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Dear ROM Devs...

Thank you for all of your hard work on the D2. With the X, the competition is stiff, and it seems/feels like there are more of us that "ended up" with a D2 out of a warranty replacement than actually made the decision to buy one.
With that said, I am formally starting a bandwagon for an actual "stock" Android OS ROM. None of this color changing, applications because i like them, better home screen, etc., etc., stuff. I want to see an "actual" Android vanilla ROM for the D2.
I can't be the minority in this request.
I appreciate all of the work that you guys do, I really do. If I had the time to invest in this, I'd build the damn thing myself, but I dont, so I have to rely on you guys.
Thanks.

I'm on the bandwagon.

I believe doing this would require cracking m-shield/efuse in order to get a custom kernel in place, which to my knowledge hasn't been done, nor am I even sure if anyone is actively working on it.

psionicalpha said:
I believe doing this would require cracking m-shield/efuse in order to get a custom kernel in place, which to my knowledge hasn't been done, nor am I even sure if anyone is actively working on it.
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i'm not asking for a kernel. i'm asking the ROM developers to go stock with their approach as opposed to customizing. That's why i used quotes on "OS". I want a clean ROM that reflects as much as the actual Android OS as possible.

640k said:
i'm not asking for a kernel. i'm asking the ROM developers to go stock with their approach as opposed to customizing. That's why i used quotes on "OS". I want a clean ROM that reflects as much as the actual Android OS as possible.
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If you root your device you can clean out the stock rom yourself. Follow the remove bloatware guide. Once you clean it out you can install launcherpro which IMO is the best home replacement out there. I believe it will be some time before there is a vanilla rom for the d2. We will always need the dialer and a few other apps that are tied into other blur apps.

MotoBoy said:
If you root your device you can clean out the stock rom yourself. Follow the remove bloatware guide. Once you clean it out you can install launcherpro which IMO is the best home replacement out there. I believe it will be some time before there is a vanilla rom for the d2. We will always need the dialer and a few other apps that are tied into other blur apps.
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removing "bloat" doesn't cut it for me. i'm already running launcherpro without root and it gets me by. the ROM devs are working hard to bring things back to normal and they're doing a good job. i just don't want to have to pick between a broken phone icon and a black notification bar.
i'm not asking for miracles. i recognize that most of blur is limiting this activity. that's why i'm asking for just a clean ROM. as apks become available and more of blur can be replaced, the ROM will get better.

640k said:
i'm not asking for a kernel. i'm asking the ROM developers to go stock with their approach as opposed to customizing. That's why i used quotes on "OS". I want a clean ROM that reflects as much as the actual Android OS as possible.
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It is harder than you think. Moto modified many services that build with dependencies on the kernel. If we had access to Motos kernel source, then we could just build the vanilla rom directly with google source and be done. Since this is not currently an option, you need to have services that happen to be compatible with the kernal and Motos current structure which is also difficult. Its easy for simple apps that can be switched out like mail and such. But not everything is that easy to swap out. Pull and replace some services on your phone and your phone won't start, because an alternative will not work because the blur service is expressly called, or expected to function in a very "Moto way".
I don't think people are avoiding the stock approach because they don't want stock, I think it hasn't happened (yet) because Moto has made it difficult. Right now its like a Jenga tower. We keep pulling blocks to see which one won't cause the tower to fall. Pull the wrong one...oops we won't pull that one next time. If we could rebuild it from scratch, it would be much easier, because you could build it in the image you wanted opposed to doing surgery to mimic what you want.

facelessuser said:
It is harder than you think. Moto modified many services that build with dependencies on the kernel. If we had access to Motos kernel source, then we could just build the vanilla rom directly with google source and be done. Since this is not currently an option, you need to have services that happen to be compatible with the kernal and Motos current structure which is also difficult. Its easy for simple apps that can be switched out like mail and such. But not everything is that easy to swap out. Pull and replace some services on your phone and your phone won't start, because an alternative will not work because the blur service is expressly called, or expected to function in a very "Moto way".
I don't think people are avoiding the stock approach because they don't want stock, I think it hasn't happened (yet) because Moto has made it difficult. Right now its like a Jenga tower. We keep pulling blocks to see which one won't cause the tower to fall. Pull the wrong one...oops we won't pull that one next time. If we could rebuild it from scratch, it would be much easier, because you could build it in the image you wanted opposed to doing surgery to mimic what you want.
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this i get, and recognize. but if you read through current ROMs (all two of them), there ARE tweaks that i just don't want/agree with.
i dealt with this alot with WinMo and i've avoided putting ANY ROM on my D1. blur is so terrible, all i want is my D1 one back.. but in my D2's body.

I think these ROM developers simply have no choice but to do the tweaks they've done because Moto services can't just be taken out, they have to be replaced instead of the original so the phone would still work.
We just have to wait, time solves everything, even Moto

facelessuser said:
It is harder than you think. Moto modified many services that build with dependencies on the kernel. If we had access to Motos kernel source, then we could just build the vanilla rom directly with google source and be done. Since this is not currently an option, you need to have services that happen to be compatible with the kernal and Motos current structure which is also difficult. Its easy for simple apps that can be switched out like mail and such. But not everything is that easy to swap out. Pull and replace some services on your phone and your phone won't start, because an alternative will not work because the blur service is expressly called, or expected to function in a very "Moto way".
I don't think people are avoiding the stock approach because they don't want stock, I think it hasn't happened (yet) because Moto has made it difficult. Right now its like a Jenga tower. We keep pulling blocks to see which one won't cause the tower to fall. Pull the wrong one...oops we won't pull that one next time. If we could rebuild it from scratch, it would be much easier, because you could build it in the image you wanted opposed to doing surgery to mimic what you want.
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640k said:
this i get, and recognize. but if you read through current ROMs (all two of them), there ARE tweaks that i just don't want/agree with.
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Apparently you don't get it. As stated, stock Android will require the kernel source, which we don't have.
As a former Ion and Nexus One owner who flashed probably a hundred ROMs, I can honestly say Froyo and root is enough to make me happy. Many of the tweaks custom ROMs offered are now built in (they came from AOSP to begin with) and the hardware has advanced to the point that swapper and overclocking aren't necessary. Frankly I'm not sure what more you could want that isn't possible without root and launcher replacements.

640k said:
this i get, and recognize. but if you read through current ROMs (all two of them), there ARE tweaks that i just don't want/agree with.
i dealt with this alot with WinMo and i've avoided putting ANY ROM on my D1. blur is so terrible, all i want is my D1 one back.. but in my D2's body.
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I am like you. On my D1 I only used OEM ROMs that I modifed myself. I did the same to my D2 and it runs just like my D1. Their are only two differences. Backup assistant services is still running in the backgroud and I still have the messaging app. I removed all blur widgets and all the bloatware I don't need. If I can get rid of the backup assistant I would be very close to plain ROM. Once you remove everything you can safely you are not too far away from a vanilla ROM.

karnovaran said:
Apparently you don't get it. As stated, stock Android will require the kernel source, which we don't have and likely never will.
As a former Ion and Nexus One owner who flashed probably a hundred ROMs, I can honestly say Froyo and root is enough to make me happy. Many of the tweaks custom ROMs offered are now built in (they came from AOSP to begin with) and the hardware has advanced to the point that swapper and overclocking aren't necessary. Frankly I'm not sure what more you could want that isn't possible without root and launcher replacements.
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Well said. This is not my first android phone either. I have also used Cyanogen and others. Root is more than enough for me.
Back in the day, the custom Roms were pushing us into new territories, giving us features we didn't already have; that was why I wanted them. Now I have everything I need with stock and root. There are so many replacement launchers, lockscreens, etc. Going vanilla is just icing on the the cake; if it ever happens at all.
All of blur's UI flaws and app quirks hardly bug me much at all; I can happily live with them if I have to. Overall, the Droid 2 is a great phone as it is ( with root of course ).

I think i might get my head bitten off for this but id be happy with a stock deoxed rom with the stupid bloat apps removed.
I've come to like the blur widgets and features, well except for the contacts sync issue with facebook.

jerseyh22accord said:
I think i might get my head bitten off for this but id be happy with a stock deoxed rom with the stupid bloat apps removed.
I've come to like the blur widgets and features, well except for the contacts sync issue with facebook.
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If you goto droidforums.net and in the Xeudoxus ROM section you will see the xultimate thread which is what you need to deodex a rom yourself. If you have the android sdk installed already it is not much work to do. Just follow the instructions and read through the thread for problems that may pop up.

karnovaran said:
Apparently you don't get it. As stated, stock Android will require the kernel source, which we don't have.
As a former Ion and Nexus One owner who flashed probably a hundred ROMs, I can honestly say Froyo and root is enough to make me happy. Many of the tweaks custom ROMs offered are now built in (they came from AOSP to begin with) and the hardware has advanced to the point that swapper and overclocking aren't necessary. Frankly I'm not sure what more you could want that isn't possible without root and launcher replacements.
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apparently you don't get it.
you're not reading what i'm asking. there are ROM devs out now, doing the work. they can debloat and use as many stock apps as possible (or as available). i'm not asking for miracles. i'm asking devs not to customize what they're doing.
i'm asking for standard looks, not black themes. i'm asking for stock apps, where possible. i'm asking for it to work.
don't come in here and thread crap because you don't understand what i'm saying/asking.

MotoBoy said:
If you goto droidforums.net and in the Xeudoxus ROM section you will see the xultimate thread which is what you need to deodex a rom yourself. If you have the android sdk installed already it is not much work to do. Just follow the instructions and read through the thread for problems that may pop up.
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I know, i did it before i ran 928droid's theme and epic's rom to change the text to white in the notification bar. Lost it when i restored my nandroid of stock but i could do it again. Just saying if i flash a rom i want it deoxed

I am working on this. Please just wait.

Newbie here. I have rooted my D2, but I haven't yet installed a new ROM. Is there any way that I can use a D1 ROM in my D2?
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640k said:
apparently you don't get it.
you're not reading what i'm asking. there are ROM devs out now, doing the work. they can debloat and use as many stock apps as possible (or as available). i'm not asking for miracles. i'm asking devs not to customize what they're doing.
i'm asking for standard looks, not black themes. i'm asking for stock apps, where possible. i'm asking for it to work.
don't come in here and thread crap because you don't understand what i'm saying/asking.
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Maybe I (and others) misinterpreted, but you said stock and vanilla multiple times.
Sorry, but I just don't take well to people starting threads like this. Either do the work yourself, contact a developer directly to inquire about their intentions, or sit tight and wait. It's this kind of "gimme" attitude in forums that scares away talented people.

What the hell? Do it yourself. Are you really acting like this because you don't like black notification bars? If it upsets you so much, learn how to change it. Requests are fine. Acting indignant because you don't know what "I want a vanilla ROM" means is rude.

[Q] Wind Mobile LG Optimus 2X Rooting for Noobs and Other Questions

Hey I'm a noob, and I bought an LG Optimus 2x on Wind Mobile. I quite like the phone, but I am thinking about rooting and installing custom ROMs because it does have a few problems. I have a bunch of questions, and an answer to any of these questions would be great.
1. I have an LG Optimus 2X on Wind, and I keep reading that I have to install P999 ROMs (T-Mobile G2X ROMs) on my phone as opposed to O2X ROMs. Is this true?
2. If I root my phone and install a custom ROM, can the ENTIRE process be undone, to the point where my phone is back to how I got it out of the box?
3. What ROM should I use? MIUI, CM7 or something else? What are the advantages and disadvantages of each ROM?
4. How does Nandroid backup (or whatever the backup thingy is)work? Will my phone be exactly the same? Like exactly? Will my angry birds save files and my apps and tasks and contacts and call logs and everything transfer over to the new ROM? Will I be able to unroot/restore my phone to the point where everything (down to angry birds save files) is exactly the same?
5. What do I do if I brick my phone?
6. What's a kernel?
7. Where can I find a step by step process to installing a custom ROM, rooting my phone, etc.?
8. How do I overclock?
Thanks in advance guys, A reply would be much appreciated.

J-Boxer said:
Hey I'm a noob, and I bought an LG Optimus 2x on Wind Mobile. I quite like the phone, but I am thinking about rooting and installing custom ROMs because it does have a few problems. I have a bunch of questions, and an answer to any of these questions would be great.
1. I have an LG Optimus 2X on Wind, and I keep reading that I have to install P999 ROMs (T-Mobile G2X ROMs) on my phone as opposed to O2X ROMs. Is this true?
2. If I root my phone and install a custom ROM, can the ENTIRE process be undone, to the point where my phone is back to how I got it out of the box?
3. What ROM should I use? MIUI, CM7 or something else? What are the advantages and disadvantages of each ROM?
4. How does Nandroid backup (or whatever the backup thingy is)work? Will my phone be exactly the same? Like exactly? Will my angry birds save files and my apps and tasks and contacts and call logs and everything transfer over to the new ROM? Will I be able to unroot/restore my phone to the point where everything (down to angry birds save files) is exactly the same?
5. What do I do if I brick my phone?
6. What's a kernel?
7. Where can I find a step by step process to installing a custom ROM, rooting my phone, etc.?
Thanks in advance guys, A reply would be much appreciated.
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welcome first of all. you should have chosen another usrname, but whatever
you could have found everything, but i'll take 5mins to give you the basic answers
1. yeah, don't use O2x stuff, usually won't work. two different hardware sets
2. sort of, yes. but won't do it.
3. you should install cm7, miui, weapon and see the differences. they are the main ones
4. nandroid is a back-up of your system (i think of it as a your own custom rom, which is the way you left your system). when flashing from rom to rom, contacts, numbers are automatically saved, but you save them to your SIM card just in case. Angry birds scores are not kept. you can use titanium backup, which keeps the files for you.
5. if you brick it, you unbrick it. never happens if you follow instructions, though
6. kernel is the basis of the operating system. it sits on top of the hardware, and it lets your applications talk to your hardware. some are faster than others because they are more efficiently written - it has to do with code complexity and stuff you don't usually need to understand.
7. for my first time, i used theunlockr.com

Thanks a ton Aplsux. People like you who take the time to answer to questions as stupid as mine make the world a better place. Can you (or someone else) elaborate a little more on the whole undoing process (#2). Where can I find out more about titanium backup?
What are the advantages and disadvantages of each ROM? I am into themes, and battery life and stability matter a lot to me.
Can you tell me anything about overclocking and undervolting?

Why have you copied my user name? I have been on XDA many years. I find this seriously annoying!!! I would appreciate it if you stop using this user name and pick another one.

hey J-Boxer, i can verify jboxer is one of the most distinguished members here, he posted his new rom recently and helps out a lot, it would be really nice before you get your post count or whatever to choose something else. not a rule, but just a nice thing to do. after all, forums like these make android the best supported system in terms of technical support and customization. people like him, with their contributions, make the world better, not lazyass people like me who give you half answers
i cannot elaborate on unbricking, because in my extensive roming, i have never ever bricked it. i've also never had to help anyone to unbrick it. all i remember, there was one thread in the q&a section, which told you how to unbrick it. chances are, you don't have to worry about it. the worse thing i've seen is fixable with a battery pull.
i cannot also comment on titanium back - i dont have games. but you know, folders and files in them, are not touched by the rom flashing.
roms are different, and you should really use them because it depends on the person. what i can say is that i've gotten the most battery out of MIUI and wepon3. most stability from weapon and cm7. miui has a few force closes, for me - also, parts of miui remind me of iOS.
i've stayed out of overclocking and underclocking, just my choice. in practice, chips are manufactured in a way to work at 1.0GHz lets say. But due to random process variables connected to transistor layouts, parasitic capacitances, resistor mismatches, all 1.0GHz chips actually can work at 0.8GHz and some at 1.2GHz. the manufacturer downclocks them, so that all can be sold as 0.8GHz, so no instability occurs. (or at least that's what we're told at school) SOOOO, to make a long story short, overclocking voids that limit set by the manufacturer of the chip. your stuff operates faster, but since the rest of the software and electronics are made for the manufacturer's frequency, a little more battery is used, and software sometimes it becomes unstable.
the g2x, everything is blazing fast, no need to overclock. but custom roms definitely give you more battery than whatever came from WIND. and it's more than 2.2.x - for instance, they made a wireless network at school, where the mobile device logs itself automatically, but you need at least 2.3.x.
i suggest you install clockwork, put a few different roms, and try them out. it's fun learning a new interface
miui is very easy to theme it yourself - just edit the mtz files. i know cm7 has a theme changer, but i dnot know how easy it is to change the themes there - but you can defiantely donwload lots. but for both, there are lots of themes you can donwload - this is what i love the most about linux.
these are the ones i've used, and found decent:
miui http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158037
cm7 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108201
eb http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124522
weapon http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1207125

Thanks aplsux, and sorry about that jboxer, I wouldn't have done so if I knew. I have always used this name for all if my accounts, but have no problem changing it. I really don't want you to think I copied your name as it was not on purpose.
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J-Boxer said:
Thanks aplsux, and sorry about that jboxer, I wouldn't have done so if I knew. I have always used this name for all if my accounts, but have no problem changing it. I really don't want you to think I copied your name as it was not on purpose.
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People might get us confused. I post here frequently and, no offense to you, I would not want people getting confused that your posts are from me. I understand you didn't copy it on purpose, but I think maybe it is better if you can change it. I don't think you can edit your user name, but maybe a moderator can do it for you? I think the only way would be to create a new account and that would require a different email address also. Up to you.

Just want to root
Sorry to cut into this thread, but my problem is basically directly related. but I have just purchased the same phone (LG Optimus 2x, Wind Mobile). The OS is 2.2.2
Now I am basically a noob. I don't want any custom ROMs. I just want to have root access to my phone, and to be easily able to unroot if need be.
I looked online and found a video tutorial for Super One Click. I followed all the instructions. Installed drivers first, then super one click. Enabled USB debugging mode and did NOT load the SD card. When I run Super One Click and click Driver Check, it says everything is good. But then when I click Root, it freezes on the "waiting for device..." step.
Anything I might be doing wrong? The only thing I can think of is that I have not installed a SIM card or a SD card in my phone yet. Does that make a difference?
Is there any other way I can do this with a different program? Any help would be great, Thanks.

Fixed it
Never mind, I just figured it out. The problem was my phone drivers were being corrupted by my aggressive antivirus, thus the adb was not installed properly. If you disable antivirus before installing the phone drivers and the Super One Click program, and only reenable it after you complete the root, you should be golden! I have now rooted my phone and I'm ecstatic!

What antivirus were you using?
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BriskT said:
Never mind, I just figured it out. The problem was my phone drivers were being corrupted by my aggressive antivirus, thus the adb was not installed properly. If you disable antivirus before installing the phone drivers and the Super One Click program, and only reenable it after you complete the root, you should be golden! I have now rooted my phone and I'm ecstatic!
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Before doing any kind of flashing you should always disable any antivirus programs and turn off your firewall on your computer. Not doing so can result in bricked devices. You are lucky you got off easy; but the 2X/G2x devices are very difficult to hard brick.

Brand new Note 10.1... Time to void the warranty

So I just got home with my brand spanking new 10.1 and I think its high time I void the warranty and get rid of the prerequisite bloatware that Samsung insists on pumping into the device before shipping it. This brings me here with two questions:
1: What is a good de-bloated / efficient ROM to run while I'm waiting for CM10.1 to reach a more stable state?
2: Is there anything different I should know about the tablet rooting / flashing process from the phone rooting / flashing process?
Thanks for any input.

Mate, I found the stock rom runs just fine.... All I did was root it...
It's up to you entirely but if all Samsung phones and tablets were shipped like the Note 10.1, I don't think I'd ever really flash a different rom again...
Would suggest trying it out as is for a few days then go ahead and flash, flash, flash... I do insist you root it however...

ultramag69 said:
Mate, I found the stock rom runs just fine.... All I did was root it...
It's up to you entirely but if all Samsung phones and tablets were shipped like the Note 10.1, I don't think I'd ever really flash a different rom again...
Would suggest trying it out as is for a few days then go ahead and flash, flash, flash... I do insist you root it however...
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Idk... I'll give this one a try, we'll just have to see how stable the ROM stays when I start peeling away the bloatware. If its anything like my past experiences, once the Samsung apps get pulled, the whole system will start to collapse like a house of cards. That's why I tend to prefer preshrunk ROMs, with CM being the best for my tastes.

using gloryrom myself

treblesum81 said:
So I just got home with my brand spanking new 10.1 and I think its high time I void the warranty and get rid of the prerequisite bloatware that Samsung insists on pumping into the device before shipping it. This brings me here with two questions:
1: What is a good de-bloated / efficient ROM to run while I'm waiting for CM10.1 to reach a more stable state?
2: Is there anything different I should know about the tablet rooting / flashing process from the phone rooting / flashing process?
Thanks for any input.
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These tablets kick ass stock. I would read a bit of these forums before any mods. at least use it for a few weeks that way after you modify it you'll be able to tell what broke it. After all these forms go a bit like this, I just flashed rom x and now my tab don't work right. Why mess up perfection. I have tried many and the bug free one is the one the creators made for it, stock

rooting does not void your hardware warranty.. if you screw up software you are on your own but most likely can unroot and flash stock..
I use stock touchwiz on my 8013 .. just rooted and removed all the bloatware..
also you can remove stock installed apps such as maps, google plus, street view, talk, chat on etc.. which take up quite a bit of space is ssystem/app and when you upgrade them anyway in google play the old versions are still there wasting space.. recommend you create a stockapps directory first on sd and copy any app you are about to remove so yhou can always put it back if there is an issue or you need it for an upgrade.

For me there is only one good reason to root a note 10.1 ........... To install [ROOT] FolderMount https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount this app is the bomb.
My stock note 10.1 is way more stable than when it was rooted with a custom rom. The only reason that I would think about rooting again is if I wanted to take advantage of storing my game data and obb files onto ext memory. But once you learn all of the storage locations and file names for those files you can manually move them and achieve the same out come with out rooting but it is a pain to have to move 2gb files back and forth from internal and ext memory.
I should have gotten the 32gb note (but I wanted white) and none of this would be an issue because my stock note runs every app and game I have put on it without an issue.
Good luck no matter what you decide.
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All I can say for CM10.1 on this tab is, why disable all the multi-window goodness? CM ruins this device, IMO.
I would stick with any rom based on stock.

Barsky said:
All I can say for CM10.1 on this tab is, why disable all the multi-window goodness? CM ruins this device, IMO.
I would stick with any rom based on stock.
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With so many votes for the stock OS, I guess I'll give it a chance, but I will say that I'm still going to be running into one of my own personal preference problems with the fact that I'm going to want to change the themeing of the stock ROM. I've never been a huge fan of the look of TW, so that may end up being the deciding factor when push comes to shove. I guess we'll see though... if stock is as good as you say, I may have to live with it...

treblesum81 said:
With so many votes for the stock OS, I guess I'll give it a chance, but I will say that I'm still going to be running into one of my own personal preference problems with the fact that I'm going to want to change the themeing of the stock ROM. I've never been a huge fan of the look of TW, so that may end up being the deciding factor when push comes to shove. I guess we'll see though... if stock is as good as you say, I may have to live with it...
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I am not a fan of Touchwiz at all. So I install Nova Launcher. THere are others as well. Apex and many more. Might want to look at those.

Barsky said:
I am not a fan of Touchwiz at all. So I install Nova Launcher. THere are others as well. Apex and many more. Might want to look at those.
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I actually already use Apex, but I generally want the themeing to go deeper to cover things like the system framework etc., which just isn't possible with Apex. I think that's one of my favorite things about CM10, beyond its bare-bones nature, is that it supports one-touch theme changing.

[Q] How to root the LG P500 with stock rom 2.3.3

Hello,
i´ve researched on this topic for a while now, but the result is confusing.
Everyone tell a different way to root the LG. Half of the threads are too old with expired download link or not working methods.
And there seems to be a problem with the new baseband when the phone is updated to the "new" 2.3.3. stock rom.
I would like to try the "CyanogenMod" first.
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=p500&type=stable
As I am unsure which ROM to choose from the endless variety of custom ROMs and the CyanogenMod seems to be the most reliable solution.
Important is a smooth and fast OS with the possibility to install (every) App to the SD Card.
thx for any help in advance

Any Ideas?

georg2010 said:
Hello,
i´ve researched on this topic for a while now, but the result is confusing.
Everyone tell a different way to root the LG. Half of the threads are too old with expired download link or not working methods.
And there seems to be a problem with the new baseband when the phone is updated to the "new" 2.3.3. stock rom.
I would like to try the "CyanogenMod" first.
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=p500&type=stable
As I am unsure which ROM to choose from the endless variety of custom ROMs and the CyanogenMod seems to be the most reliable solution.
Important is a smooth and fast OS with the possibility to install (every) App to the SD Card.
thx for any help in advance
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Hello georg2010 welcome to Xda! now first off we can start with trying to root your phone, older phones on xda start to loose their links as the days go by but hopefully there are a few still up. for now, i want you to use this method to root it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
From there you are going to go to the play market and download an app called "ClockworkMod ROM Manager", open it as soon as its done and choose to install Clockworkmod recovery,should be the first option, you need to be sure that you select your model only, in this case you told us a LG optimus one p500. once its done it might restart but to make sure it worked try this button combo when your device is turned off: Volume Down + Power + Home
post back when your ready to move on ahead.

Trozzul said:
Hello georg2010 welcome to Xda! now first off we can start with trying to root your phone, older phones on xda start to loose their links as the days go by but hopefully there are a few still up. for now, i want you to use this method to root it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
From there you are going to go to the play market and download an app called "ClockworkMod ROM Manager", open it as soon as its done and choose to install Clockworkmod recovery,should be the first option, you need to be sure that you select your model only, in this case you told us a LG optimus one p500. once its done it might restart but to make sure it worked try this button combo when your device is turned off: Volume Down + Power + Home
post back when your ready to move on ahead.
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Hello,
Yes I remember this software, because I was actually trying to root my phone some months ago already but it never went beyond this point
I think it was this part
When it says: Starting ADB Server...
Turn USB Debugging OFF
Turn USB Debugging ON
Turn USB Debugging OFF
All BEFORE it says "Waiting for device..." again
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where it stuck at "Waiting for device..."
BTW: Is this software clean? I mean some people reportet a virus in "SuperOneClick"

georg2010 said:
Hello,
Yes I remember this software, because I was actually trying to root my phone some months ago already but it never went beyond this point
I think it was this part
where it stuck at "Waiting for device..."
BTW: Is this software clean? I mean some people reportet a virus in "SuperOneClick"
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Yes, the software is clean, most of the time stuff like this people get virus pickups, thousands of people view these forums a day, you would think if it was a real virus it would be Taken down Asap. as for your problem with that program, did you install LG drivers? if not and we still have problems with it, try this instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765 download the APK towards the bottom, should be GingerBreak-v1.20.apk put it on your phone, use a file browser like androzip (personally my favorite its on the google play store) find it and install it. open it and follow the directions, make sure to enable usb debugging in settings first, im sure this one will root your device, it normally roots android 2.1-2.3 easily rooted my LG optimus V (same exact phone as yours different carrier)
Edit: my bad did a little research and it looks like Gingerbreak only works on the 2.2 update, which you have the 2.3.3 update. i would try this also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832485 otherwise try superonelick again.

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Yes, the software is clean, most of the time stuff like this people get virus pickups, thousands of people view these forums a day, you would think if it was a real virus it would be Taken down Asap. as for your problem with that program, did you install LG drivers? if not and we still have problems with it, try this instead http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765 download the APK towards the bottom, should be GingerBreak-v1.20.apk put it on your phone, use a file browser like androzip (personally my favorite its on the google play store) find it and install it. open it and follow the directions, make sure to enable usb debugging in settings first, im sure this one will root your device, it normally roots android 2.1-2.3 easily rooted my LG optimus V (same exact phone as yours different carrier)
Edit: my bad did a little research and it looks like Gingerbreak only works on the 2.2 update, which you have the 2.3.3 update. i would try this also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832485 otherwise try superonelick again.
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SuperOneClick 2.3.3. worked at first try.
Installing ClockworkMod now.

Well I wanted to install the recovery, it detected my phone but it says only for old BB, which is the baseband driver I guess.
As it is Android 2.3.3. I guess its the new baseband?!

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Well I wanted to install the recovery, it detected my phone but it says only for old BB, which is the baseband driver I guess.
As it is Android 2.3.3. I guess its the new baseband?!
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i dont quite understand friend, i dont think it should have anything to do with baseband.

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i dont quite understand friend, i dont think it should have anything to do with baseband.
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I just did it,
according to: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/41965-lg-optimus-one-complete-flashing-guide/
5) Press the “Flash Clockworkmod Recovery” option
6) Popup appears, asking for your device; select “LGE Optimus One”
7) Another popup will appear giving two options for the basebands:
- LG Optimus One (This is for new baseband)
- LG Optimus One (Old BB) (This is for old baseband)
I would advise you to select Old BB recovery as its more stable; new baseband may result in semi-brick (Personal Experience)
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So it seems to be irrelevant if I have new or old BB, for this part, my LG still can connect and so its not bricked (yet ). So everything seems to be fine.
Did already a backup of my ROM through clockwork recovery.
So I guess its time to install CM7 now?

georg2010 said:
I just did it,
according to: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/41965-lg-optimus-one-complete-flashing-guide/
So it seems to be irrelevant if I have new or old BB, for this part, my LG still can connect and so its not bricked (yet ). So everything seems to be fine.
Did already a backup of my ROM through clockwork recovery.
So I guess its time to install CM7 now?
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Correct. If your able to get into cwm with no troubles then we can move on. Your going to download cyanogenmod first, for your phone only p500. Then your going to see which version of cyanogenmod you downloaded and download the correct gapps from here http://goo.im/gapps gapps are needed for every rom yoi flash, pretty much it includes all nessesary google items such as gmail and the play store. Put both of these files onto a micro sd card for your phone and your going to first select wipe data, after that choose wipe cache. Once thats finished you are going to select install zip and navigate to where you put the cyanogenmod zip and gapps zip. Flash (fancy way of daying install) the cm7 first, once finished flash the gapps after then reboot if all comes out well.

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Correct. If your able to get into cwm with no troubles then we can move on. Your going to download cyanogenmod first, for your phone only p500. Then your going to see which version of cyanogenmod you downloaded and download the correct gapps from here http://goo.im/gapps gapps are needed for every rom yoi flash, pretty much it includes all nessesary google items such as gmail and the play store. Put both of these files onto a micro sd card for your phone and your going to first select wipe data, after that choose wipe cache. Once thats finished you are going to select install zip and navigate to where you put the cyanogenmod zip and gapps zip. Flash (fancy way of daying install) the cm7 first, once finished flash the gapps after then reboot if all comes out well.
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Well it seems to work.
In some points not what I ´ve expected (I mean here and there still little lags) and so on. But I guess the fun has just begun, so it need a lot of fine tuning. Maybe I will update from CM7 to a higher one because its obviously still "gingerbread" (if this is recommended regarding the available resources on my P500)
But my goal is at first, to be able to move or install every app directly to the SD card. I would like to know how to do that, I´ve read some tutorials about partitioning the SD card and so on. Do you have to create a separate partition for the "apps"?
Although the 200MB space on my phone was nearly completely unused, (which is great becuase on the stock ROM its nearly full even after factory reset) I still would like to use the space on my 16 GB Sd Card, for this purpose.
The second "nice-to-have" feature would be the ability to install officially not compatible apps on my phone.
For example if I want to install "Threema" it says not compatible device in the market.

georg2010 said:
Well it seems to work.
In some points not what I ´ve expected (I mean here and there still little lags) and so on. But I guess the fun has just begun, so it need a lot of fine tuning. Maybe I will update from CM7 to a higher one because its obviously still "gingerbread" (if this is recommended regarding the available resources on my P500)
But my goal is at first, to be able to move or install every app directly to the SD card. I would like to know how to do that, I´ve read some tutorials about partitioning the SD card and so on. Do you have to create a separate partition for the "apps"?
Although the 200MB space on my phone was nearly completely unused, (which is great becuase on the stock ROM its nearly full even after factory reset) I still would like to use the space on my 16 GB Sd Card, for this purpose.
The second "nice-to-have" feature would be the ability to install officially not compatible apps on my phone.
For example if I want to install "Threema" it says not compatible device in the market.
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Well first off, for your lagging problem, its because the device is a little outdated with its Processor which is clocked at 600 MHz. Cyanogenmod allows you to overclock your device to what they think is a safe Clock speed. honestly when i had Cyanogenmod 7 on my Optimus v (same as p500 different carrier) i don't think i got to overclock it past 700 MHz. now you might be wondering if overclocking is as dangerous as computer overclocking, these phones (CPU's) where meant to get packed into small areas on its motherboard if that makes sense. it is completely safe to overclock (there was a Motorola phone i think was the moto atrix, when it first came out, it was clocked at 1 GHz. the ics update had boosted it up to 1.2 GHz.) the most harm it can do is Reboot when it either what i'm guessing cant handle that clock speed or is just a huge jump from different speeds. so pretty much just boost it 5% at a time until it reboots, to overclock i don't remember where you would be able to find it in cyanogenmod 7, i think it might be in something called cyanogenmod settings, the layout between CM7 vs CM9 and up changed quite a bit. but pretty much just look around for it.
as for your SD card problems, i don't know much about partitioning SD cards i don't do much of that. i think Gingerbread (2.3.X or CM7.X) and down had some weird SD card problems and limited taking apps to the SD card, android 4.0.X and up changed and you had more options but Apps were allowed to dump files everywhere onto your SD card making a mess (this is normally through all android versions Except Kitkat 4.4.x lots of people don't mind it but there are others who like it neat) kitkat fixed this and if i remember right kinda broke our way of making apps go to the SD card, you would have to look that up. i would recommend getting a 4.2.X or 4.3.X rom, personally my favorite versions of android. kitkat was not very impressive, if you don't see any of those just Test 4.0.X roms and up until you get something that is enjoyable. i'm looking around for a smaller gapps so we can give you a little more internal space, these small gapps pretty much give you the things you Really only need to use your phone such as the play market and Google play services, it removes like Gmail and hangouts, you will still be able to download them from the play store if you need them or see something missing.
as for your last question, its not that your phone is not officially compatible its because of your android version, i did some research and threema requires ICS 4.0.X and up so if you want to use this app you need to flash a ics or higher rom. remember every time you want to flash a rom, backup, wipe data, wipe cache, flash rom then gapps. i'm surprised you still own this phone, it is outdated at this point but is still a GREAT phone and im glad some people still use it, it was my first android phone and is still a great phone to this day (even if its sitting on my desk for the rest of its days like the rest of my phones lol). if you get stuck please reply back.

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just ignore me
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Sorry i cant, its against rules to spam to get past the 10 post limit and make you look bad.

Trozzul said:
Well first off, for your lagging problem, its because the device is a little outdated with its Processor which is clocked at 600 MHz. Cyanogenmod allows you to overclock your device to what they think is a safe Clock speed. honestly when i had Cyanogenmod 7 on my Optimus v (same as p500 different carrier) i don't think i got to overclock it past 700 MHz. now you might be wondering if overclocking is as dangerous as computer overclocking, these phones (CPU's) where meant to get packed into small areas on its motherboard if that makes sense. it is completely safe to overclock (there was a Motorola phone i think was the moto atrix, when it first came out, it was clocked at 1 GHz. the ics update had boosted it up to 1.2 GHz.) the most harm it can do is Reboot when it either what i'm guessing cant handle that clock speed or is just a huge jump from different speeds. so pretty much just boost it 5% at a time until it reboots, to overclock i don't remember where you would be able to find it in cyanogenmod 7, i think it might be in something called cyanogenmod settings, the layout between CM7 vs CM9 and up changed quite a bit. but pretty much just look around for it.
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The overclocking indeed helps a bit. I think it depends on the Launcher too.
I´ve installed Go Launcher Ex with a simple theme: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex.theme.cblue
And it works much better.
There is a unofficial CM9 for P500
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Unoff....2C_Thrive_.28P506.29.2C_Optimus_T_.28P509.29
but the thread seems to be closed.
Also I don´t know if I just can pick any ROM available, or if I need a specific port for my device.
i'm looking around for a smaller gapps so we can give you a little more internal space, these small gapps pretty much give you the things you Really only need to use your phone such as the play market and Google play services, it removes like Gmail and hangouts, you will still be able to download them from the play store if you need them or see something missing.
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Thanks this sounds good. I guess this apps cannot be stored on the SD Card. And such like launchers neither. Tried this with Go Launcher Ex, the widgets crashed. - At least if You use the standard way of copying Apps on the SD card through the App manager.
So such performance-relevant stuff should be kept in phone´s storage.
i'm surprised you still own this phone, it is outdated at this point but is still a GREAT phone and im glad some people still use it, it was my first android phone and is still a great phone to this day (even if its sitting on my desk for the rest of its days like the rest of my phones lol)
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Its a combination of circumstances.
The phone is not so outdated that I had a strong desire to give out money for a new one.
And I like the design becuase its "handy". It´s not so small and not too big.
And if there is a free way to get rid of the slow stock rom, and make it a little bit faster... why not?
The today´s phones, like the Samsung S3-5 are way too big, and most importantly too expensive,
the whole system there is sad, you have to pay like 700€ for a new phone and as soon as they bring out a new model, the price drops instantly.
So you ask yourself do you pay for the hardware or for the "image" or whatever? So if I buy a new phone then I will of course always look for the "outdated" models (which are not in my opinion). Like the S2 or S3, where you still have a good performance, for a good price.
The One Plus One is interesting too, another favorite would be Google Nexus or (to stay loyal) some of the LG smartphones like the L70-L90, its maybe not one of the high end smartphones but still sure a nice performance boost.
The only bad thing about the older phones is the low screen resolution.

georg2010 said:
The overclocking indeed helps a bit. I think it depends on the Launcher too.
I´ve installed Go Launcher Ex with a simple theme: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex.theme.cblue
And it works much better.
There is a unofficial CM9 for P500
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Unoff....2C_Thrive_.28P506.29.2C_Optimus_T_.28P509.29
but the thread seems to be closed.
Also I don´t know if I just can pick any ROM available, or if I need a specific port for my device.
Thanks this sounds good. I guess this apps cannot be stored on the SD Card. And such like launchers neither. Tried this with Go Launcher Ex, the widgets crashed. - At least if You use the standard way of copying Apps on the SD card through the App manager.
So such performance-relevant stuff should be kept in phone´s storage.
Its a combination of circumstances.
The phone is not so outdated that I had a strong desire to give out money for a new one.
And I like the design becuase its "handy". It´s not so small and not too big.
And if there is a free way to get rid of the slow stock rom, and make it a little bit faster... why not?
The today´s phones, like the Samsung S3-5 are way too big, and most importantly too expensive,
the whole system there is sad, you have to pay like 700€ for a new phone and as soon as they bring out a new model, the price drops instantly.
So you ask yourself do you pay for the hardware or for the "image" or whatever? So if I buy a new phone then I will of course always look for the "outdated" models (which are not in my opinion). Like the S2 or S3, where you still have a good performance, for a good price.
The One Plus One is interesting too, another favorite would be Google Nexus or (to stay loyal) some of the LG smartphones like the L70-L90, its maybe not one of the high end smartphones but still sure a nice performance boost.
The only bad thing about the older phones is the low screen resolution.
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the original Stock launcher for Cyanogenmod 7 and below was a launcher called ADW launcher, the company or person who made it tends to try to make it as stock android as possible and honestly the version cyanogenmod 7 came with was not very good. i dont think launchers cant be moved to the sd card but widgets sure cant.
your right, you cant pick any rom you want, it has to be specifically built for your own. cyanogenmod is not the only rom type. most of the time unofficial roms will be built upon cyanogenmod or other roms. there are a few others on some newer phones but cyanogenmod is the stablest and if its official updates on bugs come faster. if you want to find more roms, here on xda you always want to go here for your device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/optimus-one/one-development for roms kernels and other modifications.
honestly if you were to find a used Galaxy s2 the specs would be perfectly fine. all variants have a great development community going and should for the new few android versions. what carrier do you have? i would try to get a T989 T-mobile s2 like myself, its pretty great though its a 4.5" ich screen vs your 3.2" screen its not too big, probably the only problem i have with it is the resolution is not the best. a motorola G would be a great replacement aswell, better specs than the s2 (its very close to a s3 benchmark) same screen size and i think it has a better resolution.
as for today's standards you Are paying for image, paying for the brand name (like alienware and dell computers), back then it used to be Hardware, the Nexus one used to have the Best phone specs when it was released. if you look at benchmarks, the Galaxy s4 vs the s5 there is not much of a difference. i myself am interested in the oneplus one device but the only problem is that invite system. im also thinking of grabing a LG L90, great price for its specs which are the same as the moto g so pretty much as close to a s3.

Its hard to choose but I will give this one a try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409107
what carrier do you have?
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O2
but I don´t really care about carrier, ´cause I use a prepaid card. Which work with every phone. And would buy only a sim-lock free phone.

georg2010 said:
Its hard to choose but I will give this one a try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409107
O2
but I don´t really care about carrier, ´cause I use a prepaid card. Which work with every phone. And would buy only a sim-lock free phone.
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be sure to read most of the thread looking for special requirements, some roms like this one dont need a gapps.

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be sure to read most of the thread looking for special requirements, some roms like this one dont need a gapps.
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Yes saw this already.
btw. deleted this already,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409107
.. not so smooth and screen was not so good, in the menues on the small display.
Flashed this now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811325
which is coming closer to that what I´ve expected..
Although I´ve trouble with the non-functional home button, someone suggested here, to re-flash the ROM, but Cyanogen and Gapp separately.
Will try this now.
Also I am considering to try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096721
But not sure if there are any major bugs or something.
This is the 4.2.X you suggested. Can´t find 4.3.X though.
What is the difference between them?
Maybe you can suggest one specific rom.

georg2010 said:
Yes saw this already.
btw. deleted this already,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2409107
.. not so smooth and screen was not so good, in the menues on the small display.
Flashed this now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811325
which is coming closer to that what I´ve expected..
Although I´ve trouble with the non-functional home button, someone suggested here, to re-flash the ROM, but Cyanogen and Gapp separately.
Will try this now.
Also I am considering to try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096721
But not sure if there are any major bugs or something.
This is the 4.2.X you suggested. Can´t find 4.3.X though.
What is the difference between them?
Maybe you can suggest one specific rom.
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i cant sugesst you a rom because i dont own the phone, i could look through the forums and show you one to test out but thats about it, 4.2.X and 4.3.X have just minor ui updates that can come in handy, just test a bunch of 4.1.X and 4.2.X and you can see the difference, i think 4.2.X added camera to the lockscreen and dropdown status bar different ui. you can check here to see some of the differences http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history

[Q] TF700 upgrades, tweaks, etc?

So i just recently bought a Asus T100, since windows 8.1 is much more appealing to me in a tablet than android,
but I still have my android TF700 tablet and I don't really want to sell it since it is also a great device.
Problem is it slows down to a crawl. I factory restore it, but within a few weeks of light use it becomes VERY slow (more of a web browser and general interface issue, since games and video still run fine)
If i could correct that problem, i have many uses at home for it.
are there any fun/cool/useful things I can do to it? upgrades, different OS, that kind of stuff? I love using old devices as kind of a learning/training tool for DIY type projects.
I was thinking about just rooting it, but that is boring. I want to try something really cool that could even breath some new life into the device and get me using it again.

If you unlock your bootloader with the Asus unlocked tool, you can install some custom roms that seem to make it run quicker and smoother.

This should get you started:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2688891
Then check the Development section for roms - there are quite a few to choose from.
Just make sure you fulfill ALL the requirements for each rom (ususally stated in the OP for each rom) and NEVER use Wipe Data from the bootloader if you have a custom recovery installed.