[Q] root and than sideload? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just rooted my Nexus 5 using a toolkit that was provided. I am successfully rooted but I am still on Android 4.4 because I still have not recieved the update for 4.4.1 yet. Now that I am rooted, it is possible for me to sideload 4.4.1 on my phone. Do I just have to download the stock 4.4.1 image and than put it in the folder for my phone on my computer and than go into recovery and install it or is there any other necessary procedures I have to take. Also can you please provide me with a link to a stock 4.4.1 stock image file. Also will I lose all my data. How can I backup my whole setup, which includes all my apps, widgets, and uccw skins. Also I want all of my apps and widgets to be there on my home screen just where I left them before sideloading the stock 4.4.1 image.

This will answer all your questions. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47369234
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[Q] Stuck at Google logo!

Hi!
I rooted my Nexus few months back from now with Fastboot recovery. I got my Android ICS update 4.0.4 last week, I tried downloading it, I downloaded it, then it said rebooting for install. But my Nexus S freezes at Google logo with my unlocked lock sign. I have tried installing it many times, but all in vein.
Please somebody help!
nixhead said:
Hi!
I rooted my Nexus few months back from now with Fastboot recovery. I got my Android ICS update 4.0.4 last week, I tried downloading it, I downloaded it, then it said rebooting for install. But my Nexus S freezes at Google logo with my unlocked lock sign. I have tried installing it many times, but all in vein.
Please somebody help!
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If you're rooted, why dont you just use the rooted method to install the update. Someone made the update flashable. Its in the development section.
either way, pull the battery to see if you still have your recovery(volume up and power button)... if so, then restore to your latest restored point, hoping that you did make a backup
Then download the newest ICS update and just flash it the rooted way.
But if you insist on the official, unroot and then get the update via stock recovery method
good luck
Are you using the latest version of CWM?
If you've got a modified system image (including root), you should not use official upgrade packages. If you want to update the rooted system, you can use unofficial packages (in CWM). To boot a system, please start your recovery and flash a proper (4.0.4, unrooted or rooted, signed or unsigned) system image. If you erase the data partition all of your data is lost!
If you have stock recovery, then only signed images can be flashed. To be able to flash unsigned images you'll need CWM, which can be flashed through fastboot.
By the way official firmware can be downloaded from Google. Important! All of your data (including USB storage area) will be lost after the full upgrade with fastboot!

[Q] OTA update for Rooted

I unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone. Installed CWM and TWRP recovery on my one s. I have not made any other changes/tweaks to system setting other then this. Will I be able to install JB OTA (when ever its available) on my phone. Sorry if the question is redundant, tried to search in existing forum threads but couldn't find answer.
Thanks
No. You need to flash the stock recovery. Otherwise you will see the update, but won't be able to flash it. Using the stock recovery allows you to install the OTA.

Unroot and update to Lollipop without stock recovery

Hello,
I have a rooted Verizon HTC One M8 running on Android 4.4.2. I do not have the stock recovery and for some reason I am unable to flash CWM, so I am stuck with TWRP. I keep receiving notifications that Lollipop is available to install, but it fails each time I try to install it because I am rooted. How can I unroot and get back to my stock ROM so that I can install the update?
No need to update via OTA. Just follow the instructions here and you'll be on rooted 5.0.1 stock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...u-m8vzw-5-0-1-s-off-onlynewest-t3047103/page3
Questions
Thank you for the reply. Are you 100% sure this is compatible/will work with my phone? If I flash the ROM and it doesn't work, can I simply flash a backup image I made to recover? And when I flash the ROM, will I lose all the data on my phone? Also, where may I download my stock recovery? I searched all over the internet and couldn't find one for the Verizon version of the HTC One M8.
Thank you
That RUU is a complete stock firmware package, including the recovery. Read the OP.
But if you're just looking for the stock recovery you can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52017763
That alone won't let you take the OTA though. If you modified your stock rom the OTA will fail.
You can find a complete stock rom elsewhere here on XDA, but why the trouble if you have it all in one neat package with the RUU?
Thank you very much for the help and useful information.
Sorry to bother you with all the questions but I have one more. How do I make a backup of my stock recovery? Say I went out and bought a new phone, how would I backup that stock recovery?
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What is the most stable stock OS? Kitkat or Lollipop?

What is the most stable stock android version? Kitkat or Lollipop?
My phone is currently on NE9 and want to optimize my phone to be the best with what's out now, especially since development will be dwindling. It seems that Lollipop does not run too well (high battery usage?), according to what I see on the threads. Without any input, I would update to NK2 and then towelroot. However, would anyone recommend me updating to BOK3 or BPB1?
GoodLooks550 said:
What is the most stable stock android version? Kitkat or Lollipop?
My phone is currently on NE9 and want to optimize my phone to be the best with what's out now, especially since development will be dwindling. It seems that Lollipop does not run too well (high battery usage?), according to what I see on the threads. Without any input, I would update to NK2 and then towelroot. However, would anyone recommend me updating to BOK3 or BPB1?
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They're both stable, but we do see a lot of complaints about lollipop battery life.
Try it for yourself. Just stick with jrkruse's stock lollipop images that don't update the bootloader past BOD5, or any ROM that specifically does not update the bootloader. Then you can easily downgrade back to kitkat if you decide you don't like it.
painiac said:
They're both stable, but we do see a lot of complaints about lollipop battery life.
Try it for yourself. Just stick with jrkruse's stock lollipop images that don't update the bootloader past BOD5, or any ROM that specifically does not update the bootloader. Then you can easily downgrade back to kitkat if you decide you don't like it.
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Thanks, painiac! I used your guide to get up to date with the S5, btw--things are very different from what I remember in the S4 world.
Anyway, after rooting and installing safestrap, if i were to flash jrkruse’s BPB1 Rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/vzwstock-based-tw-rom-3-4-16-t3329029), I would install the rom, safestrap fix, patch (optional), and BPB1_Firmware_No_Bootloaders.zip. Anything else to add?
This set up would allow me to go back to kit kat by installing a jrkruse kit kat rom and related firmware w/o bootloader?
GoodLooks550 said:
Thanks, painiac! I used your guide to get up to date with the S5, btw--things are very different from what I remember in the S4 world.
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Glad I could be of service. I came here just a few months ago from an S3. Imagine my disgust and shock... That was actually the impetus for writing that guide, because there's so much to have to learn and I'd just finished researching the crap out of it all for myself in a short amount of time.
GoodLooks550 said:
Anyway, after rooting and installing safestrap, if i were to flash jrkruse’s BPB1 Rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/vzwstock-based-tw-rom-3-4-16-t3329029), I would install the rom, safestrap fix, patch (optional), and BPB1_Firmware_No_Bootloaders.zip. Anything else to add?
This set up would allow me to go back to kit kat by installing a jrkruse kit kat rom and related firmware w/o bootloader?
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Nothing else to add, I think you got it. That no bootloaders firmware file you selected is the important one.
jrkruse says you can still run kitkat ROMs even if you're stuck with Lollipop, but I haven't tried it yet. Staying with the BOD5 or earlier bootloader actually allows you to flash KitKat stock image files with Odin, which you cannot do without bricking if you've updated your bootloader to BOE1 or later. I like this because the KitKat root process is a lot less problematic than the new Lollipop root method; but more importantly, you can freely upgrade to Lollipop with BOD5 bootloader (modified) stock Odin images, and then you can freely downgrade with stock KitKat Odin images.
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Glad I could be of service. I came here just a few months ago from an S3. Imagine my disgust and shock... That was actually the impetus for writing that guide, because there's so much to have to learn and I'd just finished researching the crap out of it all for myself in a short amount of time.
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I was lucky to have my an S4 MDK (unlocked bl), so things were much simpler back then--had an S3, as well. In the process of getting my S5 running the way I wanted, the use of safestrap was completely new to me. Thankfully, some heavy browsing of the forums got me through. I did not use flashfire, which would have been something else to learn!
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Nothing else to add, I think you got it. That no bootloaders firmware file you selected is the important one.
jrkruse says you can still run kitkat ROMs even if you're stuck with Lollipop, but I haven't tried it yet. Staying with the BOD5 or earlier bootloader actually allows you to flash KitKat stock image files with Odin, which you cannot do without bricking if you've updated your bootloader to BOE1 or later. I like this because the KitKat root process is a lot less problematic than the new Lollipop root method; but more importantly, you can freely upgrade to Lollipop with BOD5 bootloader (modified) stock Odin images, and then you can freely downgrade with stock KitKat Odin images.
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Thank you--your replies and guide were gold in terms of figuring it all out.
For onlookers of this thread, once you get to lollipop, it's hard to go back to kitkat. A lot of the small details really add up to an improved user experience. Also, having an s7 edge, the PB1 build on the S5 has 90% of the same functionality of the S7e--excluding edge-related features, of course.
To summarize my upgrade experience:
Root from any kitkat rom: Flash the NCG kernel in odin (AP/PDA), reboot and root with towelroot apk, and then install and update supersu; and lastly re-flash the NE9 kernel.
Install Hashcode's version of Safestrap: Install busybox apk. Install safestrap apk (version 3.75). Make sure to use a microsd card for installation, as recommended.
Install PB1 rom: (source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/vzwstock-based-tw-rom-3-4-16-t3329029). Reboot into SS. Flash G900V_Fix Safestrap.zip. Reboot into SS. Flash:
VZW_BPB1_ODEX_DEODEX_V9.zip,
Extra_toggles.zip (optional),
BPB1_Firmware_No_Bootloaders.zip , and
G900V_PB1_Stock_KERNEL_SafeStrap-Flashable.zip.
Flash all in a single queue. Reboot into download mode and flash G900V_OD5_Bootloader.tar.md5 in odin. Reboot. Wait. (NOTE: for more customization, before installing rom, unzip rom. Edit the options.prop in text editor to your likeing. Rezip original contents with updated options.prop. Flash this zip as the rom file)
To get back into safestrap/recovery: Make sure hashcode's version of safestrap is installed. A lollipop safestrap will be installed--don't use it. Also, install NI2Flasher.apk (this flashes a kitkat kernel, which will allow you to get back into the kitkat safestrap). Reboot into safestrap. IMPORTANT: When complete with whatever is being done in SS, flash G900V_PB1_Stock_KERNEL_SafeStrap-Flashable.zip to get back into lollipop rom.
Install xpose modules: This allows the essential greenify app (HIGHLY RECOMMENDED) to run to maximum potential. Gather following files:
1. APK: Xposed Installer 3.0 alpha4 (comes with some roms)
2. Flash in SS: Framework: xposed-v75-sdk21-arm-arter97-snapdragon.zip
3. Flash in SS: Uninstaller: xposed-uninstaller-arter97.zip
Since the rom I installed did not come with xposed installed. I flashed the framework in SS (look above to properly access and leave SS). Reboot. Install the APK. Reboot. Highly recommend installing Wanam's modules for lollipop--tons of modifications.
Unbrick: Get into download mode and flash: Full Wipe G900V_Downgrade_to_NCG.tar . (This helped me a ton until I realized that safestrap for the S5 does not work with rom-slots. Use the stock slot to do all flashing)
I gathered all this information from various threads, and hope this helps (highly recommend reviewing painiac's guide before starting anything - http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/guide-painiacs-essential-guide-to-t3319848). I am no expert, but this is what worked for me--please correct me if I'm wrong at any step. I believe the way I set this up, I should be able to get back to a kitkat rom, if I ever wanted to (easiest way to do this would be to flash the unbrick file). I hope this can help at least one person, since I know I'm not the only person to recently get an S5 due to someone else in the family upgrading to the S7.
Need some guidance in setting up root and Rom on my s5. Never done this before on a Verizon phone so if anyone can help I'd appreciate it

Is there a way to revert custom ROM to stock and keep the phone rooted?

Also, how can I tell what were the previous versions of Android that my phone had (STOCK)?
For example: there were several 5.1.1 versions or 5.0. versions - how do I know which one do I need?
Thanks.
The easiest way to have a routed rom would be to flash a stock rom from Google, flash twrp, and flash supersu from twrp.
audit13 said:
The easiest way to have a routed rom would be to flash a stock rom from Google, flash twrp, and flash supersu from twrp.
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Sorry if I didn't explain myself - my phone is rooted and I have a custom ROM. What I want to do is to go back to stock ROM but keep it rooted.
Thanks.
Flash a stock rom, then just root the stock rom. There is no other way unless you flash a stock pre-rooted rom.
audit13 said:
Flash a stock rom, then just root the stock rom. There is no other way unless you flash a stock pre-rooted rom.
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So you can't keep it rooted while flashing stock?
And how do you know which versions are for your phone (if I don't want to go back to the latest Marshmallow for example)?
You can only keep root when flashing stock if you find a prerooted stock image.
Google search for nexus factory images.
audit13 said:
You can only keep root when flashing stock if you find a prerooted stock image.
Google search for nexus factory images.
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Yes, I know that I need to Google for factory image, but there are several images with the same release. For example, there are three 5.1.1. (LMY48B, LMY48I and LMY48M). Same with 6.0.0. and 4 X 6.0.1 version. How do you know which one is for my device?
Thanks.
Any stock image for hammerhead will work on a hammerhead device. The reason it will delete root is you will have to flash system, and unless the system image you flash is prerooted, no more root.
wangdaning said:
Any stock image for hammerhead will work on a hammerhead device. The reason it will delete root is you will have to flash system, and unless the system image you flash is prerooted, no more root.
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Thanks!
Just trying to understand that difference between the different versions, or are these simply system updates, from XXX29K to XXX29S for example?
Changes in the android version 5.0->5.1->6.0 are fairly large system updates. Within 5.1.1 they are security patches.
If you have a rooted phone and talk about flashing, you should know this. Else you are a menace to your phone...
Root is a system modification - if you delete or reinstall the System partition, you'll lose root. But re-root is easy.
I recommend to read tutorials and get some knowledge before trying to root, flash or before asking those questions, where Senior xda-members just shake their heads.
The simple way to do what you seem to want is to back up all your important stuff (photos, etc.), install MMB29V (the latest March 1st 6.0.1 security version), install TWRP 3.0.0.0, and from TWRP flash SuperSU v2.70. It will take slightly longer than it's taken me to type this, but not much...
After that, when a new monthly security version comes out, flash system.img, boot.img & radio.img, and repeat the TWRP & SuperSU steps. No data loss.

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