. That isn't true. I think I was misled or maybe uninformed. The phone that I got from them is a XT926dev. I voided the warranty, unlocked the bootloader and nothing has really changed. All the root dependent apps say it isn't rooted.
What am I not doing that completes the root? I have root checker and it's sole requirement for root appears to be whether or not superuser and su.binary are installed in the root sectors. Can anybody lead me into the light? I'm scared of the dark.
JAB©
jabeth407 said:
HELP!
I have gone around with a motorola RAZR M only to be told by motorola that it couldn't be rooted. I have several posts in the general discussions area of the RAZR M. Motorola told me that I HAD to have a developer edition phone to unlock the bootloader. I did that. They told me that with the bootloader unlocked it would be considered rooted. That isn't true. I think I was misled or maybe uninformed. The phone that I got from them is a XT926dev. I voided the warranty, unlocked the bootloader and nothing has really changed. All the root dependent apps say it isn't rooted.
What am I not doing that completes the root? I have root checker and it's sole requirement for root appears to be whether or not superuser and su.binary are installed in the root sectors. Can anybody lead me into the light? I'm scared of the dark.
JAB©
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You maybe have unlocked the Bootloader, but that does not necessary means, you are rooted.
First think on which Firmware is you XT926, is it on 4.0.4 or is it on 4.1.2
If you are on 4.0.4, read this Thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943851
If you are on 4.1.2 and your bootloader really is unlocked, read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118483
If you are on 4.1.2 and your phone is VERIZON xt926 and your bootloader is locked:
Try Matts Tool to downgrade. Then do the first step i mentioned
Next time please inform yourself about the things you want to do. This should be the first thing. If you dont know the difference between an unlocked bootloader and root access, you should propably not try to mess with these kind of things.
Maybe Motorola Service Workers aren't the right people to ask about stuff like that...
But well hope i helped you out of the dark, greetz Esok
If you have the XT925 RAZR HD and don't want to downgrade, for now you have to unlock your BL, flash CWM and flash SuperSU through CWM (you can find the flashable zip on the chainfire.eu). Or you could wait for an exploit to come.
Sent from my XT925
saloums7 said:
If you have the XT925 RAZR HD and don't want to downgrade, for now you have to unlock your BL, flash CWM and flash SuperSU through CWM (you can find the flashable zip on the chainfire.eu). Or you could wait for an exploit to come.
Sent from my XT925
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And we're back to this: is it actually possible to downgrade a XT925 with Matt's tool ?????
I downgraded straight with RSD... but my BL is unlocked don't know if it makes a difference
Sent from my XT925
CoinCoin88 said:
And we're back to this: is it actually possible to downgrade a XT925 with Matt's tool ?????
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No. Matt's tool is intended for the XT926 only.
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esok44 said:
You maybe have unlocked the Bootloader, but that does not necessary means, you are rooted.
First think on which Firmware is you XT926, is it on 4.0.4 or is it on 4.1.2
If you are on 4.0.4, read this Thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943851
If you are on 4.1.2 and your bootloader really is unlocked, read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118483
If you are on 4.1.2 and your phone is VERIZON xt926 and your bootloader is locked:
Try Matts Tool to downgrade. Then do the first step i mentioned
Next time please inform yourself about the things you want to do. This should be the first thing. If you dont know the difference between an unlocked bootloader and root access, you should propably not try to mess with these kind of things.
Maybe Motorola Service Workers aren't the right people to ask about stuff like that...
But well hope i helped you out of the dark, greetz Esok
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Thanks for the links, I'll try it. I tried to get information about what I'm doing from the manufacturer. You can see where that has gotten me. I have tried others too. It is a simple thing to share & part with knowledge. I still haven't gotten anybody to set me straight on any differences between unlocked boot & root. So, this is my attempt at informing myself.
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esok44 said:
First think on which Firmware is you XT926, is it on 4.0.4 or is it on 4.1.2
But well hope i helped you out of the dark, greetz Esok
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Mine is 4.1.1, as usual I have fallen between the cracks!
jabeth407 said:
Thanks for the links, I'll try it. I tried to get information about what I'm doing from the manufacturer. You can see where that has gotten me. I have tried others too. It is a simple thing to share & part with knowledge. I still haven't gotten anybody to set me straight on any differences between unlocked boot & root. So, this is my attempt at informing myself.
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Mine is 4.1.1, as usual I have fallen between the cracks!
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Well, then try the method, using matts tool to downgrade and then using the normal 4.0.4 method to root
Should be the easiest method
before downgrading, make sure that you save all relevant things, like pictures, etc on your external sd-card, they will get lost with the downgrade, i think
Good luck Esok
esok44 said:
You maybe have unlocked the Bootloader, but that does not necessary means, you are rooted.
Next time please inform yourself about the things you want to do. This should be the first thing. If you dont know the difference between an unlocked bootloader and root access, you should propably not try to mess with these kind of things.
Maybe Motorola Service Workers aren't the right people to ask about stuff like that...
But well hope i helped you out of the dark, greetz Esok
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Hey man, I'm not totally useless. I know the bootloader is unlocked. I did manage to get that far. Give me a break, I'm used to my tandy 1000, cassette tape deck, b&w tv. Nice simple basic languages. Ha, ha, ha.
Hi guys...
so, i bought a Razr HD XT925 and it still didnt arrive, but till it happens i want to be ready to root the phone, so i can install titanium backup and erase some **** that will come like some google apps.
i've read some threads about rooting the phone and i realized that a lot of people talk about this "bootloader"
i had a galaxy s2 and i've never had to worry about this, but in the root threads of Razr HD i see people arguing about it...
i dont know if the phone will arrive with the last update(4.1.2), probably will cause its a long time this update has been out...so i have the following questions:
1) If the phone comes with whether 4.0.4 ICS or 4.1.2 JB, do i need to do something about Bootloader beore rooting it? if yes, what?
2) what's the best way to root? any link for a good thread?
i just dont want to get the phone and in the first day screw him up...
that's why i need to ask this.
thanks in advance
xubeiga said:
Hi guys...
so, i bought a Razr HD XT925 and it still didnt arrive, but till it happens i want to be ready to root the phone, so i can install titanium backup and erase some **** that will come like some google apps.
i've read some threads about rooting the phone and i realized that a lot of people talk about this "bootloader"
i had a galaxy s2 and i've never had to worry about this, but in the root threads of Razr HD i see people arguing about it...
i dont know if the phone will arrive with the last update(4.1.2), probably will cause its a long time this update has been out...so i have the following questions:
1) If the phone comes with whether 4.0.4 ICS or 4.1.2 JB, do i need to do something about Bootloader beore rooting it? if yes, what?
2) what's the best way to root? any link for a good thread?
i just dont want to get the phone and in the first day screw him up...
that's why i need to ask this.
thanks in advance
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When I bought my phone, it was on JellyBean. I used the Motorola instructions to unlock the bootloader (It seems to work in all Razr HD except the US / Verizon ones where you need to have the DEV edition).
Then I flashed recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1973904
And then installed SuperSU http://download.chainfire.eu/298/SuperSU/
pbosio said:
When I bought my phone, it was on JellyBean. I used the Motorola instructions to unlock the bootloader (It seems to work in all Razr HD except the US / Verizon ones where you need to have the DEV edition).
Then I flashed recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1973904
And then installed SuperSU http://download.chainfire.eu/298/SuperSU/
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thanks mate! i will sure try this in a few days.
so after doing these 3 steps, the device got Rooted and working perfectly?
I wonder why is it necessary to unlock this bootloader. why i didnt have to do it in the SGS II? maybe cause Samsung already let it unlocked?
i realized that when i unlock the bootloader i lose the cover by Motorola, so, is it possible to "lock" the bootloader again?
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i saw this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943851
this one doesnt say anything about unlocking, maybe the script does itself?
xubeiga said:
thanks mate! i will sure try this in a few days.
so after doing these 3 steps, the device got Rooted and working perfectly?
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Yes, I did that and have no problem (I did it like 4 month ago)
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I wonder why is it necessary to unlock this bootloader. why i didnt have to do it in the SGS II? maybe cause Samsung already let it unlocked?
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I don't know, every phone has it issues, I remember having to backup the radio and the EFS partition on my Samsung, I didn't have to do any of that on my motorola and with my LG was as easy as installing a script.
xubeiga said:
i realized that when i unlock the bootloader i lose the cover by Motorola, so, is it possible to "lock" the bootloader again?
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I don't think so...
xubeiga said:
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i saw this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943851
this one doesnt say anything about unlocking, maybe the script does itself?
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Yes, I remember that when I bought my phone I just root it without unlocking the bootlader (using the MotoChopper tool I think), I waited 6 month until warranty time was over and then I unlocked the bootloader
I'm not really sure of any of this, but i think that...
With locked bootloader you can't install custom ROMs and you will lose root if you OTA update your device (have in mind that there is currently there is no way to root KK in this device).
pbosio said:
Yes, I did that and have no problem (I did it like 4 month ago)
I don't know, every phone has it issues, I remember having to backup the radio and the EFS partition on my Samsung, I didn't have to do any of that on my motorola and with my LG was as easy as installing a script.
I don't think so...
Yes, I remember that when I bought my phone I just root it without unlocking the bootlader (using the MotoChopper tool I think), I waited 6 month until warranty time was over and then I unlocked the bootloader
I'm not really sure of any of this, but i think that...
With locked bootloader you can't install custom ROMs and you will lose root if you OTA update your device (have in mind that there is currently there is no way to root KK in this device).
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so, basically, it isnt necessary to unlock the bootloader to root the phone?
i really dont want to flash custom roms. not right now. i just want to root the phone so i can use Titanium Backup to uninstall some apps that i don't use, which will just waste my memory and battery!
edit: i just read that there are 2 programs. this motochopper and one called motopocalypse.
the motochopper is to root the phone and the other one is to unlock bootloader. and you can't unlock bootloader if your device isnt rooted.
so i can just use the motochopper, root it, and the device will be rooted and still working fine, without bootloader unlocked and i would still have the cover from Motorola? am i correct?
If you upgrade to Kitkat on a phone with a locked bootloader, then you will lose root. No way to carry it over the ota and there is no way to root it once you are on Kit Kat. This must be the 100th time this has been stated.
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iBolski said:
If you upgrade to Kitkat on a phone with a locked bootloader, then you will lose root. No way to carry it over the ota and there is no way to root it once you are on Kit Kat. This must be the 100th time this has been stated.
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well, as i said that i don't want to flash custom roms, this must not be a problem for me
but dully noted for the future!
here in brazil the official KK 4.4.2 is not released yet
xubeiga said:
so i can just use the motochopper, root it, and the device will be rooted and still working fine, without bootloader unlocked and i would still have the cover from Motorola? am i correct?
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Yes, that is correct, take in mind that probably you will still lose cover from Motorola if you root it, but you can unroot before taking your device to Motorola's service if you have any issue...
xubeiga said:
well, as i said that i don't want to flash custom roms, this must not be a problem for me
but dully noted for the future!
here in brazil the official KK 4.4.2 is not released yet
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Stupid me, I didn't read. You have an XT925 so you can "legally" unlock it, no exploit needed like it was with the XT926, so you should still have the ability to sideload root on Kit Kat, like those of us with unlocked XT926s. So, disregard my incoherent ramblings earlier! :silly:
pbosio said:
Yes, that is correct, take in mind that probably you will still lose cover from Motorola if you root it, but you can unroot before taking your device to Motorola's service if you have any issue...
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yes, that's exactly what i want and exactly what i'm thinking.
just root the device and dont mess with the bootloader, and if anything happens and i need the cover from Motorola, i can just unroot it!
thanks for all your answers. :victory:
iBolski said:
Stupid me, I didn't read. You have an XT925 so you can "legally" unlock it, no exploit needed like it was with the XT926, so you should still have the ability to sideload root on Kit Kat, like those of us with unlocked XT926s. So, disregard my incoherent ramblings earlier! :silly:
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no problems mate!!
even you understanding it wrong, i still learned a few with your answer :good:
thanks!
xubeiga said:
yes, that's exactly what i want and exactly what i'm thinking.
just root the device and dont mess with the bootloader, and if anything happens and i need the cover from Motorola, i can just unroot it!
thanks for all your answers. :victory:
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They can tell if you rooted it or not. When you start to boot up into stock recovery, you'll see a QE code on the Andy screen. A qe code of 0/0 means it's not rooted and it's never been rooted.
1/1 means it's currently rooted and it's been rooted before.
0/1 means it's currently not rooted but it's been rooted before.
At least, that's what has been guessed as to what the values mean, but definitely, if it's 0/0, then the phone has never been rooted before. Any values other than 0 to the left or right of the slash means the phone has been rooted before, which means you're warranty is voided.
So, they can tell when you've rooted it. And there's no known way of clearing those values out.
In any case, if you're going to root, you might as well unlock it as well because they can determine if it's been rooted anyways, which will void your warranty.
iBolski said:
If you upgrade to Kitkat on a phone with a locked bootloader, then you will lose root. No way to carry it over the ota and there is no way to root it once you are on Kit Kat. This must be the 100th time this has been stated.
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Forgive me if im asking something already answered. If you have a locked bootloader and on KitKat, is it possible to flash with sbf to an earlier software version, root, then just dont update? Or if the bootloader is locked does this mean that you cant flash anything at all? I only need root, probably like everyone else on KitKat. LoL. Just curious if theres a way to flash to an earlier version. How do you know if your bootloader is locked? Im not familiar with this version.
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Forgive me if im asking something already answered. If you have a locked bootloader and on KitKat, is it possible to flash with sbf to an earlier software version, root, then just dont update? Or if the bootloader is locked does this mean that you cant flash anything at all? I only need root, probably like everyone else on KitKat. LoL. Just curious if theres a way to flash to an earlier version. How do you know if your bootloader is locked? Im not familiar with this version.
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This should answer your question. It's earlier in this thread where I answered this question:
iBolski said:
If you upgrade to Kitkat on a phone with a locked bootloader, then you will lose root. No way to carry it over the ota and there is no way to root it once you are on Kit Kat. This must be the 100th time this has been stated.
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Once on KitKat, you are stuck. You cannot revert back to a previous version (you WILL brick your phone).
A little research goes a long way. This has been discussed to death since KitKat came out.
iBolski said:
This should answer your question. It's earlier in this thread where I answered this question:
Once on KitKat, you are stuck. You cannot revert back to a previous version (you WILL brick your phone).
A little research goes a long way. This has been discussed to death since KitKat came out.
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Thanks for the explanation, unfortunately "Reasearching" this is not possible when Tapatalk has a "Noted & Known issue" with its search function. Their support team is working diligently for a resolution. Maybe you didn't see my sig line indicating I was utilizing Tapatalk.
LOL. "Research does go along way if properly utilized".
Sent from my DROID X2 using Tapatalk 2
iBolski said:
They can tell if you rooted it or not. When you start to boot up into stock recovery, you'll see a QE code on the Andy screen. A qe code of 0/0 means it's not rooted and it's never been rooted.
1/1 means it's currently rooted and it's been rooted before.
0/1 means it's currently not rooted but it's been rooted before.
At least, that's what has been guessed as to what the values mean, but definitely, if it's 0/0, then the phone has never been rooted before. Any values other than 0 to the left or right of the slash means the phone has been rooted before, which means you're warranty is voided.
So, they can tell when you've rooted it. And there's no known way of clearing those values out.
In any case, if you're going to root, you might as well unlock it as well because they can determine if it's been rooted anyways, which will void your warranty.
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wow, that's unfortunate
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wow, that's unfortunate
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That's been going on since ICS, I believe. So, it's nothing new. I remember when the news came out about it a few years ago. I've seen it on my Droid X2, Droid RAZR MAXX and now on my RAZR HD.
I don't know if it's only on Motorola phones or all android phones. All my Android phones have been Motorola with the exception of my first Android phone, which was an LG Vortex.
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That's been going on since ICS, I believe. So, it's nothing new. I remember when the news came out about it a few years ago. I've seen it on my Droid X2, Droid RAZR MAXX and now on my RAZR HD.
I don't know if it's only on Motorola phones or all android phones. All my Android phones have been Motorola with the exception of my first Android phone, which was an LG Vortex.
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I've heard about it on some Samsung phones, and they go even farther and track how many times someone has flashed roms and such...Chainfire has some tools just for them. Look up Triangle Away.
yep, i had a Galaxy S2(which i dont have anymore cause i've been stolen), and in my first day with it, i rooted, flashed a custom rom, and then some months after, the usb connector stopped working properly. and the phone still had smth like 4 months of warranty...
i had to do a lot of things to reset it.
flash stock firmware with odin, then use this triangle away, then unroot, etc etc etc...well at least i could reset it and send to warranty without they knowing it
Okay, so a few days ago i bought a Verizon prepaid Moto G and am now using it on Tracfone. My goal is this: I am running 4.4..4 and i want to downgrade using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219 will it work? Then, can i root with pie root and use sunshine to unlock bootloader then get perm root? Even if i could downgrade, would my service still work? But either way, thanks ahead of time.
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Okay, so a few days ago i bought a Verizon prepaid Moto G and am now using it on Tracfone. My goal is this: I am running 4.4..4 and i want to downgrade using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219 will it work? Then, can i root with pie root and use sunshine to unlock bootloader then get perm root? Even if i could downgrade, would my service still work? But either way, thanks ahead of time.
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I'd also like to know this as I just bought a prepaid Verizon model too. But I also want to know how you are using it on Tracfone. I went to their website and it said that the MEID wasn't found in their system,
Well ok, I little off topic, but the phone needs to be used with Verizon prepaid for 6 months before activation with tracfone. If tracfone says I doesn't work, I doesn't. For me, I went on eBay and just asked people for the devices mied and checked it before I bought it. I bought mine for $60 US. Sorry, no way to get around the six months.
Sent from by rooted Nexus 7 2013 OR my Tracfone Moto G
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TheMotoman said:
Okay, so a few days ago i bought a Verizon prepaid Moto G and am now using it on Tracfone. My goal is this: I am running 4.4..4 and i want to downgrade using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219 will it work? Then, can i root with pie root and use sunshine to unlock bootloader then get perm root? Even if i could downgrade, would my service still work? But either way, thanks ahead of time.
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I am actually trying to get the exact same thing done. Funny thing though, when i tried flashing the 4.4.2, none of the sparsechunks would flash, something about the bootloader rejecting preflash validation. Anyways, I flashed all the other files, and only about half of which were successful, and then booted the phone. It was still 4.4.4 and would crash and have to reboot within 30 seconds of rebooting. Eventually after trying again and again to flash 4.4.2 i tried to resurrect my broken bootloop phone by flashing 4.4.4. Worked instantly, no failed flashes, back to stock. I am beginning to think the locked bootloader will not allow you to downgrade operating systems, just reflash to stock. If anyone else knows how to fix this, I would be very grateful
Well, I guess our Kitkat Moto Gs will never see root or Cynogenmod..... But, there is always lollipop We can Dream
Sent from by rooted Nexus 7 2013 OR my Tracfone Moto G
Jayrod215 said:
I am actually trying to get the exact same thing done. Funny thing though, when i tried flashing the 4.4.2, none of the sparsechunks would flash, something about the bootloader rejecting preflash validation. Anyways, I flashed all the other files, and only about half of which were successful, and then booted the phone. It was still 4.4.4 and would crash and have to reboot within 30 seconds of rebooting. Eventually after trying again and again to flash 4.4.2 i tried to resurrect my broken bootloop phone by flashing 4.4.4. Worked instantly, no failed flashes, back to stock. I am beginning to think the locked bootloader will not allow you to downgrade operating systems, just reflash to stock. If anyone else knows how to fix this, I would be very grateful
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I catch same thing and I totally agree with you
a small chance
with lollipop on the way it's possible that some dev may find a exploit moto phones are among the first to receive the update and there is a small chance we'll get lucky and 5.0.2 will have a opening somewhere but with my luck I'll accept the update and someone will figure out how to root 4.4.4
Before ranting at me for asking a question that was already answered, I know there is multiple threads of people asking how to do this.
So I've heard that there is an UNSAFE way of downgrading from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2 on a LOCKED bootloader. I'm willing to take the risk of trying the method for SCIENCE! If someone were to PM me the method of doing the downgrade, I will record what happens and report back.
I'm aware of the risks that come along with this. (Soft brick, hard brick), and I'm willing to take them.
Device:
Moto G XT1028 VZW
Just skip flashing bootloader (motoboot.img) and partition table (gpt.bin), it worked fine in my phone some time ago. Don't blame me if something bad happens to yours, you're the only responsible.
Did you do this with a locked bootloader on 4.4.4? And same device? (Confirming before attempting)
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Did you do this with a locked bootloader on 4.4.4? And same device? (Confirming before attempting)
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Nope, XT1032 unlocked.
Ah, well I have a locked bootloader on xt1028. Hence why I wanted to confirm first. (Updated op with info regarding locked bl)
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Ah, well I have a locked bootloader on xt1028. Hence why I wanted to confirm first. (Updated op with info regarding locked bl)
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I have this problem too. I deployed and my mother updated my phone. Thanks, mom.
The new bootloader won't allow older versions to be flashed. But you knew that already.
We're stuck unless an exploit is found. It's too bad, I was so excited to learn about SunShine working on 4.4.2.
If we had a temp root for 4.4.4 I'd test sunshine for y'all, even at the risk of my bootloader
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If we had a temp root for 4.4.4 I'd test sunshine for y'all, even at the risk of my bootloader
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You and I are both on the same boat, Same phone/carrier & same firmware.
I've been trying to get temp root as well to try out the sunshine apk but it seems
that information on this particular model is very scarce.
That's partly because it's (correct me if I'm wrong) just a rebranded Boost handset for Verizon, so it's not technically an actual variant.
Also the bootloader is like trying to move a 9001 pound rock with your body. It's not going anywhere.
Extosis said:
You and I are both on the same boat, Same phone/carrier & same firmware.
I've been trying to get temp root as well to try out the sunshine apk but it seems
that information on this particular model is very scarce.
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I am also on this boat:crying:
Please get off my boat. I'm getting claustrophobic
Ok, here's my story so far:
The first day that I got this phone, approximately two weeks ago, I rooted my phone, softbricked it, then flashed the KDZ and rooted again (all in 9 long hours of frustration and tears). Now I'm using the phone, everything is stable, and I'm having no problems.
Anyways, at this point, unlocking my bootloader is a must. All I want is to do that so I can flash TWRP and install Xposed framework.
Does anyone know of a way to unlock the bootloader on this phone? I've been told that you really can't, but I know that someone out there knows of a way. If not, I plan on finding away to do it myself.
I would like to know know well. I originally thought that rooting it unlocked the bootloader but I was wrong lol. Learning slowly but surely. I am trying to get xposed. So having a custom recovery would make that a lot easier. I am using the Cricket Variant LG Stylo H634 Lollipop 5.1.1
iHeaRTShaRK said:
I would like to know know well. I originally thought that rooting it unlocked the bootloader but I was wrong lol. Learning slowly but surely. I am trying to get xposed. So having a custom recovery would make that a lot easier. I am using the Cricket Variant LG Stylo H634 Lollipop 5.1.1
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Well, it looks like we're running the same firmware on the same device, so maybe we can figure something out.
I think I may be able to make a custom recovery by extracting the stock recovery partition, building a custom recovery from that image, then signing it with the same signature used to sign the original image. Maybe this will work. Honestly, I'm not entirely sure, but you never know.
I'll contact a few developers to see if there's any way we can breathe life into this phone.
Sent from my LG-H634 using XDA Labs