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the battery life on the raphael is a bit.. odd. Before I had this phone, i had the Sidekick LX, which was able to last about 12-14 hours and it didnt really matter how much I used it. The data on the sidekick is on all the time, but it is Edge.
However, using the ATT Fuze (raphael variant), I am a bit happy, and yet, a bit upset at the battery life. First, if i do not have data on, the battery lasts extremely long. Its been more than 12 hours, and i am at 85%. I had minimum web browsing, made a few phone calls, and talked for about an hour. Oh and i have email updates every 2 hours. Thats pretty remarkable for a smart phone.
BUT, if i am to browse the internet, listen to internet radio, or have an instant messaging program open, the battery drains at least 10% every hour! Thats horrendous! What is the point of a 3g smart phone if i cannot really use it because the battery will die if i do?
Hmm, I have hammered my phone the past few days with texts email, phone calls, messaging and some light video usage. It lasted about 10 - 14 hours and I charged it once a night. I have been pretty pleased with it.
I leave data on all the time and it will download my RSS feeds every 2 hours pictures and all, weather will update etc so its always using something. With normal usage and the always on stuff I have had it last about 2.5 - 3 days making very short and few calls.
With the screen being on, data going and all of the other stuff it saps the battery fairly well. I wish battery tech would advance a little to make it last longer but its better than my last phone by a good amount.
Have you made any of the power saving tweaks from that thread to your phone? You should be able to squeeze some more juice out of it.
There are several Raphael power tweaks on this forum, I would find them for you but am about to go to bed and am really tired. One I remember is you can put a disconnect time on the data using diamond tweak so it disconnects from data quickly when your not using it and saves battery. Sorry for not eing fo more help.
Did you condition your battery when you got the phone? That can help with you battery life sometimes.
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the battery life on the raphael is a bit.. odd. Before I had this phone, i had the Sidekick LX, which was able to last about 12-14 hours and it didnt really matter how much I used it. The data on the sidekick is on all the time, but it is Edge.
However, using the ATT Fuze (raphael variant), I am a bit happy, and yet, a bit upset at the battery life. First, if i do not have data on, the battery lasts extremely long. Its been more than 12 hours, and i am at 85%. I had minimum web browsing, made a few phone calls, and talked for about an hour. Oh and i have email updates every 2 hours. Thats pretty remarkable for a smart phone.
BUT, if i am to browse the internet, listen to internet radio, or have an instant messaging program open, the battery drains at least 10% every hour! Thats horrendous! What is the point of a 3g smart phone if i cannot really use it because the battery will die if i do?
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I have the phone for about 6 weeks and really didn't have too many problems with battery life until I bought a stereo BT headset and started using it in the last week or so. I had the battery literally drain to nothingness twice this week already in a matter of hours. And no, it wasn't off hook or on Wifi or left playing something. One time it was actually plugged in to a USB charger!
Do you use an A2DP headset or leave your BT active?
Dont get me wrong guys. I am aware the battery does drain when i do use it. Yes, i did do the most tweaking i could possibly have done to lengthen my battery life, but lets face it, streaming youtube videos through the youtube app will drain the battery 10% an hour.
The one thing that gets to me is why instant messaging programs drain the battery as fast as youtube streaming.
I did not make this thread to ask for help though, just contributing my 2 cents to my experience with the Raphael.
10% an hour??? Howd you fit a powerplant in your phone?? My battery drops to 50% in 20-30mins if I watch youtube movies. Are you watching in HQ?
well maybe more than 10% but definitely not 50% in 20 minutes lol.
My battery seems decent, I conditioned it by draining it to 1% and charging it to 100%, draining to 1% charging to 100% etc for the first few cycles. Basically I didn't charge it until it was drained. It doesn't hurt to condition, but I think it's just superstition by now, many people say modern Li-On batteries aren't supposed to have memory.
There are several threads about battery life around here already, no need to start a new one.
Is there any way to get this thing to last over 10 hours with moderate/medium usage? I mean I hate to compare, but I was able to use my iphone 4 hard periodically through the day and be at 40% around midnight, but I have to stay using my captivate very lightly after about 10pm, and I usually unplug around 12 to 1pm..
I don't want to have to sacrifice majors perks of why I switched to android just to get a full day out of it. I've tried a lot of the suggestions I'm the forums, but nothing makes a notice difference, or makes it a fame changer as to where I'll get a full day of moderate internet/media usage
Thanks in advance.
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Have you tried draining and recharging the battery as other threads have suggested? I usually unplug around 9-10am and I don't get battery warning until near midnight or later.
I keep seeing people complain about the battery life constantly.. but to me coming from my bb bold it seems that the battery is lasting way longer then i expected.. first couple charges i let the phone drain down till it shut off, and then charged it 100%.. its still new to me so im constantly playing with it and changing the menus around.. i try to make sure almost everything is closed when im not using it.. cause im sure that eats battery life..
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Have you tried draining and recharging the battery as other threads have suggested? I usually unplug around 9-10am and I don't get battery warning until near midnight or later.
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I did it once, but I booted back up the phone a few minutes after I plugged it in, will leaving it off while it does a full 100% charge noticeably increase battery life?
Do you have widgets updating frequently? How frequently? Maybe just too many updating widgets. I get about 18 hours with the screen on for 4.
18 hours also
I'm getting 16-18 hours of use with about 4-5 hours of screen time. Better than expected.
Today I used my phone as much as I used my iPhone 4 on a regular basis. My phone has been off the charger for just over 12 hours and I have 70% of my battery left.
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I'm getting 16-18 hours of use with about 4-5 hours of screen time. Better than expected.
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I'm around that too, I use a black background to save power and I have about 5-6 hours of screen time and I watch a movie on it every day (treadmill at the gym)
I only get low battery around midnight
I use advanced task killer and set it to when the screen is off to kill apps, aggressive mode, I can go about 20hrs before I need to recharge. 5-6hrs screen time.
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Is there any way to get this thing to last over 10 hours with moderate/medium usage? I mean I hate to compare, but I was able to use my iphone 4 hard periodically through the day and be at 40% around midnight, but I have to stay using my captivate very lightly after about 10pm, and I usually unplug around 12 to 1pm..
I don't want to have to sacrifice majors perks of why I switched to android just to get a full day out of it. I've tried a lot of the suggestions I'm the forums, but nothing makes a notice difference, or makes it a fame changer as to where I'll get a full day of moderate internet/media usage
Thanks in advance.
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One thing about android is it has true multitasking. Combined with some apps which do NOT close properly and continue to use up CPU this can drain your batter very fast.
In the battery Info your TimeSpentAwake should be ~ the same as Display on time. If not something is not closing properly. Use OSMonitor to check which program it is and either uninstall it or make sure to kill it with task killer after using.
I have the M110S (Korean Galaxy S - I get 16-18 Hrs with moderate use, but M110S comes w/ 2 batteries so i just swap )
Yeah based on people who are getting good battery life mine is absolutely terrible. I am on my fourth full discharge. I have had my phone off the charger for 2 hours and I'm already at 87 percent. I listened to about 45 minutes of cached slacker radio and like 2 posts on xda app
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My battery went down 2 percent just posting that last post
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I think I am going to have the phone switched out at best buy today
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Just to comment on my battery life. I got my phone saturday (2.5 days ago) and its been on the whole time with medium usage. When I got the phone the pamphlet inside said "fully charge before you turn on" and thats what I did. My battery is at 41% and the only time that I have charged it since is when I am connecting it to my PC for a very short amount of time. I have had great battery life so it is possible. I am very impressed with it.
Yes...my battery life has been good...
Screen brightness all the way down (auto brightness off) *same for the browser brightness
Screen timeout 15 secs (annoying sometimes so maybe 30 secs)
No window animations
Power saving mode off (no point in having the lcd adjust if its already as low as it will go)
I also dont have any widgets that update in the background, however i'd imagine one or two wouldnt affect the battery much
These settings have worked out for me and i use the phone moderately with 2 hourly updating email accounts.....
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Battery life for me has been decent. I consider myself a moderate user and I can go from 7:30am till I go to bed at night without dying, but its close. Coming from an iPhone 2G, where with the same usage I could get 2-3 days on one charge, its a little disappointing. But it is what it is I guess. I have heard horror stories of EVO's only going 4-6 hours on a full charge, thats ridiculous.
But what gets me is all this nonsense about fully discharging before charging back up every time. These are Li-ion batteries, they are not Ni-cads, they will not get a "memory" if you dont fully discharge every time. Yes, its good the very first time, to fully charge it before using it, but after that, it doesnt really matter.
Also, one more thing I noticed. The phone will stop charging the battery the second its fully charged. So if your phone reaches 100% charge at like 2am, it stops charging at 2am and you are then going from 2am till whenever you take it off charge in the morning. I noticed this the other day. As soon as the phone told me it was fully charged, the battery icon turned into a normal battery icon even though it was still plugged in. So its possible that the phone is going for 4, 5, 6 hours off charge before you even wake up. What I do to make sure I'm at 100% when I leave, is when I get up I unplug it, use it for a minute then put back on charge while showering. Then when I leave for work, I know its fully charged at 100%.
I guess I'll be switching out phones at Best Buy today as well. Phone keeps losing 30-40% overnight (more like 5 hours max since I'm a night owl) even with everything turned off. When I do get back to a 90% charge before I leave for work at 8am, I'm usually left with 30-40% by 5pm after 15 texts or so and a few emails.
I am fairly sure all new batteries have a chip in them that regulates the power. So you HAVE to run it down to 0-5% and charge it back too 100% several times before the battery is even calibrated for use. That has to be why its 50/50 battery sucks battery is great, just let it drain and charge it again.
battery life simply not acceptable
Hey guys,
I know many people post on battery life.
Here is my situation.
I do not care about beauty, but functionality is a must.
I am in the hospital from ca 6am to 7Pm and I have Q4 call meaning every fourth night its to midnight. That is simply a fact of my life.
My requirement:
I need my phone to last for this duration without recharge.
1.)
I don't need or use widgets
2.)
I don't need or use a wallpaper other than a solid black background.
I do need and use:
the GSM radio and wifi both need to run the entire time and reception is what it is.
My applications of use:
merck manual, dynamed, epocrates the usual in my boat.
I really really want to use this phone, but battery life wise only my blackberry with extended battery and my iphone 4 can hack it.
If any of you have any suggestions on what I could do plz let me know. My last resort is carrying two batteries, but that would frankly be admitting that this phone is inferior to the iphone 4 which can hack a 20 hour usage day in my setting.
(I absolutely cannot turn wifi or 3G off both must run)
I am open to all suggestions including the task killr controversy or anything else constructive one may have. Any extended size batteries out there for the captivate?
Thanks a bunch in advance.
(Having had my secretary spend 4 hours rooting the phone and sideloading Merck manual is a testament to the pathetic entity that is AT&T by the way. If you have professional apps from an institutional subscription you cannot download the software from the market...)
PS: My secretary is not exactly a hacker so forgive the 4 hour timeframe.
I consider myself to be a heavy user!! I like to text, browse the web, listen to music (either from my own files or streaming,) check email and comment on facebook all throughout the day. I did that perfectly fine with my Bold 9700, that battery lasted a full day or more.
I had an iPhone 4 and my battery would not last my 8 hour work shift!! I either had a bad battery or who knows what was going on with that phone. I didn't even leave the apps running...the phone was nice, but that battery killed it for me. I don't understand how some people got a full day out of it.
On the Captivate the most I have gotten has been around 10 hours of use and that's not even using it how I normally like to. I stop charging it at 8:30 and my battery is 100% around 10am I'm already in my low 90's or upper 80's. I don't have any widgets updating, I have a black wallpaper, I don't have the haptic feedback on, and I sync email hourly.
Could my battery be bad?? How can some of you manage to get 16 or so hours out of it??
I am at 30% battery. I have made 4 minutes of voice calls today. The settings app shows voice calls taking 10% battery. Is this normal? Is the settings app battery use pane accurate?
I agree. I made four calls totaling 25 minutesone after the other. I went from a full charge to 80%. That's only 2 1/2 hours talk time.
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I talked for 90 mins straight and my battery went from 98 to 72.
Some ppl have been saying the issue is with manufacture date but mine is from july 5th so dont think thats the issue. I did notice battery life get better after one week of usage.
Not sure if this is your issue, but the weaker your signal strength is the more battery you will use talking.
Both the signal strength and how you have been charging your phone will impact battery life.
If you have not been allowing your phone to reach near zero percent left and you charge it...or if you leave it plugged in unnecessarily then the battery hasn't had a chance to know what a full charge is.
And as discussed in other posts...the weaker the signal...the quicker the battery will drain.
Just some ideas.....
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I have completely drained the battery 3 times and charged it to full. That should be enough to break in a lithium ion battery. I don't get great signal here. I get two to three bars. That isn't a good excuse for the battery drain I'm experiencing though. No other smart phone I have owned has used this much battery power for voice calls.
It seems like everything I do causes the battery to drain excessively. Just posting on her I lose 3to4%
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I was draining my battery last night, so when the battery hit 5% I made a call to my wife's phone and set it down.. 25minutes later the phone finally died.. So needless to say, going by that time alone that is pretty good talk time... I was also trying to speed up the battery drain and doing some web browsing and market browsing as well..
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I was draining my battery last night, so when the battery hit 5% I made a call to my wife's phone and set it down.. 25minutes later the phone finally died.. So needless to say, going by that time alone that is pretty good talk time... I was also trying to speed up the battery drain and doing some web browsing and market browsing as well..
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She talked to herself for 25 minutes? Sounds about right.
Is anyone that is having battery issues running Adao Task Manager and Battery Status Pro?
I just factory reset my phone and I got 24hours of batter life. About 8 standby but a good deal of texting, web, some calls and some you tube.
I installed Task Manager and Batter Status Pro last night and my battery this morning went down 15% in about 1hr.
I uninstalled these today and will post again but has anyone else seen big battery drain from these apps or does anyone that is having issues running something similar?
I have been playing with the battery for about a week now.
For me this phone runs pretty good during stand-by. I would have about 2-3% drop for a whole night (7 to 8 hrs), with Google (push), Twitter and weather syncing.
The problem is when you use it, it drops like crazy. When I read news or surf the web, it would drop 1% every 1 or 2 min.
This morning I read an ebook, with black background for about 30 min, it dropped about 3%.
So basically i think the screen, data connection, and non-black background are the ones that kill the battery.
Yea, I agree, the S-AMOLED screen in this thing is an energy hog. OLED's are supposed to be more energy efficient than typical LCD's but I'm just not seeing it. Whenever I look at battery usage stats it shows the display at 70-75% of battery usage. Thats ridiculous. I have until the 18th, but I'm quickly leaning towards returning this and just getting an iphone4. This phone is becoming more and more disappointing the longer I have it.
This morning I have been uplugged 4.75hrs and used 16% no battery monitor and no app killer. Basically done the same things I did yesterday. Some Bebbled,texting, email, phone calls .
I will update tomorrow with total hours battery life for today. Would be happy if I can replicate the 24hours I got the day before installing those apps.
I got like 45 hours of battery with moderate usage during the two days. Seems fine to me, I occasionally used system panel to monitor if anything was using high and constant CPU
This is pretty typical of a 1ghz phone My nexus would last a day of heavy usage, 2 days if i use it lightly. We need to wait for undervolted kernels to be developed xD
Also, it really helps if you disable 3G when you don't use it. This allows me to get 3-4 days of light usage out of my nexus. I haven't played with the Captivate long enough to know how much of a difference this makes on this phone though
when you guys refer to "stand by", what exactly do you mean? Just screen off/phone idle? The battery usage on my phone when I use it seems to be OK even if not amazing, but it continues to sap life from the battery when I'm using it at an alarming rate.
Standby is when the phone is idle/screen off/locked.
The display is definitely power hungry. Using the Power Control widget that comes installed definitely has helped with battery life. It will let you toggle WiFi, BT, GPS, Data Sync, and Brightness (at 3 levels). When I'm not using anyone of those, I turn it off. When I'm indoors, I'll set the brightness to the lowest level. I'm usually at my desk when I'm streaming music, so I'll have it plugged in.
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Yea, I agree, the S-AMOLED screen in this thing is an energy hog. OLED's are supposed to be more energy efficient than typical LCD's but I'm just not seeing it. Whenever I look at battery usage stats it shows the display at 70-75% of battery usage. Thats ridiculous. I have until the 18th, but I'm quickly leaning towards returning this and just getting an iphone4. This phone is becoming more and more disappointing the longer I have it.
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Actually they are more energy efficient on black screens, But screens with a lot of white in them suck battery bad.
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Actually they are more energy efficient on black screens, But screens with a lot of white in them suck battery bad.
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This is true the white screens burn the battery etc. I just wanted to let everyone know what I did to make my battery last more that 24hrs.
First, read the Wiki guide and apply some of the battery saving tips.
Second, UNINSTALL a program called "gReader" created by noinnion. This program is a huge battery hog! At least it was for me.
Hope this helps.
Well I guess I am one of the "lucky ones" Im running a live wallpaper and have not run my battery down since the 1st day. Right now Im at 40% life and at 15 Hrs 30m since unplugged. This is with checking facebook, twitter, email, phone calls, internet browsing\video watching and following the steps for the GPS fix. The only thing I have done is install ATK on the phone, besides that its all stock.
One thing I know is a huge battery drain is Time without Service. Check that stat and see if you have anytime at all without service, if so, I am pointing to that as a major drain on the battery. I know currently I have 0% Time without signal, my fiancee however is usually in the 20+% range and her battery drains like many reports I have seen here (she has an EVO).....
Yesterday I only managed 16 hours. Web, Email, A bluetooth file transfer, short bit of gaming. I have about 5% of the cell standby time (26%) without signal. My girlfriend has the Aria which is running Android 2.1 also, has all sorts of widgets, haptic feedback on and can make it at least 24 hours. I get that it has a smaller screen but it is also an LCD. Shouldn't the Super Amoled be saving our battery some display consumption.
i get about 14 hours or so moderate usage and at the end of the day, i have about 35% left at night.
If you detail the "Display" usage in the battery usage details how many minutes has your screen been on? Mine says 1hour 2mins ...this is for 8 hours of running time. My display is using 50% of the battery (which is at 68% now).
W00t W00t today I have reached a new high 2 Days 6 hours and 29 minuts with 12% battery left.....
What I have found is keeping Wifi on while I am at work and home like almost doubled my battery life. Which is great that I can use Wifi all day and not drain the battery so fast like my Fuze. Right now been off charger since 7:30am and I have 84% left. Yesterday after 9 hours I was still over 50%. For me its better than any other smartphone I have owened.
I used manual brightness, (swipe notification bar), turn off GPS/BT. black wallpaper and set Wifi to never sleep. Also the power saving mode in settings is off for other reason and doesn't affect battery.
At 18% right now and it's been off the charger for about 30 hours. I noticed yesterday that while I was connected to wifi at home (with Y5 app), it was draining faster than when I was connected to 3g. Did some tested back and forth and JuicePlotter clearly had a noticeably steeper downward slope for when wifi was connected than when it was using 3g. Weird :\
anyone feel as if their battery life sucks? I do have 4g on at all times but I didnt think it would make that big of a difference in terms of battery life.
See my post here:
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Try installing a monitoring app and see if your init process is hitting the CPU hard. I haven't heard from any other mt4g users with the same problem, but lots of.desirehd users have it.
I also have seen my suspend process eating 50%+ CPU when the phone is locked/screen off. Haven't found a fix for that yet though.
I'm getting a full 24 hours of heavy texting, moderate phone calls. Battery life is better than my magic... im having no issues.
Yes, I woke up this morning and my phone was already blinking and battery is on 8%. I left it overnight with more then 60%
A big problem also is that SetCpu cannot force the scale. If limit to 768 Mhz it still scale to 1024. So not I am sure that my ScreenOff profile with 245 Mhz DOESN'T WORK!
THAT'S SUX!!!
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Yes, I woke up this morning and my phone was already blinking and battery is on 8%. I left it overnight with more then 60%
A big problem also is that SetCpu cannot force the scale. If limit to 768 Mhz it still scale to 1024. So not I am sure that my ScreenOff profile with 245 Mhz DOESN'T WORK!
THAT'S SUX!!!
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Weird I leave my phone at full overnight and its still at full when I wake up.
Try disabling the preflock that might help before I did that it wasnt scaling properly now afterwards it is.
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I have frozen a few apps and use advanced task killer every time i start up 9a lot of apps come on at start-up).
The result is pretty good battery life. I have only gone dead when I had a few apps (like GPS navigation) running in background and forgot about them.
I'm having 0 issues with my battery. It easily beats out the battery life on the Samsung Vibrant I had.
I'm having issues too. My battery life today was 40% at 1 PM, and when I left this morning, it was full. I hardly even used the phone except to check email :/ I have brightness on auto and wifi off. Not sure what the issue is.
My battery life has been really good. A typical cycle is charge to full and disconnect power at 10:00 pm. Up at 6:00 AM, battery is still on 100%. Today my use has been moderate to heavy. It's now 2:30 PM and I have 68% left. I typically have around 30 percent left when I put in back on the charger. I'm happy with that.
Wifi, Bluetooth, GPS, etc., are kept off until I use them. I do however leave Background data and Auto-sync on all the time.
I turned on USB Debugging as recommended and my battery life is much better. Right now it hasn't been charged in 9 hours and is at 79%. I've downloaded 2 apps, updated 3 apps, sent multiple emails, light internet use, and 3-4 calls. I'm unrooted and don't use any task killers.
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I turned on USB Debugging as recommended and my battery life is much better. Right now it hasn't been charged in 9 hours and is at 79%. I've downloaded 2 apps, updated 3 apps, sent multiple emails, light internet use, and 3-4 calls. I'm unrooted and don't use any task killers.
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That's awesome. I'm going to turn on USB Debugging mode and see if I can squeeze a little more juice out of it.
I have had intermittent battery-drain issues too. On Saturday morning my battery went from 100 down to 76% in a matter of an hour or two with hardly any use. I did a restart and it seemed better. I've also gotten into the habit of restarting my phone once a day, right before I take it off the charger in the morning. I've turned off quick boot, which I read somewhere in the forums can affect battery life. It's been pretty good the last few days. I'm at 68% now off charger for 9.5 hrs with moderate amounts of wifi, web browsing, email, and 3G network usage. I'm new to android devices so I don't have much to compare that to, but it's working for my schedule.
heavy user - fully charged phone at 7am ... start using after 7:30am
check emails, fb, txt, barely to no calls.....phone will be down to about 20% at 1:30~2pm....
yes the battery is lame...but this is a known issue with HTC...the 3.8 screen drains a lot of battery also the constantly searching for HSPA+ and 3G...
I do notice when screen is off....this phone still drains battery !!! bad =(
left over night at about 65% left in the morning I got red blinking led saying phone is below 10% .... 50% gone!!!
I think restarting the phone after a full charge is a good idea....also maybe turn off quick boot?
*update* yes I found that when you have a bad signal and it's jumping between E and H ... this eats up battery
also installed Advance Task Killer (for froyo) this helps~ now from 8am my phone can last until about 4pm getting about 3~3.5hrs more life
Mine lasts all day with everything on, playing games, email, text, etc, etc.
It is great, best phone I have had. Not sure what the issue is unless it is root.
It depends where you live.
If you get a good antenna signal, your battery will last.
At my apartment signal is low, so phone is constantly between UMTS and GPRS, plus phone is trying to hold H, so that drains the battery.
My signal strength parameters:
between -101 dBm and -107 dBm (where -110dBm is the edge of the signal/loosing signal)
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