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Why do you need to set up a recovery or cwm for your phone after it's been rooted?
Almost all of the Kernels and ROM's are installed/Flashed through the Clock Work Custom Recovery. Plus you can use it to do Nandroid backups and clear cache and so on. It's really a great utility to have.
Ok thanks. I'm just really nervous about trying to CwM my phone again cause last week I had to get a new phone cause I did something wrong.
Do you think you could possibly give me step by step instructions on how to properly recover my phone using CwM? I'm not the brightest person and Im kinda clueless with all of this stuff.
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Will this do the trick?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=997359
If I do this is my phone ready?
ketchkev000 said:
Ok thanks. I'm just really nervous about trying to CwM my phone again cause last week I had to get a new phone cause I did something wrong.
Do you think you could possibly give me step by step instructions on how to properly recover my phone using CwM? I'm not the brightest person and Im kinda clueless with all of this stuff.
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Will this do the trick?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=997359
If I do this is my phone ready?
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First of all, most people around here aren't experts when they begin this process - but they definitely AT LEAST have a clue - so I suggest you take some time doing research before you even attempt any of these things. If you're not wanting to do so, try to find someone that you know that has done some modding and see if they can help you. Our references around here are pretty clear and cover all bases, so there shouldn't be too many questions to ask after reading around.
To answer your question, that thread you linked has an odin package that includes a custom recovery (clockworkmod) along with a complete 2.2 stock image, so it would be a good place to start.
Do you need to use cwm if you just wanna use apps that require your phone to be rooted? Sorry for all of the questions.
CWM and Rooting aren't really connected. Some background info, from what I've learned thus far:
Rooting just changes a couple files in the OS portion of Android to allow you to have Superuser access (like Administrator on a Windows machine). All of that goes on in the OS partition.
CWM Recovery, its full, proper name, is a custom Recovery. The default recovery allows just a factory reset for the most part. CWM Recovery allows that, but also allows many more options; clearing user/Dalvik cache, performing Nandroid backups and restores, enabling or disabling Voodoo (note that you need to have a separate Voodoo-compatible kernel installed), flashing things from ZIP files on your SD card, and so on.
The short answer then is no, you don't even need to think about CWM if all you want to do is root your phone and use apps that require it to be rooted.
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Do you need to use cwm if you just wanna use apps that require your phone to be rooted? Sorry for all of the questions.
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If you are just wanting to use apps that require root access then no you don't have to use CWM. You need CWM if you are going to flash a kernel or ROM or any other Mod for your phone. Rooting and CWM are two different things. As long as your phone is rooted, then you shouldn't have trouble using apps that reuire root access, with or without CWM on your phone. At least I didn't when I first began doing this stuff. Granted Im still a noob to an extent but my phone was rooted for a long time before I ever installed CWM and I never had an issue with the root apps
Edit: didnt' mean to be redundant. Chromewolf posted while I was typing mine
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I think its full, proper name would be ClockworkMod Recovery
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Damnit! I needed to have found someone else I could have bet money on that not only would I get corrected on that, but that it would be by add. No money for me. XD
But seriously, while add is correct on the matter of semantics, the point I was trying to make is that CWM is just a custom Recovery (which I've sort of taken to needlessly capitalizing lately to emphasize the difference a bit more), as opposed to an app or something.
Brief off-topic: A present for you add, especially if you're a gamer. I hope you lol at it, I know I always do (and I'm the *functional* rules lawyer of the group, LOL), and I'm not the one who wears it!
http://www.warehouse23.com/item.html?id=OWD45013-2XL
I feel monumentally stupid asking this question, but I've run out of options. I have tried searching first, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to phrase the search and most of the search results are for non-Atrix 2 phones, so I don't know how reliable the information is.
My previous phone was an HTC Evo which was fully rootable and unlockable etc., and an HTC Evo 3d which was fully rootable and unlockable at the time I managed to do it (apparently the 3d goes through phases where it is, then phases where it isn't, depending on its updates). My basic and non-technical understanding of the Atrix 2 environment is that becauase the bootloader is currently locked, the backup/restore/flashing solutions have to perform a few tricks to work.
So from what I can tell in the dev forum, there are currently two ways to backup and flash roms. There is safestrap, which apparently isn't quite working yet, which partitions your microSD card and runs everything from there -- essentially when you boot your phone it tells the OS to boot from the microSD card which effectively lets you treat your Atrix 2 as a fully unlocked and rooted device with a remarkably large and well-configured recovery partition. Unfortunately, according to the title of the safestrap thread, it's not quite working yet, and a few of the roms posted in the development forum specifically say not to use it.
OK, so bootstrap. It was updated as of Jan 1. If you have already rooted your Atrix 2 (I have) then it throws up a menu that lets you boot into recovery, and it will install (I think this is my understanding) a custom version of ClockwordMod Recovery? But you can't get there from boot, you have to boot into Android and then reboot back into the recovery environment.
Is that correct?
If that is correct, then my next question is what happens in the hypothetical scenario where you install a rom, something goes wrong, and you want to restore a previous backup but you can't boot into Android?
There's something I'm missing about how all this is supposed to work and it looks like it's something so obvious that nobody actually talks about it in the threads -- or when they're talking about it, I don't actually realize that's what they're talking about so it doesn't register.
Anyway. Thanks for your time.
There's a script in the thread that gives you cwm on boot. The catch is it goes to recovery first EVERYTIME you boot.
ubersoft said:
I feel monumentally stupid asking this question, but I've run out of options. I have tried searching first, but I'm having trouble figuring out how to phrase the search and most of the search results are for non-Atrix 2 phones, so I don't know how reliable the information is.
My previous phone was an HTC Evo which was fully rootable and unlockable etc., and an HTC Evo 3d which was fully rootable and unlockable at the time I managed to do it (apparently the 3d goes through phases where it is, then phases where it isn't, depending on its updates). My basic and non-technical understanding of the Atrix 2 environment is that becauase the bootloader is currently locked, the backup/restore/flashing solutions have to perform a few tricks to work.
So from what I can tell in the dev forum, there are currently two ways to backup and flash roms. There is safestrap, which apparently isn't quite working yet, which partitions your microSD card and runs everything from there -- essentially when you boot your phone it tells the OS to boot from the microSD card which effectively lets you treat your Atrix 2 as a fully unlocked and rooted device with a remarkably large and well-configured recovery partition. Unfortunately, according to the title of the safestrap thread, it's not quite working yet, and a few of the roms posted in the development forum specifically say not to use it.
OK, so bootstrap. It was updated as of Jan 1. If you have already rooted your Atrix 2 (I have) then it throws up a menu that lets you boot into recovery, and it will install (I think this is my understanding) a custom version of ClockwordMod Recovery? But you can't get there from boot, you have to boot into Android and then reboot back into the recovery environment.
Is that correct?
If that is correct, then my next question is what happens in the hypothetical scenario where you install a rom, something goes wrong, and you want to restore a previous backup but you can't boot into Android?
There's something I'm missing about how all this is supposed to work and it looks like it's something so obvious that nobody actually talks about it in the threads -- or when they're talking about it, I don't actually realize that's what they're talking about so it doesn't register.
Anyway. Thanks for your time.
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In the situation that you describe, even the CWM on boot that mtnlion mentioned, still may not get you into CWM. In that case your ONLY option is to flash the fxz file with rsd lite, that will restore you to a full stock out of the box atrix 2, which you then have to re-root, then re-install bootstrap, then restore your backup.
Sorry there is not an easier way right now, but until the bootloader is unlocked we can't flash CWM, so that we can get to it, as you would the default android recovery, because that does require the default recovery to be replaced, and an unlocked bootloader is required for that to work.
Safestrap is really a tool that is only useful to those actually developing, or people that we have asked to test something out, and since lfaber06 and I don't have a version to release to the public that we are happy with yet, that is not an option.
Oh!
So you install bootstrap, then you install the script, and when you do that it basically acts like a grub menu? That makes sense.
ubersoft said:
Oh!
So you install bootstrap, then you install the script, and when you do that it basically acts like a grub menu? That makes sense.
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No, if you get a bad flash you still may not be able to get into CWM, since it requires files that are actually in the Android ROM, to fully work. Read my post above ^^^
Heh. Apparently I started posting at about the same time you posted your detailed explanation...
Thanks for the additional information. Based on that, it looks like I need to wait a bit longer before mucking about with my Atrix 2. Thanks for the update!
ubersoft said:
Heh. Apparently I started posting at about the same time you posted your detailed explanation...
Thanks for the additional information. Based on that, it looks like I need to wait a bit longer before mucking about with my Atrix 2. Thanks for the update!
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No, it is perfectly safe, but the restore is just a little more complex than you had to deal with, with other phones. I have done exactly what I mentioned above SEVERAL times, with out issue, since I am doing a ton of dev work on this phone.
The ROMs that are out there are great right now, and lfaber06s ROM is really good, and I will be releasing a version of CM7 very soon. If you wait for a bootloader unlock, it may never come, or at least it may not be very soon.
The worst thing that happens is that you have to flash the fxz, which it is documented how to do that with RSD lite very well in the noob thread here. then you can restore your backup with out issue, it is just a few extra steps.
Bootstrap is really safe as is all of lfaber06 Roms right now. I have no problem recommending either of his roms to anyone. They are both very good. As Jim has stated the only problems we have is if something wrong happens on boot, but with the fastboot files, RSD lite, and the one click root method you have everything available to get you right back to where you were before you flashed.
I can promise you everything works very good as I have soft bricked my phone so many rimes in the last 2 weeks that I have become very efficient at getting back to stock, rooting and then flashing a backup with bootstrap and can be back in business n around 20 mins. Just always be near a computer when you start flashing things. One thing that will help out is to keep a backup of the bootstrap on tour SD card so if you have something go wrong you don't have to redownload it again.
We have a very good group of people here and if anyone has any problems we can get you through them and back running
Well there we are then!
So after getting a clearer picture of the situation (thanks for the explanation) I blocked off most of the night, installed bootstrap, then installed lfaber06's Supercharged v4. It took forever, but it worked flawlessly.
Thanks everyone for your patience and encouragement.
I purchased a Galaxy Exhilarate last weekend. This phone was just released by AT&T a few days before that. After playing around with the phone, and doing some reading, I can admit, they've done a decent job. Of course, it comes with all the standard "bloat" that all the phones have, but it also has a few nice things too.
For one, reading using the Barnes & Noble Nook App is not bad, esp. since I own a Nook. To read the same books I'm reading on my nook, just tell the nook app the same account you use for your nook, and all your purchased content (including games) will be available. Of course, my Nook is hacked with Android, and I can do far more than just read books on it. Anyway, I'm off topic here.
After toying around with the phone, I decided it was time to delve deeper into it, and look at rooting it. I did a quick search, and, well, there's NOTHING out there on how to root it!
I also wasn't sure how to get into the Android Restore mode.
After looking into it, I figured it out on my own
1) Power down the phone
2) Push & hold both the UP and DOWN volume buttons and then push and hold the Power button.
3) "Samsung" will come up, and then disappear. AS SOON as it disappears, release all the buttons
The phone will now boot into the Android System Recovery mode.
As I'm just getting started, I'll post more when I get to that point!
To play around (if you just happen to own this phone), you should read the entire post. You can also go straight to my guide on how to root using a workaround I developed with Shaggypenquin and j3r3goss. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29566997
If you are an XDA Admin, would like to see this get it's own forum with the other Samsung phones! Thanks!
Rooting the Galaxy Exhilarate
Hello , I'm new to the forum , but I also purchased the Samsung Galaxy Exhilarate recently. I'm sad to say that although you SHOULD be able to "root the phone using a standard technique for Android 2.3.3 to 2.3.7 Gingerbread" , I cannot. I follow the procedure for rooting Androids 2.3.3 to 2.3.7 Gingerbread (using the attached file that you provided), and it gave me a message stating "E:failed to verify whole-file signature. (new line) E:signature verification failed". I'm a noob when it comes to Androids to know what this message means, however I'm hoping you can provide me with some much needed assistance
P.S. I've tried to research around, very thoroughly in my opinion, so this is a last resort of sorts haha
-Thank you in advance!
DaveeG: I too have run into the issue you are talking about. I haven't had time to try to figure out the workaround yet. Check back in early July... Maybe I'll figure something out, or someone else will, and they'll post here.
BlackWolf
Alright , thanks. Somebody help me pleasee ,
anyway you could do a system dump? If so, I could probably get a solution for everyone.
Excuse my ignorance , but what exactly do you mean by a system dump? sounds like a reset of some kind,
gicuenitro said:
anyway you could do a system dump? If so, I could probably get a solution for everyone.
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gicuenitro: I'll see if I can get one done. It may be a few days. Next week I start vacation, so I plan to spend a day just messing around w/ this.
You cant apply unofficial updates through the stock recovery as it will check to see if it is signed by samsung. Either patch the recovery or find another way to root.
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It would be alot easier to get around the e-signature if CWM Recovery Was Flashed to the phone. I will be looking for the CWM Recovery Version That will best suit this situation. I used CWM Recovery to flash Custom ROMS to my SGH-i717 (AT&T Galaxy Note) As Soon as i Find that version I will post it. be patient Rome wasnt built in a day and i would hate for your phone to become one expensive paper weight lol:good:
androiddeveloper89 said:
It would be alot easier to get around the e-signature if CWM Recovery Was Flashed to the phone. I will be looking for the CWM Recovery Version That will best suit this situation. I used CWM Recovery to flash Custom ROMS to my SGH-i717 (AT&T Galaxy Note) As Soon as i Find that version I will post it. be patient Rome wasnt built in a day and i would hate for your phone to become one expensive paper weight lol:good:
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I have used CWM before. I look forward to your solution. I think the Exhilarate is similar to another AT&T phone that may already be rooted, but I don't know if one phone's hack/root will apply to another, similar phone.
Anyone else have any suggestions?
Made several unsuccessful attempts to root this device with SuperOneClick v2.3.3 and DooMLoRD_v4_ROOT for Skyrocket (i727). On a side note, rebooting restores all uninstalled at&t bloatware.
I got one of these by chance and was wondering if anyone has tried Odin to push cwm? Has anyone found anything on this? I can help....just need to know where to start.
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Flash a kernel with a patched recovery then install the su files from the recovery.
That's how antsm did it for the galaxy ace 2, try give him a message and see if he'll whip up a quick kernel for you. I would give it a go but I don't have a Linux machine right now. Remember to ask him politely though.
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da9b16
I haven't tried yet. This is my first Sammy phone so I've just been reading rooting guides for similar phones.
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If someone could get a system dump I would greatly appreciate it. I somehow manage to screw up the stock recovery and now my capacitive buttons only respond once or twice after booting and then they appear to lock up. Attempted to do a full restore through Kies with no success. Chatted with samsung and they say at this time there is no way to do a full reinstall.
Still unable to root/sysdump
Ok, been trying to get root access and/or do a system dump on the phone.
So far, no luck.
However, I have been able to get the phone to dump its system properties...
Here they are (hopefully, this can be used as a start?):
<Rest of post deleted here due to size/length of post (and not needed)>
I used the ADB to get shell access to the phone. When I type the command "su dd if=/dev/block/stl6 of=/sdcard/factoryfs.rfs" I get "su: permission denied".
So, assuming "su" is superuser, how do I get that if my phone isn't rooted???
Thanks for any help you can give.
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BlackWolf
ODIN Mode
da9b16 said:
I got one of these by chance and was wondering if anyone has tried Odin to push cwm? Has anyone found anything on this? I can help....just need to know where to start.
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Ok, I've got my phone to boot into "ODIN Mode". I downloaded ODIN3 1.85. I've opened it up. Not sure I want to push something to the phone just yet (sure as hell don't want to brick it). ...
Suggestions...?
Black-wolf said:
Ok, I've got my phone to boot into "ODIN Mode". I downloaded ODIN3 1.85. I've opened it up. Not sure I want to push something to the phone just yet (sure as hell don't want to brick it). ...
Suggestions...?
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I pushed the skyrocket cwm and my phone did not like it. I think cwm is actually trying to come up but it's ugly and not usable. The phone still boots but the capacitive buttons are locking up. I have since pushed the s3 stock att recovery and the s3 cwm with no success. I'm using my htc aria because the phone is mostly useless without the buttons. I'm up to custom binary flash count 3 now. I will probably get a chance to play more this weekend but i just started a 5 wk probability and statistics class and a history class that are eating all my time during the week.
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Almost there... maybe... I think...
j3r3goss said:
I pushed the skyrocket cwm and my phone did not like it. I think cwm is actually trying to come up but it's ugly and not usable. The phone still boots but the capacitive buttons are locking up. I have since pushed the s3 stock att recovery and the s3 cwm with no success. I'm using my htc aria because the phone is mostly useless without the buttons. I'm up to custom binary flash count 3 now. I will probably get a chance to play more this weekend but i just started a 5 wk probability and statistics class and a history class that are eating all my time during the week.
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I think you may have gone the wrong way about this - however, I am working on a manual root for the phone - and I think I may have something soon!
If/when I get rooted, I'll make sure I post the original img so you can at least recover your phone back to stock.
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BlackWolf
I was originally trying to root to be able to install cwn through rom manager, but since that didn'tr work I was trying to push CWM thru Odin so I could do a a nadroid and then try to flash superuser and busybox through cwm. I admit I don't know much about it.This is only my second android phone and the first time I've had a backup if I mess something up
Hi Team,
Prior any play with my new G930FD I want to fully backup all firmware elements like radio, EFS, etc. to bring it back to state as it is now.
Once this is done I can play with adding root, etc.
Thought process was that it should be possible with ODIN, but I can't find a guide treating this subject.
In the past I've used to use Philz Touch on S4 LTE and all worked fine besides I've had troubles to restore NAND backups. Needed to move back from LineageOS to older CyanogenMOD (due to some issues) only to find out that old backup was not working anymore. I've tested backup earlier but it was years ago and didn't re-test procedure anymore.
Since don't want to run into any similar situation that can't revert to state as I'm in now, thought will asks you experts here.
In the past I'd think about process of booting recovery from computer via fastboot, performing required backup to SD card and them doing whatever I'd need to do.
Checking all guides (and believe me I've spent plenty of time trying to find it) all I was finding was that it required root to perform dump, i.e. using su with dd.
I've no issue to type in terminal as used to patch kernel back in times of kernel v2.4.
I just want to make sure that throughout the process of getting root, I'll have always a roll-back procedure and don't want to trip Knox and other flags, whilst if possible keeping OTA access (based on guides here, this should be possible).
Please advise on steps I should take to backup all current data with any tool or point me to place I've missed as I'm sure someone has described it already and I'm just being blind.
Thanks in advance!
dkadds2 said:
Hi Team,
Prior any play with my new G930FD I want to fully backup all firmware elements like radio, EFS, etc. to bring it back to state as it is now.
Once this is done I can play with adding root, etc.
Thought process was that it should be possible with ODIN, but I can't find a guide treating this subject.
In the past I've used to use Philz Touch on S4 LTE and all worked fine besides I've had troubles to restore NAND backups. Needed to move back from LineageOS to older CyanogenMOD (due to some issues) only to find out that old backup was not working anymore. I've tested backup earlier but it was years ago and didn't re-test procedure anymore.
Since don't want to run into any similar situation that can't revert to state as I'm in now, thought will asks you experts here.
In the past I'd think about process of booting recovery from computer via fastboot, performing required backup to SD card and them doing whatever I'd need to do.
Checking all guides (and believe me I've spent plenty of time trying to find it) all I was finding was that it required root to perform dump, i.e. using su with dd.
I've no issue to type in terminal as used to patch kernel back in times of kernel v2.4.
I just want to make sure that throughout the process of getting root, I'll have always a roll-back procedure and don't want to trip Knox and other flags, whilst if possible keeping OTA access (based on guides here, this should be possible).
Please advise on steps I should take to backup all current data with any tool or point me to place I've missed as I'm sure someone has described it already and I'm just being blind.
Thanks in advance!
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There's a method to do that but I'm afraid it's not for our phone, because you see for the devices that can install twrp with fastboot command you can make a command that only boots twrp "fastboot boot recovery" or something like that, I don't remember clearly,instead of "fastboot flash xxxx" but we can't flash twrp with fastboot so that's impossible for us I think, I strongly advise you not to try these methods because you might end up bricking your device, if you are afraid you might mess up your phone stay away from the root and flashing, AFAIK there's no other method than the one with Odin and formatting data.
Thanks for answer, hoped I was just missing something.
Might be interesting for some people, and in fact for myself too.
I've found out that baseband version I've is not listed at Sammobile:
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-s7/SM-G930FD/
It is:
G930FXXU1DQEJ
Not sure how to proceed should I run into issues?
I do also consider downgrading back to Marshmallow to take advantage of Xposed.
btw. it was all so easy, nice and sweet back in times of my S4 LTE play and now it is all so complicated, that even encryption with root seems to be so, so dangerous. :-S
dkadds2 said:
Hi Team,
Thanks in advance!
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Maybe this one https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/tool-twrp-backup-restore-tool-pc-t3572241 or https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-phone-backup-unlock-root-t1420351
Long time ago... though forgot to make sure I say thank you! I've had laptop OS level issues and missed to say that. Sorry.
DisabledDroid said:
I have a unique problem, and I hope to some guidance on it.
I have a used TF700t I am trying to get unlocked. But it is not simple and will explain -
Bought the tablet used and expected it was in good shape by doing a full restore with a wipe of all data. The next task was getting it rooted and I was successful (after my upgrading apps and reading forum). I then tried to put TWRP on it and was going nuts.
It seems not to have a recovery on. Several tools pointed me in the right direction.
It has build jro03c.us_epd-10.4.4.20_20121026 running Android 4.1.1. Says is rooted but no permission to use the 2020 fix for the unlocking.
I understand there is a way to get and put a stock recovery on it......
From a Disabled NOOBie