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Hello,
Anybody see this issue? My Google Now is not listening to the hot word anymore. See the listening icon is paused. A reboot or cache clear of Google Search app resolves it but it is really annoying. Trying to figure out what's causing the pause.
Here is the screenshot of my home screen. Notice the listening icon looks different.
Thanks.
danlo said:
Hello,
Anybody see this issue? My Google Now is not listening to the hot word anymore. See the listening icon is paused. A reboot or cache clear of Google Search app resolves it but it is really annoying. Trying to figure out what's causing the pause.
Here is the screenshot of my home screen. Notice the listening icon looks different.
Thanks.
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Were you using headphones that day? I've seen this issue, and I think it's an audio issue (software). When I had this issue, the speakers didn't work either.
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I was using my Bluetooth headset but I've been using this pair since day 1. This just started happening yesterday.
Workaround I mentioned in another thread this morning:
With any music or sound playing apps paused, tap the Google logo (not the mic icon) in the Google search tool. Once in the search screen, just swipe back out to the home screen. The mic icon should now be "filled in" instead of hollow, and should respond to "Ok Google".
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TJCacher said:
Workaround I mentioned in another thread this morning:
With any music or sound playing apps paused, tap the Google logo (not the mic icon) in the Google search tool. Once in the search screen, just swipe back out to the home screen. The mic icon should now be "filled in" instead of hollow, and should respond to "Ok Google".
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Thanks for the tip!
man sadly nothing in this thread is working for me
I toggled the hotword option, toggled it with reboots in between, cleared Google Search data and cache, removed device administrators, toggled english styles, toggled wifi... I've done everything I can think of, and it's still not working.
I've scoured the web and nothing. It was working when I first got the phone, but today I noticed it had stopped. Ugh.
bengrulz said:
man sadly nothing in this thread is working for me
I toggled the hotword option, toggled it with reboots in between, cleared Google Search data and cache, removed device administrators, toggled english styles, toggled wifi... I've done everything I can think of, and it's still not working.
I've scoured the web and nothing. It was working when I first got the phone, but today I noticed it had stopped. Ugh.
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Same with me. I'm not sure why nobody else is having this issue. I've tried everything to get it back to always listening, and it doesn't work. I have to hit the microphone. The only "workaround" I've found is to swipe up from the center bottom of the lock screen, which takes me to the google now page and it's listening for "ok google". I can't get the widget on the left pane back though.
bengrulz said:
man sadly nothing in this thread is working for me
I toggled the hotword option, toggled it with reboots in between, cleared Google Search data and cache, removed device administrators, toggled english styles, toggled wifi... I've done everything I can think of, and it's still not working.
I've scoured the web and nothing. It was working when I first got the phone, but today I noticed it had stopped. Ugh.
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Ok, I've done a lot more testing with this issue, and have come up with the following working theory. If any of you notice behavior inconsistent with this theory, post it up here. Maybe we can pin the exact cause down enough to let Google know the exact parameters of this glitch.
Here's my theory:
I'm going to call the situation where the Google search mic icon is hollow and the search won't respond to "Ok Google" the HM (hollow mic) mode, and the normal, full mic icon, indicating the search will properly respond to "Ok Google" the FM (full mic) mode. (HM=hollow mic is not listening, FM=full mic is listening)
The problem seems to be that the control is designed to enter HM mode whenever the system is aware that the device is playing sound and to return to FM mode when the system detects that sound has been paused or stopped, but that sometimes the system gets "stuck" in HM mode and remains there even when sound has been paused or stopped. Furthermore, in some cases HM mode is not activated when sound is started,
My theory is that the HM/FM switching only occurs correctly when the sound app itself is used to *directly* start and stop sound. If you use an alternate method to start and/or stop sound (like a linked set of media controls in the notification shade, or a set of media controls in a linked home-screen widget), then there is a near certainty that either HM mode will not be activated when sound starts and/or FM mode will not be reset when sound stops.
When the system becomes "stuck" in HM mode, even when no sound is playing, I have found two ways to reliably get it to reset to FM mode:
Method 1:
1) Stop any sound being played by the device via any means (directly from a sound app, or indirectly from a set of media controls in the notification shade or a home-screen widget)
2) Tap the word "Google" in the Google search bar at the top of any home screen
3) Once inside the search screen, cancel it by swiping right-to-left once or twice to return to the home screen.
Method 2
1) Go into the sound app which either is or was being used to play sound
2) Start the app playing sound from directly in the app itself
3) Stop or pause the sound from directly in the app itself
On my device, using Google Play as the sound app, I have had 100% success, with both of these methods, at getting HM mode "unstuck" and getting the device back into FM mode.
I can also reliably produce the "stuck" HM mode by starting music from within a music app, but stopping or pausing it from outside the app by using a widget.
On my device, if starting from FM mode, starting music playing from a widget instead of from within a music app will result in the device never entering HM mode in the first place.
If others can verify this, I think we may be able to say with some confidence that the problem is that the method being used to detect when sound starts and stops is not properly looking for sound to be started or stopped using an externally-linked set of media controls (as from a notification shade or widget), and that it only reliably works when sound is started or stopped *directly from inside the app itself, using app's built-in media controls*.
Thanks for any additional data anyone is willing to provide to prove or disprove this theory.
I've had the same issue, but I can add that this is happening with games as well. Specifically, asphalt 8 causes this problem. Obviously, when I'm switching between apps, I wouldn't want to kill an ongoing game or song just to make the hotword work. The HC issue is annoying and I hope there's a fix to always keep it live no matter which apps are in the background...
shaklee3 said:
Same with me. I'm not sure why nobody else is having this issue. I've tried everything to get it back to always listening, and it doesn't work. I have to hit the microphone. The only "workaround" I've found is to swipe up from the center bottom of the lock screen, which takes me to the google now page and it's listening for "ok google". I can't get the widget on the left pane back though.
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bengrulz said:
man sadly nothing in this thread is working for me
I toggled the hotword option, toggled it with reboots in between, cleared Google Search data and cache, removed device administrators, toggled english styles, toggled wifi... I've done everything I can think of, and it's still not working.
I've scoured the web and nothing. It was working when I first got the phone, but today I noticed it had stopped. Ugh.
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My hotword detection also suddenly doesn't work. I've toggled the option in google now settings, rebooted, cleared cache, turned off google music... nothing turns it back on.
TJCacher said:
Ok, I've done a lot more testing with this issue, and have come up with the following working theory. If any of you notice behavior inconsistent with this theory, post it up here. Maybe we can pin the exact cause down enough to let Google know the exact parameters of this glitch.
Here's my theory:
I'm going to call the situation where the Google search mic icon is hollow and the search won't respond to "Ok Google" the HM (hollow mic) mode, and the normal, full mic icon, indicating the search will properly respond to "Ok Google" the FM (full mic) mode. (HM=hollow mic is not listening, FM=full mic is listening)
The problem seems to be that the control is designed to enter HM mode whenever the system is aware that the device is playing sound and to return to FM mode when the system detects that sound has been paused or stopped, but that sometimes the system gets "stuck" in HM mode and remains there even when sound has been paused or stopped. Furthermore, in some cases HM mode is not activated when sound is started,
My theory is that the HM/FM switching only occurs correctly when the sound app itself is used to *directly* start and stop sound. If you use an alternate method to start and/or stop sound (like a linked set of media controls in the notification shade, or a set of media controls in a linked home-screen widget), then there is a near certainty that either HM mode will not be activated when sound starts and/or FM mode will not be reset when sound stops.
When the system becomes "stuck" in HM mode, even when no sound is playing, I have found two ways to reliably get it to reset to FM mode:
Method 1:
1) Stop any sound being played by the device via any means (directly from a sound app, or indirectly from a set of media controls in the notification shade or a home-screen widget)
2) Tap the word "Google" in the Google search bar at the top of any home screen
3) Once inside the search screen, cancel it by swiping right-to-left once or twice to return to the home screen.
Method 2
1) Go into the sound app which either is or was being used to play sound
2) Start the app playing sound from directly in the app itself
3) Stop or pause the sound from directly in the app itself
On my device, using Google Play as the sound app, I have had 100% success, with both of these methods, at getting HM mode "unstuck" and getting the device back into FM mode.
I can also reliably produce the "stuck" HM mode by starting music from within a music app, but stopping or pausing it from outside the app by using a widget.
On my device, if starting from FM mode, starting music playing from a widget instead of from within a music app will result in the device never entering HM mode in the first place.
If others can verify this, I think we may be able to say with some confidence that the problem is that the method being used to detect when sound starts and stops is not properly looking for sound to be started or stopped using an externally-linked set of media controls (as from a notification shade or widget), and that it only reliably works when sound is started or stopped *directly from inside the app itself, using app's built-in media controls*.
Thanks for any additional data anyone is willing to provide to prove or disprove this theory.
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didn't help me. can't figure out what is going on. so frustrating.
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For me, turning off Push Bullet Notification Listener in Accessibility in Settings made Google Now hot word work again.
gaetawoo said:
For me, turning off Push Bullet Notification Listener in Accessibility in Settings made Google Now hot word work again.
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I'm replying to clarify this info for others who, like me, may not have been aware that Push Bullet is a third-party app that is installed from the Google Play store.
After reading through the app's description and reviews on the Play Store site, it sounds like a very useful app which has recently added a new feature which mirrors your notifications to a PC via a PC-side browser add-on.
According to a number of the user reviews on the Play Store, which have been confirmed by the app's author, this feature is causing problems with the "always listening" feature of OK Google.
Sounds like they're actively working on a solution for the conflict.
Thanks for posting this - it may very well be the reason some others have had no luck getting the listening feature to work.
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TJCacher said:
I'm replying to clarify this info for others who, like me, may not have been aware that Push Bullet is a third-party app that is installed from the Google Play store.
After reading through the app's description and reviews on the Play Store site, it sounds like a very useful app which has recently added a new feature which mirrors your notifications to a PC via a PC-side browser add-on.
According to a number of the user reviews on the Play Store, which have been confirmed by the app's author, this feature is causing problems with the "always listening" feature of OK Google.
Sounds like they're actively working on a solution for the conflict.
Thanks for posting this - it may very well be the reason some others have had no luck getting the listening feature to work.
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Yes I've talked to them, they know about it and are working on it, but that say it could be an OS issue.. that are trying to figure it out.
This happens to me at least couple times a day. Either Wi-Fi disconnect or a OK Google three I n a row consecutive search. Solution: kill the g search app it will automatically restart and you'll be gtg
Pebble whatsapp notifier causes this same problem. Unchecked it in accessibility and viola! Always listening again..
Easiest solution I found on the internet was to go into settings and install the US English language pack. Even though it says it is installed, reinstall it and set it as the default. After a reboot, it worked perfectly.
phandroid.com/2013/11/14/how-to-install-google-experience-launcher-with-ok-google-command/
Once in Google Now, scroll all the way to the bottom and press the 3 dot menu to select Settings. From there, select “voice” > “offline speech recognition” (manage downloaded languages). Now, we’re going to work our way from the right tab, all the way to the left.
Select the Auto-Update tab from the top and choose one of the auto-update options (we recommend leaving it on “over WiFi-only”). After that, scoot over to the All tab and find English (US). You’ll notice it already says “pre-installed”. Don’t listen to it. Select English (US) anyway. From there, jump to the Installed tab and press “English (US)” where you’ll be asked to download the latest version (version 28 at the time of writing). Hit “Download” and the updated version will be downloaded and installed.
TJCacher said:
Ok, I've done a lot more testing with this issue, and have come up with the following working theory. If any of you notice behavior inconsistent with this theory, post it up here. Maybe we can pin the exact cause down enough to let Google know the exact parameters of this glitch.
Here's my theory:
I'm going to call the situation where the Google search mic icon is hollow and the search won't respond to "Ok Google" the HM (hollow mic) mode, and the normal, full mic icon, indicating the search will properly respond to "Ok Google" the FM (full mic) mode. (HM=hollow mic is not listening, FM=full mic is listening)
The problem seems to be that the control is designed to enter HM mode whenever the system is aware that the device is playing sound and to return to FM mode when the system detects that sound has been paused or stopped, but that sometimes the system gets "stuck" in HM mode and remains there even when sound has been paused or stopped. Furthermore, in some cases HM mode is not activated when sound is started,
My theory is that the HM/FM switching only occurs correctly when the sound app itself is used to *directly* start and stop sound. If you use an alternate method to start and/or stop sound (like a linked set of media controls in the notification shade, or a set of media controls in a linked home-screen widget), then there is a near certainty that either HM mode will not be activated when sound starts and/or FM mode will not be reset when sound stops.
When the system becomes "stuck" in HM mode, even when no sound is playing, I have found two ways to reliably get it to reset to FM mode:
Method 1:
1) Stop any sound being played by the device via any means (directly from a sound app, or indirectly from a set of media controls in the notification shade or a home-screen widget)
2) Tap the word "Google" in the Google search bar at the top of any home screen
3) Once inside the search screen, cancel it by swiping right-to-left once or twice to return to the home screen.
Method 2
1) Go into the sound app which either is or was being used to play sound
2) Start the app playing sound from directly in the app itself
3) Stop or pause the sound from directly in the app itself
On my device, using Google Play as the sound app, I have had 100% success, with both of these methods, at getting HM mode "unstuck" and getting the device back into FM mode.
I can also reliably produce the "stuck" HM mode by starting music from within a music app, but stopping or pausing it from outside the app by using a widget.
On my device, if starting from FM mode, starting music playing from a widget instead of from within a music app will result in the device never entering HM mode in the first place.
If others can verify this, I think we may be able to say with some confidence that the problem is that the method being used to detect when sound starts and stops is not properly looking for sound to be started or stopped using an externally-linked set of media controls (as from a notification shade or widget), and that it only reliably works when sound is started or stopped *directly from inside the app itself, using app's built-in media controls*.
Thanks for any additional data anyone is willing to provide to prove or disprove this theory.
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I have the same issue and none of that work for me, it gets stuck with real racing, i force the stop once and it started to work again but minutes later it was hallow again, please help
shaklee3 said:
Same with me. I'm not sure why nobody else is having this issue. I've tried everything to get it back to always listening, and it doesn't work. I have to hit the microphone. The only "workaround" I've found is to swipe up from the center bottom of the lock screen, which takes me to the google now page and it's listening for "ok google". I can't get the widget on the left pane back though.
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Are you on stock? I thought this was a result of the new launcher in today's version of cm.
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xdapro said:
Easiest solution I found on the internet was to go into settings and install the US English language pack. Even though it says it is installed, reinstall it and set it as the default. After a reboot, it worked perfectly.
phandroid.com/2013/11/14/how-to-install-google-experience-launcher-with-ok-google-command/
Once in Google Now, scroll all the way to the bottom and press the 3 dot menu to select Settings. From there, select “voice” > “offline speech recognition” (manage downloaded languages). Now, we’re going to work our way from the right tab, all the way to the left.
Select the Auto-Update tab from the top and choose one of the auto-update options (we recommend leaving it on “over WiFi-only”). After that, scoot over to the All tab and find English (US). You’ll notice it already says “pre-installed”. Don’t listen to it. Select English (US) anyway. From there, jump to the Installed tab and press “English (US)” where you’ll be asked to download the latest version (version 28 at the time of writing). Hit “Download” and the updated version will be downloaded and installed.
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I love you dude or dudette I was going balled trying to figure this out, thanks a lot!
I found out that the hot word detection only works on the default launcher. If I add the google search widget on apex launcher, I get the search bar with a hollow mic, and hot word detection does not work.
If I use default launcher I got the full mic and hot word detection works.
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So it's happened 2-3 times now since I got the phone...all of the sudden voice input stops working. I can no-longer say OK Google to open it up, and even if I open it manually and hit the search button, it doesn't record any voice at all.
The weird thing is, I can still use voice input in any keyboard location (like in SMS or Chrome), but the basic functionality doesn't work.
Anyone else have this happen?
did you by any chance use third party launcher?
gd6noob said:
did you by any chance use third party launcher?
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Nope, stock launcher. All options for Google Now are enabled, and it works great 90% of the time, but then it just...stops. Only way to get it working again is a restart.
Hi there. I also have this problem. I have narrowed it down to MX player or chrome video player (also same issue with headphones + video). When you play a few movies and exit MX player, "OK Google" will not respond to voice commands. The only fix is to reboot your phone. I have tested this today. I played a few movies after i made sure "OK Google" was working fine and sure enough, the feature stopped working immediately after i played a couple of movies. Sometimes it will not get affected, but most of the time MX player or the integrated Chrome video player will break this function. I would like someone else to confirm this, thanks.
ps; Just tested my theory again after a phone reboot and now it seems to work fine... I have no idea wtf is going on with this feature, but when it breaks, even the search bar stops working. The whole thing just stops functioning - speech , search just stops working.
hotleadsingerguy said:
So it's happened 2-3 times now since I got the phone...all of the sudden voice input stops working. I can no-longer say OK Google to open it up, and even if I open it manually and hit the search button, it doesn't record any voice at all.
The weird thing is, I can still use voice input in any keyboard location (like in SMS or Chrome), but the basic functionality doesn't work.
Anyone else have this happen?
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update : i have Xperia Z2
in my case it's the opposite , lol
i have my OK Google working but my voice input not , unfortunatelly anyone can help me ? pls ?
ryan42680 said:
update : i have Xperia Z2
in my case it's the opposite , lol
i have my OK Google working but my voice input not , unfortunatelly anyone can help me ? pls ?
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Sort of. I've had a few things happen like this in the past, and I've realized there's always been a reason (sometimes it's changing settings in Android Wear that pertain to Voice support, sometimes it's switching the voice stuff on on my iPhone 6, sometimes it's changing my Google password, etc...).
The way I've always been able to fix it is just to log out of Google Now and log back in. It says it'll lose things, but it doesn't at all. Takes ~15 seconds, and it's always fixed all of my voice issues, including the one listed above and the other one where it recognizes everything and opens the Google Search...but then everything is blank.
hey, thx i got google voice input working on apps and saying ok goole works but voice input isn't working when i'm in the search bar strange haha
UPDATE: try flashing another Official Rom, gd luck
Is anyone else having a problem with their touch less controls. I can say OK google now and the phone will make a noise. But when google now opens it says " Sorry can't reach google right now ". Same goes for any other kind of voice driven function , texting by voice in the stock messaging app, search in the maps app. They all hive me the same reply. I've checked all my setting. Im at a complete loss
Rooted & unlocked. Otherwise stock .
Have you updated your google search app?
I used HOM and fxz'd my phone . The google vioce app now works but the Moto touchless controls still don't
Google Now needs an active internet connection.
I have tried everything. I've spoken to Verizon who then refered me to Moto. Who had clear partition caches to no avail. Any and all voice recognition on my phone has ceased to work. Sometimes Google will open up to say " Can't reach google at the moment ". However if I manually open the search box Google now and all my cards are there. If I then hit the microphone icon It will again say "Can't reach google at the moment ". I'm at my wits end here. This will happen weather Im using my wifi or 4G signal.
I've fxz'd and that didn't work. I will entertain any and all ideas.
Any resolution with the voice control problem? I am having the same problem with my Droid Maxx running 4.4.4. It just started this week and I have reset it, but that didn't solve the problem. I figured the old apps wouldn't have the same problem as the newer versions. Guess I was wrong. I am trying Verizon Repair assistant to see what it can do for me. We will see.
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I have tried everything. I've spoken to Verizon who then refered me to Moto. Who had clear partition caches to no avail. Any and all voice recognition on my phone has ceased to work. Sometimes Google will open up to say " Can't reach google at the moment ". However if I manually open the search box Google now and all my cards are there. If I then hit the microphone icon It will again say "Can't reach google at the moment ". I'm at my wits end here. This will happen weather Im using my wifi or 4G signal.
I've fxz'd and that didn't work. I will entertain any and all ideas.
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Post your touchless/moto voice version from settings/app. They are interchangeable in name now. If you have the newest you must uninstall updates & retrain touchless voice.
I ended up FDRing the phone twice. The first time I let my apps reload automatically and my touchless control still didn't work. So I did it again, but the time I reloaded each app individually. Testing the touchless controls between each install. I ended up reinstalling every app but the one I thought was the culprit. This is no knock on the app I used it and I wish I could put it back in. Elixor2 has a setting where you can control and or turn on/off each of the sensors including the microphone. When I was having the problem I would go into elixir and see that my microphone was off and inaccessible. With out elixor2 on my phone I've had no more problems.
I have done the same type thing as Tom Baldwin6. I "redid" my phone using the Verizon software installation assistant and did a "repair". I then rooted it using TWRP, and started adding stuff. I have not had the problem again as of now.
I was thinking it was the experimental app that was allowing me to mirror my phone using Chromecast, but I am using version 4 of that app and it is still working. I used version 5 before.
My phone hasn't had a problem again after 24 hours, but as I continue to add apps and check, eventually I may find another culprit. I will post here if I get it tracked down.
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I have done the same type thing as Tom Baldwin6. I "redid" my phone using the Verizon software installation assistant and did a "repair". I then rooted it using TWRP, and started adding stuff. I have not had the problem again as of now.
I was thinking it was the experimental app that was allowing me to mirror my phone using Chromecast, but I am using version 4 of that app and it is still working. I used version 5 before.
My phone hasn't had a problem again after 24 hours, but as I continue to add apps and check, eventually I may find another culprit. I will post here if I get it tracked down.
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I suspected the the chromecast mirror as well It was one of the 1st apps I reloaded. But it wasn't it. I'm certain it has something to do with the microphone
Same issue here. Been a week since I FDR'd (NOT rooted or unlocked). The apps restored, touchless control no longer allows to register voice (does not recognize sound ONLY for Touchless Control).
Saw that Touchless Control has been updated to "Moto Voice",
Uninstalled Moto Voice to return to previous version. No luck. Again updated to Moto Voice.
Wipe Cache Partition, no luck.
I've installed Open Mic+, which works for the most part (never got it to work from lock screen)
Stopped Open Mic+.
I then went in Language & input ---> Google voice typing settings (or Voice Search), disabled/re-enabled Speech Output. Clicked on "Ok Google Detection" and did the standard Google Now/OK Google setup again.
Went back to Touchless Control and this time it recognized my voice and allowed me to setup Touchless Control and all is working again.
Although the new "Moto Voice" on the "1st Gen [2013] Ultra/Maxx etc.., you cannot customize the "OK Google Now" at this time (coming feature for Gen 1's).
Rebooting now to ensure operation. Will updated/verify 'fix' in a moment.
Upon restart, my Open Mic+ restarted, and the "OK Google Now" was not working. Stopped the Open Mic+ and touchless control working again. Went in and re-trained to verify. Unintalling Open Mic+ and rebooting now.
Now again working 100%, now just awaiting Moto Voice update to allow additional features for 1st gen's.
i have got mine working gain too. I still haven't reinstalled everything though. I will reinstall x tether this weekend. I am hoping that it isn't cuseing any problems. Can't imagine why it would, but we will see. Do you guys have it installed?
Did you happen to open the Google app, scroll to the bottom, tap the three dot menu control on the bottom right, tap settings, voice, OK Google detection, and turn off the setting "On any screen"?
If that is on, I think it block touchless controls, maddeningly. I know it stops the Assist driving feature from being able to capture voice when it prompts you.
doogald said:
Did you happen to open the Google app, scroll to the bottom, tap the three dot menu control on the bottom right, tap settings, voice, OK Google detection, and turn off the setting "On any screen"?
If that is on, I think it block touchless controls, maddeningly. I know it stops the Assist driving feature from being able to capture voice when it prompts you.
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I set "on any screen" option and touchless controls does work from any screen, needing only "OK Google".
I am not driving now but will check Assist in about 2 hours.
iamtek7 said:
I set "on any screen" option and touchless controls does work from any screen, needing only "OK Google".
I am not driving now but will check Assist in about 2 hours.
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I don't think that's touchless controls - I think that's the Google search app listening and responding to ok Google , and, with that setting on, that's probably why you couldn't train in the Touchless controls settings (though I haven't tested that myself, since my phone is already trained.)
I know it's a subtle difference, but Touchless controls is a front end to google search most of the time, though sometimes it does its own thing (ok Google now, what's up?)
I do know that the any screen setting screws up some other things, like preventing the camera app from capturing video (because the microphone is in use).
I'm all set now. If this is still an issue for anyone, let me know.
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Edit: So on my drive this morning after the 2nd command through Assistant things worked as they do through Google Now (speaking options, playing music). Took a week, which is quite odd (and not sure if it will continue working later). Might be a bluetooth issue which I am aware that there are many right now.
Started using my Pixel 2 last week and have noticed some 'issues' with Assistant commands over Google Now commands and am not sure if these are settings/user related as I would expect Assistant to be the same if not more feature packed than Google Now.
All the things I am listing work without issue through Google Now and on both my Pixel 2 and my previous Moto Z Play.
1. No voice prompt 'beep' when Assistant is activated. Google Now has a tone to let you know when it starts and stops 'listening.'
2. No talking back (responses) when sending SMS, setting reminders, setting calendar events, asking where the nearest 7/11 is, etc., when connected to vehicle system (2015 Grand Cherokee UConnect)
3. No starting music back up once the above #2 is complete. Have to hit the 'play' button after each command.
The one issue I have solved is that if you are experiencing a blank screen when using Google Assistant (not Google Now) to send/set things, turn back on animation scaling to anything other than 'off' and it should properly display the text.
So Google Now works much better for my uses. Unfortunately, the phone is built with Google Assistant so I have not found a way to default Google Now over Assistant with at least the 'ok Google' hotword (doesn't seem there is any control over Active Edge). Moto Z let you create your own voice activation phrase for Google Now--I really miss that.
But because Google Now works without issue I do not know If I am just missing some settings or more control options for Google Assistant. Any recommendations?
I just purchased a 2018 Honda Accord EX that has Hondalink. The OS seems to be based on Android 6.1.1
So far Im very disappointed with the limitations of the Hondalink OS. The Driver Distraction Limitations are ridiculous. In CA it's illegal for you to hold your phone. It must be hands free. But as long as it's mounted, you are still able to use many functions as long as it's single finger touch. Regardless, I think a user/driver should be allowed choices and be held responsible if abusing those choices, like texting while driving, or watching a video while driving. But the limitations of HondaLink, coupled with AndroidAutos ridiculously small list of supported apps, it makes me wonder... WHY??? Why have this system at all? There's no app/option to watch video or browse images (even if parked) and no web browser. No Youtube. No Voxer support. Nothing. When I ask google for showtimes of a movie playing, using voice command, it gives showtimes for theaters that aren't even close to where I am when asking. Ive even tried to specify the theater when asking. Doing this only confuses it. This is a pathetic substitute for the fandango app.
Obviously I considered using the "Install App" (App Installer? sry, not in car) button. So, went on my galaxy S8+, used APK extractor, copied extracted apks to a USB jump drive, and plugged the jump drive into the car. The car recognizes the Jump Drive, and sees the apks, along with their appropriate file sizes. The apks I tested are Accuweather, ES File Explorer, Voxer, and Youtube. When I tap on one of the files, it brings up the "Install App?" dialogue box, but the button "Install" is greyed out.
Does anyone know how to get into the Developer Diagnosis page?
At the very very least, I'd like to disable the Driver Distraction Setting
Is there an android app that can be used as a substitute to Android-Auto that is a straight screen mirroring of the phone to the HondaLink Infotainment console?
i have a 2018 accord sport...i don't even get the subwoofer or the extra speakers....but using AA with my phone or just unplugging it when needed works just fine. What are you needing it to really do?
Before I go into it, please understand that I recognize that feature limitations and the "Driver Attention" lock is all meant for the safety of the driver and for others around the driver. I recognize that ultimately the road and the safety of those on the road are the priority. But i will also note that in CA, as long as the phone is mounted and not in your hand, you can pretty much do any task that only requires one finger (short of texting)
That being said, if AA allows an app, like Doubletwist, im frustrated that I cant do a simple one finger task of scrolling down a list of albums/artist/songs/playlist unless I'm at a complete stop. I've found that when I'm rolling at 2-3mph and am STILL locked out, im having to unplug my phone and look down at it to simply change playlist. When I'm going down a freeway and I'm in stop and go traffic for 15-20miles and never actually coming to a completely stop, this can be beyond frustrating. Ultimately I think that driver safety should be the drivers responsibility, and not predetermined by a company. If a driver abuses technology, then the driver needs to be accountable. It's my mission to figure out how to disable that stupid driver attention lock.
What do I want it to do? I want more than an overglorified play/pause button. Seriously. Yes it shows the name of the song and allows me to go to the next track, previous track, pause/play, but beyond that, absolutely no control. Voxer is a VERY simple one touch app. You tap to start voxing, you tap to stop. That's it, super straight forward. NOT supported. I want to be able to browse firefox, fandango, and YouTube when I'm parked.
But ultimately, I want the Android experience with full fledged apps. Android Auto pretty much just commandeers the Hond aLink infotainment screen. So just allow straight screen mirroring. That's what I "want".
Make playlists In Google play music....use your voice to change it.
Google play is nothing more than pandora and spotify. You have to select from their options. Yes, I might being "picky", but I prefer Doubletwist. It lets me sync my iTunes music and playlist. The point is, AA supports Doubletwist, but is too limited, and the "Driver Attention" lock is frustrating as heck. Besides that, AA is just too limited, too restrictive. Google/android should just do away with AA and just do straight screen mirroring. Or at least allow a 3rd party to make an app that resembles AA without so much of the limutations. It's sad that the most awesom.e feature in the best car ive had in almost 20 years is turning out to be the most pointless feature. 90% of what you can do through A you can do through Bluetooth. But I Really don't want to get a mount and make the dash look tacky. I mean, the phone mounted right next to the high infotainment screen. Jeez. More to the point, I just plain don't see why I should have to.
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Google play is nothing more than pandora and spotify. You have to select from their options. Yes, I might being "picky", but I prefer Doubletwist. It lets me sync my iTunes music and playlist. The point is, AA supports Doubletwist, but is too limited, and the "Driver Attention" lock is frustrating as heck. Besides that, AA is just too limited, too restrictive. Google/android should just do away with AA and just do straight screen mirroring. Or at least allow a 3rd party to make an app that resembles AA without so much of the limutations. It's sad that the most awesom.e feature in the best car ive had in almost 20 years is turning out to be the most pointless feature. 90% of what you can do through A you can do through Bluetooth. But I Really don't want to get a mount and make the dash look tacky. I mean, the phone mounted right next to the high infotainment screen. Jeez. More to the point, I just plain don't see why I should have to.
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Not sure what the doubletwist is, but I prefer using sony xperia musix (look here on xda). For youtube there is carstream app that someone made which can be used for watching youtube while driving besides parked (http://www.thekirankumar.com/blog/2017/12/29/play-youtube-video-android-auto-app/). Also, i believe there is newer android auto version which allows wireless AA but I haven't tested that yet which may help with some issues that you have.
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Not sure what the doubletwist is, but I prefer using sony xperia musix (look here on xda). For youtube there is carstream app that someone made which can be used for watching youtube while driving besides parked (http://www.thekirankumar.com/blog/2017/12/29/play-youtube-video-android-auto-app/). Also, i believe there is newer android auto version which allows wireless AA but I haven't tested that yet which may help with some issues that you have.
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Thanks I'll look into those. Presently, I just stuck a phone mount on the dash and keep everything Bluetooth. Its only taking advantage of probably 5% of the Honda-link infotainment consoles potential, and yet it's still 20x better than battling with Android Autos ridiculous limitations. Sad :\
varxtis said:
Before I go into it, please understand that I recognize that feature limitations and the "Driver Attention" lock is all meant for the safety of the driver and for others around the driver. I recognize that ultimately the road and the safety of those on the road are the priority. But i will also note that in CA, as long as the phone is mounted and not in your hand, you can pretty much do any task that only requires one finger (short of texting)
That being said, if AA allows an app, like Doubletwist, im frustrated that I cant do a simple one finger task of scrolling down a list of albums/artist/songs/playlist unless I'm at a complete stop. I've found that when I'm rolling at 2-3mph and am STILL locked out, im having to unplug my phone and look down at it to simply change playlist. When I'm going down a freeway and I'm in stop and go traffic for 15-20miles and never actually coming to a completely stop, this can be beyond frustrating. Ultimately I think that driver safety should be the drivers responsibility, and not predetermined by a company. If a driver abuses technology, then the driver needs to be accountable. It's my mission to figure out how to disable that stupid driver attention lock.
What do I want it to do? I want more than an overglorified play/pause button. Seriously. Yes it shows the name of the song and allows me to go to the next track, previous track, pause/play, but beyond that, absolutely no control. Voxer is a VERY simple one touch app. You tap to start voxing, you tap to stop. That's it, super straight forward. NOT supported. I want to be able to browse firefox, fandango, and YouTube when I'm parked.
But ultimately, I want the Android experience with full fledged apps. Android Auto pretty much just commandeers the Hond aLink infotainment screen. So just allow straight screen mirroring. That's what I "want".
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To unlock the driver attention thing you need to hold the home, power, and source button for bout 10 seconds then click on the detail information & setting screen and from there hold home button again for 10 seconds and then click on the vehicle model information and turn off the DD VSP ERROR and that should do it. However everytime you turn off your car it resets and you have to do it all over again.